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    Liberals told to leave
    Tulsa World
    by: RANDY KREHBIEL World Staff Writer
    Saturday, March 07, 2009
    3/7/2009 3:06:11 AM

    Thirteen-year-old Lane Dunkley just wanted to go hunting with his grandfather.

    What he got was a lecture on politics.

    Dunkley and his father, Daniel Reddy, who live in Tulsa, went to Broken Arrow on Tuesday night for a hunter safety course normally required to get an Oklahoma hunting license.

    The class was a reward of sorts. Dunkley, who wants to go hunting with his grandfather, was told he could take the class only if he brought up his grades.

    So he did to a B-plus average.

    But when father and son arrived at the lesson, the volunteer instructor, Kell Wolf, asked if any of the students voted for President Barack Obama.

    Reddy, a transplanted Californian and former Marine raised his hand.

    According to Reddy and others in the room, Wolf called Obama "the next thing to the Antichrist" and ordered Reddy and Dunkley from the room. When Reddy refused, Wolf said he would not teach "liberals" and would cancel the course if Reddy didn't leave.

    So Reddy and Dunkley left, as did a few others.

    Lance Meek, hunter education coordinator for the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation, said Wolf had been a volunteer instructor for "a long time, probably 15 years or more" and "from what we've heard and observed, had always done a great job. He worked with the kids really well."

    But when Meek received a call Wednesday morning from someone other than the Reddys he said he had no choice.

    "I got the call at 8:30, and by 9 o'clock (Wolf) was no longer a volunteer for us."

    Contacted on Friday, Wolf had no comment on the matter. Meek said he talked briefly to Wolf on Wednesday, and that Wolf did not deny ordering Reddy from the class or offer an explanation.

    Lane Dunkley said the situation made him angry.

    "This was a big deal for me because my grandpa doesn't have a lot of time to hunt anymore," he said. "I rarely get to hang out with my grandfather.

    "I thought I would never be able to get my license."

    Stacy Reddy, Daniel Reddy's wife and Lane Dunkley's mother, said the family was surprised by how quickly the wildlife department acted.

    "Lance Meek called and apologized up and down and wanted to know what they could do to make it right," she said.

    "The only thing we really wanted was for my son to be able to take the hunter safety course, and there wasn't another one in the Tulsa area with an opening for the rest of 2009."

    So Meek arranged for a private class

    "They called and said they'd meet us any time, anywhere," said Daniel Reddy. "Their response has been exemplary. It has really restored my faith in government."

    Meek and Stacy Reddy said it illustrates how difficult the ongoing changes in the federal government are for some Oklahomans.

    "I realize a lot of people are unhappy right now," said Stacy Reddy, "but this was something my son worked his tail off to do."

    Meek sounded grieved that a long-time volunteer with a spotless record seemed to have veered so suddenly off the tracks.

    "It's a shame. What he did is definitely not all right with us," Meek said, "but his heart has been in the right place for a long, long time."



    World staff writer Clifton Adcock contributed to this story.
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    I applaud the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation for doing what they did.I don't know what caused that instructor to do what he did but there was no reason or justification for it. The college in Conn. where the cops were called on the student for making the presentation on CC should take a lesson from ODWC and how to handle these issues. Both cases were wrong.

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    I have to disagree on this one, this was a prime opportunity to convert a liberal in to a redneck religious gun loving republican....
    "The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac 11th century
    "Don't be so open minded that your brains fall out!" Father John Corapi.

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    Try a different tactic.

    People do not have to be Republicans to love guns, I think your statement is therefore misguided. Rather, it was a perfect opportunity for people with differing beliefs to come to understand or learn that loving guns can transcend political beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdcleanfun View Post
    People do not have to be Republicans to love guns, I think your statement is therefore misguided. Rather, it was a perfect opportunity for people with differing beliefs to come to understand or learn that loving guns can transcend political beliefs.
    Agreed, just another step in opening up their Liberal, misguided, poluted minds to that which our Founders had intended this great country to be... free from big brother... er, government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotto View Post
    Agreed, just another step in opening up their Liberal, misguided, poluted minds to that which our Founders had intended this great country to be... free from big brother... er, government.
    ...as well as letting Conservative thinkers know that those who aren't are not necessarily misguided or polluted. I'm neither. I sure will agree that no one will take away my 2A rights if I can help it, but I don't have to be conservative to think that way.

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    And yet, what if the shoe was properly on the other foot? Imagine if when Bush was first elected, or if McCain had been elected, with a stereotypicly Conservative Republican stance of making abortion illegal/returning the question to the states. What if there were, a state-funded parenting skills class for young mothers and at the beginning of a new class, the Liberal instructor asked, "Who here voted for Bush/McCain?" and a young pregnant Libertarian mother raised her hand. If that instructor then told that young woman to leave her classroom, "Because I won't be teaching parenting skills to no one who agrees with the President that the right of a woman to terminate the life of their unborn baby whenever they want to should be anything but sacrosanct."

    Not only would that parenting skills volunteer not be fired, she'd prolly be given a special plaque "For Service to the Less Fortunate" over the incident.

    If I were living in Tulsa, I'd be seeking this man out for private marksmanship lessons, PAID private marksmanship lessons.

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    I have to agree with sheldon. You cannot call yourself a liberal and say that you love guns and hunting. For years liberals have been trying to steal our freedoms and guns from us. And to me that is just wrong!! To vote for obama was to vote away our freedom and our GOD given right to KEEP AND BEAR ARMS! No! liberals HATE everything about gun ownership and hunting!! I AM A PROUD REPUBLICAN AND VETERAN!! And yes I own several guns and LOVE to hunt! And am a licensed CCW carrier! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
    Last edited by lonewolfsniper; 03-13-2009 at 08:47 PM. Reason: wanted to change some words.

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    Instead of thinking of it in terms of "Liberal" or "Conservative," which are words thrown around with most people not knowing the true meaning of either word, why not think of it in terms of for freedom, or against it.

    Gdcleanfun refers to herself as a liberal, yet believes in her second amendment right to keep and bear arms, contrary to many people in her "political party." How about we cast down this two party system crap, and work together to bring about a new renaissance. It is the two party system, that keeps the fat cats in office, while we bicker amongst ourselves over trivial things, while they are commiting war crimes, and killing millions of people.

    To lonewolfsniper: I completely understand where you're coming from. Obama is a piece of s***, as well as most "liberals" in government offices. But you can't judge anyone and everyone who calls themselves a 'liberal', just for being a 'liberal'.

    IMHO, the two-party system is the biggest scam in the history of our country, second only to the Federal Reserve. We need to break the paradigm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooter View Post
    Instead of thinking of it in terms of "Liberal" or "Conservative," which are words thrown around with most people not knowing the true meaning of either word, why not think of it in terms of for freedom, or against it.

    Gdcleanfun refers to herself as a liberal, yet believes in her second amendment right to keep and bear arms, contrary to many people in her "political party." How about we cast down this two party system crap, and work together to bring about a new renaissance. It is the two party system, that keeps the fat cats in office, while we bicker amongst ourselves over trivial things, while they are commiting war crimes, and killing millions of people.

    To lonewolfsniper: I completely understand where you're coming from. Obama is a piece of s***, as well as most "liberals" in government offices. But you can't judge anyone and everyone who calls themselves a 'liberal', just for being a 'liberal'.

    IMHO, the two-party system is the biggest scam in the history of our country, second only to the Federal Reserve. We need to break the paradigm.
    AMEN....Agree 100%.
    "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."
    -- Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon, 1942

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