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    Obama gun ban list is out

    More great news from the Messiah:

    Obama’s Gun Ban List Is Out
    Obama’s Gun Ban List Is Out

    Alan Korwin
    GunLaws.com
    Friday, March 13, 2009

    Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did.

    Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.

    Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady’s plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states’ rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

    Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
    M1 Carbine,
    Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
    AR-15,
    Bushmaster XM15,
    Armalite M15,
    AR-10,
    Thompson 1927,
    Thompson M1;
    AK,
    AKM,
    AKS,
    AK-47,
    AK-74,
    ARM,
    MAK90,
    NHM 90,
    NHM 91,
    SA 85,
    SA 93,
    VEPR;
    Olympic Arms PCR;
    AR70,
    Calico Liberty ,
    Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
    Fabrique National FN/FAL,
    FN/LAR, or FNC,
    Hi-Point20Carbine,
    HK-91,
    HK-93,
    HK-94,
    HK-PSG-1,
    Thompson 1927 Commando,
    Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
    Saiga,
    SAR-8,
    SAR-4800,
    SKS with detachable magazine,
    SLG 95,
    SLR 95 or 96,
    Steyr AU,
    Tavor,
    Uzi,
    Galil and Uzi Sporter,
    Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).


    Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
    Calico M-110,
    MAC-10,
    MAC-11, or MPA3,
    Olympic Arms OA,
    TEC-9,
    TEC-DC9,
    TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
    Uzi.
    Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
    Armscor 30 BG,
    SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
    Striker 12,
    Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
    A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
    (i) a folding or telescoping stock,
    (ii) a threaded barrel,
    (iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see
    below),
    (iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
    Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than
    10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
    A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a
    detachable magazine, and has:
    (i) a second pistol grip,
    (ii) a threaded barrel,
    (iii) a barrel shroud or
    (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
    (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10
    rounds.
    A semiautomatic shotgun with:
    (i) a folding or telescoping stock,
    (ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
    (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity
    of more than 5 rounds, and
    (iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
    Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.
    Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.”

    Note that Obama’s pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, “there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.” In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

    The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn’t have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose — is that devious or what? And of course, “sporting purpose” is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

    "Common Sense" gun laws. Common sense tells me that the gun didn't carry itself to the crime scene and pull it's own trigger. Punish the criminals, not the guns!

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    Looks the same as Kalifornia's list that D.C. just adopted.
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    Just remember, when they come for your guns, give them to them bullets first.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by ADJ423 View Post
    Looks the same as Kalifornia's list that D.C. just adopted.
    i thought dc won the case whee the citizens can own guns?

    just because he has a list doesnt mean it is going to pass.

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    I was just bringing the list here. I see it's arrived.

    If this goes through, which I doubt will happen soon since Pelosi backed right off when confronted about it by the media, it's going to cause a lot of confusion. We're going to have pre ban, then post ban, then post pre ban? How is this going to work? And if we built guns ourselves which aren't compliant, we have to have receipts for all the parts? This is getting nuts.
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    "The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn’t have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose — is that devious or what? And of course, “sporting purpose” is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent"

    Who told this chupm citizens were supposed to have guns for "Sporting purposes?" They are to protect us from the likes of HIM!



    "The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self defense in the home."

    - U.S. Supreme Court Justice J. Scalia, June 26, 2008


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    From my Cold, Dead, F#$%ing Hands.
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    He promised change, just not sure if it's Marxist, fascism or Nazi (National Socialism ).
    I'm thinking Nazi state. He's getting rid of God and putting science first. GLobal warming is our new religion.

    Any way it goes he needs to start with these "small" lists and then work up to all of them.

    Here comes the change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldOwl View Post
    "The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn’t have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose — is that devious or what? And of course, “sporting purpose” is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent"

    Who told this chupm citizens were supposed to have guns for "Sporting purposes?" They are to protect us from the likes of HIM!



    "The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self defense in the home."

    - U.S. Supreme Court Justice J. Scalia, June 26, 2008


    YouTube - Commie Rahm Emanuel to Disarm America:"#1 Issue", Gun Owners are Terrorists
    Emanuel's speech is just plain scary!

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    As much as we dislike their Nazi politics regarding firearms and their lack of consideration for the Bill Of Rights there is a positive side of this announced list.

    The run of firearms and ammo at the gun stores will simply rise that much more due to this announcement leaking out. That is a good thing! The more firearms Americans own the more difficult confiscation becomes. Hopefully, the news of this list will hit the major news outlets.

    I was visiting a gun store yesterday and there were several people purchansing guns who had never owned guns before. They mentioned that they were concerned that even though they had never owned a gun they liked the idea that the law allowed them to purchase one if they wanted. Now they were concerned that if they don't make the purchase now they will not be able to in the future.

    There seem to be plenty of pro-gun people who don't actually own a firearm but just do not see the need to own one until that right is about to be lost. Perhaps this most extensive list will increase sales even more. That's the good part. We need as many legal guns in the hands of citizens as possible.

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