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  1. #21
    For years, a lot of you (not me) have wasted your vote by sitting at home, not wanting to take the time to go to the polls. A lot of you (not me) have talked all about your gun rights but have kept your money in your wallet instead of backing those who constantly work to ensude our freedoms. A lot of you (not me) brag about all of your rights, but stay at home instead of taking to the streets, attending meetings and rallies, and protesting the attacks on our Constitution. A lot of you (not me) haven't got the time to write their Congressmen, senators and state officials and hold their feet to the fire about their failure to speak for you instead of special interests. A lot of you (not me) think people like Glenn Beck and the Liberty Council and Resistnet are radicals you want no part of. They're too "in your face" for you.
    It also says " Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes"
    A lot of you (not me) really think that the issues we face today are "light and transient causes." Socialism, a New World Order, a monetary melt-down, and a government that wants to control everything we do, instead of a government "of, by and for the people." Pray tell me - where the hell are "light and transient causes" you talk about today? I'm looking for them, but all I find is a govenrment running amock at an alarming speed.

    I'm afraid you're all too late. Yes, we can try to vote responsible people into government and throw the crooks out. Yes, we can file all the briefs in the world to try and expose the criminality in our government. And watch as our wonderful judicial system legislates from the bench and reverses whatever they don't like. Can we get conservative judges on SCOTUS before the liberals make everything legal except for faith and guns? Can we somehow reverse all of this mayhem before it's too late?

    I don't want to be fighting in the streets, and I don't want to see my grandchildren indoctrinated in a amoral new world order. But I won't be standing by doing nothing. I will be vigorously working within the legal system to try and stop this downhill avalanche, but I won't roll over and play dead. And I'll quote another patriot (which makes as much sense today as it did 233 years ago, Patrick Henry:
    Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
    I'm with Pat!
    -= Piece Corps =-

  3. #22
    Thanks PC, well said. And you're correct, I have been sitting on my hands way too long. I hope you (respectfully) that you are wrong about being too late. I, too, am worried about the legacy we are leaving behind for our grand kids.
    Semper Fi

  4. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Piece Corps View Post
    Just remember the part that the left-wing socialists are really trying to kill - our Declaration of Independence - and what it says:

    Looks like it may be time to take these words to heart.
    that is absolutely true! I only hope that enough good people are involved with whatever they can be in order to keep our freedom instead of doing nothing and pissing our freedom away.
    You can have my freedom as soon as I'm done with it!!!

  5. #24
    I believe that the Founders wrote it the way they meant it. Not subject to "evolution", Not a 'living" document. Do our politicians see it that way? Not many. But then, I'm just a sort of conservative gun nut that loves his country. Must have made someone's watch list this week!


  6. Quote Originally Posted by Piece Corps View Post
    A lot of you (not me) really think that the issues we face today are "light and transient causes." Socialism, a New World Order, a monetary melt-down, and a government that wants to control everything we do, instead of a government "of, by and for the people." Pray tell me - where the hell are "light and transient causes" you talk about today? I'm looking for them, but all I find is a govenrment running amock at an alarming speed.
    Here are the reasons our Founding Fathers decided were worthy of insurrection:

    He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; and, when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

    He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them, and formidable to tyrants only.

    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

    He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly, for opposing, with manly firmness, his invasions on the rights of the people.

    He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining, in the mean time, exposed to all the dangers of invasions from without and convulsions within.

    He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.

    He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.

    He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

    He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing armies, without the consent of our legislatures.

    He has affected to render the military independent of, and superior to, the civil power.

    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution and unacknowledged by our laws, giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation:

    For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us;

    For protecting them, by a mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states;

    For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world;

    For imposing taxes on us without our consent;

    For depriving us, in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury;

    For transporting us beyond seas, to be tried for pretended offenses;

    For abolishing the free system of English laws in a neighboring province, establishing therein an arbitrary government, and enlarging its boundaries, so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these colonies;

    For taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments;

    For suspending our own legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

    He has abdicated government here, by declaring us out of his protection and waging war against us.

    He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burned our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

    He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation, and tyranny already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation.

    He has constrained our fellow-citizens, taken captive on the high seas, to bear arms against their country, to become the executioners of their friends and brethren, or to fall themselves by their hands.

    He has excited domestic insurrection among us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes, and conditions.

    In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms; our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

    If you would like to break this down, it is: The King will not create or allow the creation of a government capable of providing security and stability for the people. He is stealing our food and goods so we cannot support ourselves, making us provide room and board for his soldiers in our homes, while taking away our ability to support ourselves. He declares us not under his protection and actively works with those who would murder us. He kidnaps us and forces us into the military where we are forced to kill our own countrymen. When we have tried to remedy these problems, we have been ignored.

    Yes, I consider the current situation to be light and transient. I have NOT said it will not degenerate to a point where some sort of rebellion is required (Lord I hope not!!!), and I have NOT said we should not work towards retaining and regaining our liberty! Actually, I have said just the opposite!!! We are no where near a time when armed insurrection against our government is required. Go forth, work hard, run for office, change what is going on!!! Absolutely!!! but it is not the time for a new revolution.

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