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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokey View Post
    I'm not sure I buy into this......and nothing like this was mentioned during CCW certification. With state reciprocity, we must abide by that state law.
    I agree! I'm an NRA firearms instructor and even in the instructor classes I've taken, they have never mentioned this law.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Pokey View Post
    I'm not sure I buy into this....

    You don't have to take my word for it. The law is Title 18 U.S.C. 922(q). Read it for yourself.

    18 U.S.C. 922 : US Code - Section 922: Unlawful acts


    Here is an ATF letter stating their ability to prosecute permit holders who travel outside of the State which physically issued their permit.

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/batf_school_zone.pdf








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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle2009 View Post
    You don't have to take my word for it. The law is Title 18 U.S.C. 922(q). Read it for yourself.

    18 U.S.C. 922 : US Code - Section 922: Unlawful acts


    Here is an ATF letter stating their ability to prosecute permit holders who travel outside of the State which physically issued their permit.

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/batf_school_zone.pdf





    Yeah I read all that before, I would like to know how many have actually been prosecuted for unknowingly doing this? We all know that many laws are hogwash, and even our law enforcment don't know or can't keep up with half of them. I won't be carrying in or around a school zone out of state anyways, and I am already within the law where I live........I aint skeered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokey View Post
    Yeah I read all that before, I would like to know how many have actually been prosecuted for unknowingly doing this? We all know that many laws are hogwash, and even our law enforcment don't know or can't keep up with half of them. I won't be carrying in or around a school zone out of state anyways, and I am already within the law where I live........I aint skeered.
    It is not a matter of being afraid. It is a matter of knowing your government, knowing what laws apply to your activities, and petitioning your government to change those laws that you disagree with. in other words, it is a matter of participating in your government for your benefit and the benefit of your fellow citizens.

    Eagle2009 has brought our attention a federal law that virtually emasculates the reciprocity benefits many people think they have.

    I've practiced law and have been involved in law enforcement for more than 30 years - and I can guarantee that you shouldn't rely on the discretion of law enforcement to protect your rights.

    The cop on the beat isn't going to make the critical decision. Rather, some young stud bucking for an appoint as a US Attorney or federal district court judge is going to exercise that discretion, and he will not be exercising it for the benefit of society but rather for his own political benefit.

    Watch your local news whenever there is an arrest or conviction for child porn. The prosecutors are shoving and pushing each other to get in front of the cameras and microphones.

    The same would be true of a "schools and guns" case. If an ambitious federal prosecutor gets a hold of one of those they'll be chanting "I stopped another Columbine! I should be a federal district judge!"

  6. I agree with nogods on this issue for sure. I have had a CCP for many years and have learned alot since getting it. As far as enforcement goes in most states school zones are off limits to any gun permits outside their own state issued ones. You are breaking the law if you drive threw one officially but in 95% of the states unless you have committed or broken another law while traveling threw that school zone and your not flashing your gun you will go threw with now problems. I have brought this discussion up with police officers in other states and that was basically their answer in most cases. They don't sit in school zones watching for out of state cars to pull over to see if they have a gun in them. Common sense works really well when your in another state or your own state for that fact.
    Now with that said nogods is correct in not wanting to test the system because you never know when your going to go up against a cop wanting to save the world or a District attorney wanting to be a federal judge.

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    Is there any hope for this issue getting resolved for good? This directly affects me since I have a UT NR permit and live in NC and HAVE to pass several schools on my way to work. Unless I build my own road thru the woods it's geographically impossible for me to drive out of my subdivision without passing a school. They have me boxed in on all sides. I am a 12 year permanent resident and married to an American but I am not yet a citizen myself so my local state WON'T give me a permit.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by jg1967 View Post
    Is there any hope for this issue getting resolved for good?
    Not until all these "law-abiding" gun owners who aren't "skeered" of violating the felony provisions of this law realize the importance of amending it so they can carry in a truly legal manner. You'd be surprised at the number of people who aren't willing to put any effort into this, and instead want to argue about how they wont "get caught."

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    I don't quite understand this thread, maybe someone that knows for sure can set me straight. Does this federal law pertain to school zones, or the whole dog gone state. If there is a law against reciprocity from state to state, then the maps on this site are all wrong, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by handgonnetoter View Post
    I don't quite understand this thread, maybe someone that knows for sure can set me straight. Does this federal law pertain to school zones, or the whole dog gone state. If there is a law against reciprocity from state to state, then the maps on this site are all wrong, right?
    School zones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&W645 View Post
    School zones.
    Thank you.

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