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  1. Exclamation Jimmy Carter Wants Your Guns!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/opinion/27Carter.html

    Op-Ed Contributor
    What Happened to the Ban on Assault Weapons?

    By JIMMY CARTER
    Published: April 26, 2009

    THE evolution in public policy concerning the manufacture, sale and possession of semiautomatic assault weapons like AK-47s, AR-15s and Uzis has been very disturbing. Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and I all supported a ban on these formidable firearms, and one was finally passed in 1994.

    When the 10-year ban was set to expire, many police organizations — including 1,100 police chiefs and sheriffs from around the nation — called on Congress and President George W. Bush to renew and strengthen it. But with a wink from the White House, the gun lobby prevailed and the ban expired.

    I have used weapons since I was big enough to carry one, and now own two handguns, four shotguns and three rifles, two with scopes. I use them carefully, for hunting game from our family woods and fields, and occasionally for hunting with my family and friends in other places. We cherish the right to own a gun and some of my hunting companions like to collect rare weapons. One of them is a superb craftsman who makes muzzle-loading rifles, one of which I displayed for four years in my private White House office.

    But none of us wants to own an assault weapon, because we have no desire to kill policemen or go to a school or workplace to see how many victims we can accumulate before we are finally shot or take our own lives. That’s why the White House and Congress must not give up on trying to reinstate a ban on assault weapons, even if it may be politically difficult.

    An overwhelming majority of Americans, including me and my hunting companions, believe in the right to own weapons, but surveys show that they also support modest restraints like background checks, mandatory registration and brief waiting periods before purchase.

    A majority of Americans also support banning assault weapons. Many of us who hunt are dismayed by some of the more extreme policies of the National Rifle Association, the most prominent voice in opposition to a ban, and by the timidity of public officials who yield to the group’s unreasonable demands.

    Heavily influenced and supported by the firearms industry, N.R.A. leaders have misled many gullible people into believing that our weapons are going to be taken away from us, and that homeowners will be deprived of the right to protect ourselves and our families. The N.R.A. would be justified in its efforts if there was a real threat to our constitutional right to bear arms. But that is not the case.

    Instead, the N.R.A. is defending criminals’ access to assault weapons and use of ammunition that can penetrate protective clothing worn by police officers on duty. In addition, while the N.R.A. seems to have reluctantly accepted current law restricting sales by licensed gun dealers to convicted felons, it claims that only “law-abiding people” obey such restrictions — and it opposes applying them to private gun dealers or those who sell all kinds of weapons from the back of a van or pickup truck at gun shows.

    What are the results of this profligate ownership and use of guns designed to kill people? In 2006, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported more than 30,000 people died from firearms, accounting for nearly 20 percent of all injury deaths. In 2005, every nine hours a child or teenager in the United States was killed in a firearm-related accident or suicide.

    Across our border, Mexican drug cartels are being armed with advanced weaponry imported from the United States — a reality only the N.R.A. seems to dispute.

    The gun lobby and the firearms industry should reassess their policies concerning safety and accountability — at least on assault weapons — and ease their pressure on acquiescent politicians who fear N.R.A. disapproval at election time. We can’t let the N.R.A.’s political blackmail prevent the banning of assault weapons — designed only to kill police officers and the people they defend.

    Jimmy Carter, the 39th president, is the winner of the 2002 Nobel Peace Prize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TatankaGap View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/opinion/27Carter.html
    But none of us wants to own an assault weapon, because we have no desire to kill policemen or go to a school or workplace to see how many victims we can accumulate before we are finally shot or take our own lives. That’s why the White House and Congress must not give up on trying to reinstate a ban on assault weapons, even if it may be politically difficult.
    I don't like the term "assault weapon" because it is misused by the media. I own an AK-47 as well as an AR-15 and have absolutely no desire to kill anyone including myself. I do, however, enjoy target shooting with them just as I do with several other firearms. Punish the criminal that misuses them, hold them responsible not the law abiding owner.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by TatankaGap View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/opinion/27Carter.html



    But none of us wants to own an assault weapon, because we have no desire to kill policemen or go to a school or workplace to see how many victims we can accumulate before we are finally shot or take our own lives. That’s why the White House and Congress must not give up on trying to reinstate a ban on assault weapons, even if it may be politically difficult.

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    So everyone who desires to own an "assault weapon" does so because we desire to kill policemen or got to a school or workplace to see how many victims we can accumulate? Nice. Let's change the concept to a precious LIBERAL canard.."But none of us wants to have abortion on demand, because we have no desire to lead an irresponsible promiscuous lifestyle, then kill a child because babies are incovenient." If a conservative wrote that in an editorial, there would be hell to pay. Let a liberal stereotype so many law abiding citizens and people don't even bat an eye. And this guy is supposed to be some kind of statesman? Ha!
    Last edited by joespahr; 04-27-2009 at 01:37 PM. Reason: Just thought of something to add
    "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity"

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    Jimmy C and NYT

    Two questions

    1. When did the NYT sink to having Jimmy Carter on their side on gun control? I thought they hated him on principle.
    2. What about this quote from the op-ed?
      We cherish the right to own a gun and some of my hunting companions like to collect rare weapons. One of them is a superb craftsman who makes muzzle-loading rifles, one of which I displayed for four years in my private White House office.
      Did he violate the DC Gun Ban while in office?
    Orlando, FL

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    wolfhunter Guest
    Yes, he did. Can he be brought up on charges on a law that has since been rescinded?

    At the bottom of James Earl Carter's birth certificate, the form # says ID-10T

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    But none of us wants to own an assault weapon, because we have no desire to kill policemen or go to a school or workplace to see how many victims we can accumulate before we are finally shot or take our own lives. That’s why the White House and Congress must not give up on trying to reinstate a ban on assault weapons, even if it may be politically difficult.????

    I knew he was an idiot but I never relized how big of one until now.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    But none of us wants to own an assault weapon, because we have no desire to kill policemen or go to a school or workplace to see how many victims we can accumulate before we are finally shot or take our own lives. That’s why the White House and Congress must not give up on trying to reinstate a ban on assault weapons, even if it may be politically difficult.????

    +1 on what HK4U said. I have an "assault weapon" and I can honestly say that having one hasn't given me any desire whatsoever to have a shoot out with Law Enforcement, or go to a public place and start spraying lead.... Jimmy's a moron.
    When it comes to handguns, there are Sig Sauers, then there's everything else.

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    Let me cross post something I put on another forum of which some readers are not as familiar with types of guns:

    Pardon me while I remove the clothes pin from my nose so I could read the link.

    This sort of sums up how clueless the man has always been:

    But none of us wants to own an assault weapon, because we have no desire to kill policemen or go to a school or workplace to see how many victims we can accumulate before we are finally shot or take our own lives. That’s why the White House and Congress must not give up on trying to reinstate a ban on assault weapons, even if it may be politically difficult.

    So that's the only reason for an "assault" weapon? Besides the fact that the term only applies to it's looks, people actually do buy them big time where I live and shoot them at game and varmit animals throughout the year without shooting any policemen, storming schools or blasting innocent victims. Hard to believe, I know.

    The two guns shown are the same exactly in how they shoot and the caliber they shoot, .308 .

    What makes one an assault weapon and more dangerous?



  10. "What are the results of this profligate ownership and use of guns designed to kill people? In 2006, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported more than 30,000 people died from firearms, accounting for nearly 20 percent of all injury deaths. In 2005, every nine hours a child or teenager in the United States was killed in a firearm-related accident or suicide."

    do you notice how these statistics are for all guns not just "assault weapons". It's funny how Idiots like him think we are silly for thinking they want to take ALL of our guns, but using the same numbers, when they take the assault weapons away and the numbers do not drop where will they go to next to drop those numbers. Then our pistols would be next." for the good of Mexico and our kids" of course...

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    I'm so tired of hearing about so called Assault weapons. The only true Assault weapon is one you have to pay a $200 tax to own. True Assault weapons are full auto and not semi auto. Jimmy is a moron and has been one since the day the doctor dropped him on his head when he was born.
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