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    BATFE harrassing southwest NRA members

    In Border States, BATFE Asks: "May We See Your Guns?"

    Friday, June 19, 2009
    NRA-ILA :: In Border States, BATFE Asks: "May We See Your Guns?"

    NRA-ILA has recently received several calls from NRA members in border states who have been visited or called by agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. In some cases, agents have asked to enter these people's homes, and requested serial numbers of all firearms the members possess.

    In each case, the agents were making inquiries based on the number of firearms these NRA members had recently bought, and in some cases the agents said they were asking because the members had bought types of guns that are frequently recovered in Mexico.

    This kind of questioning may or may not be part of a legitimate criminal investigation. For example, when BATFE traces a gun seized after use in a crime, manufacturers' and dealers' records will normally lead to the first retail buyer of that gun, and investigators will have to interview the buyer to find out how the gun ended up in criminal hands. But in other cases, the questioning may simply be based on information in dealers' records, with agents trying to "profile" potentially suspicious purchases.

    On the other hand, some of the agents have used heavy-handed tactics. One reportedly demanded that a gun owner return home early from a business trip, while another threatened to "report" an NRA member as "refusing to cooperate." That kind of behavior is outrageous and unprofessional.

    Whether agents act appropriately or not, concerned gun owners should remember that all constitutional protections apply. Answering questions in this type of investigation is generally an individual choice. Most importantly, there are only a few relatively rare exceptions to the general Fourth Amendment requirement that law enforcement officials need a warrant to enter a home without the residents' consent. There is nothing wrong with politely, but firmly, asserting your rights.
    If BATFE contacts you and you have any question about how to respond, you may want to consult a local attorney. NRA members may also call NRA-ILA's Office of Legislative Counsel at (703) 267-1161 for further information. Whether contacting a local attorney or NRA, be sure to provide as many details as possible, including the date, time, and location, agent's name, and specific questions asked.

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    We new this kind of harassment would only get worse once the messiah was in office.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    so are they using the NRA's member list as a shopping list for gun grabbers? is that what NRA members have to look forward to?
    You can have my freedom as soon as I'm done with it!!!

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    Where are they getting the list of people that own guns? The instant gun checks when you buy are not to be kept as a permenant record. They could NOT be doing something illegal could they?

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    One way is if you buy two or more handguns within five consecutive business days dealers have to report this to the BATF. They are reported on ATF Form 3310.4, Report of Multiple Sale or Other Disposition of Pistols and Revolvers.

    http://www.lcav.org/content/multiple...ases_sales.pdf
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    Thanks Red Hat. That's good to know.
    "There is no consitutional right to be protected by the state against being murdered by criminals or madmen." (7th Cir. 1982, Bowers v. DeVito)Stay safe, and stay trained.www.sazsatt.com

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