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  1. #91
    Well, that was nice of 'em...I got an e-mail back from the Dems thanking me for writing my letter-to-the-editor showing my support for ObummerCare. You're welcome, you flaming idiots...

    This was a great idea, Bohemian...I could actually get excited about this kind of sabotage vs. writing useless letters to my reps in Congress. Makes me feel like I'm accomplishing something (if nothing more than sticking it up their donkey).

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  3. #92

    Angry First It was Mamograms, Now it's Paps

    Report: Women in 20s can go 2 years between Paps in new guidelines
    Report: Women in 20s can go 2 years between Paps in new guidelines | freep.com | Detroit Free Press

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    Who said that the Government is not going to tell us who lives or dies?
    Semper Fi

  4. #93

    Meet The New ObamaCare Czar

    Meet The New ObamaCare Czar...

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    NoBamaCare

    Kill The Senate Bill Vote TOMORROW!

    Call & Fax Your Two Senators D.C. & Local Offices Today & Tomorrow, regardless whether you have done so already or not; get as many others as you possibly can to do the same...

    Both Faxes & Phone Calls Are Pivotal...

    U.S. Senate: Senators Home

    Phone the United States Capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121. A switchboard operator will connect you directly with the Senate office you request.

    Let them know, any Senator whom supports ObamaCare AKA: House Bill H.R. 3962, Senate Bill H.R. 3590, or others is a career ending Vote.

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

  5. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by JJFlash View Post
    Well, that was nice of 'em...I got an e-mail back from the Dems thanking me for writing my letter-to-the-editor showing my support for ObummerCare. You're welcome, you flaming idiots...

    This was a great idea, Bohemian...I could actually get excited about this kind of sabotage vs. writing useless letters to my reps in Congress. Makes me feel like I'm accomplishing something (if nothing more than sticking it up their donkey).
    I am seeing the same automated responses to the two times I added notes. I am also seeing them from the newspapers. Todays note was on Mammograms and Paps tests.
    Semper Fi

  6. #95

    Stop ObamaCare

    Urgent Calls Needed Against ObamaCare
    -- Vote is scheduled for tomorrow night

    Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
    8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
    Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
    http://gunowners.org


    Friday, November 20, 2009

    Tomorrow will be as important a day as any in our lifetimes in determining whether the anti-gun health care bill moves forward.

    The key vote will be on shutting down a Republican filibuster of the ObamaCare bill, HR 3590. In the Senate, we are faced with a health care bill that:

    * Costs $2.5 trillion during its first ten years of full implementation (2014-2023);

    * Increases insurance premiums and imposes $376 billion in tax increases -- many on the middle class; and

    * Cuts Medicare by $465 billion, while increasing health costs by over $100 billion.

    Fox News is reporting today that the word "tax" appears 183 times in the health care bill. Is Obama serious? Is that what he and Reid want to do to us in the midst of a recession?

    Of course, all this increased spending -- and taxes -- means that you will have less money to spend on pursuing your real passions: like providing for your family and purchasing guns and ammunition!

    The strategy in the Senate is to cram this bill down the American people's throats before we have a chance to fully read and evaluate it. And the vote on Saturday at 8:00 p.m. will determine whether, at least initially, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will be able to get away with this.

    Gun Owners of America has already gone into several states represented by key Democrats who will be central to the Saturday vote. But this is sufficiently important that all 100 senators need to know where we stand.

    Finally, as we have mentioned several times in the past, the mandates in the legislation will most likely dump your gun-related health data into a government database that was created in section 13001 of the stimulus bill. This includes any firearms-related information your doctor has gleaned... or any determination of PTSD, or something similar, that can preclude you from owning firearms.

    And, the special "wellness and prevention" programs (inserted by Section 1001 of the bill as part of a new Section 2717 in the Public Health Services Act) would allow the government to offer lower premiums to employers who bribe their employees to live healthier lifestyles -- and nothing within the bill would prohibit rabidly anti-gun HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius from decreeing that "no guns" is somehow healthier.

    We all need to contact our Senators right away.

    Do you want left-wing bureaucrats appointed by Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid determining whether you should own a gun via the health care system?

    If not, then you need to call right away. Our gun rights -- and the fate of our economy -- are hanging in the balance.

    ACTION: Call your two U.S. Senators. Please urge them to vote against "cloture" on the "motion to proceed" to HR 3590.

    You can call your Senators toll-free at 1-877-762-8762. The phones are ringing off the hook right now on Capitol Hill. More likely than not, you will have to try several times because the circuits have been overloaded.

    But don't be discouraged... keep calling!

    Also, ask your wife, your relatives, your neighbors, your church -- everyone, short of your dog -- to do the same. This is crunch time!

    NOTE: The alternate, non toll-free, number is 202-224-3121.

    ----- TALKING POINTS -----

    1) Support the filibuster of HR 3590 by voting NO on cloture.

    2) Socialized health care is too expensive. I would rather spend my money the way I want to spend it!

    3) Increasing my taxes during a recession is insane.

    4) This bill will threaten to register me as a gun owner, because the mandates in this bill will force my medical information into the database that was created by the stimulus bill.

    5) Vote NO on this bill!

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

  7. #96
    Slimy Politics Help Advance ObamaCare In The Senate
    -- But we still have a chance to kill this bill

    Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
    8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
    Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
    http://gunowners.org


    "Gun Owners of America sent out an action alert to its 300,000 members on Friday...." -- The Washington Post, November 23, 2009


    Monday, November 23, 2009

    By now, you have probably heard the bad news regarding Saturday night's vote on the anti-gun ObamaCare bill.

    Sixty Senators voted to bring the legislation to the Senate floor for discussion and debate, which means that rather than killing the bill outright, we must fight to defeat it another day.

    Saturday's vote was very, very important. And every Senator who supported the legislation should be taken to the woodshed for casting an all-important vote in favor of the bill, at a time when we had the best chance to kill ObamaCare.

    The good news is that we still hope to win our battle against ObamaCare, and we can do that because Saturday's vote was not the only opportunity to filibuster the bill. At least four Senators -- who voted for ObamaCare on Saturday -- have said they will support a filibuster if the bill stays in its current form.

    Nevertheless, it would have been nice to kill the legislation on Saturday, especially given that the American people had not had an opportunity to thoroughly look at it.

    As you know, GOA's legal team has reviewed each version of the legislation and found it wanting. GOA has reported on these problems for several months, and now, these concerns are starting to gain traction inside the Beltway.

    Today, The Washington Post reported that GOA's gun-related objections "could cause political indigestion for Democrats from conservative states," thus threatening the eventual passage of the bill. The Post said:

    "The conservative group Gun Owners of America sent out an action alert to its 300,000 members on Friday warning that the Senate legislation would mandate that doctors provide 'gun-related health data' to 'a government database,' including information on mental-health issues detected in patients, which could jeopardize their ability to obtain a firearms license.

    "In addition, the group said the legislation's 'wellness' provisions -- designed to encourage more healthful lifestyles -- would allow federal officials to mandate that companies charge higher insurance premiums for employees who own guns."

    Saturday night's "cloture vote" is not the end of the road for us. But for the so-called "moderate" Democrats -- Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, and Evan Bayh of Indiana -- it does make it clear that they were bribed into selling out the American people because Harry Reid ordered them to do so.

    Can you spell R-E-C-A-L-L? GOA is looking into which states are the best targets for recalls -- and you can be sure that we will be pursuing this option aggressively, exposing the Senators who sold their vote.

    Landrieu's price tag was $300 million -- paid for by the American taxpayer. When a lobbyist gives a financial present to a Senator, they go to prison. Well, what's the difference between that and what Harry Reid did? Senator Landrieu sold her vote!

    But do not lose heart. The bill will be debated in the Senate over the coming weeks. And the first step is to let your senators know of your approval of their "no" vote or your strong disapproval of their "yes" vote.

    Wondering how your Senator voted? Every Democrat and Independent Senator supported the bill. All Republican Senators voted "no," except for Senator Voinovich of Ohio who missed the vote. To see the official roll call vote, go to: take-action

    ACTION: Please write your Senators. Let them know how you feel about their votes on cloture Saturday night. You can use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send a pre-written message to your Senators -- the appropriate e-mail will automatically be sent, based on how they voted.

    ----- Prewritten letter for ANTI-GUN Senators who voted "yes" ------

    Dear Senator:

    Just so you know, I will not forget how you voted on Saturday, November 21 when you threw your support in favor of anti-gun socialized health care.

    Even if you vote against it at some point in the future, you went on record (on Saturday) to vote for higher taxes and more gun control, at a time when the forces of freedom had the best chance to kill the bill.

    I am VERY upset and I will not forget.

    Sincerely,

    ----- Prewritten letter to thank Senators who voted "no" ------

    Dear Senator:

    Thank you so much for your vote against cloture on ObamaCare. I totally support the vote that you cast.

    This bill will raise taxes and lead to more gun control, and I, for one, am glad that there are some Senators who are willing to stand up against socialized health care.

    Regarding the latter point, readers of The Washington Post saw in the November 23 edition that:

    "The conservative group Gun Owners of America sent out an action alert to its 300,000 members on Friday warning that the Senate legislation would mandate that doctors provide 'gun-related health data' to 'a government database,' including information on mental-health issues detected in patients, which could jeopardize their ability to obtain a firearms license.

    "In addition, the group said the legislation's 'wellness' provisions -- designed to encourage more healthful lifestyles -- would allow federal officials to mandate that companies charge higher insurance premiums for employees who own guns."

    I hope you will continue to oppose this bill and make sure the rights of gun owners are protected.

    Thank you.

    Sincerely,
    yournamehere

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    Olofson Relief Fund

    David Olofson has been subjected to a gross miscarriage of justice. What happened to Olofson could happen to any American who owns a semi-automatic firearm.

    He was convicted of knowingly transferring an unregistered machine gun -- a standard semi-auto rifle which fired two three-round bursts and then jammed. Gun owners call that a malfunction. The federal government calls it an easy way to get a felony conviction. David was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison.

    The Olofson Relief Fund has been set up to allow concerned Americans help the Olfosons make their mortgage and (their one) car payments while Dave is unable to work. Gun Owners of America is acting as the agent for the fund.

    ALL moneys collected will be transferred regularly to the mortgage and car loan holders.

    For more information about Olofson's railroading, and to contribute to the fund, please see: Olofson Relief Fund


    Notwithstanding, that no ban of a entire class/type of weapon is permitted under the Second Amendment period...

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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    At least four Senators -- who voted for ObamaCare on Saturday -- have said they will support a filibuster if the bill stays in its current form.
    What BS. They should have stopped it in its tracks by not letting it go to debate. IMAO.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. - Ronald Reagan

  9. #98

    My Letter To Senator Harry Reid (One of my 2 Senators)

    After taking a few days for the blood to stop shooting out of my eyes, I sat down and wrote Prince Harry Reid this letter this am...

    I will also be telephoning, faxing, emailing, and snail-mailing similar messages to him at his local & D.C. offices today.

    I encourage all to do the same to either of your two U.S. Senators whom sold out WE THE PEOPLE and the Constitution, this last Saturday...

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    Senator Reid,

    You continue to ignore the overwhelming majority of the American People, Nevadans, your Constituents and most of all the Constitution...

    We do not want "National Health Care", "Universal Health Care", "Socialized Medicine", or whatever you are calling it this week...
    This tax & spend, entitlement initiative AKA: ObamaCare is unacceptable...

    Notwithstanding, that the federal government in its entire history has yet to implement any government run program/department/agency that is not now a bankrupt, abysmal failure...

    E.G.:
    Medicare - Failed & Bankrupt.
    Medicaid - Failed & Bankrupt.
    Social Security - Failed & Bankrupt.
    Post Office - Failed & Bankrupt.

    Moreover, Congress has yet to accurately depict a accurate cost estimate on anything ever...
    IF you were a privately held company you would be out of business.
    We are not buying your snow job on cost savings and defect reduction, when gaping holes exist in how things will be paid for in their entirety; how you are going to give health care to more people when we do not have the doctors and nurses alone to cover all the currently uncovered.
    Further, your deceitful omission that nobody, regardless of how deserving they are; will receive any benefit until at least 2014...

    So let me get this straight you are going to strangle us further with more taxes on everything under the living sun for the next 5 years, so that you can provide us a so-called savings during 2015-2019? Come-on Senator Reid...

    WE THE PEOPLE CAN READ...

    The 2000 plus page behemoth legislation AKA: ObamaCare is the most offensive piece of legislation in U.S. History...
    And yes both the House & Senate versions are equally as atrocious and unconstitutional.

    Additionally, in the history of the world Socialized Medicine has always failed...

    E.G.:
    France rated #1 by the World Health Organization - Failed & Bankrupt.
    England - Failed & Bankrupt.
    Canada - Failed & Bankrupt.
    Russia - Failed & Bankrupt.

    Despite how noble you might think providing health care and prescription drugs might sound...

    The fact is the Federal Government, and that includes you Senate Majority Leader Reid; have absolutely no authority under the Constitution to get involved in such personal, private matters as health care...

    Further, Health Care Is Not A Right...

    You might try picking up a copy of the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights, The Federalist Papers, and pay particularity close attention to the Tenth Amendment...

    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    We can & will nullify this ObamaCare initiative, under at least the 10th Amendment, IF you continue to ignore WE THE PEOPLE.

    Please do bone up on your history Senator Reid, because this Administration and Congress of which you are a leader of are taking us lock step down the Socialist Road of the "Weimar Republic"

    We are broke Senator Reid, please stop spending us into oblivion...

    IF you continue to do so...

    The voices of WE THE PEOPLE will be heard loud & clear next year - CONGRESS YOUR FIRED.

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    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

  10. #99

    Anti-Gun Senate Health Care Bill - AKA: ObamaCare

    Is the Senate health plan anti-gun?

    By: Susan Ferrechio
    Chief Congressional Correspondent
    November 24, 2009

    The Senate's 2,074-page health care bill doesn't mention guns, but some gun owners are worried certain provisions could eventually be used to discourage or even restrict gun ownership as part of a government effort to influence behavior as it broadens its control over the health care system.

    The day before the Senate passed the $848 billion health bill on a party-line vote, the Virginia-based Gun Owners of America sent out a mass alert to its 300,000 members, warning them that the legislation "will most likely dump your gun-related health data into a government database. ... This includes any firearms-related information your doctor has gleaned or any determination of post traumatic stress disorder or something similar, that can preclude you from owning firearms."...

    The group warned that new "wellness and prevention" programs that would permit employers to offer employees lower premiums for healthier lifestyles do not include anything that would prohibit "rabidly anti-gun Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius from decreeing that 'no guns' is somehow healthier."

    With no specific legislative language relating to guns, it is unlikely the issue will become a major roadblock for the bill.
    But critics and gun owners have highlighted a larger concern about government interference if the legislation becomes law. The bill would expand coverage to 31 million people through subsidies and Medicaid expansion.

    "There is a broader issue here," said Dave Kopel, research director of the Independence Institute of Colorado, a libertarian think tank. "The more you socialize costs, the more you empower the argument that the government has the authority to control private behavior."

    Kopel pointed to the Japanese health care system, where employee waistlines are measured and those who are overweight are put into special weight loss programs, as an example of where the U.S. health care system could be headed.
    And gun control could become part of it, Kopel said.

    "If [the Department of Health and Human Services] can write regulations for lower premiums for healthy habits in general," Kopel said. "Then I don't see anything in the bill that stops HHS from saying people get higher premiums for unhealthy habits such as owning a gun or a handgun."

    Gun Owners of America spokesman Erich Pratt said the government has already blocked gun ownership through its access to the mental health records of military veterans. If a vet is diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder, his or her name is sent to a special database used to prohibit gun purchases. So far, 150,000 veterans have been denied firearms using the list, Pratt said. The Senate bill could widen government oversight of who can own a gun, he warned.

    "With these mandates, it is really going to be impossible to keep our medical information out of this database," Pratt said.
    Supporters of the bill said gun rights groups are trying to stir up unnecessary fear.

    "It is very clear they are misreading the bill," said Igor Volsky, a health care researcher for the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank. "All this bill does is define what a wellness program is. It is a broad definition, but it is not broad enough to net gun ownership."

    Is the Senate health plan anti-gun? | Washington Examiner

    Gun Owners of America




    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

  11. #100
    If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face-- forever. 1984 - George Orwell

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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