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    NoBamaCare

    From the Desk of:
    Steve Elliott, President, Grassfire.org Alliance

    "You will face ONE YEAR in prison for resisting
    ObamaCare. It's part of the massive lies and
    distortions designed to hide the real dangers of
    ObamaCare. Please see below." --Steve

    Fellow Supporter Of The constitution,

    Yesterday, the Senate Finance Committee staged two votes on
    adding the "public option" to the Baucus version of ObamaCare.

    I say "staged" because Senate Democrats fully expected both
    amendments to fail. That was their plan. They want YOU to
    think that the Senate version of ObamaCare will not include
    a "public option" and therefore it's not really a government-run
    system.

    That's simply a lie--In fact, it couldn't be further from the truth!

    The REAL truth is, ObamaCare with or without the public option
    is still a massively oppressive and unconstitutional government
    takeover of our healthcare system, and as citizens we cannot
    support it!

    But my Fellow Supporter Of The constitution, it gets worse.

    Senate Democrats plan to sneak the public option back in to the
    final ObamaCare bill when it moves to the Senate floor... when
    there will be little time for real debate... and no scrutiny
    of a Committee hearing!

    So the votes yesterday were an intentional distortion to get
    you and I off track -- to make us think that ObamaCare is
    moving to the middle and becoming a bi-partisan bill.

    But it gets worse...

    This is because as bad as the "public option" is, it isn't even
    the most insidious DANGER of ObamaCare.

    And what is the most insidious DANGER of the entire ObamaCare
    scheme? The unprecedented and unconstitutional INDIVIDUAL
    MANDATE. Here's why...

    + + The Individual Mandate is UNPRECEDENTED...

    According to the Congressional Budget Office:

    "A mandate requiring all individuals to purchase
    health insurance would be an unprecedented form of
    federal action. The government has never required
    people to buy any good or service as a condition
    of lawful residence in the United States."

    Never before in U.S. History has such a federal mandate been
    imposed on the people of the United States!

    Why? Because the individual mandate is unconstitutional.

    Let me say that again...

    THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

    If the individual mandate is considered a "regulation" then it
    most certainly is unconstitutional.

    Most of the expansion (ABUSE, USURPATION) of federal power of the past 90 years has
    taken place through the Commerce clause of the Constitution. In
    other words, if some activity impacts "commerce," Congress
    claims authority to regulate.

    But there is no "commerce" involved in "being" an American!
    As the CBO so clearly stated, such a mandate on "lawful
    residence" is unprecedented. That's because it is clearly
    unconstitutional!

    And here's where Obama and the Democrats run into trouble
    because the only way they can justify ObamaCare is to call
    it a tax instead of a regulation and then claim Congressional
    authority to tax.

    But scholars are saying that this type of tax is likely also
    unconstitutional. Plus, Obama said he "rejects the notion" that
    the individual mandate is a tax, fearing his plan will lose
    more support if it is exposed as a tax increase.

    Finally...

    + + The Individual Mandate IS Government Takeover

    With or without the so-called "public option", the Individual
    Mandate means ObamaCare is a government takeover of healthcare.
    That's because the individual mandate gives government control
    over the healthcare system by giving the government the
    authority to FORCE you to comply!

    In fact, if you don't pay the Individual Mandate TAX, you'll
    face up to a $25,000 fine or even ONE YEAR IN JAIL!

    There is no escaping the government-run ObamaCare system. This
    is the definition of a government takeover of healthcare!

    Here's what CATO Institute says about the Individual Mandate:

    "Simply making health insurance compulsory gives
    government as much control over healthcare as
    would a compulsory government program."

    So...

    We've been lied to...

    The truth has been distorted...

    And the real dangers of ObamaCare (the public option and the
    individual mandate) are alive and well.

    If you're not angry, you might want to check your pulse!

    I, for one, am outraged.

    And I'm not going to allow the Left to get away with their lies
    and distortions!

    The Senate Finance Committee is still voting. More key votes are
    just ahead.

    Here's what I'm asking you to do.

    Action Item #1 -- Fax Your Senators and the Committee Now

    Even if you have done so already, we are urging all team members
    to schedule faxes to their two senators and the key members of
    the Senate Finance Committee TODAY.

    Go here to schedule your faxes:
    http://www.grassfire.org/

    We have provided suggested text for your fax that specifically
    highlights the dangers of the Public Option and the Individual Mandate.

    If you prefer to send faxes on your own we've done all the work
    for you. Simply following links below to download targets and letters now:
    http://www.grassfire.org/

    + + Action Item #2 -- Call Your Two Senators and
    Key Committee Members

    Also... call your two Senators and tell them you oppose healthcare
    reform that includes any form of an individual mandate. Urge the
    Committee members to vote NO:

    http://www.senate.gov/

    http://www.house.gov/

    Sen. Reid 202-224-3542

    Sen. Ensign 202-224-6244

    Sen. Baucus (Chair): 202-224-2651

    Finance Committee: 202-224-4515

    We have listed other key Senate Committee phone numbers here:
    http://www.grassfire.org/



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    Last edited by lukem; 12-30-2010 at 10:57 AM.

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    Another anti-Obama contribution by the clueless one.

    Evidently he doesn't recognize the fact that Congress is primarily responsible for any possible healthcare legislation.

    But hey, why pass up another chance to smear his favorite President?

  4. Thumbs up Great Post

    I agree with bohemian here, Obamacare is not about taking care of people's health (which is not the government's responsibility in the first place), it is about a massive, intrusive take-over of personal freedom and basically enslavement of the U.S. population. I copied this and emailed it to folks on my email list. I urge you all to do the same. The same Obama who lets perverts "take care" of U.S. schoolchildren absolutely cannot be trusted with anything!

    TFO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tea For One View Post
    I agree with bohemian here, Obamacare is not about taking care of people's health (which is not the government's responsibility in the first place), it is about a massive, intrusive take-over of personal freedom and basically enslavement of the U.S. population. I copied this and emailed it to folks on my email list. I urge you all to do the same. The same Obama who lets perverts "take care" of U.S. schoolchildren absolutely cannot be trusted with anything!

    TFO

    +1. I trust Obama the fascist about as much as I would Hitler.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    I'm not aware of anything the government ever got involved with that ended up being more efficient or cheaper. But OTOH, something (I don't know what) has to be done to get healthcare costs under control. It's just ridiculous. I think the healthcare industry in general has turned into one big profit making scam with everyone from the doctors to the HMOs to the pharmaceutical makers and everyone in between in collusion to raise prices to the aboslutely unreasonably highest levels the market will bear - to the detrimet of society.

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    Crikey! We may have a meeting of the minds, here. Yeah, I agree with C&L, something needs to be done. I don't know, either, but maybe we could start with the obvious: tort reform, be able to purchase insurance across state lines, for starters. And I also agree with Bohemian with his intense dislike of B. Hussein. I think the man is a skunk (Hussein, not Bohemian), who is not to be trusted. And yeah, Congress does the legislating but the Pres sure can and does play a role. Oh and did I mention that I think Congress is populated with skunks, also?

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    Ding ding ding! We have a winner! Check out this Snopes review on the 545 people:

    snopes.com: Charley Reese - 545 People

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    Ding ding ding! We have a winner! Check out this Snopes review on the 545 people:

    snopes.com: Charley Reese - 545 People
    Well, the Snopes review was certainly interesting. It's the kind of thing that I guess we know, but don't stop to think about. I'm telling ya, C&L, I'm beside myself with frustration with this cast of characters and have been for a LONG time. Some folks, I'm sure who are as frustrated as I am, seem to handle it better with humor and whatnot. (Think Mark Twain: "Suppose you were a crook, and suppose you were in Congress, but then I repeat myself".) And maybe you can, too, I don't know. Me, I'm running flaming-red mad (but don't worry, I'll only shoot in life/death situation!; couldn't resist...). These skunks are interested only in feathering their own nests. Public servants, my ass. Glenn Beck (Oh boy, I bet I catch it for posting that name) makes a very similar point, basically, in his book Common Sense, in an early section which I just read last nite. Now, if I could only read this stuff without my blood pressure going thru the roof...

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    Senator Baucus Thinks You're Too Dumb to Understand Legislation
    -- Don't let your two U.S. Senators go along with his arrogance

    Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
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    Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
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    Friday, October 2, 2009

    It didn't seem like such an unreasonable request. Before the Senate Finance Committee passes one of the most important pieces of legislation in our lifetime, we (the American people) wanted to see two things:

    * First, the actual language of the latest anti-gun ObamaCare bill.

    * Second, a definitive Congressional Budget Office (CBO) reading of the cost of the legislation, based on its specific language.

    But, incredibly, this simple request is too much for Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, who intends to force the committee to vote on the bill with nothing but a "quickie guesstimate" of the cost -- a "guesstimate" which CBO will have to reach WITHOUT EVEN HAVING ACCESS TO THE ACTUAL LEGISLATION.

    That's right. The committee has virtually finished consideration of the health care bill -- the most important in our lifetime -- AND THERE IS STILL NO LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE.

    Shouldn't we at least have a cost estimate that is based on what is actually in the bill? Yes, but a full CBO cost estimate would take two weeks -- and this is inconsistent with efforts by liberal Democrats to cram this bill quickly down the throats of the American people.

    Moreover, don't you realize that "legislative language is very complex" and the American people are just too stupid to understand it.

    Well, are the members of the committee too stupid as well? And what about the CBO? Is it too stupid?

    A Third World country would be embarrassed by the sleaze, corruption, and fraud being used to pass the most expansive government intrusion into health care of our lifetime.

    It's time to put an end to these disgusting tricks.

    ACTION: Call your two U.S. Senators. Ask them to oppose any ObamaCare legislation -- at least until we have two things:

    1. The actual legislative language.

    2. A definitive Congressional Budget Office (CBO) reading of the cost of the legislation, based on what's in the bill.

    You can call your two Senators toll-free at 1-877-762-8762.

    You can also use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your senators the pre-written e-mail message below.

    ----- Pre-written letter -----

    Dear Senator:

    I would urge you, in the strongest terms, to resist considering any health care bill from the Senate Finance Committee until we have at least two things:

    * First, the actual legislative language.

    * Second, a definitive Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimate of the cost of the legislation, based on legislative language.

    It has been reported that, incredibly, this simple request is too much for Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, who intends to force the committee to vote on the bill with nothing but a "quickie guesstimate" of the cost -- a "guesstimate" which CBO will have to reach WITHOUT EVEN HAVING ACCESS TO THE ACTUAL LEGISLATION.

    It is unfathomable to me that the committee has virtually finished consideration of the health care bill -- the most important in our lifetime -- AND THERE IS STILL NO LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE.

    Contrary to Senator Baucus' assumptions, the American people are not too stupid to understand legislation which will affect whether they live or die.

    Neither are the members of the committee nor the CBO.

    A Third World country would be embarrassed by the sleaze, corruption, and fraud being used to pass the most expansive government intrusion into health care of our lifetime.

    Please vote against the legislation under these circumstances.

    Sincerely,
    yournamehere


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    Another anti-Obama contribution by the clueless one.

    Evidently he doesn't recognize the fact that Congress is primarily responsible for any possible healthcare legislation.

    But hey, why pass up another chance to smear his favorite President?

    Congress is responsible for all laws that are passed. However the congress we have now has been in place since 2006. When did the big push for health care reform start? After Obama was elected!!!!
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. - Ronald Reagan

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