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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    Remember guys, this had nothing to do W/ the news or church shootings. Let me restate it, You pastor has just told you that He honestly believes that God Himself has told him to ask you not to carry in church. Are you going to submit to his authority or not?


    No. God told me to carry.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    I came up in a Pentecostal church and now attend a non denominational full gospel church.

    I don't have Bible handy or I'd quote Scripture on this one but instead this is what I believe

    I believe that I am in the church that God wants me in. I wouldn't leave my church W/ out a direct release from God.

    I believe that God has placed the Pastor of my church in a position of spiritual authority over that church. As such he is accountable to God for what he teaches us and what he tells us.

    I believe that my Pastor hears from God and if he came to me and said " Treo I believe that God has directed me to ask that you not carry in church" I would accept it as God's will unless I had a direct leading otherwise that I felt was from God

    Biblically speaking the Pastor is placed in a position of authority over his congregation, I am one of the biggest advocates on this board of carrying everywhere I legally can and if I went to church Sunday and the pastor asked me not to carry, unless I got a no doubt check in my spirit that this isn’t right, I'd disarm. If I wasn't sure, I'd disarm & I believe God would honor it. (Now either you'll understand what I just said or you won't & if you don't me explaining it isn't going to help).

    As an article of Faith I would rather be unarmed in church & in the will of God than armed and out of the will of God. I would trust God even looking down the barrel of a gun

  4. I figure it this way.

    The pastor of a church is the leader of the congregation. If anybody has the authority (for lack of a better term) in the church to make this request, it's him. That means you have two options.

    1. Honor his request just as you would (hopefully) honor the request if you were visiting someone at their home.

    2. Ignore the request and take your chances.

    Personally, I'd honor his request by finding another congregation to worship with AND I'd make sure he understood why I was leaving. After all, doesn't it say in Luke that Jesus told his disciples to own a sword even if it meant to sell their coat. (The term in the KJV translated as 'coat' actually is the outer garment used at the time. To be without one in public was considered to be 'undressed' or the modern equivalent of running around in public in your underwear.)

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    Treo I understanding what you are saying and will just say that I disagree somewhat. My wife was Catholic growing up and there are many areas that her and I now disagree with the Catholic church. One is the Pope being infalable. I do not think any church leader is. I listen to my pastor and others and consider their advice but God also gave me the ability to read scripture for my self and I have to way what others say with what I feel scripture says. Our former pastor said one tiime that God answered 90% of our prayers when he gave us a brain. Each of us has to do what we think God would have us do. In my case if my pastor ask me not to carry then as stated I would pray for God to lead me to another church. As I said though thankfully that is a choice I will not have to make because my pastor is pro 2nd Amendment and in fact carries a firearm as well as most of the rest of the staff.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    No. God told me to carry.
    How has God told you to Carry?
    Called you on the phone? Email? Text Message? Snail mail? You heard a voice telling you to carry?

    I really want to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theicemanmpls View Post
    How has God told you to Carry?
    Called you on the phone? Email? Text Message? Snail mail? You heard a voice telling you to carry?

    I really want to know.
    Dont bother asking. You wouldn't understand.

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    If you truly want to know then don't ask here. Cut your computer off and ask for real. There was a gent who really antagonized the church many years ago. He was a really smart guy, studied real hard, learned lots, and thought he had everything under his control. He was even given a very powerful position. One day he was walking with some buds and the Lord spoke to him in a way that he could not be mistaken about. Afterwards he was shown even more proof that God had indeed touched his life. He finally had a change of heart. Cut your machine off and really ask----from your heart. You are a good gent. Very mislead and I do not say that to antagonize you but to just state my observations. If you are as sincere as you seem then why not ask--from your heart. You may be really surprised at what you find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theicemanmpls View Post
    How has God told you to Carry?
    Called you on the phone? Email? Text Message? Snail mail? You heard a voice telling you to carry?

    I really want to know.

    Suffice it to say that if you accept the premise of an all powerful creator the idea that He could communicate W/ His followers in such a way as to make His identity clear is a very small leap indeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    No. God told me to carry.
    Good answer.
    AMERICA'S EPITAPH
    Since They Did Not See Fit To Acknowledge God, He Gave Them Up To A Depraved Mind, To Do What Should Not Be Done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    Suffice it to say that if you accept the premise of an all powerful creator the idea that He could communicate W/ His followers in such a way as to make His identity clear is a very small leap indeed
    Let me make this perfectly clear,,,,
    I am not mocking anyone's faith.

    I have heard this expression, or words to this effect several times;
    "God told me to do this, or that" "I prayed to God, and he answered my prayer"
    How does God, the supreme being, communicate with mortal man?

    I gave several examples of modern communication in my past posting. That made someone so angry, he started a public letter demanding my head. Is this God's way of silencing me? Does God read USA CARRY?

    Treo, you are saying if I become a beliver, then God will communicate with me? I am asking, how? In what form?
    Voices in my head? A whisper behind my back? What?

    I thought this forum allowed postings about God, and those with questions about God. I ask questions, and am labeled a troll.

    Not very nice if you ask me.

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