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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    I take it we're dealing W/ a troll who's been here before?
    We have a revolving troll door here.

    Everybody uses it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theicemanmpls View Post
    Let me make this perfectly clear,,,,
    I am not mocking anyone's faith.

    I have heard this expression, or words to this effect several times;
    "God told me to do this, or that" "I prayed to God, and he answered my prayer"
    How does God, the supreme being, communicate with mortal man?

    I gave several examples of modern communication in my past posting. That made someone so angry, he started a public letter demanding my head. Is this God's way of silencing me? Does God read USA CARRY?

    Treo, you are saying if I become a beliver, then God will communicate with me? I am asking, how? In what form?
    Voices in my head? A whisper behind my back? What?

    I thought this forum allowed postings about God, and those with questions about God. I ask questions, and am labeled a troll.

    Not very nice if you ask me.


    To the OP-
    Forgive me for a slight hijack.
    BOT @ the bottom of this post!


    Iceman.. I really appreciate your approach to this question.

    Your assumtion is correct that you must have some sort of relationship with God in order to understand the way he communicates with believers.


    For the "unbeliever" AND "believer" alike:
    God's primary way of communicating is the Holy Bible.
    But, this does NOT mean that the heavenly FATHER communicates solely through his WORD.

    BUT!!!

    The "Holy" Bible is the STANDARD to which ALL communcations about GOD and the "spirit" world should be weighed.



    Another method God uses to speak to our "spirit" is through the "Holy" SPIRIT.

    For the unbeliever, the Holy Spirit's message usually begins with a prompting to ASK questions about God, life, death, morality, etc.
    (Much like the questions you're asking here)


    "IF" the UNbeliever is "truly" seeking answers from GOD, he WILL get them!


    Often the answers come from "believers" who point to the WORD as reference.

    Then, if the unbeliever still seeks more "TRUTH", the "Holy" Spirit (aka; Spirit of TRUTH) will begin the process known as "conviction".
    (This process will "hopefully" lead the unbeliever to understand their need for repentence and salvation.)

    With the process of repentence comes salvation. SALVATION will bring you into RELATIONSHIP with God. This will allow "OPEN" and "FULL" communicationwith God. (Even unbelievers know how difficult it is to "communicate" someone unless there is a "relationship" AND "speak" the same language.)

    Again:
    This transformation or RE-birth of our spirit man needs to take place in order for us to communicate "FULLY" with God.
    (Until we are "reborn" as the WORD says, we are limited in our ability to hear from HIM.)

    To sum it up:
    The "Holy" SPIRIT of God can/does speak to the "spirit" of man.
    (It is a SPIRIT to spirit communication.)

    But, he also uses his WORD which is the "Holy" Bible; AND he uses other believers. (ie; prophets, teachers, evangelists, pastors AND fellow Christians)

    Our ability to "UNDERSTAND" what god is saying to us IS directly liked to the amount of FAITH (aka Trust) we have in HIM; and it is also dependent on our WILLINGNESS to walk "obediently" in HIM.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    NOW, back to topic:
    If my pastor came to me in the manner described, I would most likely take issue with his method. A "mature" pastor should call you into his office for a "PRIVATE" conversation; if he has problems with CC in church.

    AND

    For me, being able to CC in church is part of "my" membership agreement. So if the leadership broke that agreement, I would take it as a message that they NO longer wanted my membership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcox4freedom View Post
    To the OP-
    Forgive me for a slight hijack.
    BOT @ the bottom of this post!


    Iceman.. I really appreciate your approach to this question.

    Your assumtion is correct that you must have some sort of relationship with God in order to understand the way he communicates with believers.


    For the "unbeliever" AND "believer" alike:
    God's primary way of communicating is the Holy Bible.
    But, this does NOT mean that the heavenly FATHER communicates solely through his WORD.

    BUT!!!

    The "Holy" Bible is the STANDARD to which ALL communcations about GOD and the "spirit" world should be weighed.



    Another method God uses to speak to our "spirit" is through the "Holy" SPIRIT.

    For the unbeliever, the Holy Spirit's message usually begins with a prompting to ASK questions about God, life, death, morality, etc.
    (Much like the questions you're asking here)


    "IF" the UNbeliever is "truly" seeking answers from GOD, he WILL get them!


    Often the answers come from "believers" who point to the WORD as reference.

    Then, if the unbeliever still seeks more "TRUTH", the "Holy" Spirit (aka; Spirit of TRUTH) will begin the process known as "conviction".
    (This process will "hopefully" lead the unbeliever to understand their need for repentence and salvation.)

    With the process of repentence comes salvation. SALVATION will bring you into RELATIONSHIP with God. This will allow "OPEN" and "FULL" communicationwith God. (Even unbelievers know how difficult it is to "communicate" someone unless there is a "relationship" AND "speak" the same language.)

    Again:
    This transformation or RE-birth of our spirit man needs to take place in order for us to communicate "FULLY" with God.
    (Until we are "reborn" as the WORD says, we are limited in our ability to hear from HIM.)

    To sum it up:
    The "Holy" SPIRIT of God can/does speak to the "spirit" of man.
    (It is a SPIRIT to spirit communication.)

    But, he also uses his WORD which is the "Holy" Bible; AND he uses other believers. (ie; prophets, teachers, evangelists, pastors AND fellow Christians)

    Our ability to "UNDERSTAND" what god is saying to us IS directly liked to the amount of FAITH (aka Trust) we have in HIM; and it is also dependent on our WILLINGNESS to walk "obediently" in HIM.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    NOW, back to topic:
    If my pastor came to me in the manner described, I would most likely take issue with his method. A "mature" pastor should call you into his office for a "PRIVATE" conversation; if he has problems with CC in church.

    AND

    For me, being able to CC in church is part of "my" membership agreement. So if the leadership broke that agreement, I would take it as a message that they NO longer wanted my membership.
    Tcox, thank you for spending the time answering my question. You are the only person in this thread who don't have their head stuck up their anus.
    So, what you saying, until I become one of you people, I won't get communications from God?
    There are a few here who are spiritual. I like these guys.
    The ultra religious zealots, IMO, should take a very long walk on a short pier.
    Hey, conservative liberal, knock off all the cursing, its making you look stupid.
    We already have a full house of stupid.

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    Life Trumps Property...

    The Second Amendment does not state "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" Except...

    IF your zip code is x...
    OR your standing at y...
    OR if the Class/Type of weapon you desire to own/carry is z...
    OR if said weapon is carried openly or concealed...

    That being said...

    ALWAYS CARRY, NEVER TELL...

    Sunday of sorrow
    2 killed, 7 injured in church shooting (Gun-Free Zone)



    Al-Qaeda Radicalized American Muslim Kills 13 wounds 31 at Fort Hood...
    (Gun Free Zone)



    Virginia Tech - 32 People Killed 17 others wounded... (GUN FREE ZONE)















    VOTE FREEDOM FIRST, WITHOUT OUR LIBERTIES, WE HAVE NOTHING...

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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    You know how in email or web forums it is considered impolite to constantly TYPE IN ALL CAPS? It is considered the online equivalent of shouting and bad cyber etiquette.

    The gypsy is taking that to a new level. He has such little respect for you as members of this forum be belives nothing less than full-sized in-your-face graphics will do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    The Second Amendment does not state "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" Except...

    IF your zip code is x...
    OR your standing at y...
    OR if the Class/Type of weapon you desire to own/carry is z...
    OR if said weapon is carried openly or concealed...

    That being said...

    ALWAYS CARRY, NEVER TELL...

    Sunday of sorrow
    2 killed, 7 injured in church shooting (Gun-Free Zone)



    Al-Qaeda Radicalized American Muslim Kills 13 wounds 31 at Fort Hood...
    (Gun Free Zone)



    Virginia Tech - 32 People Killed 17 others wounded... (GUN FREE ZONE)















    VOTE FREEDOM FIRST, WITHOUT OUR LIBERTIES, WE HAVE NOTHING...
    +1. And check the web for info on the Wedgewood Baptist Church shooting here in Fort Worth. That incident woke up a lot of pastors around here.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    The Second Amendment does not state "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" Except...

    IF your zip code is x...
    OR your standing at y...
    OR if the Class/Type of weapon you desire to own/carry is z...
    OR if said weapon is carried openly or concealed...

    That being said...

    ALWAYS CARRY, NEVER TELL...

    Sunday of sorrow
    2 killed, 7 injured in church shooting (Gun-Free Zone)



    Al-Qaeda Radicalized American Muslim Kills 13 wounds 31 at Fort Hood...
    (Gun Free Zone)



    Virginia Tech - 32 People Killed 17 others wounded... (GUN FREE ZONE)















    VOTE FREEDOM FIRST, WITHOUT OUR LIBERTIES, WE HAVE NOTHING...
    C&L, I agree. But isn't it fun, getting all this attention, and wasting Luke's server space? I wonder if he has one of them servers that deals in Terra-bites? Not even our Gypsy has a chance on filling it up. I for one think postings of this style should be eliminated.

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    Following these threads in the "Religion and Guns" section has shown something to me. It seems those who wanted religion banned completely from USA carry have made some of the religion threads among the most popular of any. It makes me wonder why anyone so adamant about not having religious discussions would join in on just about every one of them. Of course some attack rather than discuss but could that maybe be their way of seeking understanding?

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