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  1. Pilgrims

    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    It's actually a very good analogy, and a complete refutation of mclureb's righteous conclusion in a wholly prejudiced self-asked/answered judgement.

    Sorry you just can't see it with the Christian blinders on.
    Evidently you didn’t read my first post carefully so I’ll go a little slower. I wrote “people of a different "faith" would immigrate to nations”. First there was no nation, no United States when the Pilgrims migrated, no national government of laws only a north American continent. They did not settle in cities among other people and cultures with established laws.

    As opposed to the Muslims that are moving into nations and attempting to subvert the culture and established laws. Europe provides many examples as does the city of Dearborn, MI which is called by many Muslims who live there “Hezbollah City” or “Hezbollah USA”

    My statement was not “wholly prejudiced self-asked/answered judgement” but an analysis supported by fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketboy View Post
    Please give an example of how your (or others) freedoms, in the US, have been infringed upon as a result of Islam, or any other religion you don't agree with.
    I see that no matter what I say, there will be disagreement here. That's kind of sad because what I said was factual and of concern, although sometimes in life those facts are hard facts. I can't defend the acts of all people who are affiliated with certain religious groups, as you are unable to defend the acts of all those not affiliated with certain religious groups. I believe this is called a "Red Herring" arguement.

    I am happy to say that my rights as a United States Citizen have not been directly infringed by "Islam." This may not be the case when it comes to healthcare in the Unted States. I, like most others, am now mandated to purchase health insurance, whereas certain religious groups, including Muslims, are exempt from the legislation. Government mandated inequality? A violation of my rights? Well, I guess it depends on one's opinion. I'm not here to change opinions, just to give the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketboy View Post
    Please give an example of how your (or others) freedoms, in the US, have been infringed upon as a result of Islam, or any other religion you don't agree with.
    Ahhhh, lets start with this thing called 911. How bout the BILLONS of tax dollars being spent on DHS. THEY have effected every American Tax payer. (Or at least the ones that actually pay taxes). The freedom of me to spend the fruits of my labor has been infringed upon in the name of the Islam.
    "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." --author and philosopher Ayn Rand (1905-1982)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mappow View Post
    Ahhhh, lets start with this thing called 911. How bout the BILLONS of tax dollars being spent on DHS. THEY have effected every American Tax payer. (Or at least the ones that actually pay taxes). The freedom of me to spend the fruits of my labor has been infringed upon in the name of the Islam.
    As has our right to freely travel about our own country without "big brother" reaching down our pants.
    Prov. 27:3 - "Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but provocation by a fool is heavier than both"

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    O.K. guys we will just have to admit that some people have their mind made up and we can not confuse them with the facts. If they want to pretend that Muslims are not dangerous or if they want to pretend 2+2 is not 4 let them have at it.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    O.K. guys we will just have to admit that some people have their mind made up...
    As long as you're at it you could also admit to being a religiously intolerant bigot and get that out of the way as well.

    C'mon HK - JayJay did it, now jump on that bandwagon, why dont'cha?

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    I am intolerant. Intolerant when it comes to fools.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    I am intolerant. Intolerant when it coms to fools.
    +1 HK4U

    And let me add to MY intolerance: I can be prejudice, one-way, black and white, right over wrong, light not darkness, good not evil, et cetera, et cetera ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    As long as you're at it you could also admit to being a religiously intolerant bigot and get that out of the way as well.
    Not sure of the moniker "Intolerant". Just because someone has a belief in something and another does not believe in that belief, one would then be in disagreement.
    Intolerant as defined is showing an unwillingness or refusal to accept people who are different from you, or views, beliefs, or lifestyles that differ from your own.
    A point could be made that yes, I am intolerant but another point could be made that I will not tolerate those that wish to make me believe their ways or be killed because of it. The Jews were intolerant of the Germans, the Cambodian people were intolerant of the Khmer Rouge. The genocide in Darfur.
    Many examples of people being intolerant but being slaughtered. I also failed to find "intolerant or tolerance" in the Bill of Rights or US Constitution.
    The only thing SOME people cling on is the word INTOLERANCE. It's whipped out like a CC weapon you may have. 'BY GOD" they don't believe in what I am or saying or my behavior........."YOU MUST BE A BIGOT OR AT LEAST A PIECE OF INTOLERANT TRASH"
    Just not any power in that word anymore, at least for me. BUT please feel free to use it anytime. It justifies ones perversion of the truth and or facts.
    "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." --author and philosopher Ayn Rand (1905-1982)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    As long as you're at it you could also admit to being a religiously intolerant bigot and get that out of the way as well.

    C'mon HK - JayJay did it, now jump on that bandwagon, why dont'cha?
    I'm intolerant as well. Intolerant of pathetic liberal losers sitting in the high country with no religious beliefs, telling everyone how it should be and how we should feel about a religion that is more like a cult. How the country would be so much better off by allowing the muslims to come and make this country comfortable for their way of life. We have our opinions and will stick to them to the end. You won't like my opinions and I care little for yours...

    Liberalism is a sickness that requires strong meds to rid this country of it....

    The high country is a chemically induced state of mind huh?
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

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