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    Quote Originally Posted by JJFlash View Post
    Obviously, you didn't get the point. And your post isn't worth much. Anybody else?
    Well state what your point is. And that is your opinion and you are welcomed to it others with reason will see that the word terrorist can be used to describe you and your post on this forum. As not being worth much I told you how to tell who in your scenario would be the one to shoot by using logic to solve the problem instead of saying just shoot em both and let god decide.

    What you are failing to realize is that your fear will cause Muslims to fear those who think like you do. If that happens it will become lets attack them before they attack us stupidity. Which will lead to useless violence that could have been avoided.

    So unless you think most American are going to become Muslim you are worrying about what ifs. Unlike Europe and the UK we Americans have arms that can be used to defend our constitution. And if the need arise for it I know some will use their arms to protect the US constitution while others will just stand by.

    Most have forgotten the reason for the second amendment was to remind the government that they are only there to server the people. By that I mean that if the government decided to do things the people did not want they would have to worry about the people taking up arms against them. Why do you think that no other country allows their citizens to have arms it is to keep them as subjects. You are a citizens if you have arms to defend yourself and your rights without arms you are forced to follow what the government tells you to do or die resisting.

    So thinking that Muslims laws will be enforced here in the USA means that you must believe that most Americans are going to become Muslim. I find that hard to believe for that is the only way for their laws to take effect here in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    That's the problem with (f)ear. It make you do and/or say stupid things. When the object of the fear is an (u)certain entity, alien or different, not easily understood, the fear is amplified. You begin to (d)oubt your fundamental security and the basic foundation of your world seems at risk. So there you have it:

    FUD

    Have a great FUD day all you muzzie haters!
    You must have beaten me to the punch in editting the search tags on this thread to include the most apropriate tag of FUD.

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    My point is a serious one (and I thought, readily apparent, but obviously not) and has nothing to do with "hate" and for cryin' out loud, stop calling me a terrorist. Makes you look like you're 6 yrs old.

    This country and western civilization has an enemy which wishes to destroy it. They've stated it, their "religious book" states it. For the sake of the discussion, I will concede that not all muslims are terrorists. However, a serious percentage of muslims worldwide are either terrorist or support "soft" or "hard" jihad. Their intent is surely well-known.

    So, the question becomes what are we to do? This enemy is serious and dedicated. Does anyone doubt that a nuclear strike would be imminent were they to get their hands on the goods?

    My point is we don't know who is who. So, the issue is one of identification and trust, not fear or hate. If you have any good answers besides simply ignoring the reality of the situation, I'd be willing to listen.

    (BTW, in my original scenario, the muslims were robed, specifically to hide the knife which would be used to cut your damn head off. And I don't recall saying to shoot them both. Crikey...)
    Prov. 27:3 - "Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but provocation by a fool is heavier than both"

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuhr52 View Post
    I don't believe all muslims are a threat. In most exstreamist groups there are a few that set the tone for the group. Look at the enviromental and animal rights groups. As for the US Government behind 9/11, the only proof is that GW was president and he is the root of all of the US problems sense 1775. Some how for those eight years. congress had no power to do anything, but the president did. If Al Gore had been president this would be a non issue.
    Bush is not the cause of all that is wrong since 1775. But he is the cause of why most of the world hates America. How can you say Do what America says not what America does and expect to be liked. Bush did things that America was telling other countries it was wrong to do. He came out an listed the axis of evil which China was a part of but forgot that they were the ones suppling the USA with the money to fight the war so now America is in debt to China no one who was alive in the 50's would believe that the USA would ever be in debt to a communist country like China. So while Bush is not responsible for all of the problems in America he is responsible for the major problems. Clinton left the USA with no deficit and in 8 years Bush put us back into a deficit and now the deficit is getting bigger with Obama due to no one wanting the tax cuts Bush put into effect to end.


    Quote Originally Posted by fuhr52 View Post
    As for the US Government behind 9/11, the only proof is that GW was president and he is the root of all of the US problems sense 1775. Some how for those eight years. congress had no power to do anything, but the president did. If Al Gore had been president this would be a non issue.
    For my reasons believing that the government was behind 9/11 -->http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...7491142118919#

    After watching this it brought up some questions that no one was willing to answer and the answers given why the building collapse the way it did did not add up with all the data proving how a building should behave when set on fire. If you are willing to take the time to watch the whole video you will see that there is more proof or mistakes made by the reporters that support prior knowledge to what was about to happen. As far as definite proof goes that has all been removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuhr52 View Post
    If Al Gore had been president this would be a non issue.
    Unforchantly we will never know.
    Last edited by Kasper; 12-30-2010 at 03:10 PM. Reason: spelling and adding web link

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    I can see we are on different sides of this coin and I will agree to disagree. Nothing I have to say will change your progressive liberal stance and that's ok. That is what makes the good ol' USA great.
    "You can get a lot accomplished if you don't care who gets the credit" - Ronald Reagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJFlash View Post
    (BTW, in my original scenario, the muslims were robed, specifically to hide the knife which would be used to cut your damn head off. And I don't recall saying to shoot them both. Crikey...)
    Sorry JJflash I owe you an apology since you did not say to shoot them both. I was the one who said it not you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasper View Post
    Sorry JJflash I owe you an apology since you did not say to shoot them both. I was the one who said it not you.
    No problem. It happens.
    Prov. 27:3 - "Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but provocation by a fool is heavier than both"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasper View Post
    Well state what your point is.
    I believe point is/was that some people seem to be afraid there is an increasing likelihood of encountering robed Muslims with hidden swords intending to behead strangers walking the streets of the good 'ol USA.

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    Guys you can not change the mind of left leaning lib tards because they have little mind to strat with.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    Guys you can not change the mind of left leaning lib tards because they have little mind to strat with.
    An that is supposed to be an example of an intelligent well reasoned reply?

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