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  1. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by JJFlash View Post
    Did you not post in another thread about how Sharia Law is working just fine in England? Yeah, that was you. I checked. And "Americans" are brainwashed? That's interesting.
    I, apparently, am the naive, brainwashed, and ludicrous American. My statement about 5 to 10% of any population being the extremists, or in this case, the antagonizers, seem to hold true here as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by father-of-three View Post
    My statement about 5 to 10% of any population being the extremists, or in this case, the antagonizers, seem to hold true here as well.
    Your point? That generalizing and stereotyping about entire classes/races/populations of people is a useless, racist approach used by propaganda peddlers to opress their enemies and achieve selfish objectives?

    I'll go along with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    Your point? That generalizing and stereotyping about entire classes/races/populations of people is a useless, racist approach used by propaganda peddlers to opress their enemies and achieve selfish objectives?

    I'll go along with that.
    You are free to draw whatever conclusions opinions you wish, as you do already. So I guess now I'm a racist and a selfish propaganda peddler too?

    You seem nice and respectable when the site administrator posts, but when most anyone else has a comment, they get both barrels. I think the oppression you speak of is a little more widespread here than the typical "cocked and locked" opinion. It would be great if that were different, but that is up to you.

    Peace. And respect would be nice too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by father-of-three View Post
    You are free to draw whatever conclusions opinions you wish, as you do already. So I guess now I'm a racist and a selfish propaganda peddler too?

    You seem nice and respectable when the site administrator posts, but when most anyone else has a comment, they get both barrels. I think the oppression you speak of is a little more widespread here than the typical "cocked and locked" opinion. It would be great if that were different, but that is up to you.

    Peace. And respect would be nice too.
    He's good at labeling... I don't think he has 2 barrels...

    Its the same old same old... No one else could possibly have an opinion that could rival his own... No one should be entitled to have an opinion that is possibly hostile, counter cultural, or intolerant... Liberal mindset all the way...
    Could never possibly see that some people think on their own and come to conclusions of their own accord.

    Anyway... One more for the list, although this one technically crosses over to 2011 but its so close. I'll stipulate that no one group has come forward to claim responsibility for this yet, but that local authorities seem to recognize the signature...

    Egypt Coptic Church bombing Mideast Christians: Coptic church bombed in Alexandria, Egypt; 21 dead - latimes.com

    Something wicked this way comes...
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    Total crock 'o shyt.

    Just swap Muslim for Christian, Islam for Christianity, post it on another forum, same hate purveying crock 'o shyt story. This one happens to have guns in it to make it relevant here.

    Niiiice.
    Better be careful. You will get a notice from the site administrator about language. No kidding.

  7. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by handgonnetoter View Post
    Better be careful. You will get a notice from the site administrator about language. No kidding.
    No, this is the guy who deals it out both barrels but if you give it back, he runs to the admin and you get the warning. The site admin here admits that he only reacts to PMs that he gets. This guy is not afraid to run squealing to the admins.

    The fact that he's been allowed to run roughshod over this site in the 2 yrs I've been around is beyond the pale. I watched him pull the same shyte on another site and within about 3 posts, he was banned. But, not here. Go figure.

    Ban me if you want, Luke, but that is the truth. And many more than just me know it, too.
    Prov. 27:3 - "Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but provocation by a fool is heavier than both"

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    +111111

  9. #58
    JJ, you just aren’t getting it. When Half cocked berates and insults the good people on this site, as he very often will do, he will always end in a smiley icon. That is how he or she can urinate all over this site with a smile and the good folks here and get away with it. Just like the several other sites he was banned were urinated on as well, with a smile.:
    You just arn't doing it right,:laugh You must first insult and then add a smiley. See how easy it is, now you can insult with a smile and the admins will leave you alone. This is how the bedwetters get away with there insults. Try this Anti Banning Smile technique.:laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by father-of-three View Post
    It's not about hate, it's about asking the hard questions to get the real answers, which offends some groups into making biased accusations of religious bigotry when those hard questions are asked. It's about making sure the freedoms are available for all, and I include Muslims in that "all." There's just a lot of examples of the "freedom for all" scenario not working out when Islam is invloved. Islam and the first amendment are diametrically opposed to each other (see Denmark below). As would be the second amendment in the case of a Muslim majority, because they would not allow an infidel like myself armed. Think Hitler, Idi Amin, and Pol Pot, to name a few, not necessarily all Muslim, but terroristic leaders who have taken freedoms away at the cost of human life. A form of Islam agreeable to the Constitution would be cool, but the rest of the Islamic world has not yet shown us this comprimise as a viable way of life.

    It is one of the better kept secrets that the KKK was the official extremist wing of the democrat party in the 19th century. When post war reconstruction lessened in the 1880s, they got stronger. Like above, it's easy to kill those who don't agree with you when their rights have been taken away and they can't defend themselves.

    The wiki article is interesting. Thanks for the facts 6-Shooter! Slightly off topic, but there's still a lot happening in Northern Ireland we don't hear about, but nowhere near the violence in and around the middle east. And Denmark, of all places. There still appears to be a lot of anger towards that cartoonist and the newspaper who did the Mohammed cartoon. I don't see the Muslim world standing up for the cartoonist's first amendment rights. Instead, threats and attempts were made to kill him, not to dissimilar from the opening story of this thread.

    I have said this before and I will say it again. If the extremist Muslims, that approximate 10% figure (yes, only an approximate guess), which adds up to 150 million(!), are really not the majority of Muslim thinking, then we should all be suffering from hearing loss from the other 90% of Muslims who should be yelling from the rooftops that the 10% are wrong! But we don't hear this. I would make the case that they, too, would be fearing for their lives due to the lack of protection and rights from their governments, which is why I do not want to lose the government I have.
    And I find it concerning that the 10% figure is about half of the entire United States population. Even at 5%, thats 75 million? If there are groups/cultures/countries that have significantly less than 5% crime/jail/violence rate, seriously, please let me know. Some groups have 20% that fall into this "bad-boy" category. Yikes!

    I'm not looking to "slam" the other side here. I'm just looking to have an honest and respectable discussion without the mudslinging and name calling.
    You're welcome... I have no issue with anyone worshiping here with the same intent as our founders; seeking freedom from oppression and violence and being free to live without restrictions. If they come here with the intent to fundamentally change the country, make the environment suite their needs and have the native population modify the way they live to conform with their standards, laws or behaviors... I'll not comply.

    As long as they respect the rights of others, I'll tolerate. If they are disrespectful of my rights and the right's of others and become violent to further a cause (which seems to be the going theme) I'll no longer be tolerant.

    When the towers fell and millions of them were dancing in the streets that was appalling. When the preacher made a statement that he was going to burn the book and they turned to violence and made threats to indicate they were displeased I was appalled. I recall the fear and violence that spread when the book "The Satanic Verses" was published and sold, Appalling...
    The distrust is not unfounded.

    The labels and names have been thrown around here enough...
    Racist, Bigot... Blah... yada...

    I'm sticking to my opinion and will not be swayed. Time to move on to other things...
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 38+Pgal View Post
    JJ, you just arenít getting it. When Half cocked berates and insults the good people on this site, as he very often will do, he will always end in a smiley icon. That is how he or she can urinate all over this site with a smile and the good folks here and get away with it. Just like the several other sites he was banned were urinated on as well, with a smile.:
    You just arn't doing it right,:laugh You must first insult and then add a smiley. See how easy it is, now you can insult with a smile and the admins will leave you alone. This is how the bedwetters get away with there insults. Try this Anti Banning Smile technique.:laugh
    Well, tie my face to the side of a hog and roll me in the mud (Sound of hand slapping forehead). I do believe you're right, 38+Pgal. 'Ol dopey me...I'll for sure keep the rules of the game in mind from here on out. Thank you!
    Prov. 27:3 - "Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but provocation by a fool is heavier than both"

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