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    Quote Originally Posted by Robgmn View Post
    Teach them some Karate kata.
    Some similar positioning (and locked knees usually gets you knocked over by Sensei).
    Excellent point. It is not only about a stable stance that allows one to repetitively shoot without getting pushed back by the recoil, but also about the ability to move smoothly in different directions or to different positions while maintaining stability.

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    Two articles about stance by the same author: An evolution of understanding.

    OH, DEAR: Rob Pincus Doesn’t Understand The Weaver Position
    My Criticism Of Rob Pincus Was Dumb. Here’s Why.

    My chosen quote:

    In the end, position names don’t matter, as long as you can get the hits to stop the fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly Adam View Post
    I see this one all the time when teaching stance, you coach the student to lean forward or to bend at the hips, loosen up the knees. What do they do-- they lock their knees and lean way way. Over and over!

    How would you proceed?
    As far as teaching basic fundamentals as-mentioned subsequent to your OP, this question isn't really relevant in either case, but I'm just curious - Are you instructing in a beginner defensive pistol (or "tactical" if you prefer) course, or are you preparing students to pass a qualification test to get their permission slip to carry? The reason I say teaching basic fundamentals in either case is irrelevant to the question is because there's nothing to be criticized or commented about at all in starting beginners off with basic fundamentals in either case. It would seem to me though, to be less of an issue of focus if all they're going to do is fire between 7 and 50 rounds downrange to get their permit (depending which state they're taking a required performance test in, and I don't know Iowa's requirements, if any, for performance tests, thus simply giving a range that I've seen bandied about for a long time). If you're conducting actual defensive pistol courses where several hundred to maybe even 1,000 or more rounds might be fired during them, then fundamentals are imperative to be part of what's drilled into a beginner.

    I am just curious what kinds of classes/courses you're actually instructing on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Bob View Post
    Repetition is the key here, and as the instructor it's your duty to politely and continually correct any poor habits/form.

    Using the "duck!" catch phrase or some other action word will help remind the student what they need to be doing and the fact you are still paying attention to what they are doing.

    Keep at it, your persistence will pay off.
    This - repetition is the key.

    "It's easier to avoid conflict than it is to survive it" - SGB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly Adam View Post
    I see this one all the time when teaching stance, you coach the student to lean forward or to bend at the hips, loosen up the knees. What do they do-- they lock their knees and lean way way. Over and over!

    How would you proceed?
    Don't lean at all. That's stupid.

    The student should do whatever helps them hit the target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
    He who is standing in a "stance" during a real life self defense situation is being a very good stationary target for the bad guy.
    Exactly!

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