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    Quote Originally Posted by R&M View Post
    From what I read there is only a one day a month 6 hour window at of all places "Department of Social Services" for me to be fingerprinted in Greenwood County. Phone will be lit up Tuesday. Thanks for the information. I wonder if L1 is connected with the same folks a few years ago who "purchased" our drivers license photos?
    You could go to Greenville of course we shouldn't have to go anywhere!

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    This whole thing stinks! We need to contact our state legislators and have them explain why this is happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony_I_Am View Post
    But $10 more is such a small amount to pay to excersice your right!
    So does that mean, the more I pay the more rights that I already have I can exercise?

    I know everyone is hurting due to the economy, most people cut back, I guess the government of "We the People" just finds new ways to tax instead or off set taxes.

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    The S.C. firearms forum just had a pretty lengthy discussion on this before it got into a debate on who called who stupid first....

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    several issue with this new method are legally questionable and I suspect that somethings are going to change some more before long...

    As I see it the $10 is the processing fee for L1... which could be kind of like the fee an instructor charges for a class... separate from the actual $50 SLED collects. Not sure if you will still be mailing or interneting in a renewal or not....

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    Just who are you calling stupid? Damnest thing I have ever seen on a supposedly gun related "Listserve" (Notice the quotation marks) I have ever seen. You would think the maturity level there would be higher considering the subject.

    That is where I found out about it and there was more information posted which I think was sent to instructors. From what I can tell L-1 will be handling the entire process and you must go to one of their 13 locations to be electronically fingerprinted whether it is for a new or renewal application. SLED makes no exceptions for anyone else to do the fingerprinting and it is required even for renewals. L-1 gets to keep the $10 extra fee for doing the fingerprinting therefore it is an increase in the fee the SLED is charging. When I took my CWP class the instructor had one of the local deputy sheriffs come in and do the fingerprinting. This was included in the cost of the class which was no higher than any of the others around. I think it was $75 which at the end of the class the instructor gave us a brown envelope with everthing in it but the check to SLED and a stamp on it. All I had to do was enclose the check, add some stamps and mail it off.

    Now SLED is requiring everyone to drive to one of their chosen (shall we conclude kickback) 13 sites to get the things done that were the responsibility of the instructor or the applicant. Notice that few if any of the locations are open on Saturday so that means taking off work for most people.

    SLED has mandated a $10 fee so it is not like an instructor fee who was free to set his own rates or even waive them if he wanted to. This is in direct violation of two different state laws so all I can see is SLED once again is showing that they don't care about what the Legislature says they are going to do it as they want to and the SC code of laws be damned.

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    I travel the entire state every week or so, so the 5 day a week locations are not a problem for me. The problem I have is what happened to the law as passed? What about my wife? I sure as hell don't want her going to the "Department of Social Services" taking time off work ect ect. How about the other folks who are pretty much local bound? What happened to "any local law enforcement agency? They are good enough for all other fingerprinting needs the state requires. Why us? I've made my calls today, one was a waste of time but I made it anyway, the other was preaching to the choir. Anyway , everybody call and write.
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    Over on the Yahoo SC firearms forum it was suggested we call the governors office and speak our mind....

    Ms. Cooper.

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    Who to write - what to say

    So who do we write, what do we say, and what is/are the addresses....

    I don't want to sound toooo PARANOID but I want to make sure we have a leg to stand on, legality wise, what laws is SLED breaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melloyello View Post
    So who do we write, what do we say, and what is/are the addresses....

    I don't want to sound toooo PARANOID but I want to make sure we have a leg to stand on, legality wise, what laws is SLED breaking.

    S.C. Code of Laws Title 23 Chapter 31 Firearms - www.scstatehouse.gov-LPITS

    Section 23-31-215 describes how SLED is to issue permits. I would think that that section would have to be changed for them to contract it out. But with McMaster who knows.
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    Looks like the changes may not happen!

    Word that I received is the Governors office put a stop to all this L1 crap. SLED overstepped their authority by not getting approval to change fees and fingerprinting that are prescribed by law. I'm just waiting on confirmation!


    CONFIRMED!
    USAF Retired, CATM, SC CWP, NH NR CWP, NRA Benefactor
    To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them... -- Richard Henry Lee, 1787

  11. More data collection plus lack of control of the data= BAD MISTAKES.

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