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    Can anyone give me some insight on how to obtain a CCW in SC as a non-resident? I know it says you can have one if you own land, so does that mean I can buy a scrap acre in the middle of nowhere and thus be technically considered a "land-owner"? Does anyone have any tips on what counties would be the best, easiest, and fastest to apply in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by henny8 View Post
    Can anyone give me some insight on how to obtain a CCW in SC as a non-resident? I know it says you can have one if you own land, so does that mean I can buy a scrap acre in the middle of nowhere and thus be technically considered a "land-owner"? Does anyone have any tips on what counties would be the best, easiest, and fastest to apply in?
    ARTICLE 4.

    CONCEALED WEAPON PERMITS

    SECTION 23-31-205. Name.
    This article may be cited as the "Law Abiding Citizens Self-Defense Act of 1996".
    SECTION 23-31-210. Definitions.
    As used in this article:
    (1) "Resident" means an individual who is present in South Carolina with the intention of making a permanent home in South Carolina or military personnel on permanent change of station orders.
    (2) "Qualified nonresident" means an individual who owns real property in South Carolina, but who resides in another state.
    (3) "Picture identification" means:
    (a) a valid South Carolina driver's license, or if the applicant is a qualified nonresident, a valid driver's license issued by the state in which the applicant resides; or
    (b) an official photographic identification card issued by the Department of Revenue, a federal or state law enforcement agency, an agency of the United States Department of Defense, or the United States Department of State.
    (4) "Proof of residence" means a person's current address on the original or certified copy of:
    (a) a valid South Carolina driver's license;
    (b) an official identification card issued by the Department of Revenue, a federal or state law enforcement agency, an agency of the United States Department of Defense, or the United States Department of State;
    (c) a voter registration card; or
    (d) another document that SLED may determine that fulfills this requirement.
    (5) "Proof of training" means an original document or certified copy of the document supplied by an applicant that certifies that he is either:
    (a) a person who, within three years before filing an application, has successfully completed a basic or advanced handgun education course offered by a state, county, or municipal law enforcement agency or a nationally recognized organization that promotes gun safety. This education course must be a minimum of eight hours and must include, but is not limited to:
    (i) information on the statutory and case law of this State relating to handguns and to the use of deadly force;
    (ii) information on handgun use and safety;
    (iii) information on the proper storage practice for handguns with an emphasis on storage practices that reduces the possibility of accidental injury to a child; and
    (iv) the actual firing of the handgun in the presence of the instructor;
    (b) an instructor certified by the National Rifle Association or another SLED-approved competent national organization that promotes the safe use of handguns;
    (c) a person who can demonstrate to the Director of SLED or his designee that he has a proficiency in both the use of handguns and state laws pertaining to handguns;
    (d) an active duty police handgun instructor;
    (e) a person who has a SLED-certified or approved competitive handgun shooting classification; or
    (f) a member of the active or reserve military, or a member of the National Guard who has had handgun training in the previous three years.
    SLED shall promulgate regulations containing general guidelines for courses and qualifications for instructors which would satisfy the requirements of this item. For purposes of subitems (a) and (b), "proof of training" is not satisfied unless the organization and its instructors meet or exceed the guidelines and qualifications contained in the regulations promulgated by SLED pursuant to this item.
    (6) "Concealable weapon" means a firearm having a length of less than twelve inches measured along its greatest dimension that must be carried in a manner that is hidden from public view in normal wear of clothing except when needed for self-defense, defense of others, and the protection of real or personal property. (7) "Proof of ownership of real property" means a certified current document from the county assessor of the county in which the property is located verifying ownership of the real property. SLED must determine the appropriate document that fulfills this requirement.

    S.C. Code of Laws Title 23 Chapter 31 Firearms - www.scstatehouse.gov-LPITS

    It doesn't really matter what county you do this in since the South Carolina CWP is a statewide shall issue permit. Everyone applies to SLED, not their county. As for where to find cheap land, well, cheap is a relative thing. But definitely stay away from the coast and bigger cities.
    "I believe we should achieve a national standard on gun control, and that standard should be none whatsoever."

  4. thanks i appreciate the reply, wish me luck ;)

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    Basically, if you pay property tax, you are a qualified non-resident. Do I think this set up is right, not realy. But it is what it is at the current time. I would like to see any legal U.S. resident be able to apply and receive a SC permit so long as they comply with all the other requirements. Where someone lives should not make a difference, IMHO.

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    Rather than buying a scrap acre of land which is legal and meets the requirement go down to the beach and buy one of the condos at bargain prices in this economy. Rent it out for enough to make the payments and possibly a little extra. That is except for two week a year when you use it. From the prices now it will probably appreciate if we ever get BHO out of office then you have the best of everything. :)

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    Just got my curiosity going.
    Is SC the only state with this provision?
    Live in Peoples Republic of Illinois, last holdout against CCW, but have land in Missouri.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vn6869 View Post
    Just got my curiosity going.
    Is SC the only state with this provision?
    Live in Peoples Republic of Illinois, last holdout against CCW, but have land in Missouri.
    As far as I know, yes. However some states do require the applicant to apear in person. This can make it difficult to get a permit for that one time vacation or the like.

  9. Would "(2) "Qualified nonresident" means an individual who owns real property in South Carolina, but who resides in another state. " include a long-term lease of any real-estate interest?

    Suppose I sign a lease on a parcel of SC real estate. Under the terms of the lease - say 4 years - I undertake to pay the real-estate tax plus $1.00 per year. I pay the real-estate tax and get a receipt. Does that count?

    There are also partial real-estate interests. E.g., I might buy the air-rights over a parcel; or, mineral rights under a parcel. Would these count?

    Thanks
    MarkPA

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkPA View Post
    Would "(2) "Qualified nonresident" means an individual who owns real property in South Carolina, but who resides in another state. " include a long-term lease of any real-estate interest?

    Suppose I sign a lease on a parcel of SC real estate. Under the terms of the lease - say 4 years - I undertake to pay the real-estate tax plus $1.00 per year. I pay the real-estate tax and get a receipt. Does that count?

    There are also partial real-estate interests. E.g., I might buy the air-rights over a parcel; or, mineral rights under a parcel. Would these count?

    Thanks
    MarkPA
    I'm not a lawyer nor have I ever played one on TV, but I don't think long term leasing is the same as owning. I'd be interested to hear someone explain how it would be considered the same thing. Anyone?
    "I believe we should achieve a national standard on gun control, and that standard should be none whatsoever."

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    Hmmm...I am wondering -- does one owning a time share qualify as "ownership"? You pay property tax and association fees on it. The payments you make to the company you are buying the time share from is reported on your credit reports as a "mortgage".

    I don't encourage anyone to break the law or look for ways to bend or get around the laws, since the ramifications can be significant. But it is a question for a lawyer specializing in firearms laws.

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