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    Big problem with reciprocity

    It appears that SC does not have a way to verify CWP's 24/7. Now why they need to be verified and what is involved I don't know. However because of that VA has dropped SC as a state that they recognize. This came up when SC offere reciprocity to VA and they started checking the requirements. This prompted VA to check several other states and VA also dropped them. On top of that NV has dropped VA.

    This is bad as our CWP's are no longer recognized in VA and it appears that reciprocity with NV is out. This is not due to the new law but rather other states requirements. Hang on for a rough ride.

    Interesting thing is that even if the original law of recognition of all states had passed this would not done any good and have permitted carry in VA.
    Last edited by FN1910; 09-07-2008 at 07:43 AM.

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    SC is lucky to have power 24/7.really behind the 8 ball.

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    Do you have a link? This is the first I've heard about his.
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    Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL)

    Go down to part 3. SC has been romoved from the list on VA website.

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    Thanks for the link. This is the only explanation I've seen that explains what happened. They also dumpped TN from their list.

    SOUTH CAROLINA RESIDENTS - BE SURE TO READ THIS ENTIRE SECTION!
    ****
    Tom Lambert, with the Virginia State Police, just sent me an update on
    Virginia's reciprocity status with several other states. I want to
    thank Tom for his professionalism and his diligent work to setup
    reciprocity with as many states as possible. The rant that follows
    has nothing to do with Tom - I want to make that perfectly clear.
    As I looked at Tom's latest update, one glaring problem jumps out at
    me: the Virginia State Police's demand that all reciprocal states
    have a system in place to verify the validity of their permits 24
    hours a day, 7 days a week, is crushing a lot of reciprocal agreements!
    The net effect is that YOU are left defenseless in many states as you
    travel solely because if this unnecessary requirement by YOUR state
    police. And many guests to this state are similarly and unnecessarily
    disarmed.
    That is unacceptable and we need to do whatever we can to get that
    24/7 requirement struck out of Virginia law.
    Let me show you just how inane and how serious a problem this is.
    ***Virginia has JUST stopped recognizing South Carolina concealed
    handgun permits. ***
    Why?
    Because apparently South Carolina does not have the 24/7 validation
    capability. For years now Virginia thought they did and has been
    recognizing their permits! Virginia just now discovered the problem
    while reviewing information with South Carolina!
    So for years not one single Virginia police officer has needed to
    verify a South Carolina CHP. If they had, this problem would have
    surfaced a long time ago.
    That confirms what VCDL has been saying all along: WHILE THE STATE
    POLICE DEMAND 24/7 VALIDATION, VCDL DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY EVER OR
    **EXTREMELY RARELY** USE IT!!
    Here is what the State Police's 24/7 validation demand has caused gun
    owners across the country:
    1. After many, many years, South Carolina has just offered Virginia
    reciprocity, BUT because we have just stopped recognizing South
    Carolina over the 24/7 issue, the deal is DEAD! :-(
    2. Virginia will not recognize Idaho, even though they have honored
    our permits for years, because Idaho does not have 24/7 validation.
    3. Virginia will not recognize Indiana, even though they have honored
    our permits for years, because Indiana does not have 24/7 validation.
    4. Virginia will not setup reciprocity with Maine because Maine
    doesn't have 24/7 validation.
    5. Virginia will not setup reciprocity with Alabama because Alabama
    doesn't have 24/7 validation.
    6. Virginia will not setup reciprocity with New Hampshire because New
    Hampshire doesn't have 24/7 validation.
    7. In a "what's good for the goose is good for the gander", Nevada
    has turned Virginia down because our damned 24/7 validation isn't
    automated!
    The State Police and the General Assembly need to understand this is
    not a game. Lives are at stake and we need to get rid of the road
    blocks that are fragmenting the 2nd Amendment and our right to defend
    ourselves and our families.
    This whole issue has just been bumped up in VCDL's legislative agenda
    for next year.
    We finally get offered reciprocity by South Carolina and the Virginia
    State Police force us to fumble the ball. I'm livid!
    If you are from South Carolina, you are going to have to use either a
    Florida, Utah, or a Virginia non-resident permit to carry concealed
    here, I'm embarrassed to say.
    USAF Retired, CATM, SC CWP, NH NR CWP, NRA Benefactor
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    Looks like this missunderstanding is beeing resolved.
    SC Grass roots (Bill) has been in touch with and recieved confirmation that they are clearing this issue up.
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    New guy needs to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 340mopar View Post
    Looks like this missunderstanding is beeing resolved.
    SC Grass roots (Bill) has been in touch with and recieved confirmation that they are clearing this issue up.
    That's the problem I have with Grassroots. They never update their site. Something like this should be on the main page. It hasn't been updated in months! Plus they did away with the forum. At least there you could ask questions and hope for an answer.
    USAF Retired, CATM, SC CWP, NH NR CWP, NRA Benefactor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hat View Post
    That's the problem I have with Grassroots. They never update their site. Something like this should be on the main page. It hasn't been updated in months! Plus they did away with the forum. At least there you could ask questions and hope for an answer.
    You think SC Grassroots is out of date, look at NC's. Hell, they are still talking about a dinner in the 90's and a machine gun shoot not too long after that. I went throug their site and sent a list with links to update much of what was there and nothing was done. Grassroots is a good idea but needs to be kept current. I know most are volunteer sites or organizations but accept what help is available and not be so demanding or picky of the help offered.:suicide2:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hat View Post
    That's the problem I have with Grassroots. They never update their site. Something like this should be on the main page. It hasn't been updated in months! Plus they did away with the forum. At least there you could ask questions and hope for an answer.

    I do agree with that...they could use a better update progam ... but at least they are fighting for us.
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