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  1. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by FN1910 View Post
    You may be correct. I certainly hope so. There were some eyes opened during debate but we still have a few idiots in the legislature.
    The bill passed the house 110 to 2 (2009-2010 Bill 593: Weapons - South Carolina Legislature Online) not sure why they'd be more worried about carrying around alcohol vs. kids. If found an interesting verse while reading my bible the other night:

    I Timothy 1:8 says "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, 9realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious..."

    I wish our legislators would realize that amending the law is not going to thwart the actions of the "lawless" but only the lawful, as stated in the verse above. Oh well. Just thought it was a cool application.

    Sanford has until tonight to sign the bill or it automatically becomes law.
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  3. #52
    This bill has been signed by the Gov. and is now law. If you have a CWP you can have your weapon on the school grounds as long as you keep it in the glove box, console or in a case in the luggage compartment.

    This not only covers handguns but rifles and shotguns. For instance you can drop off your children with your shotgun in the rear of your truck as long as it is in a case. This is a good excuse for hunters that never really plan to carry a pistol to get their CWP.

    It does cover some other weapons but it is a step in the right direction, although a small step.

    2009-2010 Bill 593: Weapons - South Carolina Legislature Online

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    Awesome, thanks for keeping us fully informed!
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    Thanks FN. I checked the scstatehouse.gov site early this morning, but it had not been updated.

    I figured he would let it expire, becoming law, rather than signing it. Good for him.... er, good for us.
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    It is my understanding that in SC, anyone without a CWP can still carry a loaded handgun in the glovebox or console of their vehicle. Will this bill change anything for them? Or for that matter, is the current law not allowing guns on school property only applicable to CWP holders?
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  7. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    It is my understanding that in SC, anyone without a CWP can still carry a loaded handgun in the glovebox or console of their vehicle. Will this bill change anything for them? Or for that matter, is the current law not allowing guns on school property only applicable to CWP holders?
    Anyone in SC who is over 18 and not a "criminal" for lack of a beter term can carry a handgun in their glove box, or console. You do not need a CWP to do that.

    Previously it was illegal for anyone to carry a gun on school grounds. For instance you could not pick up your child from school if you went on school property with a gun in your car no matter if you has a CWP or not. This applied to all schools and colleges.

    What this law does is allow a CWP holder to pick up their child without having to leave their gun at home or where ever. It also allows someone such as me to now legally carry my gun with me to and from work (I work at a college) and leave it in my car during the day. Previously I could not have it in the parking lot so I had to leave it at home. I had no place to store it while at work.

    It covers all guns so hunters would be included as long as they have a CWP.

    The new law only applies to CWP holders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN1910 View Post
    This bill has been signed by the Gov. and is now law. If you have a CWP you can have your weapon on the school grounds as long as you keep it in the glove box, console or in a case in the luggage compartment.

    This not only covers handguns but rifles and shotguns. For instance you can drop off your children with your shotgun in the rear of your truck as long as it is in a case. This is a good excuse for hunters that never really plan to carry a pistol to get their CWP.

    It does cover some other weapons but it is a step in the right direction, although a small step.

    2009-2010 Bill 593: Weapons - South Carolina Legislature Online
    I got my email today on this. I agree it's a small step and I'm furious that our reps didn't push the restaurant carry that was on this bill originally. All permit holders in SC should start a telephone campaign and burn up their lines demanding a bill for restaurant carry be introduced and passed. We should also call and tell them how disgusted we are that it was taken out of this bill. ok...so much for venting!
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  9. I'm assuming because this amendment calls Article 4, Chapter 31, Title 23 (Concealed Weapons) which includes section 23-31-235 (sign requirements) that any school or private college (I have one in mind that I visit quite often) would be required to post a legal "NO CONCEALABLE WEAPONS ALLOWED" sign at all their entrances if they wish to continue banning all firearms? And that if said private college had a sign simply stating "firearms prohibited on campus" that would not legally stop a CWP holder from coming on-campus with a gun in the glove box?

  10. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by tmountjr View Post
    I'm assuming because this amendment calls Article 4, Chapter 31, Title 23 (Concealed Weapons) which includes section 23-31-235 (sign requirements) that any school or private college (I have one in mind that I visit quite often) would be required to post a legal "NO CONCEALABLE WEAPONS ALLOWED" sign at all their entrances if they wish to continue banning all firearms? And that if said private college had a sign simply stating "firearms prohibited on campus" that would not legally stop a CWP holder from coming on-campus with a gun in the glove box?
    Good question but to prohibit you from bringing it on the property they must 1) be a private school or college and 2) meet the sign requirements as listed in SECTION 23-31-235. Sign requirements.


    SECTION 23-31-220. Right to allow or permit concealed weapons upon premises; signs.

    This covers only private property and public equipment. A state agency can prohibit you from carrying while you are driving a state vehicle but not from state property with signs.

  11. #60
    Sooo I go to USC Sumter and it is not a private college but they do have a no concealed weapons sign posted before you drive into the parking lot....I am not sure that it meets the legal sign requirements...But even if it does will i still be able to carry onto the school property....

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