Another one to weigh in on


ecocks

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National Parks Traveler, a special interest group regarding the National Parks, reports on the stand taken against the Park gun regulations change by the Association of National Park Rangers.

http://www.nationalparkstraveler.co...al-park-rangers-opposes-change-gun-laws-parks

Also, this one is from the Rapid City Journal

http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/art...3a306246506.txt?show_comments=true#commentdiv

Let them know what you think. I did:

Why? Because gun control simply doesn't work - look at Trolley Square, Westroad Mall, Va Tech, crime statistics, murder rates and dozens of other examples. Now that it has been defeated in SD, contemplate the NIU situation. The man killed himself before police got there. The victims had no chance. Again the law disarmed the victims. As someone else said above, ask yourself why no one ever tries these things at a police station or military base.

Yeah, all pro-second amendment people (Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, Richard Henry Lee, Mason, Adams, etc.) are stupid illiterate rednecks. Such a shame that the rest of the citizens have those pesky rights isn't it? Good thing we have people like some of those above to think for us, isn't it? But wouldn't it have been a lot easier if they had just put one person in charge, told them to raise their children right and let them takeover when the parent got older? Wait, that was what we had before 1776! How could we have been so stupid?!?

The truth is that legally licensed/permitted carriers, who have already been checked by the appropriate law enforcement authorities are far less likely to commit felony weapons crimes than others. As for the Texas statistics, that is old news from the first few years the concealed carry laws went into effect. For the last 10+ years the data is overwhelming that gun-free zones and states attempting to restrict guns have significantly higher crime rates than those who don't. As for voting for efficient legislators who don't waste time, I agree, they should have left the 2A alone in the first place given its proven lack of influence on safety and crime.

If you truly believe this right should not exist, then quit playing your stupid games and actually try to implement the process used to secure the freedom of slaves, experiment with prohibiting alcohol, grant women the vote, address discrimination and so on. Why don't you? Because you know it won't pass through the ratification process. The Constitution is clear, but the anti-gun groups feel this is too important to trust to the process set out by the founders of our country and keep trying to use legislative action to restrict constitutional rights always citing the same refrain, we need action now and that people are too supid to understand that this is for their own good. This has been going on for 20 years! How many times could they have tried to do a constituional amendment since the first blathering began about this issue?
 

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ecocks

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Think you have to

register on the site. I did but had not reveived my activition email before bedtime.
 

hpj3

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"If you truly believe this right should not exist, then quit playing your stupid games and actually try to implement the process used to secure the freedom of slaves, experiment with prohibiting alcohol, grant women the vote, address discrimination and so on. Why don't you? Because you know it won't pass through the ratification process." <snipped>

My reply to this train of thought on the other thread...

I'd like to take a slightly different slant here... it's been my contention for more years than I care to think about that the BoR is not subject to the amendment proccess that applies to the rest of COTUS. In as much as the rights enumerated therein are described as inherent, existing before the document, they are therefore not amendable/recindable. I vehemently believe that this is a position we must stress at every opportunity... to do otherwise is to invite the possibility of a "recind..." movement by the anti-s, especially if, come November, we lose what little control we now have...

Howard
 

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