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RDW

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I'm sure that the Governor of Oklahoma will be sad to hear that he lost your vote.....LOL
 

OldOwl

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I'm sure that the Governor of Oklahoma will be sad to hear that he lost your vote.....LOL

He'll certainly miss my money, along with that of tens of thousands of others who would normally travel there just as much. I can just as easily go hunting in Texas and leave my cash there.
 

stumpjumper101

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in my nearly 18 years working on an ambulance i have never been pulled over and harrassed by any law enforcement. Nor have i ever heard of any ambulance being pulled over while transporting a patient. By doing so these officers are delaying the treatment and transport of this patient to a medical facilty and are opening themselves up to some serious liability issues. I would certainly like to know the whole story for which they decided they needed to attempt to arrest the driver of the ambulance. If for some reason they had a warrant for his arrest they know exactly where he is headed just apprehend him there after the transport is completed! Here in VA there are laws that prohibit impeding EMS personel in the performance of their duties im pretty sure Oklahoma has something simular on their books as well. I also wonder what they were planning on doing to get that ambulance to the hospital after they arrested him, let it sit on the side of the road until someone from the rescue squad could respond out to drive it the rest of the way. or was one of them gonna drive it. POOR JuDGEMENT on the officers part if you ask me.
 
Link is broken, StumpJumper.

From what I could tell from the conversation, the OHP officer is pissed because the ambulance was driving too fast without lights or siren (his mention of "running hot" seemed to imply that the EMT was not). However, the instant that he discovered there was a patient en route to the hospital, he should have backed off and provided an escort.

EM personnel are given fairly wide latitude concerning sirens, depending on the state. If you are running a patient who is becoming distressed at the sound, it may be turned off, with a corresponding reduction of speed. However, that reduction still puts them over the legal speed limit for non-emergency driving.

All in all, this was a terrible judgment call on the trooper's part, and really makes me question his fitness for duty.
 

Lonewolf2810

Glock 27 Fan
Just saw it on the Today Show and they said the Trooper has been put on administrative leave pending investigation, go figure.
 

BBJ

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Several years ago, there was a Hotzola (sp?) ambulance that would travel down the New York State Thruway with lights and sirens on at the same time every morning. Finally a NY State Trooper pulled them over and did an investigation. There was no patient in the back. There were 5 Hasidics in the back who worked in the diamond district and they were going to work like that to beat the traffic!

It's hard to know the real story when we only get to see 2-3 minutes of video!
 

gdcleanfun

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Several years ago, there was a Hotzola (sp?) ambulance that would travel down the New York State Thruway with lights and sirens on at the same time every morning. Finally a NY State Trooper pulled them over and did an investigation. There was no patient in the back. There were 5 Hasidics in the back who worked in the diamond district and they were going to work like that to beat the traffic!

It's hard to know the real story when we only get to see 2-3 minutes of video!
And our tax dollars were paying for it! Talk about an abuse of the system!
 

The Dove

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Thank You Old Owl for not coming to Oklahoma! We won't miss you or your money, but thanks anyway.

The Dove
 

commissaire02

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Hopefully the patient did not die. If he/she did, the trooper should be charged with involuntary manslaughter. At an absolute minimum he should be fired, forfeit any and all benefits, and his peace officer certification should be permanently revoked without possibility of reinstatement.
 

kelcarry

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Since this thread is talking about "bad LEO's" let me share my story. About 20 years ago my son, when my wife and I were not home, decided to throw a party. Invited among others was a police officer friend of my sons from a neighboring town, who always had a certain aggressive nature. With alcohol being served, the police officer, who was drunk, began to make a fool of himself and my son, along with others, had him leave the house--whether there was any pushing a shoving--probably was--but the point was that the police officer did not leave on his own and then proceeded to go out to his car and come back to the house with his service gun. My son, scared to death, called our local police, who, when they arrived, sided with the police officer in lieu of my son and his friends. I eventually gave the Chief a piece of my mind and did not appreciate this blue wall response--it was my house and my son's house and the prersentation of a weapon goes far beyond police procedure. The payoff to this story is the fact that several months ago this police officer (granted about 20 years have passed since that incident) has been named the Chief of Police of this neighboring town, his advancement thru the ranks fueled by an intense attention to his policing duties including swat. Personally, I never forgot what this police officer did and maybe maturity and time has changed things but I cannot forget that like leopards, you cannot lose your spots if t hey are part of your psyche and when you have a gun and a badge, it gets scary.
 

Know1

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@kelcarry stories like that boil my blood almost as much as the administration. All the time police officers are even caught on tape, like in Chicago when a police officer beat a female bartender on video and was never charged. The court always takes their side.
 

tattedupboy

Thank God I'm alive!
Several years ago, there was a Hotzola (sp?) ambulance that would travel down the New York State Thruway with lights and sirens on at the same time every morning. Finally a NY State Trooper pulled them over and did an investigation. There was no patient in the back. There were 5 Hasidics in the back who worked in the diamond district and they were going to work like that to beat the traffic!

It's hard to know the real story when we only get to see 2-3 minutes of video!
2-3 minutes that are pretty convincing, by the way. Just from this 2-3 minutes, as well as news reports, we know that the EMTs were transporting a patient. What more do you need to conclude that the trooper was clearly out of line?
 
One of the junior reporters at Fox did a follow up on this story "because no one else was covering it" and offered a few more details.

That OHP trooper was suspended, but the OHP "was still looking into the matter" = nothing happening there. The reporter DID discover the same trooper was a Chief of police in some other podunk town prior, and was relieved of duty for unprofessional conduct. The background investigators for OHP either determined his conduct wasn't too severe, or they're liable. The video attack of this maniac on an ambulance driver has me leaning toward the latter.

The old lady in the back of the bone box did not die. She is consulting legal counsel however, according to the reporter. The old lady and her elderly sister want the cop fired. (Can't say I blame 'em.)

The bone box driver has his own share of blemishes on his record, but won't lose his job and didn't share if he'd be pursuing legal recourse against the cop - who is very obviously a liability to his agency.

Of all the dumb stuff to get in trouble for as a cop, that one there is high on the dumb@$$ list. IMHO.
 

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