California Tries To Outguess SCOTUS


sig229

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Tried to go to link but the only way was to romove the / on. Then I couldn't find the story.... It doesn't suprise me though, area known as "left coast".
 
Tried to go to link but the only way was to romove the / on. Then I couldn't find the story.... It doesn't suprise me though, area known as "left coast".

That's odd, I tried the link again without any problems. The story is in the Mercury - News. Here's the body of it:

Bill would allow locals to ban handguns
By Josh Richman
STAFF WRITER

Article Launched: 04/07/2008 05:38:11 PM PDT


An East Bay lawmaker's bill to clear the way for local handgun bans has a committee hearing Tuesday (April 8), delving into issues now pending before the state's and nation's highest courts.
Assemblywoman Loni Hancock, D-Berkeley, authored AB 2566 in reaction to a state Court of Appeal ruling in January which upheld the voiding of San Francisco's Measure H of 2005, approved by voters to bar city residents from owning handguns or from making or selling firearms or ammunition in the city.

The California Supreme Court is mulling whether to review this ruling, which found state law leaves no room for cities and counties to ban handgun ownership; Hancock's bill, to be heard Tuesday by the Assembly Public Safety Committee, seeks to create that room by removing the state pre-emption entirely.

Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban is now the subject of the biggest gun-rights case heard by the U.S. Supreme Court in almost 70 years. The high court will rule by late June on whether the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to gun ownership, rather than just a collective right to guns for the common defense as part of a state militia.

But Richmond community activist Andres Soto said the Legal Community Against Violence - a San Francisco nonprofit which helped draft the bill - believes that case won't directly affect this bill because of Washington's status as a federal district, distinct from the states. Soto said he sees this as "a domestic disarmament" crucial to the


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East Bay's gun-plagued communities.
Hancock said the bill is inspired by victims such as an Oakland boy hit by a stray bullet and paralyzed while at his piano lesson and a Richmond woman shot and killed in her doorway by a gang member. Handguns are "weapons of mass destruction in some of our inner cities," she said, and local governments need this tool at their disposal to quell the violence.

"Many times when enough individual local governments take an action, state action follows and federal action follows," Hancock said. "It's the people on the ground experiencing the problem every day that tend to be innovative and want to push the envelope, and I've seen the communities I represent staggering under the burden of gun violence for too long."

Gun-rights activists disagree.

"Aside from the fact that obviously disarming civilians and depriving them of the most effective tool there is for self-defense or defending their families, it's not a good policy decision," said California Rifle and Pistol Association attorney Chuck Michel of Long Beach.

"The law is confusing enough as it is right now," he said, with the California Law Revision Commission already studying the need to simplify and reorganize Penal Code sections dealing with deadly weapons; that panel's report is due by July 2009.

"The reason they passed pre-emption in the first place was so people wouldn't have to worry about violating a different set of laws every time they drove across a city line," Michel said. "Uniformity is very important."

Soto said that's "a red herring," as this bill wouldn't affect existing state laws on handgun transportation but rather would let cities bar residents from owning handguns.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's office said Monday he has not yet taken a position on this bill.

Reach Josh Richman at jrichman@bayareanewsgroup.com or 510-208-6428. Read the Political Blotter at http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics
 

LiquidG

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I dont see how things like this can be passed in any state let alone a state like california with the millions and millions of people that live there! Why dont these people get together and out these ignorant politicians? you can't do anything in california, gotta have special vehicles, can't own any cool guns, etc...
 

DonL

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I dont see how things like this can be passed in any state let alone a state like california with the millions and millions of people that live there! Why dont these people get together and out these ignorant politicians? you can't do anything in california, gotta have special vehicles, can't own any cool guns, etc...
Because the smart ones leave and move to Arizona. DonL
 
I dont see how things like this can be passed in any state let alone a state like california with the millions and millions of people that live there! Why dont these people get together and out these ignorant politicians? you can't do anything in california, gotta have special vehicles, can't own any cool guns, etc...

I believe it's the "silent majority" syndrome. Most just think they can't do anything to stop it and just let it go. This happens every where.
 

underwritingtech

Watching the river flow.
I agree that there is a silent majority in CA that is not on board with the onerous California rules on everything from gun rights to taxation t o environmental issues. I hope that we all keep in mind what being silent cost gun owners in England and Australia.
 

toreskha

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Andres Soto said the Legal Community Against Violence
Soto and LCAV are weapons of mass hysteria.

It's funny how people so often equate "guns" with "violence". The phrase "gun violence", "guns and violence", "guns and knives" and so on are common in our society. Although there's plenty of videos available, I've never once directly witnessed an act of violence committed on a person with a gun, and I wonder how many of these "activists" have, either.

The only actual violence I've ever witnessed is on stationary targets at ranges, or in the middle of nowhere. I've been hunting, but never saw anything worth shooting. Once I ran over a big raccoon, and so I backed up...it was still alive so I euthanized it with a shotgun.

The way everyone talks about "gun violence", you'd think there's guns somewhere that just jump around and shoot people randomly. :rolleyesb:
 

The Gunny

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If the citizens of Kaulifornia, and I know that is only about half the population, are to timid or to ignorant to reign in their elected government offal's then they get the government they deserve.

Part of being a true citizen requires a certain amount of civic mindednes, a sense of duty to ones community. If they are unable or unwilling to participate in the democratic process or let their voices be heard then they will contiune to get more and more restrictions put in place. I for one will never again live in that state. It is out of control even in areas considered conservative they have knee jerk reactions to guns yet the film industry bristles with tons of guns in movies. Perhaps we need to make some laws prohibiting gun violence in the entertainment industry? No that would never fly, freedom of speech remember?LOL!
 

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