Democrats seeking supermajority in Congress


toreskha

Titles are un-American.
Ok, recently someone brought up the topic of a Democratic supermajority in Congress, and I basically said it was hogwash. That's true in light of current numbers. However, they are in fact seeking that, and they're pretty close to getting it in *this* upcoming election so I guess I was wrong. I was so focused on the presidential and some local races I didn't notice what was going on around me. Well, hit me with a frying pan and call me stupid. :agree:

Anyway...if this mixes with Obama, it will almost certainly lead to a serious attempt at a new AWB and probably a lot of other stupid stuff as well. The gun lobby will really need to take a hard line to prevent some significant erosion in civil liberties.

I'd rather live in abject poverty than be owned by the government. Socialism makes me sick.

The shifting landscape -- driven in large part by economic unease -- leaves Democrats almost certain to dramatically expand their 51-49 majority in the Senate, according to independent analysts and political strategists in both parties.

But whether Democrats can reach the 60-vote threshold depends on the outcome of races like the one in North Carolina, where Republican Sen. Elizabeth Dole is seeking a second term in a race that was never supposed to be close.
 

kwo51

New member
The country is going to change from what it was in the beginning. We will not be allowed to fight for our rights or beliefs.:nono:
 

toreskha

Titles are un-American.
hates a strong word bud
Maybe it is, but maybe it's an accurate descriptor. How would you summarize your feelings towards a group of people who are actively working to override what it means for one to exist? Think about the meaning of control in a person's life. An individual cannot be truly sovereign unless they have full authority over their own actions. A natural extension of one's self is often one's possessions, or what part of the wide world they personally have under their control.

Now if I own a bowl, or a gun, or a house, or whatever, I have it and control it. I own it myself, as much as I own myself. It is an object that I inhabit, I handle, etc. Or maybe it's a choice that I make to homeschool my children, or to invest my money (even in Marxist terms, it's transformed labor, and I should be able to own that labor) where I wish.

So here comes an outside force - a collection of other people - people who do not own these things, coming and saying that they can have partial control well. Their extension of power over those items necessarily destroys some element of my ability to control what should be *my* property, or the educational journey of my own children.

This is generally known as stealing. It is a brutal violation that cages one in and prevents full self-ownership, short of disposing of one's entire set of cares in the world. Only animals should be ruled by such oppression.

So as I and many others see it, liberals who believe this seizure of private property and these nonsense "community" values are essentially saying that we are not human beings. We are no better than dogs who fetch or sit on command. Why should I not hate someone who sincerely wishes to leave me without my humanity?

Marx and all his "redistribute the wealth" ilk sicken me. Why should I, the confirmed owner of my efforts and my labor, and one who might even exchange labor with another for both our benefit, be forcibly put to release ownership of that? If he hadn't had his head up his ass, he'd have noticed from the beginning that this made him a tremendous hypocrite. It's too bad Obama can't recognize the same thing, and stop trying to burglarize us all because his constituency is incapable of fully recognizing their own ability to live their own lives.

As a side note, I actually get along with most people, including liberals, in real life. But I do hate systems that I feel are attempting to control the way I live my life. So, I won't bite anyone or anything like that.
 
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HK4U

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Maybe it is, but maybe it's an accurate descriptor. How would you summarize your feelings towards a group of people who are actively working to override what it means for one to exist? Think about the meaning of control in a person's life. An individual cannot be truly sovereign unless they have full authority over their own actions. A natural extension of one's self is often one's possessions, or what part of the wide world they personally have under their control.

Now if I own a bowl, or a gun, or a house, or whatever, I have it and control it. I own it myself, as much as I own myself. It is an object that I inhabit, I handle, etc. Or maybe it's a choice that I make to homeschool my children, or to invest my money (even in Marxist terms, it's transformed labor, and I should be able to own that labor) where I wish.

So here comes an outside force - a collection of other people - people who do not own these things, coming and saying that they can have partial control well. Their extension of power over those items necessarily destroys some element of my ability to control what should be *my* property, or the educational journey of my own children.

This is generally known as stealing. It is a brutal violation that cages one in and prevents full self-ownership, short of disposing of one's entire set of cares in the world. Only animals should be ruled by such oppression.

So as I and many others see it, liberals who believe this seizure of private property and these nonsense "community" values are essentially saying that we are not human beings. We are no better than dogs who fetch or sit on command. Why should I not hate someone who sincerely wishes to leave me without my humanity?

Marx and all his "redistribute the wealth" ilk sicken me. Why should I, the confirmed owner of my efforts and my labor, and one who might even exchange labor with another for both our benefit, be forcibly put to release ownership of that? If he hadn't had his head up his ass, he'd have noticed from the beginning that this made him a tremendous hypocrite. It's too bad Obama can't recognize the same thing, and stop trying to burglarize us all because his constituency is incapable of fully recognizing their own ability to live their own lives.

As a side note, I actually get along with most people, including liberals, in real life. But I do hate systems that I feel are attempting to control the way I live my life. So, I won't bite anyone or anything like that.

+1. Very well put. Thanks for posting this. Something else that gets me is the Obamas and Clintons and Marxs and all other socialists/communists when talking about redistributing the wealth refer to the money of the working middle class not their own wealth. You would think that the sheeple would be able to see that but then again there are none so blind as they that will not see.
 

jwtollett21

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actually Obama wants to redistribute the wealth of the wealthy. You know the ones making a quarter of a million dollars or more a year. Like all the fat cat wall street guys, the warren buffets, the obamas, bush's, mcains. The ones who can afford to pay a little more in taxes. Us normal guys who work everyday will actually pay less under oBama. Thats what he say's so i guess we will see.
 
actually Obama wants to redistribute the wealth of the wealthy. You know the ones making a quarter of a million dollars or more a year. Like all the fat cat wall street guys, the warren buffets, the obamas, bush's, mcains. The ones who can afford to pay a little more in taxes. Us normal guys who work everyday will actually pay less under oBama. Thats what he say's so i guess we will see.

Why take from those guys and give to the others? Everyone has the opportunity to work hard and make the best of the hand they're delt. Don't know about you, but I'm not into taking handouts. I'd rather bust my tail and get by rather than take handouts from others.



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jwtollett21

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did you get your stimulus check. or what about social security or medicare. You are taking a good approach and i commend you for your hard work and willingness to take care of yourself and loved ones. I think that is great. If the whole world took your approach we wouldnt be in the mess we are in. But their is no way to avoid receiving from the government. Its just like my mother. She works at a government job. She works for the Farmers Service agency. They have government programs that give checks to all these farmers that have had losses due to the weather like drought and things like that. A good thing in my opinion. It helps them out If their crops or animals didn't have a good year. But the thing is all these democrat hating right wing straight ticket republicans are the first ones in their to get their checks and will go right out in every local, state, and national elections and vote against theirselves.
 

kwo51

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Ya I get 100,000 a year to not plant peanuts.Democrats real smart.They are also baby killers suck the kid from the womb or cut off the head. Yep real good people.:angry:
 

jwtollett21

New member
you never answered my question. Did you cash you stimulus check from your republican president? Or anyone else out there that is against socialism. I'm sure that all you will be rejecting medicare and social security brought to you buy liberals.
 

HK4U

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you never answered my question. Did you cash you stimulus check from your republican president? Or anyone else out there that is against socialism. I'm sure that all you will be rejecting medicare and social security brought to you buy liberals.
I cashed mine to get a little of the money my socialist government stole from me at the point of a gun so to speak so they could redistribute it to the bottom feeders that will not work but live off the backs of others that do. when "king of the socialists" Obama takes the throne it will get even worse.
 

MP3Mogul

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actually Obama wants to redistribute the wealth of the wealthy. You know the ones making a quarter of a million dollars or more a year. Like all the fat cat wall street guys, the warren buffets, the obamas, bush's, mcains. The ones who can afford to pay a little more in taxes. Us normal guys who work everyday will actually pay less under oBama. Thats what he say's so i guess we will see.
Let me just read what you said..

NoBama wants to redistribute the wealth of the wealthy...

Okay, so the people that worked their arses off to get where they are, and make their money... the government should take their money and give it to the people that were lazy and didn't work hard...

BULCHIT.................... Komunist idealistic!

Here's an interesting fact for you...

The boston tea party occurred because americans did not like the .5 percent tax rate they were paying...

We are now paying 41.0 percent!

Is it time for "another" boston tea party?
 

toreskha

Titles are un-American.
did you get your stimulus check.
I got my money back that I had begrudgingly paid to the IRS earlier in the form of withholdings. If someone steals $1000 from you, and gives $100 back and calls it a stimulus check, is it a handout? No, it's just an incomplete return of what's yours to begin with. Anyone who thinks this is a great gift from Uncle Sam is delusional.

But their is no way to avoid receiving from the government. Its just like my mother. She works at a government job. She works for the Farmers Service agency. They have government programs that give checks to all these farmers that have had losses due to the weather like drought and things like that. A good thing in my opinion. It helps them out If their crops or animals didn't have a good year. But the thing is all these democrat hating right wing straight ticket republicans are the first ones in their to get their checks and will go right out in every local, state, and national elections and vote against theirselves.
It's amazing how easily people will sell their dignity for the sake of trinkets. You could probably get more for it on eBay.

Lots of people in here probably remember Lyndon Johnson. If you don't, you should do some research. He fancied himself a regular Huey Long, a man of the people. He really played himself up as some sort of political Messiah (think Obama) who was going to save us all. He craved approval and no matter how big his electoral majority, wanted more because he really thought he was the cat's meow. He got a huge thrill out of people considering him to be their savior from poverty.

At the same time, he was sinking us deeper into Vietnam, and deceived the American public and every single member of the House and 98 Senators into falling for the Tonkin Resolution. He got us started on a pointless and costly escapade for no reason other than to satisfy his gigantic ego, while stringing us along with the carrot of an "end to poverty" and similar nonsense. Vietnam doesn't even have any oil! What were we fighting for, fish sauce and rice noodles?

Obama will probably be a repeat of Bush, and ultimately a huge disappointment for his party. He'll win the presidency. He'll get in, and he'll probably have a decent-sized majority in Congress. He will do a bunch of things that will have poor results, but will be whitewashed while at the same time getting us into a foreign policy mess overseas. Then we'll start all over again in eight more years.
 

tattedupboy

Thank God I'm alive!
Democrats will raise our taxes and take away our guns. Period. Not only that, but regardless of who makes it into the White House, no pro 2A justices will be confirmed by the Senate.
 

Glockster20

Clinging to God and guns
actually Obama wants to redistribute the wealth of the wealthy. You know the ones making a quarter of a million dollars or more a year. Like all the fat cat wall street guys, the warren buffets, the obamas, bush's, mcains. The ones who can afford to pay a little more in taxes. Us normal guys who work everyday will actually pay less under oBama. Thats what he say's so i guess we will see.
What about the people who have worked hard to earn their millions???? We are just supposed to hand it out to people that don't make as much??? I don't know about anyone else but I paid a lot of money to go to school and earn an education that would get me a good paying job. The democrats think because of my hard work and initiative that I now earn too much money????? Complete and utter hogwash!!! That is communism or marxism. They have that form of government in China. You may like it there. Oh by the way, they don't allow citizens to have firearms either.
 

kwo51

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What happens when all the rich leave or take their money off shore? Who will pay the bills? towellet you will and all the poor bastards that voted for him.:mad:
 

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