Georgetown Says It Covered Over Name of Jesus to Comply With White House Request


festus

God Bless Our Troops!!!
Georgetown University says it covered over the monogram “IHS”--symbolizing the name of Jesus Christ—because it was inscribed on a pediment on the stage where President Obama spoke at the university on Tuesday and the White House had asked Georgetown to cover up all signs and symbols there.

As of Wednesday afternoon, the “IHS” monogram that had previously adorned the stage at Georgetown’s Gaston Hall was still covered up--when the pediment where it had appeared was photographed by CNSNews.com.

President Obama is greeted by Georgetown University President John J. DeGioia as he arrives to deliver remarks on the economy, April 14, 2009, at Georgetown University. Georgetown had covered the symbol "IHS" on the pediment above and behind the two men. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert) “In coordinating the logistical arrangements for yesterday’s event, Georgetown honored the White House staff’s request to cover all of the Georgetown University signage and symbols behind Gaston Hall stage,” Julie Green Bataille, associate vice president for communications at Georgetown, told CNSNews.com.

“The White House wanted a simple backdrop of flags and pipe and drape for the speech, consistent with what they’ve done for other policy speeches,” she added. “Frankly, the pipe and drape wasn’t high enough by itself to fully cover the IHS and cross above the GU seal and it seemed most respectful to have them covered so as not to be seen out of context.”

Pediment in Gaston Hall with "IHS" covered as photographed by CNSNews.com, April 15, 2009. (Photo by Penny Starr,CNSNews.com)On Wednesday, CNSNews.com inspected the pediment embedded in the wall at the back of the stage in Gaston Hall, where Obama delivered his speech. The letters “IHS” were not to be found. They appeared to be shrouded with a triangle of black-painted plywood.

Pictures of the wooden pediment prior to Obama’s speech show the letters “IHS" in gold. Many photos posted on the Internet of other events at Gaston Hall show the letters clearly.

The White House did not respond to a request from CNSNews.com to comment on the covering up of Jesus’ name at Gaston Hall.

President Obama speaking at Gaston Hall at Georgetown on April 14 with the "IHS" covered up on the pediment behind him. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert) Georgetown, which is run by the Jesuit order, is one of the most prestigious Catholic institutions of higher education in the United States.

Roman Catholics traditionally use “IHS” as an abbreviation for Jesus’ name. According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, “St. Ignatius of Loyola adopted the monogram in his seal as general of the Society of Jesus (1541) and thus became the emblem of his institute.” The Society of Jesus is the formal name for the Jesuits.

Gaston Hall stage as it looked on the afternoon of April 15 with "IHS" still shrouded. (Photo by Penny Starr, CNSNews.com)Although the monogram was covered over on the wooden pediment at the back of the Gaston Hall stage where it would have been directly above and behind President Obama as he spoke, the letters “IHS” are posted elsewhere around the hall approximately 26 times on shields representing different parts of the United States and the world.

Obama did not mention the name of Jesus during his address. However, he did mention Christ’s Sermon on the Mount.

“There is a parable at the end of the Sermon on the Mount that tells a story of two men…‘the rain descended and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house…it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock,’” Obama said.

“We cannot rebuild this economy on the same pile of sand,” he added. “We must build our house upon a rock.”

Source: CNSNEWS
 

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Tex4oc

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I'm sure he thought he might burst into flames under that banner. "The power of Christ compels you"
 

Piece Corps

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Well, now that is two schools who have caved in to Obama's secular agenda. I was surprised about Notre Dame - this is just more of the same. Do you notice that religious leaders are bowing to demands by the government to deny their own beliefs? Rick Warren, after openly supporting Prop 8 in California, denied ever doing so (even thoug he was RECORDED and FILMED doing just that.

What power the government has, to make Christians deny their own faith!
 

festus

God Bless Our Troops!!!
This is a level of arrogance never before seen...

Who is this man to cover up art work and history that for many represent what Georgetown U. was founded on?
It must have something to do with not wanting a hostile workplace environment.
Maybe he felt overwhelmed by the truth of the name of the Lord Jesus Christ?
Maybe he felt he was doing Islam a disservice by be someplace where there are the names and images of another deity and he was concerned about his standing with the other islamic nations?
Or...maybe he was just being arrogant like Rev. Jeremiah Wright taught him.
Either way it was a disservice to the institution that is Georgetown.
He cares not for the principles this country was founded on.

Next He'll probably have the religiuos reference removed from all our historic buildings in DC
 

2beararms

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Yep, thats because just like this stuff it just PROVES he's MUSLIM!

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]On November 19, He hosted a Ramadan fast-breaking dinner (an Iftar) at the White House for fifty Muslim ambassadors. The president said in his opening remarks that the United States is "made better by millions of Muslim citizens."[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]On October 11, when commenting on U.S. humanitarian aid to Afghanistan, He stated about Islam: "Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]On November 7, He hosted another Iftar at the White House "to help usher in the holy month of Ramadan."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]On October 24, He released an official presidential message on Ramadan in which he said that "people who practice the Islamic faith have made great contributions to our Nation and the world."[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]On October 28, He hosted yet another Iftar at the White House with ambassadors and Muslim leaders. During this dinner he had a Muslim Imam lead in prayer.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]On October 15, He released another official presidential message on Ramadan in which he said that "Americans who practice the Islamic faith enrich our society and help our Nation build a better future."[/FONT]

Oops sorry, that was Bush!

You can find any news story to make anyone look anyway you want.

You can hate Obama all you want, but constantly griping and whining will not change the facts and it simply makes our country look weak to the rest of the world.

It is not productive to expound tons of negative bullcrap about everything by reposting political propoganda while stockpiling ammo and supplies for when "the crap hits the fan".

Let's get it straight ... If the crap hits the fan, you will either decide to stand up, next to the next guy and defend AMERICA as and AMERICAN and rally around the flag and WHOEVER is leading the country at that time or you will find yourself being declared the enemy by those who do.

I was not and am not a Bush supporter, but when 9-11 struck, I too was prepared to stand with all other AMERICANS to defend this country as required, and I never wrote bullcrap criticizing the President's policies even if I did not agree with him or those policies.

There are those who say the United States is going to lose its position as the strongest country in the world ... I say they are wrong, but for only ONE reason ... because the people of this great county are the only ones who know how to band together and stand together to accomplish what MUST be done, when it needs to be done, under the established government and rule of law following the duly elected leader at that time, whomever it may be. THAT is the principle that is outlined in those documents that you so often refer to as important to you but trash nearly every day.

ARE YOU AMERICAN ... or are you NOT?

Our principles are simple, you have the RIGHT to say what you desire, as do I. You have the POWER to control your government through your ability to VOTE. You did not get your way in the last election... that means that MORE people, just like you, with the same RIGHTS as you ...DID. You have the power to change that at the next election, and that is the greatness of our system.

So HERE is the fact ... OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! He will likely be for a minimum of four years. YOUR recourse if that upsets you is to lobby YOUR representatives to impeach him for whatever reason you may feel is reasonable, but THAT is your only legal recourse. Racial innuendo, religeous fervor, invoking the name of Jesus Christ ... none of that is going to change things nor is appropriate.

Personally, I thought George W. Bush was the worst president we have ever had BUT for eight years he was MY president and as an American, for that period I respected the office... THAT is what AMERICANS do!

When I stand and place my hand over my heart to swear my alliegence to the flag and the republic to which it stands ... I MEAN IT! I will defend the constitution of this country and the leader whom a majority of my fellow citizens duly elected (that is still questionable with Bush in 2000 but I accepted it anyway).

I remember as a student in 60's someone looking at me and saying...
"IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY THE COUNTRY WORKS ... LEAVE" ...

It took fifty years but the one thing I now know ...

HE WAS RIGHT!






 
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wolfhunter

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Good points, 2Bear.

I don't agree that GWBush was our worst President, but will agree he ranks in the lower range. After all he didn't hurt the economy as much as Carter did, and didn't kill as many Constitution-following Americans as Lincoln did, but the rest of your post is on target.

Regarding the topic of this thread: Does anybody really think 0bama personally planned the stage backdrop? In the discussion on Fox&Friends today, Huckabee pointed out that some 25 year old "roadie" setting up the stage probably asked in terms of having a more uniform backdrop, not a specific request to cover a symbol with religious conotations. Now, if someone can't be quoted giving specific direction, or produce a letter of direction, I'll accept the roadie theory on this one because I can dislike 0bama's policies and practices for lots of other reasons.

edited to add: If Georgetown had not covered the symbol and it appeared in any single moment to be centered over 0bama, don't you think THAT single image would be distributed as if it were 0bama's title over his head?
 
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scdapmp

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I'm inclined to think the back drop was done for lighting and filming reasons. Filming can be difficult and a good background can help alot... it make the subject pop.

That's what I'm going with, otherwise it is just too silly to even think about.

that's my .02
 

Piece Corps

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2beararms, I think you've had your fill of Kool-Aid. And it's not JUST Obama (or whoever he is), it is the liberal, leftist, socialistic minds that are rapidly leading us into the New World Order and trashing our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Let's get it straight ... If the crap hits the fan, you will either decide to stand up, next to the next guy and defend AMERICA as and AMERICAN and rally around the flag and WHOEVER is leading the country at that time or you will find yourself being declared the enemy by those who do.
We have already been declared "the enemy" in case you're too dense to read the news lately. And it is US who are rallying around the flag, and the Constitution, as those supposedly "leading the country" continue to work at destroying what is left of this country.

Personally, I thought George W. Bush was the worst president we have ever had BUT for eight years he was MY president and as an American, for that period I respected the office... THAT is what AMERICANS do!
Oh, so you respected Bush when he was in office? Have you been on another planet the last 8 years? The liberals and their media cohorts trashed Bush constantly, and then trashed McCain and really trashed Palin during the election. Respect for Bush? Pray tell, where? I'll tell you what - I'll give the same respect to Obama that you gave to Bush.

Look at what is happening in this country lately. We AMERICANS are showing that we are very dissatisfied with what is going on. Obama is filling his cabinet with crook after crook, bipartisanship has been thrown out the window, Pelosi, Reid, et al, are thumbing their noses at conservativers and stating that "we won and now you're going to get what's coming to you."

I would suggest that you go back and actually read the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and then tell YOUR president (he ain't mine!) that he was sworn to uphold and defend the same. That re-writing the Constitution is NOT a choice! Read especially in the Declaration where it says:

That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
And by the way, this is MY country, and I'm not going anywhere. You question MY patriotism and allegiance to my country, you're crossing the line. I served my country when people like you were spitting on us.
 

IrishOB

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Focus

2beararms,
There is indeed too much vitriole being spewed about our current president. If you think the volume of this idiotic venom increased when Barack Obama took office, I'll beg to differ with you. Every president is greeted with a firehose of pinheads blabbing on and on about an infinite array of falsehoods and mistruths. Whether or not Barack Obama decides to wear an American flag on his lapel makes no difference to me. If he chooses to face Mecca and perform his daily rituals....so be it...enjoy your freedom of religion. I enjoy mine.

I don't agree Bush is the worst president we've ever had. My opinion is mine, and mine alone.

My primary reason for being suspicious of the current administration revolves around my 2nd amendment rights.

I don't care about Bush's religion. I don't care about Obama's. What I will tell you is that the those seeking to infringe upon my right to keep and bear arms DO capture my attention.

I respect your opinion and can see you're passionate about your beliefs.

However, if someone tells me, "We're going to change your constitution and if you don't like it, you can just leave."....well....let's just say we're not going to see eye to eye.

I'll defend the constitution...but those who choose to change it - piecemeal - to progress their ideologies - shall not be defended by this American.

It's entirely too early to give Barack Obama a 'report card'....but at the semester break, I hope he reconsiders pending legislation and revisits the direction of our founding fathers IN THE ARENA OF MY CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS.

If I don't like the way my country works, I'll use my rights and my elected representatives to change it. I won't leave. This is my country.

I wish everyone in this forum would focus on our constitutional right to keep and bear arms, the preservation thereof, and expose those who wish to remove said rights. This is the 2nd Amendment and Politics section of this website. If anyone - black, white, Democrat, Republican, Jewish, Christian or Muslim - takes aim on the abolishment of the 2nd Amendment....we should band together to identify, expose, resist and repeal their intentions.

That's all I'm saying.....
 

JLEE

New member
2bear, who is trashing those documents. (Constitution,Bill of Rights)? By the way, I would rather invoke the name of Jesus, than deny it.Some one is trying to distance this country from its roots, and turn it into something other than a Democratic Republic. The Founding Fathers had the right idea. We are headed toward a socialistic totalitarian society, and I and many do not like it. As far as the election, their are a lot of Questions. Acorn!
 

wellarmedliberal

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Bush was the worst president we ever had, Regan was the second worst president we ever had. They both sucked. Bush because he let his second and third in command run him like a puppet and when they did allow him to make decisions, he was to stupid to do anything right. And Regan because he was a lier about the whole "tear down your wall" thing. That wall was falling long before Regan came to office. Regan was a shameless opportunist. Why the media still paints him as a hero I can only surmise because he looked good in a cowboy hat. Or maybe they don't want to beat up on an old senile president. Boo hoo, he sucked.
And for those of you who say things like "Obama...He anit my president", you are not only unpatriotic, but you must not understand what it means when the nation elects a president. Guess what...He is your president and by saying he is not doesn't make you special. Feel free to disagree with him and do it loudly if you wish, but he is and will be yours and my president until he is not.
This site could do much more for the advancement of gun ownership if the clucks promoting god and a government guided by "gods hand" would just go away. Stick to the pursuit of true morality found in the close examination of laws past and future. Only there, with clear and honest objectivity, will the public see that as an American, we have the right to bare arms.
wal
 
Good Morning Wellarmedliberal

You are exactly what makes this Country Great.

You have the right to voice your opion.

I also have the right to disagree, and continue to beleive, in my God, and My Country.

I also think we should really stick to the pursuit of true morality found in the close examination of what it took to make this a free Country, it surely wasn't Liberals, because it took Guts, and God to do it.

It also took strong leaders that were more interested in the future of this Country than their own Socialist agenda to write and uphold the Constitution of United States.

You should check out DownsizeDC.org it may be a step in the right direction.

Except their ideas are for upholding the Constitution not free hand outs.

Take Care
Debray
 
Bush was the worst president we ever had, Regan was the second worst president we ever had. They both sucked. Bush because he let his second and third in command run him like a puppet and when they did allow him to make decisions, he was to stupid to do anything right. And Regan because he was a lier about the whole "tear down your wall" thing. That wall was falling long before Regan came to office. Regan was a shameless opportunist. Why the media still paints him as a hero I can only surmise because he looked good in a cowboy hat. Or maybe they don't want to beat up on an old senile president. Boo hoo, he sucked.
And for those of you who say things like "Obama...He anit my president", you are not only unpatriotic, but you must not understand what it means when the nation elects a president. Guess what...He is your president and by saying he is not doesn't make you special. Feel free to disagree with him and do it loudly if you wish, but he is and will be yours and my president until he is not.
This site could do much more for the advancement of gun ownership if the clucks promoting god and a government guided by "gods hand" would just go away. Stick to the pursuit of true morality found in the close examination of laws past and future. Only there, with clear and honest objectivity, will the public see that as an American, we have the right to bare arms.wal
We see where your politics lay. I agree "W" Bush was not the best president we ever had (but he wasn't the worst either), however, Reagan was far from being even second worst and was much better than Clinton. If you think I'm strictly republican you are very wrong. I still believe JFK was the best president in my life time. As for politicians thet lie, well they all do including our current president (notice I said "our" current president). This country was founded on "In God We Trust" and we have lost that fundamental principal. We allow groups to take anything that mentions, or alludes to religeon out of our schools. To remove the Ten Commandments (the basis for all laws) from court rooms. Now there is a push to remove "In God We Trust" from our currency. You don't have to believe in God, that's your right. To force the removal of what this country was founded on is just as wrong as trying to force you to believe in God. The Constitution protects the right of freedom of religeon because it is part of what this country was built on.
 

Piece Corps

New member
Bush was the worst president we ever had, Regan was the second worst president we ever had. They both sucked. Bush because he let his second and third in command run him like a puppet and when they did allow him to make decisions, he was to stupid to do anything right. And Regan because he was a lier about the whole "tear down your wall" thing. That wall was falling long before Regan came to office. Regan was a shameless opportunist. Why the media still paints him as a hero I can only surmise because he looked good in a cowboy hat. Or maybe they don't want to beat up on an old senile president. Boo hoo, he sucked.
And for those of you who say things like "Obama...He anit my president", you are not only unpatriotic, but you must not understand what it means when the nation elects a president. Guess what...He is your president and by saying he is not doesn't make you special. Feel free to disagree with him and do it loudly if you wish, but he is and will be yours and my president until he is not.
This site could do much more for the advancement of gun ownership if the clucks promoting god and a government guided by "gods hand" would just go away. Stick to the pursuit of true morality found in the close examination of laws past and future. Only there, with clear and honest objectivity, will the public see that as an American, we have the right to bare arms.
wal
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Another troll. And obviously one who isn't all that literate, either. He wouldn't know a patriot if one shot him in the a**.

You ought to take your own advice, and read the Declaration of Independence and Constitution. "True morality found in the close examination of laws past and future?" What are you smokin', son? While you're rambling on about "clear and honest objectivity," our Constitution is being pulled apart by a bunch of socialists who think the Founding Fathers were those "clucks promoting god and a government guided by 'gods hand'.

When you find your rights, all of them, being thrown under the bus, don't go crying about how YOUR president promised he wouldn't take away your right to keep and BEAR arms (I bare my arms every day, and haven't been arrested yet) and then came for yours. Right now, the "public" is being told that having a gun is so dangerous that only the police and military should have them. Or don't you know Pelosi or Holder or Neapolitano from the news? HR45? The assault weapons ban? You Do know how to read, don't you?

I don't know why I'm wasting my time - you're obviously hooked on the government Kool-Aid. Enjoy your guns (if you actually own any) while you still can. And if you're allowed to keep them, you can thank a patriot. You know, those people who still believe that this country was bcreated by freemen who didn't take crap from a over-reaching government. Read your history, boy, and not some "Captain Obama" comic book.
 
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wolfhunter

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Bush was the worst president we ever had, Regan was the second worst president we ever had. They both sucked. Bush because he let his second and third in command run him like a puppet and when they did allow him to make decisions, he was to stupid to do anything right. And Regan because he was a lier about the whole "tear down your wall" thing. That wall was falling long before Regan came to office. Regan was a shameless opportunist. Why the media still paints him as a hero I can only surmise because he looked good in a cowboy hat. Or maybe they don't want to beat up on an old senile president. Boo hoo, he sucked.
And for those of you who say things like "Obama...He anit my president", you are not only unpatriotic, but you must not understand what it means when the nation elects a president. Guess what...He is your president and by saying he is not doesn't make you special. Feel free to disagree with him and do it loudly if you wish, but he is and will be yours and my president until he is not.
This site could do much more for the advancement of gun ownership if the clucks promoting god and a government guided by "gods hand" would just go away. Stick to the pursuit of true morality found in the close examination of laws past and future. Only there, with clear and honest objectivity, will the public see that as an American, we have the right to bare arms.
wal
Hey guys, WAL has some points. REGAN (who was he?) might have been a LIER (does this mean he stayed in bed?) and may not have had anything to do with the Berlin wall, and WAL does seem to know something about stupid people. Oh, and those of us who live in the warmer part of the US appreciate the right to bare arms. Now, if he meant to say that Bush and REAGAN were the two worst Presidents, I'll disagree. Neither man killed as many Americans exercising their rights as Lincoln did, neither man hurt the economy as badly as Carter, Hoover or FD Roosevelt did, neither man made as big an embarrassment of the US as Carter did when he allowed Iran to take and hold our citizens as hostages.
 

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