Gun (Misleading) Information


mom of 3 angels

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That guy is too far gone for me to even want to try to discuss logic. :wacko:

We could point out all the illogical statements in his 30 Reasons, but I'll just hit on one. He didn't finish 27. "There is much more gun violence in the US than other industrialized nations, but it's better to face an armed criminal."

. . . It's better to face an armed criminal armed than unarmed. :biggrin:
 

HK4U

New member
Just another example of someone that would lie to try and convince others. Sad to say there are many who will believe his lies rather that researching for themselves the real facts.
 

ricbak

New member
Sorry GF, but I can't resist~ but I think your going to go broke sending these guys abuck for a clue...
 

Tex4oc

Patriot 1st
What an idiot, he must have just torn pages directly from the "Brady Manifesto". Guns cause crime like cars cause drunk drivers, there is simply too much data conflicting his theories, sounds like someone that just likes to hear himself speak.
 

Piece Corps

New member
Here's 2 of the easy ones:

MYTH: If you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have guns.
TRUTH: If you outlaw guns, very few criminals will have guns. In America guns start out legal. Then they enter the black market one way or the other (source). So if you have less legal guns then there will less guns entering the black market and consequently less outlaws owning guns. Think about it. Nations with very strict gun control laws such as the UK, Australia, and Japan have much lower gun crime rates than the US. The most probable explanation for this is that criminals in the US have much greater access to guns due to less gun control. Saying "If you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have guns" is very misleading and completely absurd. If you outlaw guns, less outlaws will have guns. Would you rather have more or less outlaws owning guns? The answer is obvious.
First, criminals will always have access to guns. If gund exist anywhere in the world, criminals will have them. If there is a militray armory anyhwere, if there is one police car with a gun in it, the criminals will have them. Secondly, if guns are outlawed, I will still have my guns, so I will be an outlaw. And I am sure that pertains to most of us up here.
MYTH:Gun ownership is a protection against political tyranny.
TRUTH: Private ownership of guns was very common under Saddam Hussein's regime (source).It certainly didn't protect the Iraqi people against political tyranny. Gun ownership was legalized in Germany in 1928, five years before Hitler rose to power. Despite the claims of pro-gun activists, gun ownership did nothing to stop a tyrant like Hitler from seizing power. In 1938, Germany's gun laws were relaxed except in the case of Jews. Although the gun lobby has tried to associate racism with gun control, white supremacists have often praised the Nazis for being pro-gun and have opposed gun control. An example of that is this quote: "If you register your gun with anybody, you're a nut! When the conspiracy comes for your firearm, give it to 'em like this grand dragon is going to - right between the eyes." -Klu Klux Klan (Richmond Times- Dispatch, July 5, 1967)
Our Constitution was written by patriots who were experiencing the confiscation of their arms in an attempt to control and force their submission to the king. The Declaration of Independence is PROOF of the fact that they knew an armed citizenry was a check-and-balance against tyranny. And history, even ancient history, has proven that the government first disarms its people before subjugating them. This goes all the way back to Rome and before.

Saddam didn't worry about private ownership of guns because his military/goons kept them under control by killing anyone who opposed them. You cannot compare the Muslim mentality/mindset with people who have always known freedom and will fight to keep it, so the argument is invalid.

The only way this government will become totally socialist is for those who love liberty to be disarmed and silenced. And that ain't gonna happen. I believe the US military will join the people if push comes to shove. If socialism has its way, there will be only 2 classes of people, those with guns, and slaves.
 

Landavazoaj

New member
Counteract this by using GunFacts.info

Two sides to every story: Your side, My side and The Truth. Cool thing is my side is backed by the very people who initiated the Revolution. The sad thing is, all of these anti-gun folk are misinformed (and they say the same about us), HOWEVER. If I saw Ms. Brady from the notorious Brady Campaign being attacked I would do my best to help her infact i'd give my life to try to protect hers (comes with the profession but in a personal capacity as well)....when some tragic accident happens they say "see told you so na na na na na na".
 

Landavazoaj

New member
Why didn't anyone mention the fallacy in his argument of Germany? Hitler confiscated arms to promote "NATIONAL SECURITY"....I just sent the guy an E-mail to point this out and ask a question...

He reports that most firearm owners are more likely to be a victim: I politely asked why he cared....
 

capo2186

New member
Why didn't anyone mention the fallacy in his argument of Germany? Hitler confiscated arms to promote "NATIONAL SECURITY"....I just sent the guy an E-mail to point this out and ask a question...

He reports that most firearm owners are more likely to be a victim: I politely asked why he cared....
How does owning a firearm make us more likely to be a victim???

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/ZendoDeb/twoways_s.jpg

Now you tell me which you would rather be????

Personaly, Id like to be the right side of the picture, which is why I do own, and will always own a firearm. This guy needs to wake up.
 

Landavazoaj

New member
I never understood the logic of those gun grabbers- "well you might accidentally shoot yourself". Sure, tragedies happen from lack of training, lack of care, or just an honest mistake. However, I beleive that being attacked by someone whom I cannot defend against without superior equipment is more likely.
 

HK4U

New member
I never understood the logic of those gun grabbers- "well you might accidentally shoot yourself". Sure, tragedies happen from lack of training, lack of care, or just an honest mistake. However, I beleive that being attacked by someone whom I cannot defend against without superior equipment is more likely.
Exactly. You might wreck your car so you should not have one. You might fall off a ladder so the average person should not have one. No one should have anything electrical because of the danger of a shock and of course bathtubs should be banned to prevent drowning.:fie:
 

Scarecrow

New member
another case of some one talking out his butt. these people should know better.. or look at facts before writing something so idiotic.
 
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wolfhunter

Guest
I just realized I'm a gun grabber.

When I leave my bedroom in the morning, I grab my gun.
When I leave the house, I grab (and holster) my gun.
When my gun isn't in my belt holster, I grab it everytime I leave a room.
If I get up in the middle of the night, I grab my gun.

Yep, I'm a gun grabber.
 

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