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8 Dead in North Carolina Nursing Home Shooting Not sure about there but here in Texas nursing homes are gun free zones
I bet the nurse and others who are "trained to heal" could have benifited from having a concealed firearm readily available. Classic example of how several people are killed before the police are able to make it to the scene. I'm glad the officer got there quickly and the killing was stopped, but in reality it's a sad fact that 8 people lost their lives.
One of the reasons why I carry "whenever leagally allowed" to do so.
there not gun free zones here in va, however im sure none will allow the residents to have one. thats just horrible to live to a ripe retirement age and be killed in such a tragic sensless shooting. i think he should burn at the stake:hang3:
I had just left my Mother who is in a center much like this one when I heard about the shooting. One thing ifor sure is if they allowed residents to have guns in that center my Mother would not be there. Very few of the residents in that facility could be trusted to carry a gun or even a knife around. As for the staff being armed I would be concerned about that as they way the have to interact with the residents it would be very easy for one to get hold of the gun from a staff member even if carried in a retention holster. The only door that is unlocked for the public to enter is the front door.
Visiting the residents in an Alzheimer's faciltiy is both tragic and funny at the same time. You have to laugh at the residents but keep an eye on them at the same time because yuou can never tell what they will do next. Afriend of mine lived nesxt door to his wifes father and mother. One day his fil came over and said, "You know that woman that lives in that house over there. The next time she fusses at me I am going to kill her". The sad part was that he did not even know that the woman was his wife and he actually meant he was going to kill her and would not have hesitated to do it.
Not all the crazy people are in the asylum and we have just seen that. Bad things are going to happen, we just need to try and minimize them as much as possible.
scary. more multiple random shootings are happening. Why? I do not know. :angry:
What we do know, however, is that the uptick in seemingly random mass shootings won't be decreased by new laws that restrict the rights of law abiding citizens. What can be done to reduce such incidents? I don't know. However, what I do know is that taking away people's guns certainly won't accomplish it.
yup and the reason i said im sure the residents are not allowed to have them was for obvios reasons, a huge percentage of patients in nursing homes , rehab facilitys and assisted living communities have alzhiemers or dementia. someone who does a proper job of concealing should not have to worry about someone taking it from them. because no one will know they have it until heaven forbid its needed.
Actually there is a big difference between each of the facilities. You do not mix the rehab, nursing home, assisted living, retirement homes and alzheimersgroups together. Each have their own special needs and the public needs to be educated on these. With the work that many of the staff have to do and the mentality of many of the residents it would be very hard to conceal a weapon from them. If you have not been exposed to it first hand it is hard to understand the actions and mentality of what happens in these homes. With Alzheimers sufferes their mainf tends to regress and they can easily go into the mentality of a teen-ager or child and become as sneaky and resourceful as a child. They can easily discover a gun on you, think that it is a BB gun and want to play with it as one.
After seeing what goes on in the facility where my Mother stays if they were to allow guns either by the staff or residents she would immediately be moved to another facility. I know that this may sound like I am anti but I would rather take the chance of a gunman bursting in like in NC than what I have seen my mother and her neighbors do. You have to laugh at their antics or else you would cry. I hoe that none of you ever have to go through it.
yes i agree with you if you didnt like the idea of someone carrying in her nursing home you have every right to move her. yes i have been exposed to it quite alot over the past 18 years that i have spent in ems. most of the facilitys here in va have seperate wings for the special needs patients in which their wing is locked down from entry or exit by unauthorized persons. as well as have a rehab and nursing unit as well. the assisted living comunties here are generally small 1 floor condo's where they are visited once or twice daily and their lawn is taken care of and they are free to come and go as they please. we also have some hotel like facilitys for assisted living to for those not in immediate need of nursing service. i dont peg your comments as anti gun, i just believe we should have no restrictions to which where we can carry. with exception of detention facilitys and court rooms due to the fact one is full of desperate people who will do anything to get out and the other is filled with emotional family members of victims who might try to serve justice if the justice system doesnt serve them