Supreme court case pending???


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Will Supreme Court take case on Obama's citizenship?
By JAMES JANEGA
Chicago Tribune
Dec. 3, 2008, 10:07PMShare
Print Email Del.icio.usDiggTechnoratiYahoo! BuzzCHICAGO — The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's election.

The meeting of justices will coincide with a vigil by the filer's supporters in Washington on the steps of the nation's highest court.

The suit originally sought to stay the election, and was filed on behalf of Leo Donofrio against New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Mitchell Wells.

Legal experts say the appeal has little chance of succeeding, despite appearing on the court's schedule. Legal records show it is only the tip of an iceberg of nationwide efforts seeking to derail Obama's election over accusations that he either wasn't born a U.S. citizen or that he later renounced his citizenship in Indonesia.

The Obama campaign has maintained that he was born in Hawaii, has an authentic birth certificate, and is a "natural-born" U.S. citizen. Hawaiian officials agree.

Among those filing lawsuits is Alan Keyes, who lost to Obama in the 2004 Illinois Senate race. Keyes' suit seeks to halt certification of votes in California. Another suit by a Kentucky man seeks to have a federal judge review Obama's original birth certificate, which Hawaiian officials say is locked in a state vault.

Other suits have been filed by Andy Martin, whose case was dismissed in Hawaii, and by an Ohio man whose case also was dismissed. Five more suits, all later dismissed, were filed in Hawaii by a person who is currently suing the "Peoples Association of Human, Animals Conceived God/s and Religions, John McCain (and) USA Govt." The plaintiff previously sought to sue Wikipedia and "All News Media."

The most famous case questioning Obama's citizenship was filed in Pennsylvania in August on behalf of Philip J. Berg and sought to enjoin the Democratic National Committee from nominating Obama. The U.S. Supreme Court declined to accept the case. Earlier, a federal judge rejected it for "lack of standing" — ruling that Berg had no legal right to sue. In cases like this, judges sometimes believe the matter is best left to political institutions, such as the Electoral College or Congress, said legal scholar Eugene Volokh of the University of California at Los Angeles.

The remaining case with the highest profile is Donofrio vs. Wells. Because it was distributed by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to other justices for conference, it gained undue importance for people unschooled in how the court works, Volokh said.

Many petitioners seeking stays of pending events have their cases distributed to the full court, he said. Of those, Volokh found that 782 were denied in the last eight years while just 60 were heard — and not all of those ultimately were successful.



I know this is a horse we beat to death in an earlier thread but it is now mainstream media and low and behold gaining coverage.
 

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Sheldon

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They could silence all this by just providing a actual valid birth certificate and not the certificate of birth he is using now.
No they are not the same...
Biden, McCain, Palin, all supplied one why not him?
 
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gdcleanfun

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I certainly hope they agree to hear the case in open court. It might put an end to the argument one way or the other. Then again, I haven't yet heard an end to the Second Amendment argument, so who knows...
 

Bohemian

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Obama Crimes

U.S. Supreme Court Update Regarding The December 01, 2008 Deadline


We understand everyone is eager to learn what occurred on December 1, 2008, at the U.S. Supreme Court. There is a rumor claiming Mr. Obama was Court Ordered by Justice Souter to turn over his birth certificate by December 1, 2008. This is NOT true.

When a Petition for a Writ of Certiorari is filed the Defendants automatically are given thirty (30) days to respond. They are not required to respond. The end of thirty (30) Days in the Berg v. Obama case was December 1, 2008. Keep in mind, the Defendants could have mailed in a response to the Petition for Writ of Certiorari and the Court allows approximately a week for mail. If this is the case, the envelopes must be postmarked December 1, 2008.

In the afternoon, December 1, 2008, Lisa, Mr. Berg's Assistant contacted the U.S. Supreme Court and spoke with the Clerk. The Clerk informed Lisa Mr. Berg's Petition for Writ of Certiorari would be distributed to all nine (9) Justices and a conference should be set within ten (10) days. As I'm sure you are aware, during the conference the Justices will discuss Mr. Berg's Petition for the Writ of Certiorari and decide whether or not to grant or deny the Petition. It only takes four (4) out of nine (9) Justices to agree to grant Mr. Berg's Petition for Writ of Certiorari. The Justices can also make other Orders during the Conference.

Mr. Berg's Office also learned the Solicitor General is only representing the Federal Election Commission.

Additional documents will be filed within the next couple of days. All Legal briefs will be posted on our website, so please continue checking back for updates.

Last Updated on Thursday, 04 December 2008 12:20

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toreskha

Titles are un-American.
SCOTUS probably won't take this unless there's an actual Constitutional question in play. Technically, there's no question if the birth certificate hasn't been produced. So far, the birth certificate hasn't been produced, because apparently the word of some officials in Hawaii is considered good enough to keep it under wraps.

When SCOTUS doesn't take this, it's not a reflection of bias or anything on their part - it's just the fact that they're not going to put themselves out on a limb unless it's a definite question in play. They're not in the business of theory. The original certificate needs to be recovered, or some other verifiable, on-paper evidence needs to be brought out that shows Obama's citizenship isn't what he says it is.

As some may already have guessed, I'm no big fan of Obama - but Supreme Court justices want to see hard evidence. Otherwise, they end up looking like fools.
 

Bohemian

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SCOTUS probably won't take this unless there's an actual Constitutional question in play. Technically, there's no question if the birth certificate hasn't been produced. So far, the birth certificate hasn't been produced, because apparently the word of some officials in Hawaii is considered good enough to keep it under wraps.

When SCOTUS doesn't take this, it's not a reflection of bias or anything on their part - it's just the fact that they're not going to put themselves out on a limb unless it's a definite question in play. They're not in the business of theory. The original certificate needs to be recovered, or some other verifiable, on-paper evidence needs to be brought out that shows Obama's citizenship isn't what he says it is.

As some may already have guessed, I'm no big fan of Obama - but Supreme Court justices want to see hard evidence. Otherwise, they end up looking like fools.

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Article Two of the United States Constitution

Section 1: President and Vice President

Clause 5: Qualifications for office

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

At best Obama can only be considered a Naturalized Citizen...

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YouTube - Obama Forgery Exposed (Dr. Polarik Official Use)

http://www.obamacrimes.com/images/stories/obamaad.jpg
 
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Sheldon

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Yep I know about some of the stuff in the U tube video, actually most of it except the color charges they make on a yearly bassis... So how about F. if it was a "original" document why would it have a 2008 stamp, this was suppose to be one he found that was conveniently laying around and not a new one from the State.
 

toreskha

Titles are un-American.
Obama Crimes

Article Two of the United States Constitution

Section 1: President and Vice President

Clause 5: Qualifications for office

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

At best Obama can only be considered a Naturalized Citizen...
I know what the Constitution says.

What would be needed to make this go forward would be a court order (probably by someone lower than Supreme Court) to produce his birth certificate. Unfortunately that has not yet been done, so in a legal sense, the burden of proof is against us. Hawaii is sitting on his birth certificate, and unless someone can pull it out from under them, then there's probably no "question". Even the order to produce the certificate could be appealed up to SCOTUS, and that's probably a more realistic situation.
 

tattedupboy

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When is Obama himself going to put this whole matter to rest and just produce the damn birth certificate?
 

HK4U

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I am sure he has a whole lot of skeletons in his closet and all attempts to bring them to light will be swept under the rug.
 

mtndwell

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Just some food for thought. It probably isn't as sensationalized as Obama, but our other presidential choice, John McCain, definitively wasn't born in the US. He was born in Panama. Does that make him more or less of a citizen? Interesting that the only candidates we can seem to come up with for President, in a country our size, are ones that aren't natural born. Go figure.
 

festus

God Bless Our Troops!!!
It's all about disclosue

Just some food for thought. It probably isn't as sensationalized as Obama, but our other presidential choice, John McCain, definitively wasn't born in the US. He was born in Panama. Does that make him more or less of a citizen? Interesting that the only candidates we can seem to come up with for President, in a country our size, are ones that aren't natural born. Go figure.


When asked, McCain provided the documents. He was above board about it and a stand up guy. Obama is not being a stand up guy nor is he being above board on this issue.
 

mtndwell

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Disclosure???

When asked, McCain provided the documents. He was above board about it and a stand up guy. Obama is not being a stand up guy nor is he being above board on this issue.

What about his medical records? Is he that stand up of a guy? He refused to supply them at every turn, even though he would be the most powerful man in the country, with a ditsy, inexperienced running mate (never mind that he is in his 70's). I was not agreeing with the actions of either. I was simply accentuating the fact that both major political parties, both Democrat and Republican, choose questionable candidates. Out of all the people in the US, these are the best you could come up with? Please. Maybe it is because of the immigration influx, or possibly it is because most of our country/government is becoming foreign owned (with the billions they require to run, where do you think the money is coming from). Maybe they choose those they can control, it is an interesting concept. Personally, I did not care for either. Only time will tell how it will turn out.
 
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boyzoi

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This was brought up on here before,,,,McCain was born on a United States Military base, that makes him a natural born citizen, period, always did, never a question: only by those wanting to take the light off of nobama. As for his medical records he produced something like 1500 pages of said and he has never shunned the light when asked about his health.
 

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