The duplicity and dishonesty of politicians is boundless.


NDS

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The presumptive Democratic nominee for President of the United States travels to Jerusalem where he 'prays' and, as is customary, leaves his written prayer behind. An unscrupulous reporter removes that prayer and exposes its contents to the world. Or not:

israelinsider: politics: Paper, rapped for outing Obama note, claims campaign pre-approved leak

I'm sorry, but religious belief aside, this whole episode is dsigusting.
 

HK4U

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If he really wanted only God to know his prayer he would have prayed it in private and not stuck it in a wall where everyone was watching him. He will miss no opportunity for a P.R. stunt
 

toreskha

Titles are un-American.
Obama has a lot of advisers from the Clinton years on his staff. They're available aplenty and they all want back in on the action. That's why he's got the humongous brain trust of experienced talent around to wag the dog like this.
 

jwtollett21

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clinton advisors

When Obama wins i hope he keeps all these clinton advisors on his team. i was reading on cnn the other day of how George bush inherited from clinton like 123 billion surplus. every year since mcbush took office he has posted a loss in the deficit. now it is at an all time high of like 980billion. That is debt that our grandchildren will have to pay off. Why do most people on this website feel like a man that voted 89% of the time with the bush administration is going to do anything different when he is elected. Is there anybody on this website that likes Obama more than mccain. I personally don't agree with anyone of them 100%. But i have weighed out the difference and based on that, the scale has leaned democratic for me in November.
 

HK4U

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When Obama wins i hope he keeps all these clinton advisors on his team. i was reading on cnn the other day of how George bush inherited from clinton like 123 billion surplus. every year since mcbush took office he has posted a loss in the deficit. now it is at an all time high of like 980billion. That is debt that our grandchildren will have to pay off. Why do most people on this website feel like a man that voted 89% of the time with the bush administration is going to do anything different when he is elected. Is there anybody on this website that likes Obama more than mccain. I personally don't agree with anyone of them 100%. But i have weighed out the difference and based on that, the scale has leaned democratic for me in November.

Is there anybody on this website that likes Obama more than mccain.

NO!
 

jwtollett21

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I don't believe you are looking at the whole picture hk. I agree with everybody on this website that obama is not a big pro gun guy but that is not the only issue that is facing america. that is way down on the list of importance. He will not take our guns away, for that matter i don't think anybody every will.
 

HK4U

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I don't believe you are looking at the whole picture hk. I agree with everybody on this website that obama is not a big pro gun guy but that is not the only issue that is facing america. that is way down on the list of importance. He will not take our guns away, for that matter i don't think anybody every will.

I can't think of any issues that I would agree with him on.
 

boris

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jw,

if the guns go, the nation will cease to exist as we know it. but obama does nothave the experience to lead. he is a personality. tell me, how can someone who has noteven finished his first term as junior varsity senator from a liberal state become a front runner for president? he is against EVERYTHING TAT AMERICA WAS FOUNDED ON AND STANDS/STOOD FOR. you will not find any obama supporters here because we value freedom, or at least what is left of it. if obama is elected and he probably will be, we are likely to experience the next great ameican uprising because of the " messiah's" grand policies. he has already stated that he wants "brownshirts". they ain't coming for sunday school. he has said he is against the 2nd amendment and then fliped on that . what we need is a leader who LEADS regardless of what whiners and crybabies say or do. i am not a mccain fan for sure, but america will be better off with him tan obama. besides, all the middle eastern "leaders" and terriorists support obama for our president and you want me to look at the big picture? i have a pretty good idea of what i looks like. health care? you can go to any hospital and get care. they cannot say no. it is against the law. they must render aid. i am not votng the way the islamofascists want me to. i better stop now.
 

jwtollett21

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if the guns go, the nation will cease to exist as we know it. but obama does nothave the experience to lead. he is a personality. tell me, how can someone who has noteven finished his first term as junior varsity senator from a liberal state become a front runner for president? he is against EVERYTHING TAT AMERICA WAS FOUNDED ON AND STANDS/STOOD FOR. you will not find any obama supporters here because we value freedom, or at least what is left of it. if obama is elected and he probably will be, we are likely to experience the next great ameican uprising because of the " messiah's" grand policies. he has already stated that he wants "brownshirts". they ain't coming for sunday school. he has said he is against the 2nd amendment and then fliped on that . what we need is a leader who LEADS regardless of what whiners and crybabies say or do. i am not a mccain fan for sure, but america will be better off with him tan obama. besides, all the middle eastern "leaders" and terriorists support obama for our president and you want me to look at the big picture? i have a pretty good idea of what i looks like. health care? you can go to any hospital and get care. they cannot say no. it is against the law. they must render aid. i am not votng the way the islamofascists want me to. i better stop now.

And why will we not have freedom if he wins. i don't believe he is against everything america stands for either. Where do you guys get all this.Ok he will not take our guns away. If he was planning on it he has got way to much stuff on the table that bush will have left him to worry about that will take up all his time. health care needs to become more affordable. we have to help our senior citizens out that make less than fifty thousand a year by cutting their taxes completely.Also Islam has nothing to do with obama. If any of you guys here of this nonsense or go to a church that is preaching for either candidate or filling your minds full of this false stuff about him being a muslim or other islamic crap,you should really go somewhere else. Mccain is not better because he will just continue to keep us in this mess. Experience has nothing to do with this election. Look how much W bush was experienced, his dad was even president first that didn't help his 8 years of running this country in the ground and especially my class the working class. I am telling you fellow's the republicans are for the super rich and are buddies with the big oil,(one reason why they want to drill for oil here).I know his name is funny and he is not a davey crockett with guns or anything but this country can't stand another bush. When he took office in 2000 their was piece and prosperity now we have war and 980 billion in debt. Don't vote against yourself. Hey if I made 250k or more a year i would jump on the bandwagon with all you on this site but i don't. Blue collar=democrat
 

boris

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well, jw,

1. blue collar doesn't always equal democrat. i have been a blue collar man my whole workng life including 15 years in security/ law enforcement. i was in the texas tate guard. i worked for a major defense contractor. i have always since i was old enough to vote, voted republican.
2. i along with most folks her on the board do not make 250k a year. my wifeand i between the 2 of us make less than 30k a year.and we have a disabled child.
it is well known that hussein was born a islamist. went to a islamist school. he went to a church for 20 yrs that spewed hatred for America and people who are not of African descent. do not insult my intelligence by telling me how he has not been influenced by wright and how hussein has backed away from the teaching. the new pastor is worse. makes me wonder though that if he has renounced islam how come the imams hav not issued a fatwa on him like they do others who have left islam? why do they support him? that should raisered flags just that. i can't go to church anymore due to work and the disabled son. bt i have neverbeen in achurch tat prachd hate, thouh i have heard some on the radio andalways against white folk and against america. you're barkin' up the wrong tree, boy. i am through with you. at least on this subject.
 

kwo51

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Obma is a socialist as where werew the clintons. How did blii c. reduce the deffict so fast or is this all a farce.
 

RDW

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When Obama wins i hope he keeps all these clinton advisors on his team. i was reading on cnn the other day of how George bush inherited from clinton like 123 billion surplus. every year since mcbush took office he has posted a loss in the deficit. now it is at an all time high of like 980billion. That is debt that our grandchildren will have to pay off. Why do most people on this website feel like a man that voted 89% of the time with the bush administration is going to do anything different when he is elected. Is there anybody on this website that likes Obama more than mccain. I personally don't agree with anyone of them 100%. But i have weighed out the difference and based on that, the scale has leaned democratic for me in November.


JWTOLLETT21, Lets just say that we agree to disagree and that our votes for president will cancel each other out. Did I like Clinton....no, Did I like carter....no. But I still respected the the office, and tried to support them in what they were trying to accomplish. I don't agree with the "Mcbush" comment. I know that a lot of people think they are voting for the lesser of two evils, but I don't think that Mr Obama can take this country in the direction that it needs to go.
 

jwtollett21

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1. blue collar doesn't always equal democrat. i have been a blue collar man my whole workng life including 15 years in security/ law enforcement. i was in the texas tate guard. i worked for a major defense contractor. i have always since i was old enough to vote, voted republican.
2. i along with most folks her on the board do not make 250k a year. my wifeand i between the 2 of us make less than 30k a year.and we have a disabled child.
it is well known that hussein was born a islamist. went to a islamist school. he went to a church for 20 yrs that spewed hatred for America and people who are not of African descent. do not insult my intelligence by telling me how he has not been influenced by wright and how hussein has backed away from the teaching. the new pastor is worse. makes me wonder though that if he has renounced islam how come the imams hav not issued a fatwa on him like they do others who have left islam? why do they support him? that should raisered flags just that. i can't go to church anymore due to work and the disabled son. bt i have neverbeen in achurch tat prachd hate, thouh i have heard some on the radio andalways against white folk and against america. you're barkin' up the wrong tree, boy. i am through with you. at least on this subject.

I don't know if that's a threat or what. SOunds like you should just take a chill pill and lets talk nice here. Obama is not a muslim. His dad was but his mother was actually nothing. He has heard lots of different teachings. He did choose the right path which is christianity. WHo knows what rev wright has preached for 20 years cause we only got about a 1 min piece of his preaching. People change and preachers are not perfect. Obama said that was not the same guy that married him and his wife. I'm glad you like his middle name too. I've not said anything about your intelligence but i am questioning your flawed facts. Sounds to me like you should be voting dem. this fall to like me based on your income, and probally receiving disability payments for your son which I'm sure was birthed out of the democratic party. I tell you republicans are for the rich and are not for any of that stuff. have you been a republican because your family were all republicans. I think you are voting against yourself. Don't worry though at least i am on your side. I will vote dem for you. I am with you i wish Barack's name was John Smith or something and he was born in like texas on a dang farm or something. At least you might look at the issues and get over his name and where he come from.
 

jwtollett21

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JWTOLLETT21, Lets just say that we agree to disagree and that our votes for president will cancel each other out. Did I like Clinton....no, Did I like carter....no. But I still respected the the office, and tried to support them in what they were trying to accomplish. I don't agree with the "Mcbush" comment. I know that a lot of people think they are voting for the lesser of two evils, but I don't think that Mr Obama can take this country in the direction that it needs to go.

Thats cool man, its ok to disagree. I am sure if we talked enough we got alot in common. I respect the office to. Thats why i pray for w bush or whoever the president is. Although he is the worst president in history i am mature enough to pray for him. Mccain voted 89% of the time with the bush administration so he will just be a copy of what we have now. Thats why i say mcbush. my state will go red regardless of my vote anyway.
 

jwtollett21

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you can read the full article at cnn

Obma is a socialist as where werew the clintons. How did blii c. reduce the deffict so fast or is this all a farce.

THis is what i am talking about man. Search cnn website for the title "White House projects record deficit for 2009"

This is why we cant vote for MCcain people. Same old tactics. nothing new.

President Bush inherited a budget surplus of $128 billion when he took office in 2001 but has since posted a budget deficit every year. View a history of the government deficits and surpluses »

The Bush administration has spent heavily on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and faces a large budget shortfall in tax revenue in part because of Bush's tax cuts and a souring economy.

A Democratic point man on the budget, Sen. Kent Conrad of North Dakota, blasted the administration for its "reckless fiscal policies," blaming the president's tax cuts for driving the government into deficit and saying Bush "will be remembered as the most fiscally irresponsible president in our nation's history." Watch Conrad call the federal debt Bush's legacy »

Conrad, who chairs the Senate's budget committee, accused the president of "squandering" the surplus he inherited from President Bill Clinton and said the increased debt the government has taken on to cover the deficit has undermined the value of the dollar and hurt the overall economy.

"If they gave out Olympic medals for fiscal irresponsibility, President Bush would take the gold, silver and bronze," Conrad said. "With his eight years in office, he will have had the five highest deficits ever recorded. And the highest of those deficits is now projected to come in 2009, as he leaves office."
 

tattedupboy

Thank God I'm alive!
I don't believe you are looking at the whole picture hk. I agree with everybody on this website that obama is not a big pro gun guy but that is not the only issue that is facing america. that is way down on the list of importance. He will not take our guns away, for that matter i don't think anybody every will.


Let's see: He's anti gun, pro abortion, anti drilling, wants to raise taxes, wants to impose a "windfall profits tax" on businesses that make "too much" profit (whatever that means), wants taxpayer-funded health care for everyone, including people who make poor lifestlyle choices (such as smokers, alcoholics, drug abusers, and prostitutes), and refuses to allow drilling in ANWR or offshore as a way to decrease our dependence on foreign oil. If this isn't looking at the whole picture, then I don't know what is.
 

HK4U

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Let's see: He's anti gun, pro abortion, anti drilling, wants to raise taxes, wants to impose a "windfall profits tax" on businesses that make "too much" profit (whatever that means), wants taxpayer-funded health care for everyone, including people who make poor lifestlyle choices (such as smokers, alcoholics, drug abusers, and prostitutes), and refuses to allow drilling in ANWR or offshore as a way to decrease our dependence on foreign oil. If this isn't looking at the whole picture, then I don't know what is.

Yes but he sure does speak good.
 

whofan

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Obama's Facade

Once the press does its job and peels away the facade, I believe that the "Annointed One" will lose--and lose big!

And, I think that the press will eventually look into who he really is. The press really liked Billy Boy, but went after him when the opportunity presented itself. I just hope (I know, hope is not a method) that the press peels away the phony front prior to the election.
 

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