The most likely course for gun control


festus

God Bless Our Troops!!!
1. Obama Signed the CIFTA Treaty (allowing the UN to impose it's will on the people of this great nation.)

2. Franken takes a seat in the Senate and they ratify the treaty using the power of the fillibuster proof majority.(see we did not vote any new anti gun legislation did we...we are not the ones coming for your guns...the UN is...)

3. The UN dispatches peace keepers to the USA in an attempt to enforce a peaceful confiscation of all "illegal" small arms, large knive and sharp pointy sticks.

4. All hell breaks loose when the "racist teabagging rednecks{" (Janeane Garofalo Quote) who cling to guns and religion wake up and smell the coffee.
 

Wolfling68

New member
As many Democrats are pro gun, the majority isn't so filibuster proof. The treaty also has language that specifically allows lawful ownership. UN peacekeepers is a giant leap from there. THIS scenario is HIGHLY unlikely.

However, the concept is valid. I believe they will try to outlaw guns and or ammo, probably one small piece at a time, so we must work dilligently and tirelessly to protect, preserve and restore our rights!!!

UN troops are much more likely to come in due to civil unrest, race riots, etc. We have to watch our behavior a lot more than the other side. (How many of you know Melanie M. Schrey? If the Tea Parties were anti-gun protests how would the headlines read?) We have to have the rational and reasoned responses. We have to be better than they are. We have to work towards the best, and prepare for the worst.
 

festus

God Bless Our Troops!!!
Actually this is very likely

As many Democrats are pro gun, the majority isn't so filibuster proof. The treaty also has language that specifically allows lawful ownership. UN peacekeepers is a giant leap from there. THIS scenario is HIGHLY unlikely.

However, the concept is valid. I believe they will try to outlaw guns and or ammo, probably one small piece at a time, so we must work dilligently and tirelessly to protect, preserve and restore our rights!!!

UN troops are much more likely to come in due to civil unrest, race riots, etc. We have to watch our behavior a lot more than the other side. (How many of you know Melanie M. Schrey? If the Tea Parties were anti-gun protests how would the headlines read?) We have to have the rational and reasoned responses. We have to be better than they are. We have to work towards the best, and prepare for the worst.

Tack the treaty ratification onto a piece of crisis legislation and it's a done deal. Bring in the peacekeepers to help with traffic and hoome to home searches katrina style and you are there.
 

CathyInBlue

Tool Maker
Obama never signed CIFTA. That was Clinton.

We need an Amendment, law, regulation, that if a treaty is not fully ratified under the administration of the president who signed it, it's completely dead, hocus pocus, habeas corpus.
 

Ironhorse

New member
We need an Amendment, law, regulation, that if a treaty is not fully ratified under the administration of the president who signed it, it's completely dead, hocus pocus, habeas corpus.

Cathy... *Shakes head sadly* There you go, suggesting something that makes COMMON SENSE, to be applied in the arena of politics. Don't you know "Politics" and "Common Sense" are mutually exclusive?:sarcastic:
 

festus

God Bless Our Troops!!!
Clinton signed it as well as Obama

Obama never signed CIFTA. That was Clinton.

We need an Amendment, law, regulation, that if a treaty is not fully ratified under the administration of the president who signed it, it's completely dead, hocus pocus, habeas corpus.

Clinton signed it and it was never ratified.
Obama signed it when he was doing the south of the border apology tour and accepting Chavez hand in friendship.
 

Red Hat

New member
Let the Blue Helmets come. You know what happens when the going gets tough, the Blue Helmets pack up and leave. I doubt they would be on the streets a month.
 

festus

God Bless Our Troops!!!
No blue beanies on US soil!

I for one will uphold the constitution and not allow a foriegn army on sovereign US soil. I would gladly fill those blue berets with dog crap and set them on the door step while ringing the door bell and running away!!!:biggrin:

seriously...if it ever comes down to the UN sending people here, it will most likely be a lot of our NATO allies that we trained and it will be a tough fight. It will not be troops from a country renamed last week in Africa or the middle east but Spaniards, Dutch, German...you get the picture. You will also see a lot of russian made APC's because they are terrified of IED's like we faced in Iraq. They will control the food and the population centers because that is the UN way of doing business. They will have ZERO empathy for US citizens because this ain't their country. They will be corrupt because that is also the UN way of doing things.
Remember these???

Sex for food scandal
Food for oil scandal
Darfar
Somalia

All UN bungles that set a precedent for how they operate
 

Ektarr

Dedicated Infidel
The UN is largely ineffective anyway in the Grand Galactic scheme of things, as evidenced by past performance. For example, from Wikipedia:
In 1990, the Tutsi-dominated RPF invaded Rwanda from Uganda. Some members allied with the military dictatorship government of Habyarimana responded in 1993 to the RPF invasion with a radio station that began anti-Tutsi propaganda and with programs against Tutsis, who it claimed were trying to re-enslave the Hutus. Nevertheless, after 3 years of fighting and multiple prior "cease-fires," the government and the RPF signed a "final" cease-fire agreement in August 1993, known as the Arusha accords, in order to form a power sharing government. Neither side appeared ready to accept the accords, however, and fighting between the two sides continued unabated. By that time, over 1.5 million civilians had left their homes to flee the selective massacres against Hutus by the RPF army. They were living in camps, the most famous of them was called Nyacyonga.

The situation worsened when the first elected Burundian president, Melchior Ndadaye, a Hutu, was assassinated by the Burundian Tutsi-dominated army in October 1993. In Burundi, a fierce civil war then erupted between Tutsi and Hutu following the army's massacre, and tens of thousands, both Hutu and Tutsi, were killed in this conflict. This conflict spilled over the border into Rwanda and caused the fragile Rwandan Arusha accords to quickly crumble. Tutsi-Hutu hatred rapidly intensified. Although the UN sent a peacekeeping force named the United Nations Assistance Mission for Rwanda (UNAMIR), it was underfunded, under-staffed, and largely ineffective in the face of a two country civil-war, as detailed in Lieutenant-General Roméo Dallaire's book Shake Hands with the Devil. Dallaire requested additional troops and changes to the rules of engagement to prevent the coming genocide. The UN denied his request.
As I recall, reports at the time were of UN 'Soldiers' standing around while pillagers raped, burned and murdered their victims with abandon. A fine example of World leadership!
 

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