Will there be Refunds if OBama takes office and voids all CC permits?


I posted this in another post and some said it's such a huge issue that it should have it's own thread. OK So if Obama takes office and banns all CC and voids all CC permits will there be state refunds issued? As i only paid 10 dollars for 4 years i do not really care as i only hold on permit. But some people have them in 10 or more states and that adds up plus in some states a permit is 100 to 150. On top of that you have to pay to take training and so on and so on. Or will the states be aloud to rip us off and keep the money and we will be told to piss off?
 

tattedupboy

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My guess is no. Even is such a plan were implemented, however, I don't see how that could possibly happen.
 
LOL what will happen to the NRA if Obama takes office and starts all the gun stuff he said he would? LOL that would put a end to the NRA as we know it. Better yet what will become of our Little community on here and what will happen to USAcarry is CC is banned?
 

tattedupboy

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LOL what will happen to the NRA if Obama takes office and starts all the gun stuff he said he would? LOL that would put a end to the NRA as we know it. Better yet what will become of our Little community on here and what will happen to USAcarry is CC is banned?

The way I see it, Obama is exactly what we need to make the NRA as strong as it needs to be. I don't see it becoming weaker under an Obama presidency. Quite the contrary, maybe an Obama presidency will be what it takes to make gun owners stand up and say "Enough is enough!"
 

MP3Mogul

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Even if he's elected, he can change the laws, but not retroactively.

Besides, even "IF" he's elected, the only change will be the AWB, which will return... until the next republican president...
 

tattedupboy

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Even if he's elected, he can change the laws, but not retroactively.

Besides, even "IF" he's elected, the only change will be the AWB, which will return... until the next republican president...

Well, hopefully, the NRA won't stab us in the back on this issue like it did last time.
 
LOL thats a joke how can they call them AW? Ar-15's are single shot only unless you have a FFL and get a class 3 gun with full auto. I want a Ar-15 but lack the funds at this time and will have to make due with my M&P and maybe a shotgun. If this was the 1700's or even the 1800's A person running for the big P who wanted to do away with fire arms would be laughed out of office.. On top of that Why is he is a rush to restore voting rights to the BG's? Is he hoping they will vote for him? I mean Fucking A ( sorry for the use of the F word but had to). It's like this guy has every thing backward he wants to help and protect the BG's and Fuck over the good guys. Idk about you but if i was a bad guy i would be chopping at the bit for the CC ban to happen. So i could go back to robbing people and know they are not armed any more. The whole thing is wack.
 

kwo51

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State of emergency declared and all ccw is gone .Obama brings in the un to cleans house puts in shera law and that is it.You are judged by the friends you keep and obama is a insulate to all Americans!!!!! Some are just to blind to see it.Why have the muslins not call for obamas death like the coran requires of converts? THINK STUPID.:hang3:
 

PolarBear

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Slade797

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State of emergency declared and all ccw is gone .Obama brings in the un to cleans house puts in shera law and that is it.You are judged by the friends you keep and obama is a insulate to all Americans!!!!! Some are just to blind to see it.Why have the muslins not call for obamas death like the coran requires of converts? THINK STUPID.:hang3:


Sweet zombie jesus.

You think Obama will institute sharia law? You think all the "muslins" are out to get you?


Again: Sweet zombie jesus.

PS: "Insulate to all Americans?"
 
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harvey13118

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NO-BAMA decides no one in America can own a gun, a concealed carry, an AR-15, AK-47 or what ever. Congress supports and backs him up they pass the law. We are another Australia. It is not far fetched. The new Supreme Court Reviews the 2nd and says NO PEOPLE DONOT HAVE THE RTKBA.

Barrack, Nancy and Harry would be 3 of the most dangerous commies in this country, to our freedoms, if he is elected. And you probably get TAXED because the government has to seize and destroy your guns. Get a refund? ROTFLMAO!

Harvey
 

tattedupboy

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NO-BAMA decides no one in America can own a gun, a concealed carry, an AR-15, AK-47 or what ever. Congress supports and backs him up they pass the law. We are another Australia. It is not far fetched. The new Supreme Court Reviews the 2nd and says NO PEOPLE DONOT HAVE THE RTKBA.

Barrack, Nancy and Harry would be 3 of the most dangerous commies in this country, to our freedoms, if he is elected. And you probably get TAXED because the government has to seize and destroy your guns. Get a refund? ROTFLMAO!

Harvey

Actually, this is extremely far fetched. I know that Obama is a gun hater, but my goodness, some of the things people on this site believe he'll do are way out there to say the least. While I don't expect him to do anything such as repeal NFA, I'm confident that I'll still have my guns and CCW permit when he leaves office.
 

Slade797

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Actually, this is extremely far fetched. I know that Obama is a gun hater, but my goodness, some of the things people on this site believe he'll do are way out there to say the least. While I don't expect him to do anything such as repeal NFA, I'm confident that I'll still have my guns and CCW permit when he leaves office.

+1

I am not confident we will have a pot to piss in, but the supreme court just rendered up a decision that supports gun rights; that same court will likely be around long after Obama has left office.
 

HK4U

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+1

I am not confident we will have a pot to piss in, but the supreme court just rendered up a decision that supports gun rights; that same court will likely be around long after Obama has left office.

I am not so sure. There are a couple of Justices that may retire in a couple of years and considering the age of some of the others the prospect of 4 and perhaps 8 years of Obama does not bode well for our freedoms. Lest we forget the ruling was by one vote only.
 

HK4U

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For those that think it can't happen here I remind you once again.

"Since March 9, 1933, the United states has been in a state of national emergency. A majority of the people of the United States have their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years (now 72 years) freedoms and governmental procedures, guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought forth by states of national emergency."
Senate Report 93-549 (1973).

"The truth of the matter is that you do have those standby provisions, and the statutory emergency plans are there whereby you could, in the name of stopping terrorism, apprehend, invoke the military, and arrest Americans and hold them in detention camps."
U.S. Representative Henry Gonzalez, August 29, 1994

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of "liberalism" they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." Norman Thomas, for many years U.S. Socialist Presidential candidate.

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."
- David Rockefeller



I especially like the following quote from comrade Kissinger


"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991
 

tattedupboy

Thank God I'm alive!
For those that think it can't happen here I remind you once again.

"Since March 9, 1933, the United states has been in a state of national emergency. A majority of the people of the United States have their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years (now 72 years) freedoms and governmental procedures, guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought forth by states of national emergency."
Senate Report 93-549 (1973).

"The truth of the matter is that you do have those standby provisions, and the statutory emergency plans are there whereby you could, in the name of stopping terrorism, apprehend, invoke the military, and arrest Americans and hold them in detention camps."
U.S. Representative Henry Gonzalez, August 29, 1994

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of "liberalism" they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." Norman Thomas, for many years U.S. Socialist Presidential candidate.

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."
- David Rockefeller



I especially like the following quote from comrade Kissinger


"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

But, since Obama is so compassionate toward the have nots, he's going to have all license fees directed toward the U.N., poverty programs, and his universal health care program.
 

HK4U

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But, since Obama is so compassionate toward the have nots, he's going to have all license fees directed toward the U.N., poverty programs, and his universal health care program.

The way things are going I may be one of the have nots before long so maybe I will be o.k.
 

Scarecrow

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Actually, this is extremely far fetched. I know that Obama is a gun hater, but my goodness, some of the things people on this site believe he'll do are way out there to say the least. While I don't expect him to do anything such as repeal NFA, I'm confident that I'll still have my guns and CCW permit when he leaves office.

let's just pray this is true.. just can't help but crindge every time I hear that man talk..
 

Shoots Running

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Let's not go overboard, gents. CCWs are a state issue. Not Federal. Such shenanigans as mentioned would bring a firestorm of protest and possible impeachment. All these dire "predictions" depend on the assumption that all Americans would just sit back and let such things transpire. That simply ain't the case.

By strange coincidence, these doomsday scenarios of looming tyranny are just the sort of events that the Founding Fathers devised the 2A to prevent, or at least redress.

Besides, he's gonna lose.
 

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