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    Travel through Washington State

    Although I ALWAYS repeat ALWAYS check out info received online, I'm looking for information on both Open Carry and transportation in a vehicle through the state. If you could include links that will be appreciated I assure you. I think that I've got it down, but you never really know, now do you? Thanks & Later,
    Dennis in Idaho
    "Those who talk, Don't Do. Those who do, Don't Talk."
    Dennis in Idaho
    "Citizenship requires three boxes: "The Ballot Box,
    The Jury Box, and the Cartridge Box." Fredrick Douglas

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    Washington State Frequently Asked Questions About Open Carry
    Washington Gun Rights Pamphlet
    The basics:
    You can OC in WA w/o a permit. If you don't have a CPL for WA, then the gun must be unloaded/mag removed in car/bus/ferry/motorcycle. In WA to have a loaded gun in or on any vehicle OC, or CC you must have a CPL. The gun, and ammo don't have to be stored in separate compartments.

  4. I know my CPL in Washington allows me to carry legally i Idaho. I THINK Idaho and Washington have reciprocity. Check with the Attorney General's office..... the URL is not intuitive, so google washington state attorney general. I think its Office of Attorney General Bob Ferguson, but could have it mixed up.

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    Idaho does NOT have reciprocity with Washington State. If it did I wouldn't have a problem. :-) Thanks for your help.

    Dennis in Idaho
    "Those who talk, Don't do. Those who do, Don't Talk!"
    Dennis in Idaho
    "Citizenship requires three boxes: "The Ballot Box,
    The Jury Box, and the Cartridge Box." Fredrick Douglas

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLeeHarley View Post
    Although I ALWAYS repeat ALWAYS check out info received online, I'm looking for information on both Open Carry and transportation in a vehicle through the state. If you could include links that will be appreciated I assure you. I think that I've got it down, but you never really know, now do you? Thanks & Later,
    Dennis in Idaho
    "Those who talk, Don't Do. Those who do, Don't Talk."
    Do you have a recognized permit or not? Without a permit:

    Outside the vehicle, loaded open carry is allowed everywhere concealed carry would be allowed except on the premises of a school (or within 1000' feet of a school due to Federal law). Inside the vehicle the gun must be unloaded and can be anywhere inside the vehicle except for concealed on the person. In order to comply with the Federal law, the gun must be in a locked case when within 1000' of a school.

    No loaded long guns in the vehicle at all, that's in the hunting regulations.

    This is the only link you will need:
    Chapter 9.41 RCW: FIREARMS AND DANGEROUS WEAPONS

    Particularly 9.41.050, 060, 280, 290 and 300.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golddigger14s View Post
    You can OC in WA w/o a permit. If you don't have a CPL for WA, then the gun must be unloaded/mag removed in car/bus/ferry/motorcycle.
    Actually, loaded open carry on the Washington State Ferries is legal without a CPL so long as the person is outside their vehicle which is on the ferry. Washington State Ferries are defined as part of the highway system in Washington that carries vehicles.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    No sir I do not have a recognized permit for Washington State. Thanks for your information. Later,

    Dennis in Idaho
    "Those who talk, Don't do. Those who do, Don't Talk!"
    Dennis in Idaho
    "Citizenship requires three boxes: "The Ballot Box,
    The Jury Box, and the Cartridge Box." Fredrick Douglas

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Actually, loaded open carry on the Washington State Ferries is legal without a CPL so long as the person is outside their vehicle which is on the ferry. Washington State Ferries are defined as part of the highway system in Washington that carries vehicles.
    I respect your input/info, but are you sure about this one? If I'm not mistaken, the ferries are like riding a bus requiring a CPL even when OC'ing.
    RCW 46.70.011: Definitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golddigger14s View Post
    I respect your input/info, but are you sure about this one? If I'm not mistaken, the ferries are like riding a bus requiring a CPL even when OC'ing.
    RCW 46.70.011: Definitions.
    Chapter 47.17 RCW: STATE HIGHWAY ROUTES

    RCW 47.17.080
    State route No. 20.
    A state highway to be known as state route number 20 is established as follows:
    Beginning at a junction with state route number 101 in the vicinity of Discovery Bay, thence northeasterly via the most feasible route to Port Townsend; also
    From the state ferry terminal at Port Townsend via the state ferry system northeasterly to the state ferry terminal at Keystone; also
    From the Keystone ferry dock on Whidbey Island, thence northeasterly by the most feasible route by way of Deception Pass, Burlington, Sedro Woolley, Concrete, Newhalem, Winthrop, Twisp, Okanogan, Tonasket, Republic, Kettle Falls, Colville, and Tiger; thence southerly and southeasterly to a junction with state route number 2 at Newport.
    If you search the opencarry.org Washington state forum regarding this topic you will find an email response from the Washington DOT that verifies that the Washington State Ferry is part of the actual highway, and just like other parts of the highway, a CPL is only required for a loaded handgun inside your vehicle which is being moved on that portion of the highway not for a pedestrian on that highway which is what you become when you exit your vehicle on the ferry.

    Also notice this definition of vehicle:
    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=47.04.010

    (42) "Vehicle." Every device capable of being moved upon a highway and in, upon, or by which any person or property is or may be transported or drawn upon a highway, excepting power wheelchairs, as defined in RCW 46.04.415, or devices moved by human or animal power or used exclusively upon stationary rails or tracks.
    In this context, your car is the vehicle, and the highway that it is capable of being moved upon is the ferry. The state ferry cannot be a device capable of being moved upon a highway and be part of that highway at the same time.

    Also this definition from the same section:
    (36) "State highway." Every highway as herein defined, or part thereof, which has been designated as a state highway, or branch thereof, by legislative enactment;
    The ferries are defined as part of the state highway route they run on.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    You do not mention whether you are traveling through Washington or staying to visit. This is an important distinction. If you were traveling through the state the Federal Firearms Act, located in Title 18 USC 926A is what you want to read: 18 U.S.C. 926A - Interstate transportation of firearms

    If you are visiting Washington and wish to carry then this is quoted from the Traveler's Guide to the Firearms Laws of the Fifty States:
    Persons without recognized permits:Loaded handguns may not be carried anywhere in a vehicle. Such weapons must be unloaded and secured in gun cases specifically designed for transporting handguns. Loaded magazines may be carried in the passenger compartment as long as they are not inserted into the handgun.
    While on foot, a person without a license may carry a loaded, concealed handgun while engaged in outdoor activities such as hunting, fishing, camping, and target shooting. Open carry of a loaded handgun is legitimate as long as the non-permittee secures the weapon in a visible belt holster. Washington's preemptive law prevents most local regulation of this carry mode. But cities retain the power to regulate carry by non-permittees in stadiums and convention centers.


    Also, you may apply for a non-resident permit with any police chief or county sheriff to attain a non-resident license. This will allow you to carry concealed.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
    ~ Benjamin Franklin (maybe)

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