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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    As long as you don't meander IL is not your problem, what do you plan on doing with your gun in SC? if you wear it on your belt in SC you will probably have issues with law enforcement.
    I will have to keep it stowed away while in SC. SC does not honor my resident MN or non-res FL.

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  3. You can find the newest law changes for Illinois from the Illinois state police site at

    http://www.isp.state.il.us/firearms/ccw/ccw-faq.cfm

    Look under the heading Are out-of-state Concealed Carry permit holders granted reciprocity in Illinois?

    It says " out of state residents are granted a limited exception to lawfully carry a concealed firearm within a vehicle if they are eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence and are not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law. This rule becomes effective immediately.

    If the non-resident leaves his/her vehicle unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle in accordance with subsection (b) of Section 65 of the Firearm Concealed Carry Act."

    Check for yourself

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using USA Carry mobile app

  4. That is what I was told as well

  5. Help with California travel

    Going through California this summer. Have a gun safe attached to rear of passenger seat (key lock) and gun safe attached to rear seat in back of SUV (key lock). Will have unloaded Glock in one of them and loaded clip in the other one. Based on California law I know this is perfectly legal. My question is on the destination clause where you are suppose to be going to a range or something. Is it a problem if your objective is to drive through the state to go home to your state? I have concealed carry permits that cover me for the other states I am going through. It's just California I'm concerned about. Also if stopped in California and asked or not asked are you required to declare you have a unloaded gun locked in a gun safe and the ammo locked in another safe? I would think the cops would be required to get a warrant to look in my gun safes. I was a LEO in the early 80's in Kansas and this crap was never a concern or issue but now I want to drive through a communist country and still have the ability to protect myself.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Pitbull11 View Post
    Also if stopped in California and asked or not asked are you required to declare you have a unloaded gun locked in a gun safe and the ammo locked in another safe? I would think the cops would be required to get a warrant to look in my gun safes. I was a LEO in the early 80's in Kansas and this crap was never a concern or issue but now I want to drive through a communist country and still have the ability to protect myself.
    You are not required to inform the officer of the presence of guns but if they ask, by California law, you must allow them to inspect the guns or you can be arrested :
    CA Codes (pen:25850)

    PENAL CODE
    SECTION 25850




    25850. (a) A person is guilty of carrying a loaded firearm when the
    person carries a loaded firearm on the person or in a vehicle while
    in any public place or on any public street in an incorporated city
    or in any public place or on any public street in a prohibited area
    of unincorporated territory.
    (b) In order to determine whether or not a firearm is loaded for
    the purpose of enforcing this section, peace officers are authorized
    to examine any firearm carried by anyone on the person or in a
    vehicle while in any public place or on any public street in an
    incorporated city or prohibited area of an unincorporated territory.
    Refusal to allow a peace officer to inspect a firearm pursuant to
    this section constitutes probable cause for arrest for violation of
    this section.

    (c) Carrying a loaded firearm in violation of this section is
    punishable, as follows:
    (1) Where the person previously has been convicted of any felony,
    or of any crime made punishable by a provision listed in Section
    16580, as a felony.
    (2) Where the firearm is stolen and the person knew or had
    reasonable cause to believe that it was stolen, as a felony.
    (3) Where the person is an active participant in a criminal street
    gang, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 186.22, under the
    Street Terrorism Enforcement and Prevention Act (Chapter 11
    (commencing with Section 186.20) of Title 7 of Part 1), as a felony.
    (4) Where the person is not in lawful possession of the firearm,
    or is within a class of persons prohibited from possessing or
    acquiring a firearm pursuant to Chapter 2 (commencing with Section
    29800) or Chapter 3 (commencing with Section 29900) of Division 9 of
    this title, or Section 8100 or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions
    Code, as a felony.
    (5) Where the person has been convicted of a crime against a
    person or property, or of a narcotics or dangerous drug violation, by
    imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170, or by
    imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed one year, by a fine not
    to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that imprisonment
    and fine.
    (6) Where the person is not listed with the Department of Justice
    pursuant to Section 11106 as the registered owner of the handgun, by
    imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170, or by
    imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed one year, or by a fine
    not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or both that fine and
    imprisonment.
    (7) In all cases other than those specified in paragraphs (1) to
    (6), inclusive, as a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment in a
    county jail not to exceed one year, by a fine not to exceed one
    thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that imprisonment and fine.
    (d) (1) Every person convicted under this section who has
    previously been convicted of an offense enumerated in Section 23515,
    or of any crime made punishable under a provision listed in Section
    16580, shall serve a term of at least three months in a county jail,
    or, if granted probation or if the execution or imposition of
    sentence is suspended, it shall be a condition thereof that the
    person be imprisoned for a period of at least three months.
    (2) The court shall apply the three-month minimum sentence except
    in unusual cases where the interests of justice would best be served
    by granting probation or suspending the imposition or execution of
    sentence without the minimum imprisonment required in this section or
    by granting probation or suspending the imposition or execution of
    sentence with conditions other than those set forth in this section,
    in which case, the court shall specify on the record and shall enter
    on the minutes the circumstances indicating that the interests of
    justice would best be served by that disposition.
    (e) A violation of this section that is punished by imprisonment
    in a county jail not exceeding one year shall not constitute a
    conviction of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding
    one year for the purposes of determining federal firearms
    eligibility under Section 922(g)(1) of Title 18 of the United States
    Code.
    (f) Nothing in this section, or in Article 3 (commencing with
    Section 25900) or Article 4 (commencing with Section 26000), shall
    preclude prosecution under Chapter 2 (commencing with Section 29800)
    or Chapter 3 (commencing with Section 29900) of Division 9 of this
    title, Section 8100 or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, or
    any other law with a greater penalty than this section.
    (g) Notwithstanding paragraphs (2) and (3) of subdivision (a) of
    Section 836, a peace officer may make an arrest without a warrant:
    (1) When the person arrested has violated this section, although
    not in the officer's presence.
    (2) Whenever the officer has reasonable cause to believe that the
    person to be arrested has violated this section, whether or not this
    section has, in fact, been violated.
    (h) A peace officer may arrest a person for a violation of
    paragraph (6) of subdivision (c), if the peace officer has probable
    cause to believe that the person is carrying a handgun in violation
    of this section and that person is not listed with the Department of
    Justice pursuant to paragraph (1) of subdivision (c) of Section 11106
    as the registered owner of that handgun.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

  7. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    You are not required to inform the officer of the presence of guns but if they ask, by California law, you must allow them to inspect the guns or you can be arrested :
    I find it interesting that a law like this that requires you to incriminate yourself hasn't been challenged.
    the 5th amendment is still in place in CA, isn't it?
    WARNING:
    This post may contain material offensive to those who lack wit, humor, common sense and/or supporting factual or anecdotal evidence.

  8. I kind of feel with a Texas plate on my vehicle and Marine vet. Frame I might be a target for that question. Also I agree about 5th adm. You need a warrant from a judge to search a locked compartment in a vehicle without probable cause and by requiring me to state and prove that I have a unloaded gun in my locked safes is a violation of my civil rights. Wonder what the costs would be for not informing you have a locked unloaded gun in that locked safe? Versus letting a cop on the side of the road take your gun from one locked case and your loaded clip from another case while your handcuffed on the side of the road? Wonder how many California cops are going to lock them back up, take your cuffs off and send you on your way versus just claim your gun was loaded? Part of my concern is that the gun safes would be easily detected if the car was quickly searched. If I had a cubby that I could put the small gun safes that would require a more invasive search I would not be as concerned.

  9. the AZ, FL, UT carry permits are easy to get through the mail.

    just about all states honor DD214 for Vets.

    FAX Congress fro 50 state concealed carry, 202-225-0704 ,202-228-0285.

    S498 and HR2959.

  10. #19
    Hi, I am new to the forum. Thank you for sharing the information.

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