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  1. WE THE PEOPLE, The Constitution of the Unitied States, The Bill of rights,WW2, you ever hear any of these words.
    Your post mad me madder than I have been in a long time. Police officers are sworn employees of a government entity, Do you remember what they swear to? do You know what the police are sworn to uphold? The law!
    Not police procedures not to protect your fellow officers from the law. THE LAW!!! We the people.
    The law belongs to all of us not just boys in blue. Guess what (if you were ever a cop) guess what happen if your were charged with a crime as a policeofficer? you go to federal court and a civil judge. You don't get to wear a uniform or carry a gun your just a citizen and if you were found guilt you went to a federal prison. We may not know the ways of the jedi-COPS but we know the law, you remember what you swore to up hold. You list your job as a armed security, well your arrogant, your anger is very open so if your were a cop your not now you lose your job? we have every right to see how the police serve us , You do agree right? the police should serve and protect? Well guess what cops who think they only have to fear or respect the top cop. forget He owes his job to a mayor or other offical we elect. because of tapes a lot of cops who think like you will go to jail. your conduct is reviewed by us? any american can make a complaint vs a policeofficer and if you think that the other police will always watch your back and lie guess again. In Federal court you guys sing like any other crook. I am so mad at your ****. you know the best police dept as far as stopping crime was the Nazies.
    We americans and the world went to war with them and kicked their ass. You are so out there that you must have worked in canton. That cop was thinking he was god too look where it got him. we the people are going to make sure he gets his day in court
    By the way I was a cop and I went to the academy and served 5 years on a force in the usa and 6 years overseas.
    got hurt and now too old to serve, No cop i knew or saw would talk like you a real cop knows there are bad cops out there who need oversight. OH and your tag line is **** we came we saw we kicked their ass ect I Bet your overweight lived at home with your mom. and a virgin. I was a Marine sgt too i know about serving.
    go watch your porn and play call of duty cause you live in a dream world. don't share it with us. PLEASE

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    There there there bunky unclench those fists and dry those eyes.

    First off take your meds and put the flag away you are waving.
    It is clear you are anti police. Pay attention to the post,
    POLICE answer to POLICE not some holier than thou civilian.(Like YOU)
    That is what internal affairs is for, NOT YOU.
    that is what department policy is for NOT YOU
    And I could care less how mad you get,its the way it is.
    Be a good citizen and mind your business. You have NO business
    being in any oversight committee.

    Insofar as your juvenile comment about living with mommy,
    please. I dont live with my mommy. I ride yours.
    Now have a cup of cocoa and have mommy tuck you in and dry your tears.
    Maybe when you wake up in the morning you will be in a better frame of mindbut I wont hold my breath on that one.
    And as far as my signature is concerned(while I dont owe you an explanation,I felt you should know. It was a saying coined by one of our Watch Commanders for the public housing details in Chicago. Dont like it? Oh well.
    When you reply with your masturbatory rantings (and you WILL respond,people like you cant take a spanking and shut up) Try to stay focused on Civilian Review Boards.Not WW2 or some tangent that you trip off on in your rant oops I mean reply.
    And like I said, you want to oversee police or be in their business then become the police. Have mommy sign a note saying its "ok" for you to take the tests. When you become one, immediately apply for Internal Affairs. Then you can critique and arm chair quarterback police actions all you want. Until then,MYOB.

    Night night bunky.
    " We came,We Saw,We kicked their asses and when the screaming stopped,the blood dried,the smoke cleared and the dust settled...PEACE WAS RESTORED"

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    Cops with attitudes and no respect for the taxpayers who hire them are exactly why Cops are disrespected so often. Those with bad attitudes need be removed. Those who think it is cute to verbally abuse "civilians" need find another line of work. I've always had reasonable interactions with cops but I guarantee, if I ran into the power mad morons who think they make the laws and they are the only ones who should be armed, it would become my life's work to get them fired.

    And childish whining on both sides contributes to the bad opinions that many of the foolish anti-gunners hold and certainly doesn't help our need and goal of actually following the Constitution including the Second Amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cortchubby View Post
    I do not believe that a "civilian review" panel can fairly and neutrally and objectively look at a police related incident. They are NOT the police and should NOT be allowed to interview,interrogate,or otherwise investigate the police.Nor should they have ANY say whatsoever in the disciplinary actions of the officer(s) involved.
    Well it seems that Internal Affairs or Internal reviews can't do the job either. Our court system trusts the citizens for jury duty so why shouldn't the police trust a citizens review? Is it because we haven't been taught the art of beating a suspect with a night stick while screaming stop resisting? You sir strike me as having that us ver's them attitude. How dare those lowly citizens think they can review us. This kind of attitude is part of the problem. What are you trying to hide?
    Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress;
    but I repeat myself.
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    I have absolutely nothing to hide. In my city they tried a Civilian Review board. Unfortunately for them they were severely limited. It was found later that they were politically placed with an agenda from the alderman. Much like the agenda of Lauren Cnare the Alder of Madison her anti gun mind block.
    As far as Im concerned,they can have 10 Civilian Review boards. I report to my Lieutenant. Period.
    There is nothing in my contract that says I have to cooperate with a CRB. And I wont. Maybe Im like this because my city is far more political and corrupt than yours. (Richard Daley ring a bell?) Im sure in ssmaller areas a CRB would be useful. A liaison between Police Management and the public. A buffer if you will. I would imagine with proper screening and what not, they might even be an asset.
    " We came,We Saw,We kicked their asses and when the screaming stopped,the blood dried,the smoke cleared and the dust settled...PEACE WAS RESTORED"

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    Quote Originally Posted by cortchubby View Post
    As far as Im concerned,they can have 10 Civilian Review boards. I report to my Lieutenant. Period.
    There is nothing in my contract that says I have to cooperate with a CRB. And I wont.
    Police Officers again ARE civilians, they are not subject to the UCMJ like military personel. Also Police Officers need to be employed on an at-will basis just like most other profesions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cortchubby View Post
    I have absolutely nothing to hide. In my city they tried a Civilian Review board. Unfortunately for them they were severely limited. It was found later that they were politically placed with an agenda from the alderman. Much like the agenda of Lauren Cnare the Alder of Madison her anti gun mind block.
    As far as Im concerned,they can have 10 Civilian Review boards. I report to my Lieutenant. Period.
    There is nothing in my contract that says I have to cooperate with a CRB. And I wont. Maybe Im like this because my city is far more political and corrupt than yours. (Richard Daley ring a bell?) Im sure in ssmaller areas a CRB would be useful. A liaison between Police Management and the public. A buffer if you will. I would imagine with proper screening and what not, they might even be an asset.


    I do not claim that all cops are bad. Having family members that served on the force and working with them in a official capacity when I was a medic I have seen both good and bad. Most were pleasant to work with and respect was a two way street however I have seen them IMO cross the line before.

    I am not suggesting that police report to a CRB either. They should report to their SO. The CRB should participate in a AAR type capacity if a complaint is filed or the death of a suspect occurs. If the CRB or an internal review is politically motivated, biased or tainted in any way then it defeats the purpose and is harmful to the overall health and well being of the community for which they serve.
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    but I repeat myself.
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    .But true enough most civilian review boards ARE tainted.Some far more than others. Good luck getting yours going. Contact your local Alder. Im sure they will be more than happy to assist you.
    " We came,We Saw,We kicked their asses and when the screaming stopped,the blood dried,the smoke cleared and the dust settled...PEACE WAS RESTORED"

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    the only thing I dont agree at all with reviewing the death of a suspect. Be it a shoot or while in custody that is a matter for (in your case) the DOJ(assuming you are in Wisconsin) and under NO circumstance should they have investigatory powers over a police related duty related shooting. Unless they have taken the EXACT SAME gun and use of force training as the officer involved,you cant honestly expect them to be able to make a fair impartial judgement. Aside from that sure.....you can review all you want. After my Lt clears it for you to see.
    " We came,We Saw,We kicked their asses and when the screaming stopped,the blood dried,the smoke cleared and the dust settled...PEACE WAS RESTORED"

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    Thumbs down More Badge Polishing (Colored text added for clarity)

    Quote Originally Posted by cortchubby View Post
    you cant honestly expect them to come up with fair impartial judgement that all us police officers agree with, regular folks be damned. Aside from that sure.....you can review all you want. After my Lt clears it so you only see info that we want you to see.
    This all sounds like more badge polishing as NavyLCDR would say.

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