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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by TekGreg View Post
    -06, You didn't mention what caliber she was shooting, but I start every new shooter, male or female, with .22 LR and a heavy gun so that they have absolutely no fear and they (and I) can see what they are doing themselves that cannot be attributed to the gun or the caliber. I only "graduate" people that can properly shoot a .22 and have solved any inherent problems established by my target analysis guide. Besides, .22 is so much cheaper to shoot while getting someone used to all of the right way to do things!

    Also, if it is the noise that is scaring her and causing the flinch, use the small, in-ear earplugs WITH headphones. You will have to touch her shoulder and yell to be heard, but the gun will become much less intimidating when it can't be heard. It's a mouse gun if it doesn't roar!

    Good luck on keeping her in the sport and I hope she enjoys it more!
    I'm the flincher!

    I've been shooting a .22lr for months. I have no issues with it. I can shoot fairly tight groups with it as well. I already double plug! I think I just need to shoot more to get over it. It's a HK P30 9mm and I haven't had it very long. The one thing that has helped me the most was Bill Grays Bump Drill. It helped me see what a surprise break really was. When I don't anticipate the break, the shot goes where I want it to. I try hard to focus on the front sight, but I end up watching the hammer move and I can tell when the shot is going to break.

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  3. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by ulatek View Post
    I would just like to say I've seen more and more women at the range lately both shooting and purchasing firearms. I am really thrilled to see more women taking the steps to protect themselves and their families. I am really happy to see everyone out practicing with their chosen firearm as well and not just letting it sit in a drawer. It's important to be comfortable with the weapon and not just hope to be ready if something goes wrong.

    Stay sharp,

    Chuck
    Real men aren't threatened by women not only knowing how to defend themselves but also enjoying themselves on the range and finding the fun in the sport just as we have! The day should be long gone of the YouTube videos that show three drunken (male) idiots handing a very frail woman a .44 Desert Eagle and laughing when it recoils into her forehead. I have always wanted to see her turn that hand cannon on them and watch them run for the hills!

    I think it's real men that step up and answer questions and are helpful to the women on the range and make them want to come back. Keep the women coming back and make our sport that much more beautiful and challenging!
    Edmund Burke: “The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.” – 1784 speech. Taken from Founding Fathers Notes. "The unarmed man is not just defenseless -- he is also contemptible." Machiavelli

  4. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by jeepgal1961 View Post
    I'm the flincher!

    I've been shooting a .22lr for months. I have no issues with it. I can shoot fairly tight groups with it as well. I already double plug! I think I just need to shoot more to get over it. It's a HK P30 9mm and I haven't had it very long. The one thing that has helped me the most was Bill Grays Bump Drill. It helped me see what a surprise break really was. When I don't anticipate the break, the shot goes where I want it to. I try hard to focus on the front sight, but I end up watching the hammer move and I can tell when the shot is going to break.
    Hey, JeepGal! Thanks for responding! Sounds like your trainer is doing everything right! The reason he is advocating point shooting drills is because you are looking at the target but the gun is not in your sight line, so you cannot see any part of the gun, therefore you are unable to anticipate nothing. Besides point shooting being a good skill in the event that you are not able to take the time to aim, it will keep you from looking at the gun. You might try it just long enough to see if it breaks your flinching problem.

    Your other option would be to rent or borrow a Glock or other hammerless pistol - if it has no hammer, you can't stare at it! This will break you quickly as your vision has to remain on the front sight/target as it's supposed to and none of the gun parts will "telegraph" its intent.
    Edmund Burke: “The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.” – 1784 speech. Taken from Founding Fathers Notes. "The unarmed man is not just defenseless -- he is also contemptible." Machiavelli

  5. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by TekGreg View Post
    Hey, JeepGal! Thanks for responding! Sounds like your trainer is doing everything right! The reason he is advocating point shooting drills is because you are looking at the target but the gun is not in your sight line, so you cannot see any part of the gun, therefore you are unable to anticipate nothing. Besides point shooting being a good skill in the event that you are not able to take the time to aim, it will keep you from looking at the gun. You might try it just long enough to see if it breaks your flinching problem.

    Your other option would be to rent or borrow a Glock or other hammerless pistol - if it has no hammer, you can't stare at it! This will break you quickly as your vision has to remain on the front sight/target as it's supposed to and none of the gun parts will "telegraph" its intent.
    Now I really have a reason to buy that M&P :) I have actually been thinking about a striker fired pistol so that I can't see the hammer fall.

  6. #15

    Thumbs up Rimfire Shooters

    Quote Originally Posted by jeepgal1961 View Post
    I've been shooting a .22lr for months. I have no issues with it. I can shoot fairly tight groups with it as well. I already double plug! I think I just need to shoot more to get over it. It's a HK P30 9mm and I haven't had it very long. The one thing that has helped me the most was Bill Grays Bump Drill. It helped me see what a surprise break really was. When I don't anticipate the break, the shot goes where I want it to. I try hard to focus on the front sight, but I end up watching the hammer move and I can tell when the shot is going to break.
    And they were bringing rimfire shooters to his shooting range that he might let them get a lane on his rifle range, and the disciples rebuked them. But when Jesus saw it, he was indignant and said to them, "Let the rimfire shooters come to me and set up in an empty lane on my shooting range; do not hinder them, for to such belongs at the gunclub of God. Truly, I say to you, whoever does not practice at my rifle range like these rimfire shooters shall not become a member of the gunclub of God." And he took them in his arms and blessed them, and gave them a twenty percent off coupon for their next purchase at Cabelas.

  7. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by jeepgal1961 View Post
    Now I really have a reason to buy that M&P :) I have actually been thinking about a striker fired pistol so that I can't see the hammer fall.
    Tada! See there? You can always find a training reason to purchase a new handgun! Between a hammerless design and some point shooting or moving target drills, you should be flinch-free in no time! Also, let us know what worked for you so we can all learn what to use for the next person that has a similar problem. We all need to keep learning!
    Edmund Burke: “The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.” – 1784 speech. Taken from Founding Fathers Notes. "The unarmed man is not just defenseless -- he is also contemptible." Machiavelli

  8. #17
    I've been telling myself that I needed an M&P as a backup for a class I'm taking in October. I'm traveling a long way for this class and it would really not make my day if something broke on my only 9mm.

    Now I have an even better reason:)Because TekGreg said so lol

    I have narrowed it down to the 9mm Pro. I just can't make up my mind between barrel sizes. NO I can't have both!

  9. #18
    I too am encouraged and blessed to see women at the range.

    Regarding the trigger pull issue, I've found that internal/external hammer really makes no difference. Not an instructor or anything, just a lifetime of shooting everything I can get my hands on!

    But seriously folks...

    Even if using a pistol without a visible hammer, your weapon WILL communicate its impending trigger break to you through the trigger itself. Thus, as you are tempted to follow the travel of the hammer, you would instead follow the pressure curve of the trigger squeeze, leading to the same undesirable "push." For me, the key is to focus on sight alignment as you steadily increase trigger pressure, and include intermissions of dry practice several times during each live fire session.

    Dry practice. Fire. Repeat as desired. Go home and have a beer.

  10. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by jeepgal1961 View Post
    I've been telling myself that I needed an M&P as a backup for a class I'm taking in October. I'm traveling a long way for this class and it would really not make my day if something broke on my only 9mm.

    Now I have an even better reason:)Because TekGreg said so lol

    I have narrowed it down to the 9mm Pro. I just can't make up my mind between barrel sizes. NO I can't have both!
    Hey, JeepGal!

    Glad to know I'm giving you a good reason to increase your collection! It's a better investment than your IRA these days!

    As for barrel length, everyone advocates the shorter barrel as being easier to conceal when you carry as well as making the overall gun lighter. However, a longer barrel and heavier gun is more accurate, has more controllable recoil, moves the muzzle flash and noise farther away from your face and therefore, for your situation, the longer barrel is the better choice. If you later decide you wish the carry (shorter) barrel, you can probably trade with someone on the forum straight across ($0). But while your getting your basic skills down, long barrels, heavy guns, all the stuff the "Macho" guys wouldn't be caught dead with are your friend!
    Edmund Burke: “The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.” – 1784 speech. Taken from Founding Fathers Notes. "The unarmed man is not just defenseless -- he is also contemptible." Machiavelli

  11. #20
    Sometimes extra length is a good thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by localgirl View Post
    Darlin', if you can handle it like that, size don't matter.

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