Concealed Carry Permit Reciprocity Maps

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The permit maps below will show you which states you can carry concealed in as well as which state’s permits are honored in a particular state. If you have a concealed carry permit and want to know which state you can carry in use the default map “States That Honor My Permit(s). If you want to know which state’s permits are honored in a particular state, click on the “Permits Honored By State” tab. If you need help with these maps or what reciprocity means, click here to view our detailed explanation below.

States That Honor My Permit(s)Permits Honored By State

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NOTES:

Minnesota accepts Enhanced Permits from Idaho, North Dakota and South Dakota.
Tennessee issues permits to non-residents with exceptions. Read more here.
Texas only accepts the Rhode Island AG Issued Permits.
Nevada only accepts the Mississippi Enhanced Permits.
Pennsylvania only accepts North Dakota Class 1 Permits.
Nebraska only accepts North Dakota Class 1 Permits.
Nebraska only accepts Idaho Non-professional Permits.
The following States accept Idaho Enhanced Licenses: Minnesota, New Mexico, South Carolina, Washington and Virginia. Georgia accepts Idaho Resident Enhanced Licenses.
Texas accepts Ohio ISSUED AFTER 3/22/2015.
Wisconsin accepts Ohio ISSUED OR RENEWED ON OR AFTER 3/22/2015.
Wisconsin accepts Nevada ISSUED OR RENEWED ON OR AFTER 07/01/2011.
Wisconsin accepts Virginia Non-Resident Permits Only.
Wisconsin accepts West Virginia license ISSUED OR RENEWED AFTER 06/08/12.
Wisconsin accepts Alaska license ISSUED OR RENEWED ON OR AFTER 1/14/2013.
Wisconsin accepts Missouri license ISSUED OR RENEWED ON OR AFTER 08/28/2013. This DOES NOT include any provisional license issued by the state.
For a non-resident, South Carolina is not a shall-issue state, since they require property ownership for non-residents.

Recent Changes:

8/12/2015 – West Virginia and Nevada now have reciprocity.
8/12/2015 – North Dakota recognized Minnesota permits.
8/11/2015 – Minnesota dropped Missouri, Texas, Wyoming and Utah. Minnesota added Delaware, Illinois, New Jersey, Rhode Island, South Carolina, and the enhanced permits from Idaho, North Dakota, and South Dakota. [source]
8/4/2015 – ALL States checked and updated.
6/22/2015 – Nevada updated their list of state’s they accept. Louisiana and Wyoming now accept Nevada. [source]
5/12/2015 – Pennsylvania and Ohio now have reciprocity. [source]
5/12/2015 – Ohio accepts all other resident and non-resident permits and licenses. [source]
3/25/2015 – Georgia accepts Ohio permits. [source]
3/25/2015 – Colorado accepts Ohio resident permits only. [source]
3/25/2015 – Wisconsin accepts Ohio ISSUED OR RENEWED ON OR AFTER 3/22/2015. [source]
1/5/2015 – New Mexico and Alaska have reciprocity. [source]
9/8/2014 – Nevada and Louisiana no longer have reciprocity. [source]
8/4/2014 – Montana honors Illinois Permits. [source]
7/31/2014 – Nevada honors Illinois Permits. [source]
7/14/2014 – Pennsylvania and Utah now have reciprocity. [source]
6/22/2014 – Nebraska honors Illinois Permits. [source]
5/27/2014 – Virginia and Washington now honor Kansas permits. [a href=”http://www.ag.ks.gov/public-safety/concealedcarry/out-of-state-license-recognition” target=”_blank”>source]
5/23/2014 – Wisconsin honors Nevada ISSUED OR RENEWED ON OR AFTER 07/01/2011. [source]
4/7/2014 – Wisconsin honors Illinois. [source]
3/19/2014 – Alaska honors Illinois. [source]
3/5/2014 – New Mexico honors Wyoming. [source]
1/16/2014 – Ohio accepts Arizona Non-Resident. [source]
1/12/2014 – Delaware no longer honors Virginia. [source]
10/31/2013 – Updated to reflect West Virginia signing reciprocity agreements with Iowa and New Hampshire [source]
9/16/2013 – Updated to reflect Ohio only accepting Arizona Resident Permits Only [source]
9/3/2013 – Colorado and West Virginia have full reciprocity. [source]
8/26/2013 – Pennsylvania updated to show they only accept Maine Resident Permits [source]
8/21/2013 – Georgia and West Virginia now have reciprocity. [WV source – GA source]
8/6/2013 – Wyoming now honors Kansas. [source]
8/1/2013 – Alabama accepts all other state’s permits.
7/29/2013 – Pennsylvania accepts Kansas Permits. [source]
7/29/2013 – Pennsylvania will no longer accept Idaho carry permits [source]
7/23/2013 – Alabama changed to Shall Issue
7/9/2013 – Illinois Concealed Carry Law Enacted [source]
7/7/2013 – Kansas now accepts all state’s permits. [source]

Difference Between Concealed Carry Recognition and ReciprocitySome states have reciprocity agreements with other states which means each state honors the other state’s concealed carry permit.

Example of concealed carry reciprocity between two states: State A accepts State B’s concealed carry permit holders to carry in State A and State B accepts State A’s concealed carry permitholders to carry in State B.

There are also some cases where State A will accept State C’s concealed carry permit holders but State C WILL NOT accept State A’s concealed carry permit holders. This is NOT reciprocity.

The Concealed Carry Reciprocity Maps above will show you:

Map 1 – States That Honor My Permit(s):
The first screen on this map shows whether a state is Shall Issue, May Issue, or Right Denied.

Shall Issue: States that are Shall Issue will issue any private citizen a concealed weapons permit as long as they meet all requirements.

May Issue: States that are May Issue have the authority to take judgment on whether or not they want to issue a concealed weapons permit to a private citizen even after they have met all requirements.

Right Denied: States that are Right Denied DO NOT allows private citizens to carry handguns and do not issue concealed weapon permits.

To view which states accept your concealed weapons permit, just click on the state your permit is issued in. If you have multiple permits, start with your Resident Permit (The permit issued in the state you live in).

You may be asked if your concealed weapons permit is a Resident or Non-Resident permit. Some states issue permits to Residents of their state as well as Non-Residents. On the other hand, some state’s ONLY issue to Residents of their state. And to take it one step further, some states only allow permits issued to Residents of the states they have reciprocity with. This is what the yellow state color means on the map.

If you need to reset the map and start over just click on the Clear Map button.

Map 2 – Permits Honored by State
This map is a quick way to find out what state concealed carry permits a particular state allows. Just click on a state and any states that are blue are allowed within the selected state, red are not allowed, and yellow means only residents of that state that have permits are allowed.

Check out On The Vise, the new Fly Tying site by the creator of USA Carry.

We try to keep the information on this page as up to date as possible but due to changing laws it is your responsibility to verify all information. The information on this page is for informational purposes only and not for the purpose of providing legal advice. You should contact your attorney to obtain advice with respect to any particular issue or problem. Use of and access to this Web site, emails or any of the links contained within the site do not create an attorney-client relationship between i156 LLC and the user or browser. The opinions expressed at or through this site are the opinions of the individual author and may not reflect the opinions of i156 LLC.

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Sscsmi

This map is incorrect; the State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations is a MAY ISSUE. I had issues when I lived there getting my permit adn I was a licensed Private Detective. The AG’s office denied me with the excuse that they felt they had already issued to many permits. However state laws shows that the AG’s office is MAY ISSUE but it also shows that the Chief of Police for the City or Town you reside or work in SHALL ISSUE you a permit if you met the criteria established by law; however, they often refuse to do say claiming they dont have the authoirty until you file suit against both that city adn the chief of police specifically then they will follow the law and issue the permit. This is what I had to do to obtain my permit there as a Licensed Private Detective working as a Bail enforcement Agent chasing wanted persons. Although you do not need a ccw to carry a long gun in public or your vehicle as it is not concealabe!
- http://twitter.com/USACarry USA Carry
  
  We have no way of showing a status like this on the map but our new version will. Thanks for the heads up.
Anthony Baran

North Carolina No longer honors non resident permits from New Hampshire.
- http://twitter.com/USACarry USA Carry
  
  Thanks, the maps have been updated to reflect this.
http://twitter.com/USACarry USA Carry

Just updated the maps to show that North Dakota and Washington has Reciprocity with each other. Note that Washington only accepts Class 1 North Dakota permits only.
Anonymous

Just updated the maps to show that Louisiana accepts Iowa permits now that Iowa accepts all state issued permits.
CCdodge

Is there a place I can see a similar map for open carry?
Auroarah08

This is a great bit of information to have considering I was planning on traveling this summer and now I know what states I don’t have to worry about carring in.
- Gryryder
  
  It would be to your advantage to check and recheck all of the CCW requirements before starting your traveling. As the laws are subject change from day to day. One never knows when a ploitician has a nightmare as to how cause more problems than they have already created by being part of the dumbs.
Tony

When I first select NH, then MA and ME the list of permit honored states includes Maine twice.
tommy

so according to your map above if i live in georgia and travel to arkansas would i be able to do so armed
- Anonymous
  
  If you have a Georgia Concealed Carry Permit and are traveling through GA, AL, MS, to AR it seems like you will be ok. You always want to double check the laws for the states you are going into and also their laws on vehicle carry with a permit. Looks like you are good to go.
  - tommy
    
    thanks for the help but how do i find out what those state laws are please advise forthwith
    - Anonymous
      
      You can go to each state website and it explains which states they have reciprocity
Anonymous

We have to work on the may issue states to change to shall issue and all states should issue to non-residents or have equal reciprocity.
Anonymous

I have a NC CCW permit, and may be doing some work in Iowa. So, according to present laws, I can get there legally only by GOING AROUND the state of Illinois. We need to change such idiotic restrictions, and observe the 2nd Amendment in ALL 50 states.
- Gryryder
  
  I totally agree. However, as long as there are Chicago cesspool politicians in office, Obama,Durbin, Madacian, Emmanuel and etc., Illinois citizens, except for the priviledge elected and/or appointed state government individuals, will never have a CCW. It is my understanding that Dailey, while still in office, signed a special priviledge CCW oridiance, that politicial office holders, within the city limits of Chicago, would be permitted to carry concealed weapons for self defense.
- Bates
  
  Actually, if it’s properly stowed and you’re only passing through, you’re fine.
  
  FOPA (Firearm Owners Protection Act, Fed. 1986)
  § 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms
  
  Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
  - Eazygnome
    
    thats all great but let me tell ya if you have a gun in the car in NY or MASS. and you get pulled over regardless you will go to jail. i dont care if you have evry permit in the nation. if you don’t have mass and ny they will do what they do best arrest you make you spend a ton of money and never think twice about you and what they did. i’m not disagreeing with you about the law but i know 2 people who got caught and were trying to be honest about it and spent over $8000 apiece and still ahve not got there guns back.
  - GA LEO
    
    I think one failure for all is to ASSUME ANYTHING, ANYWHERE! First, a Cop will not dismantle a car if you accidentally showed a CCW, As a LEO in NJ I WOULD ask if you are armed, or is the weapon secured as specified by law. If you are acting like a dick-head, you”ll be treated as such. I don’t mean Baggy pants, dressed like the “hood” per se either. I have seen really nice guys wear really STUPID STUFF while driving with the family- Like they are taunting someone to “try something”. THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SHOWING TO A COP OR PUBLIC! I am now a Georgia resident, CCW and LEO here. We honor just about anything with a Permit, and depending on what’s the situation- a lot of lee way for someone who just has a gun in the car. But I am going to Cut a lot more slack to the family guy who simply says “Hi Officer, everything ok?” than I would the Butt wad who wants to start off the encounter with a permit and NRA book in hand. No less then the bunch of kids with the Low Profiles, Blasting Gangsta Rap and Flashing signs like they got some sort of Palsy! THINK ABOUT THE MESSAGE YOU’RE SENDING! And Slow Down in North Georgia! This isn’t NASCAR, even if some of the brain dead around here drive like it is.
- Snatale42
  
  No, you can “Drive Through” only stopping at rest stops and for gas as long as your guns are stored per Fed Regs.
  - packin.
    
    Correct, you can have one just not carry concealed.
- Jerrodcrockett
  
  You can still transport through the state … you just cant have it loaded and on your person. Or if you are just pasing through and obey the laws and don’t get stopped… they wont know.
- Chuck
  
  Do you not know that you unload your weapon, lock it in the glovebox, and put the ammo. in the trunk out of reach, and be legal?!!!
  - Independent
    
    once again making a statement that is attacking people without reason
    just because someone doesn’t know the laws correctly doesn’t mean you should attack them
  - Titanium_citizen
    
    Hey Chuck you CAN not lock a gun in your GLOVEBOX because where is your insurance card and registration. What do you think a Police Officer would do if you got pulled over and asked for your info and saw you gun concealed weapon? Well I will tell you! It would be a Felony traffic stop. You should know the law before you Talk At Someone instead of To Someone.
    Now have a nice day.
    - Rick Prater
      
      So move your reg. & ins. cd to over your visor.
- Mr Chubko to you.
  
  No this is not true. To travel thru Illinois your weapon MUST BE:
  
  a. Unloaded
  b. Encased in a locked box(safest to place box in trunk)
  
  You do not need Illinois FOID to transport a gun thru Illinois if you are not a resident of Illinois. All you need to have is the permit from the state you are from or licensed in.
  
  HB-0148 is being proposed to allow for CCW in Illinois.
  We need this here badly.
  This from a Retired housing Agent.
Fred

Hello. Great site. So if a person travelling with family has a pistol in the car and they a CHL carrier in another state and get stopped for speeding in Illinois… do we show our CHL permit? What if the gun is packed in the car-or does that even matter?
- Bill Carson
  
  Showing a CC permit in IL is pointless because IL recognizes no permits.
  
  Your firearm must be unloaded and cased to comply with federal law when passing through IL, and your point of origin and destination must both be outside IL. If you are stopping in IL for business or pleasure, you are not protected by federal law.
- Richard Weible
  
  Absolutely do not show your permit, unless you want your vehicle torn apart and like being handcuffed and arrested. The only legal way to transport in IL is to have the ammo in the glove box and the pistol in a locked case in the trunk. I live in MO and they specifically told us to NOT put your CCW on your drivers license. IL cops consider that ‘probable cause’, and will dismantle your car and then hand the keys to you. One of the crookedest states in the union. I personally avoid IL for this and other reasons.
  - Gryryder
    
    Right on Richard. I am an Illinois citizen and know very well what an individual may encounter with the slightist “probable cause” idication. The transport manner, that you mentioned, has been revised to that the ammo and gun may be in the same box or designate carrier designed for the transportation of the gun.The law makers are still kicking around if a glove box or consul can be considered as a designed carrier. However the gun can not be loaded and “””MUST NOT BE””” immdiately accessible. Also, when traveling through Illinois and you are stopped for any reason I would volunteer any information as to having a gun unless so ask. The don’t ask, don’t tell rule, at times, relates to more than AC ? or DC ?.
  - Fred
    
    Thank you for your help. More power to the NRA and our Second Amendment.
  - H2oskiermth
    
    Illinois is a god forsake’n state!!! Lived there 10 years and will never return, the politicians there are the biggest crocks of all!!
  - Bluemac57
    
    Thanks for the Info. I’m going through there in a few days
Bryantschiltz

Dose north carolina’s open carry law have any permits i have to get or is it just 21 years old and not to be a felon???
Lloydf14

to be ok to travel go pack-n-go conceal trip planner results and nra-ila also go to your division of licensing,doacs .be safe
RonKg8ec

Gosh I’m glad I live in Ohio ! Wis. & Ill. are two states I’ll avoid like a poison snakes !
I wish every state had firearms laws like Vermont, then there would be no worries.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_56EIV5LCFB422A3SMXMPCGOW74 KSWildcat

It is my understanding that Nevada now accepts Utah CCW; however the map shows otherwise.
- Anonymous
  
  No, Nevada does not accept Utah permits.
  
  http://nvrepository.state.nv.us/ccw_changes.shtml
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_56EIV5LCFB422A3SMXMPCGOW74 KSWildcat

My bust: “Nevada Will No Longer Recognize Utah and Florida Right-to-Carry Permits (Thursday, June 25, 2009) . . . Effective, July 1, Nevada will no longer recognize Right-to-Carry permits from Utah or Florida. They have, however, added Ohio and West Virginia as recognized states. . . Florida will no longer be recognized because its permits are now valid for seven years instead of five . . . ”

Effective, July 1, Nevada will no longer recognize Right-to-Carry permits from Utah or Florida. They have, however, added Ohio and West Virginia as recognized states.

Each May, the Nevada Department of Public Safety conducts an audit of states and their Right-to-Carry laws for the purpose of determining which states it will recognize.

The Nevada DPS dropped Utah because it does not have a live fire requirement, which is a part of Nevada’s training requirements. When the Nevada DPS first began its state by state audit of Right-to-Carry laws in 2007, DPS admitted to NRA representatives that they overlooked the live fire training requirement. After further review, they determined that Utah wasn’t similar enough to keep it on the list of recognized states.

Florida will no longer be recognized because its permits are now valid for seven years instead of five.

The Nevada DPS and the Nevada Sheriffs and Chiefs will be hosting their annual Right-to-Carry forum in Carson City in August with a teleconference feed to Las Vegas. We encourage all members to attend this informational meeting. Details will be forthcoming.
- Gryryder
  
  It is about time, that the policy of Utah’s requirements for CCW has surfaced. I for one fail to see where a 3 hour, in classroom BS session, would qualify an individual to receive any degree of a CCW permit. It is all about the money and nothing else. For the privilege to obtain a Utah CCW an applicant must pay a Utah excepted instructor $XXX.00 and then pay a second fee for the Utah CCW.
  
  Also, hold on to yopur wallets. Pennsylvania has and/or is revising their standards of CCW permit requirement. It appears that some politician has discovered, that the state is not receiving their fair share of the CCW application proceeds and have enacted legislationas to a “MUST APPEAR REQUIREMENT” to process the applicant’s application.
Ds7

I do believe that Noth Carolina has Iowa listed as a state they recognize now. It is posted on there web site.
- Anonymous
  
  Thanks, this has been updated.
Laurence

Have none of the lawmakers of the various states ever read the U. S. Constitution, which they are allegedly sworn to uphold? Article IV of the Constitution states quite clearly:

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

Which means every state MUST recognize the laws (public acts) and judicial proceedings (permits and licenses) of every other state. Can you image New York refusing to recognize a drivers’ license from Virginia or Vermont? Or a marrige certificate from Ohio? That is exactly what these states are doing by refusing to recognize other states’ licenses and permits.

Why doesn’t the NRA or some other large organization file suit to enforce the Constitution, which the do-gooder politicians are deliberately flouting? After all, any law or regulation that contradicts the national Constitution is automatically null and void
- Gryryder
  
  The politicians of Illinois have never heard of or totally understand the purpose of and/or the rights of American citizens as so provided the US Constitution. They only care what is proper for their individual self and/or party policy. They fail to understand the purpose of the Oath of Office that they took to preserve and protect.
  - Bills1949
    
    stop voting for them, get involved, the people in chicago left mayor daly in there forever till he finally retired, vote them out, so apparently the majority thought he was doing a good job
- Teflondon115
  
  you are so right gov- politicians brakeing the laws of the constitution . lets fight for our rights
- Independent
  
  every state has the ability to dictate the laws under which restrict who can and can not carry concealed weapons the reason some states do not recognize other states permits is because they do not have the same standards for who can receive them
mr_charlie

fwiw: NJ should be listed as a right denied state, while there are provisions for issuing concealed carry permits there are almost impossible to obtain.
- Anubis
  
  Agree. Also Hawaii; cc permit law on books, also never issue.
  - Packin
    
    California is very tuff too!
Gryryder

As soon as the politicial office holders can figure out how they can receive as much money, that they can bleed from the applicants of CCW applications, they will come up with some manner of a issue to satisfy their do-goody legislation.
D. Babcock

I don’t believe that the information on West Virginia is Correct.
Unless I am reading something old/out-dated. They do not accept any non-resident permits from other states. (So if I get a non-resident permit from states such as Florida or their neighbor, Pennsylvania, and I have a resident permit in Alabama, I will not be legal to carry concealled). …I could be wrong… it’s happened before
- Anonymous
  
  H.B. 3314 allowed West Virginia for the first time to honor non-resident licenses issued by reciprocity states. The law went into effect July 10, 2009.
  
  http://www.wvago.gov/gunrecep.cfm
Anonymous

Thanks. The map has been updated to reflect this.
Russyjoe35

i like to go to chicago to have fun but they can stick it the state of illinois ,,,, boycott them it it is our right to carry
Millert_120317

so if I have an Indiana permit I can carry it to Florida??
- Anonymous
  
  If you are a resident of Indiana and have an Indiana concealed carry permit then it is accepted in Florida.
Vikings666

I have a conceal license in minnesota, can i carry in nevada?
- Anonymous
  
  Yes.
Wildmangood2000

WI & IL Have no carry permits? That is f!#@#@ bullshit!! The criminals have there weapons, that is a total infringement on the 2nd amendment.. I think there should be a union started in regards to gun owners.. That would be some collective bargaining.. All gun owners wheather your from these states or not should do whatever you can to change this and change this now!!! This is socialism at its best. This is what Obama & his cronies are all about..
- Wildmangood2000
  
  Pencil neck scumbags, harvard fruitloops, community organizer, welfare signer upper for votes.
  - Dellavar
    
    It’s ignorant rants like that that give traction to the argument that “ordinary” people should not have guns. Take it from this Harvard-educated retired police Captain. Your thinly-veiled racism and intermperate tone do no service to the cause.
  - Dellavar
    
    It’s ignorant rants like that that give traction to the argument that “ordinary” people should not have guns. Take it from this Harvard-educated retired police Captain. Your thinly-veiled racism and intermperate tone do no service to the cause.
    - http://www.facebook.com/brian.leach.fort.smith Brian Leach
      
      why not? this sort of “meaningless” tone elected a President after all
    - Saabman
      
      I will never understand why you need a permit to exercise your constitutional rights. It is even more interesting that individual states can determine how a citizen will be allowed to exercise his federal constitutional right. Doesn’t the supremecy clause prohibit states from interfering with the powers authorized by the constitution? Perhaps there is a loophole in the supremecy clause that only allows that to occur in the case of states trying to protect their borders. The democrats are not right and the republicans are not right, “We the People” are right.
- Bill Carson
  
  I share your outrage. NJ and HI are theoretically “may issue” states, but actually are never-issue so there are actually at least 4 states in which the average joe can’t get a permit.
  - Markbythesea72
    
    You are right. I did volunteering work for the state of NJ for a few years. Looked good for my non resident application but still got denied 3 times. I was told to make a generous contribution to the governors campaign fund and maybe that would grease the wheels. NJ / MA forget about it!
    - Rick Prater
      
      The only permits issued in NJ are to Active duty police officers, Judges, & Armored car employees.
      Mass, is very easy to get a resident permit & is not a problem to get a non-resident permit if you have a current permit where you reside. I had a non resident permit for over a year. Not sure how it works now, but I used to have to renew monthly @ $1.00/month, but it was almost automatic.
      - Markbythesea72
        
        I applied to MA and told me that they weren’t accepting applications for non residents? WTF?
      - Heritagehd05
        
        Glad I live in Florida! Used to be Texas, where I first aquired my CCW, before that it was Maryland, good luck up there, I went through hell just trying to by a handgun.
- Dellavar
  
  Guys like you hamper the efforts to obtain fair gun rights for all far more effectively than any “socilaist.” Anyone reading this would agree a person like you should never be allowed to have access to firearms.
  - Chuck
    
    Dellavar
    I’m also concerned those who “rant” about their rights, they NEVER consider
    
    the rights of those who do not want what he wants!!! ” I’ll get my way or “you
    will be sorry” like a school yard “bully”! Just another “knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, red-neck.
    
    A proud Democrat, protecting me and mine from his type !!!!
    - http://www.facebook.com/brian.leach.fort.smith Brian Leach
      
      the right to bear arms is guaranteed by the 2nd amendment…it isn’t a matter of choice whether or not it should be honored
    - Independent
      
      Chuck
      spoken like a true Democrat exaggerating what people are saying and viewing it at a narrow view.
      people fighting to loosen gun control laws are not saying you have to do what they are doing thats the beauty of America Just because something is legal doesn’t mean you have to do it. I would like to carry my gum for my protection and to protect everyone i can with no intent of ever firing it.
      Your little argument here is almost word for word something that it used as a joke by Ann Coulter in one of her books. If you want to be able to present a decent argument you need to know what you are talking about and you need to try to understand the views of other people we are all allowed to have our own view. arguing with no understanding of what you are arguing about is the liberal way.
      I do agree that Wildmangood2000 is not smart enough to be able to present a good argument but he is doing what he can to fight for what he believes in. yes his rant was counter productive due to his lack of knowledge and his presentation.
      Fighting to have a law changed is an American privileged and everyone should take advantage of it.
      An independent person smart enough to make my own choices
    - Jeff
      
      The difference between repubs & dems. If a repub doesnt believe in god he wont go to church, a dem who doesnt wants no one to go to church. A dem who doesnt believe in the 2nd amendment wants no one to own a gun, a repub who doesnt believe in the 2nd amendment doesnt buy a gun. Im a firm believer that if you only vote partyline and not for the best person for the job you shouldnt be allowed to vote. We need to get over all the hype and politics and remember what makes this country great, Freedom and not trying to change something that has worked for years just to pacify a minority that want to scream politicle correctness and rights when they dont get their way but assume they have the right and power to take your beliefs if you dont agree with their own. Not everyone has the luxery to live close to a police station or a community that has never seen any crime, I refuse to be a victim and blindly expect or demand that a police officer protect me 24/7
      - Bmill02
        
        I have to disagree on you that if you only vote for the partyline and not the best person for the job you shouldn’t be allowed to vote. I used to only vote for who I thought was the best candidate, but lately that doesn’t matter. Republicans will vote for Republican bills and Democrats will vote for Democratic bills. Until the party leaders stop putting so much pressure on the freshmen Representatives and even on the Senators we don’t have much of a choice. What we need to do is start telling all of them, if you don’t stop all of this partisan crap and just start fixing the problems then your all fired. In all honesty what is best for this country is to take some of the Democrats views and some of the Republicans views and combine them. Neither one of them by themselves has the right answer for what is best for America.
      - Heritagehd05
        
        I’ll have to second that. With that wisdom, and how I hate to bring this into it, the Repblicans who won’t get an abortion don’t want anybody to have one. Just tossing in my 2 cents. I think that you should only vote party line after researching the candidates, if you agree with their platforms, go for it. You’ll never see me going down the line with all (R) or all (D). Minds like that will never see, or help make positive changes to our country, which we so sorely need.
      - Computerbrain111
        
        I disagree. Anyone who gets an abortion, does not respect the rights of the most innocent of all of us. Babys (yes…even unborn ones) have not Only constitutionally protected rights, but GOD given rights. If you reject the notion of God, then you reject the ideals that founded our nation [and the constitution]. This will jeprodize all of our rights if unchecked eventualy, even the right to keep and bear arms.
      - Vetwhosworeanoath
        
        That’s where you’re overwhelmingly wrong. A vast majority of our founding fathers were deists and against organized religion. They believed in a “creator”, but they also believed in separating church and state. Read the 1st Amendment! Our original seal of the US can be found on the back of a one dollar bill, in it you will find what the founding fathers intended. The statement in Latin is “NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM”, translated to English, it reads “A NEW SECULAR ORDER”. Secular is defined below:
        1.of or pertaining to worldly things or to things that are not regarded as religious, spiritual, or sacred; temporal: secular interests.
        2.not pertaining to or connected with religion.
        3. concerned with nonreligious subjects.
        
        So what I’m basically saying is: Read and study your history before you spout all of the God and founding father stuff.
      - truthseeker
        
        That’s an absolute revisionist falsehood, and you have fallen for it and have failed to learn the history of this country. Some founding fathers were “diests,” but not in the modern sense of that term, and they certainly did not set out to create a secular paradise as revisionists in the NEA now teach. They were deeply religious men, and even the most secular of them, Ben Franklin, said things about the truth of God and Christianity that would shock the modern liberal or athiest. The founding fathers were against a state-run religion like the Church of England, but said publicly many times that democracy depends on Christianity to survive. Get educated.
      - Steve Bumgardner
        
        Sorry “truthseeker” back to school for you. Franklin was responding to a stalemate. He was offering an elaborate insult: If you guys can’t do it, pray to one who can. It worked. Several of them got their knickers in a pretty tight knot over the comment, but they compromised and got the job done.
        
        Funny someone calling himself “truthseeker” should snipe about revisionist history while offering revisionist history. Not really all that interested in truth, eh?
        
        Oh, and it was the Continental Convention of 1787. They didn’t call it the “Constitutional Convention” because they didn’t want folks to know what they were up to until it was pretty much done.
      - amhistoryprof
        
        Abosolutely True an very well put. Amen!
      - wonder worm
        
        where did they say this? then why isnt it in the constitution?
      - truthseeker
        
        Here’s a snippet– the “athiest” or “secularist” Benjamin Franklin to the Constitutional Convention:
        “In this situation of this Assembly, groping as it were in the dark to
        find political truth, and scarce able to distinguish it when presented
        ot us, how has it happened, Sir, that we have not hitherto once thought
        of humbly applying to the Father of lights to illuminate our
        understanding?
        
        In the beginning of the Contest with G. Britain, when we were sensible
        of danger, we had daily prayer in this room for Divine protection. – Our
        prayers, Sir, were heard, & they were graciousy answered. All of
        us who were engaged in the struggle must have observed frequent
        instances of a superintending Providence in our favor.
        
        To that kind Providence we owe this happy opportunity of consulting in
        peace on the means of establishing our future national felicity. And
        have we now forgotten that powerful Friend? or do we imagine we no
        longer need His assistance?
        
        I have lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more
        convincing proofs I see of this truth – That God Governs in the affairs
        of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice,
        is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid?
        
        We have been assured, Sir, in the Sacred Writings, that “except the Lord
        build the House, they labor in vain that build it.” I firmly believe
        this; and I also believe that without his concurring aid we shall
        succeed in this political building no better than the Builders of Babel:
        We shall be divided by our partial local interests; our projects will
        be confounded, and we ourselves shall become a reproach and bye word
        down to future ages.
        
        And what is worse, mankind may hereafter from this unfortunate instance,
        despair of establishing Governments by human wisdom and leave it to
        chance, war and conquest.
        
        I therefore beg leave to move – that henceforth prayers imploring the
        assistance of Heaven, and its blessing on our deliberations, be held in
        this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one
        or more of the clergy of this city be requested to officiate in that
        service.”
      - B1itsjustme
        
        That sir is incorrect and you probably know it. B. Franklin had a fellow Pennsylvanian read this to the congress before passage….
        
        ”
        Mr. President
        
        I confess that there are several parts of this constitution which I do not
        at present approve, but I am not sure I shall never approve them: For having
        lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged by better
        information, or fuller consideration, to change opinions even on important
        subjects, which I once thought right, but found to be otherwise. It is
        therefore that the older I grow, the more apt I am to doubt my own judgment,
        and to pay more respect to the judgment of others. Most men indeed as well as
        most sects in Religion, think themselves in possession of all truth, and that
        wherever others differ from them it is so far error. Steele a Protestant in a
        Dedication tells the Pope, that the only difference between our Churches in
        their opinions of the certainty of their doctrines is, the Church of Rome is
        infallible and the Church of England is never in the wrong. But though many
        private persons think almost as highly of their own infallibility as of that of
        their sect, few express it so naturally as a certain french lady, who in a
        dispute with her sister, said “I don’t know how it happens, Sister but I meet
        with no body but myself, that’s always in the right — Il n’y a que moi
        qui a toujours raison.”
      - wonder worm
        
        and if my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle.
      - Anonymous
        
        . . .and prone to vulgarity just as you are.
      - Anonymous
        
        Well done!
      - The7thson
        
        Your translation of “Novus Ordo Seclorum” as “A New Secular Order” only shows that you have an abysmal ignorance of Latin.
        
        Novus Ordo Seclorum means a “New Order of the Ages”.
        
        As for your “separation of church and state” argument – The 1st Amendment only says that Congress will not establish a national religion. It does NOT say that all religious discourse is to be banned from the public square.
      - Anonymous
        
        No, you have succumbed to the propaganda of the left. If you actually would read the writings of the Founding Fathers you’s see that they, to a man speak of God with reverence.
      - B1itsjustme
        
        Where in the constitution is that written? And where in the bible is that written? Nowhere. Many of the founding fathers rejected the idea of god. Most actually. Under god was not on our money, or in the govt. until 1950’s, although some coins had it.
      - Amhistory prof
        
        Read the Declaration of Independence, there buddy. I believe God is mentioned and signed by almost all our founding fathers, which WAS the foundation of the US. By the way, the first 10 ammendments (the bill of rights) were included in the constitution and acknowledged as God-given by nearly all who voted for ratification. I’d like to know of that whom signed either document rejected the idea of God. Just because you do, please don’t show your lack of inteligence by making an unfounded claim such as this. Your ability to make such a claim is the beauty of YOUR GOD-GIVEN RIGHT to free speech (which is backed by the constitution), even if it is erroneous. How would you like it if the government decided free speech was detrimental to national security and tried to regulate it? You’d have to have permission to post here, or risk breaking the law. Kind of what’s happening to the 2nd ammendment, huh? Beware what you support.
      - Tim
        
        Fuck your GOD GIVEN RIGHT !!! Fuck GOD as well dip shit.
      - Matt from CA
        
        Wrong. The whole point of separation from England was that the crown was trying to usurp God granted rights. The founders were saying, God gave man the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. These rights are not granted by men to other men but come from the Creator. As such they can not be regulated, controlled or revoked by men. If you try to take away the founders belief in God (which there is a strong push to do these days) you destroy the very idea this great nation was founded on. Learn true history and don’t let yourself be lead astray by people trying to revise our history.
      - Martialmaster89
        
        Your wrong, very wrong. Its simple, read the Treaty of Tripoli, article 10.
        
        We are in no way a Christian nation, the belief in a god doesn’t mean your a theist, which is why they were called DEIST! It says GOD, not the Christian God, not Jesus. You have to put that in yourself..
        
        The Treaty of Tripoli ends the argument..
      - Rboyer3298
        
        How did you guys get so far off point. This is about the ability of Americans to legally conceal carry a fire arm. What we need is for a federal law that allows this for all states. and not on a state by state basis. Simply pass the back ground check, and you are good in all 50 states. End of all the BS.
      - Tim
        
        Fuck God. Fuck your God !!!!
      - Billy Bob
        
        What a bunch of crap. Sheep, yes the animal are a lot smarter than you. They just don’t have the brain function or intelligence to form an opinion or the ability to use the web to disperse such idiotic drivvel. You have been told what to think for so long you actually think that you are thinking on your own. HA
      - Ronlinx
        
        Sheeple, will blindly go to slaughter because they “know” that the government will protect them from any bad guys in society. Patriots, will defend themselves first, while waiting for government agencies to come and cuff the “suspect”.
      - Anonymous
        
        Or carry the body away!
      - wonder worm
        
        you dont get out much, do you?
      - CommonSenseTheSuperpower
        
        that doesn’t even make sense. One can be atheist or even agnostic and
        still understand the same basic ideals of freedom and service that went
        into writing the constitution. As for abortions; you try being 14 and
        pregnant, or broke and pregnant. Is it better to deny the unborn
        unthinking fetus higher cognitive function or allow it to be raised cold
        hungry and insulted, possibly diseased? or even let it die crying in a
        dumpster? Don’t hide your ignorance behind the idea of rights; this may
        be Kevorkian of me but damnit if you cant give a child a good, even a
        passing life, if the only life you can give is a miserable one, then
        simply don’t give it one. sure, your response would be “then she
        shouldn’t have gotten pregnant”… rape much?
        
        next time try using a little common sense to construct an argument
        instead of mindless bull you hear on the radio on the way to (by the
        sounds of your argument) the welfare office to get your monthly check
      - http://twitter.com/fla5hfire Nobody N Particular
        
        Sorry, but not all pregnancies lead to live births, so how can you say that the unborn is a baby? Sorry, but zygotes, embryos, and fetuses are not babies, they cannot breath or eat without major medical assistance (in the case of well developed fetuses only). Also, life, in and of itself is NOT sacred, since it requires nothing but biology to occur; it is how you live that adds value to your life. People need to learn the difference between biological and religious view of life, too many like to muddy the differences. BTW, one of the biggest contributing factors to the decline of crime in the US is the fact that thousands of unwanted babies were NOT born to mothers who didn’t want them. These babies, if borne would have had the burden of being unwanted, and that would have a large impact on how they would chose to live (greater probability of a life of crime). Life is sacred only to those who truly value it, and that cannot be forced on anyone.
      - Anonymous
        
        There is a difference. Choosing to have or not have a gun is just a bit different than taking an innocent life!
      - William
        
        That is the reason they should be more transparent and more in tune with the people. There is no way they could not have known the people want them to stop wasting money and spending what they do not have.
      - Rlbow99
        
        Right on Jeff
      - Lowriderracing
        
        Very well put Jeff!!!!!!
      - Hawk
        
        The Consitution doesn’t mention Jesus, Jehovah, The Holy Ghost, the Pope, Mary, Peter, Paul, Mark, Luke, John, etc. Read the Treaty of Tripoli, the USA is not a “Christian” nation. You religious fanatics scare me as much as folks like you scared the Founding Fathers.Jesus, please deliver me frm your followers!
      - B1itsjustme
        
        Jeff. You are a little confusing. You say if you only vote party line that’s not good, yet you only qualify repubs as right and dems as wrong. What about a repub who does believe in god and wants everyone to believe how he/she believes and wants the laws of the land to reflect their position only. Doesn’t that seem more of what’s going on than your example? How about a dem that believes in gun rights, but wants limits on buying 35 handguns in Ga. in one go, knowing that they are most likely on their way up 95 to N.Y.? Or a dem that wants waiting periods at gun shows to take that idiotic loophole out of play. (I am a dem who bought a nice beretta at a gun show) There are more dems like me than not. I’m also a dem that is secular but respectful of other religions, the plural. This country was founded on pluralism. If you don’t believe that, look it up. As far as not changing something that has worked for years, I’m not sure I follow that. Are we talking guns, which you have to admit needs something done. God? Hell that changes all the time. Or slavery? Should we have left that alone?
      - Jtfkf
        
        1 Quick answer.Theres good and bad in everything on this planet earth.” Bad cars….good cars.” Example: I Own a CCL from Texas, I like the feeling of being safe for my family, when we go out to eat at night or day.The Police are over worked and under paid. They can”nt be everywere at once.
        If it was a perfect world, I would”nt carry a Glock 30 hand gun, but i still would like to keep it because I like to Target shoot.
        But thats just me.
      - Tim
        
        Fuck Jesus Christ !!!
      - JonM1911
        
        Exactly. Its quite funny to b/c the liberal’s response to people who are against gay marriage and abortion is “If you don’t like it don’t get one”. Yet when it comes to the 2nd Amendment, they want to ban all guns instead of taking their own advice and “just don’t get one if you don’t like it”. And they call US intolerant…
      - William
        
        If Norway had a CCW Law perhaps some of those kids killed there might be alive today because of a responsible adult who could have shot that loony bastard before the ninety minutes were up.
      - wonder worm
        
        if you believe all that krap, then you are an absolute moron. I am a Democrat and proud of it, but I dont hold to any of that nonsense you spewed.
      - Tom
        
        When one does not agree with someone, they are exercising their 1st Amendment right to do so. However, it does NOT give them the right to prevent someone from saying it. M. O’Hare was given something I hope no one else gets, a change in a law because it didn’t agree with her “morality.”
        ALL the Amendments to the Constitution rely on the 1st two remaining intact.
        
        “Remember: when seconds count, the police are just minutes away”
    - Rlbow99
      
      You mean a proud dumacrat
    - Lowridderracing
      
      Chuck your a fool also. You and dellavar can share the boat ride away from the US. Do you have a clue what the constitution is?
    - Frenchfriar
      
      Yep, just like gay rights, illegal alien rights, Islam right, etc, all shoved down our throats!
      - Tech36
        
        excuse me? Do you really believe that gay rights as an issue of equality is a threat to something? What does it threaten? Please don’t recite the same old tired rhetoric that has been repeated to the point that people want to fall asleep when they hear it. Current national polls clearly show that the vast majority support gay rights as an equality issue. The only groups who oppose are the illiterate, the ultra-right win religious, who are led around by their so call spiritual advisors, and the elderly, over 70. of course there are sub groups who oppose, but they don’t have any original reasons. The main arguments againts gay rights have been disproven time and time again. Gay people are not a threat to our children, they don’t rape, and they are not out to take over the world. I find it funny when people use those arguments. Arrest records throughout the country prove that “straight” men comit more crimes against children of both sexes than any other group for all crimes. So, Frenchfriar, why don’t you join the 21st century before it leaves you old and bitter.
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1251301422 Sbd Rancott
        
        Ya know, this is a such a combersome topic…atleast for me. A gay…aka homosexual…. person is a PERSON …period. Same as a, how do you politicaly say it… black person, white person, or native american .We are all americans, we all bleed red, the same god…reguardless of the name you call him/her by has given us the same breath. As far as the gay marrage issue, thats a no brainer. Marrage is a religeous institution that the state has no business being involved in. Seperation of church and state. Look at the contitution and bill of rights….also consider the letters Jefferson wrote to congress. My son is gay..I accept him for whom he is. He’s my son. The bottom line is….MIND YOU OWN BUSINESS, RESPECT EACH OTHERS RIGHTS AND THE FREEWILL WHICH THE CREATOR GRANTED US ALL !!!!
      - Tech36
        
        Just so I made myself clear, because I did use some multisyllabic words; I am gay. I make a lot of money, A LOT OF MONEY. Without people like me, you would never be able to see a doctor, go to an emergency room, or get antibiotics. I also carry a gun at all times. I never know when I will run into a bigoted idiot. To date, I have never had to use it, and I pray I never have to.
      - B1itsjustme
        
        So… the only people you think should have rights are who? You? And people like you? Move to Saudi Arabia then. That’s their gig.
    - http://twitter.com/LadyLibrtysMuse Alice
      
      Huge difference between ‘wanting’ to grant someone a right based on your own opinions/want, and being willing to stand up for the unalienable rights of others because it’s the right thing to do.
      
      Also, your comment:
      >>” I’ll get my way or “you
      will be sorry” like a school yard “bully”! Just another “knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, red-neck.
      
      A proud Democrat, protecting me and mine from his type !!!! <<
      
      …yeah, just the same kind of 'schoolyard bully (three exclamation points) name-calling, shout-louder-cause-it-proves-I'm-right' ranting that you claim to abhor. Hypocrisy, thy name is apparently Chuck.
    - Carterworks
      
      I had much rather be a knuckle dragging Red-Neck than a democrat. We red-necks look after all our rights. The Second Amendment is a good starting point
      - B1itsjustme
        
        The only thing you get out of the constitution is the 2nd ammnd? Seriously? Foxworthy would love to add your idiocy to his stand up routine. Duh
      - scuski
        
        The only thing you get out of Franklins quotes are he didn’t believe in God?
        You should read the book “Signers of the Declaration of Independence” which will tell you that viryually all 55 signers of the 1787 Constitution were members of Christian denominations: ( here is the proof) 29 were Anglican, 18 were Calvinists, 2 were Methodists,2 were Lutherans, 2 were Roman Catholic, 1 was a lapsed Quaker and sometimes Anglican and 1 was a Deist who was Benjamin Franklin and who said all the things that ‘truthseeker’ said in his thread.
      - S_bumgardner
        
        I take it your book didn’t mention that all but one colony required membership in their specific religion in order to hold office. Even Jefferson was registered. None the less, the majority were actually Deists. Franklin, who didn’t hold office and as a consequence didn’t have to register, was hardly alone. Deism was a popular religion during the Enlightenment period. FYI, Deism is not a form of Christianity.
        
        Yes, Franklin said the things “truthseeker” said. But as I mentioned, it was actually an elaborate insult. As I explained, several of the members, including Alexander Hamilton who gave quite a speech in rebuttal, got very upset. In the end they didn’t offer up so much as one prayer during the Continental Convention. Not one.
        
        You know, if you try you can look this up in legitimate sources. I suggest you read “The Great Rehearsal” by Carl VanDoren. It was written before historical revisionism became so popular.
      - NippiDipper
        
        What a maroon!
      - amhistoryprof
        
        So you are saying that everything in the constitution, including your exercision of the 1st ammendment here, is worth getting behind EXCEPT the 2nd ammendment? I tend to think it should be all or nothing. How can we obey the rule of law if people like you can take a guaranteed and unrepealable (thank God the founding fathers thought of idiots like you) provision and pass legislation to weaken it? What you fail to realize is, if it can be done to the 2nd ammendment,why not infringe on other rights and censure free speech, or reinstate the quartering act, or just allow the police to break down your door and drag you to jail because your neighbor said you exercised free speech against the government? Sound ridiculous? Remember the Holocaust?
        
        Talk about Foxworthy material- look in the mirror! I’d rather be the butt of a Foxworthy joke than aligned with Hitler.
      - amhistoryprof
        
        So you are saying that everything in the constitution, including your exercision of the 1st ammendment here, is worth getting behind EXCEPT the 2nd ammendment? I tend to think it should be all or nothing. How can we obey the rule of law if people like you can take a guaranteed and unrepealable (thank God the founding fathers thought of idiots like you) provision and pass legislation to weaken it? What you fail to realize is, if it can be done to the 2nd ammendment,why not infringe on other rights and censure free speech, or reinstate the quartering act, or just allow the police to break down your door and drag you to jail because your neighbor said you exercised free speech against the government? Sound ridiculous? Remember the Holocaust?
        
        Talk about Foxworthy material- look in the mirror! I’d rather be the butt of a Foxworthy joke than aligned with Hitler.
    - Sbrink8332
      
      Thats OK democrat, he will be able to protect you AND your rights because he carries.
    - Tbaughey
      
      Im a Democrat and i like my gun rights.. I think training should be a big part of ccp. everyone should have to take a basic traning thats hands on.
    - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6HOGWYMMLGOHIPTWGNPTQAHADM Lonny Taylor
      
      I beleive in the 2nd amd. I,m a country boy well 55 not aboy I just think they twist things around 2 much . Just like freedom of the press but I have guns 2 hunt and self protection but I got a perment but I don,t carry down main st. just thought I.d throw that in seems like everone has a good point dose,nt matter if its r/l wing its whos doing the right thing
    - http://www.facebook.com/badger281 Todd Barton
      
      If I choose to carry, I am not changing your ability to act as you wish. However, too many liberals are seeking to institute their ‘pacifist control’ over my actions. The ignorant shouldn’t rant about ranting. Labels are bullshit!!
    - Anonymous
      
      Why should one be concerned about whether someone else does not like the sharing of another’s expressed desires? Is that offensive to you? Where did you ever get the idea that that other people should have to guard their expression of likes, dislikes, and desires to avoid offending you? I am offended by your labeling someone a bully or a knuckle dragger. Is my being offended by your comments and labeling going to influence you to not say such things? Well, sun of a gun, I guess we’ll just both be offended. Can you live with that, or do you think “there ought to be a law.” Yeah, that’s the ticket. Make a law to use to stop people from offending others. We’ll call it the “anti-hate speech law.” And you’d say, “Damn the first amendment! It only applies when you agree with me!”
  - Lowridderracing
    
    Dellavar, with your beliefs you should move out of the US. You want to give up consitutional rights thats your perogotive, but keep you nose out of our rights. Just move away!!!
    - Dbluefish
      
      Way to go lowridderracing, we live in a country where everyone, regardless of their beliefs, religious or otherwise, can express their opinion and not be subject to the small minsedness of ignoramuses like you. I was in the Corps to protect those rights and you shall not take them away.
      - FirstTeam4life
        
        Semper Fi Dbluefish, 1-7 here from 2004-2010. Ignorant people such as Dellavar may have the right to express their views such as we do, wich we fought to keep and protect, and if they wish to fight to revoke our Rights as a US citizen then Dellavar i will GLADLY raise funds to send your un-american ass out of this country… Iraq perhaps? I have some brothers from the 1-7 who will be happy to greet you there im sure…
      - Rboyer3298
        
        Agree with you FirstTeam. I think if you can’t stand behind our troops, then you should stand in front of them. Thank you for your service. although it seams wasted on morons like Dellavar. It was appreciated by true Americans. God bless you.
      - Strangler
        
        Where did Dellavar say anything about the troops, or oppose 2A rights in any way? You guys are morons. He was saying that Wildmangood’s comment was obnoxious and nonsensical (conflating socialism and gun control? What?). Actually, pretty much anyone who throws around the word “Socialism” nowadays should just be ignored.
      - wonder worm
        
        I agree with you Strangler. The word “Socialism” is getting overused about as much as “hero” is.
      - Anonymous
        
        Over used doesn’t mean it is not applicable!
      - Grumpy
        
        Um, pretty sure they were directing their comments towards Idiothater…
      - idiot hater
        
        Enough jarheads. I for one could care less about your service. Most of you only join because you can’t get a real job. If you have any brains you would have finished high school at least and learned what the first and second amendment mean. And BTW, thanks for fight for my right to call you a jarhead.
      - Marine@rest
        
        You are aware that “Jarhead” isn’t something to be ashamed of aren’t you? Proud to be associated with that handle.
      - Indyearth
        
        To continue this, I will say nicely, debate– there are many over generalizations– logical fallacies, and personally heated opinions that this can easily run wild…
        
        There are people who are not competent enough, and should never own a firearm. Of those that could/should, there are those who should not be allowed to carry a firearm– openly or concealed.
        
        There are persons who entered military service as a ‘last resort’. Some, being raised and indoctrinated into a religion or mindset– do so out of idealism and/or belief. None of which precludes them being idiots, stupid, nor thrill seeking freaks as possibly implied above by others.
        
        Thank you to those who served. There are conflicts that I have not agreed with that they have participated in… Our opinions are our own, and sacred. The intent is everything.
        
        I am a well trained near pacifist who owns a gun, and has a permit to carry concealed. Whether I carry or not isn’t the point, I can if I feel it necessary, and have the right to do so. I am highly educated, have healthy respect for the powerful responsibility that comes with such a right…
        
        Someone above stating that criminals have all the firepower vs law abiding citizen is correct.. ASK the Brit who owns the weapons in England… Not the Police officers, not the competent citizen— No! The criminal. He/She will have much to say about that.
        
        To sum up: There are persons not fit mentally/psychologically prepared, fit, or mature with regards to the responsible use/ownership of a weapon– firearm or otherwise. There are laws and checks-and-balances to help that disparity.
        
        Removing the rights of everyone means giving Carte-Blanche to the criminal faction, and empowering them many fold…
        
        Keep in mind, just because someone passed their act 240 with psych exam to be a police officer, does not make them sane, or able… Too many have abused their power.
        
        Call me names (1st Amendment), own a gun (2nd), fight illegal search of person, home papers ( 4th), and do not incriminate yourself (5th)… Freedom is not a pick and choose thing! You cannot decide today, this is acceptable, then tomorrow you want it back or gone… Give it some thought!
      - Thanks#2
        
        WOW…. It is honestly disgusting that you would tell someone who stared death in the face for you that you don’t care about the shit they have done…. You disgust me.
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=4805023 Amit Kumar
        
        However, they did it while ‘just following orders’.
        
        That doesn’t exactly scream ‘fighting for our freedom’.
      - MMASeaDog
        
        Dear idiot hater:
        
        You actually have to pass the ASVB Test to get into the military. The test shows what your reading comprehension, math ability and mechanical aptitude is. For the record I served in the Navy Reserves for 12 years, graduated college and have a great job.
        
        In my opinion college degrees are overrated. Leadership skills learned in the military are equally valuable to a worth college education. Making tough decisions when you have been in harms way gives you a unique skill set to deal with pressure and making tough decisions in the civilian work place.
        
        Until you walked a mile in a soldiers or sailors boots you should learn to keep your uninformed and ignorant opinion about the people that serve and protect the USA to yourself.
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=4805023 Amit Kumar
        
        Generalizing is always what it is, a generalization. You can’t have lived someone elses life, so you can only theorize.
      - Sandman77
        
        you can always join a branch and find out for yourself whats its like,
      - Tehran444
        
        You may as a Marine calll one another “jarheads” but you as a jughead don’t meet that criteria. Donald R Hohman CWO(RET)USA POW. Semper Fi for my brother Marine’s.
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=4805023 Amit Kumar
        
        What is in a name? Except a thread derailment of course….
      - 64Driver
        
        idiot hater:
        
        I see you have no idea what it is to feel respect for your country and the desire to serve and protect it. It is ironic that you don’t understand that the only reason you have the right to say what you want is that you live in a FREE country because of those who are willing to serve and sacrifice so people like you can live in ignorant bliss.
        
        I personally carry concealed as do many and believe in our rights to do so. I also know the history behind the 2nd amendment and know we do not have a well-regulated militia, or militia at all, but do have a VOLUNTEER military force, so theoretically you fall into neither and perhaps should not carry yourself. Just a thought.
        
        I graduated both high school and college with multiple degrees and am an Army Officer flying the AH-64D Apache helicopter. Tell me I couldn’t get a job anywhere else and I will continue to laugh in your ignorant face as I do now. I feel sorry for you in the way you disrespect these servicemen whether you agree with their opinions or not. Have a nice life enjoying your freedom.
      - Anonymous
        
        I just read your post and I say RIGHT ON! I simply can’t understand so many of these, in my opinion, narrow minded people who seem so strongly against the values of our free country, for which many have fought and even died for. Thank you and yours for your service. (For those who wait also serve, big time!)
      - splashout 101
        
        You were close, Title 10 USC, section 311 All able bodied Americans from 17 to 45 years of age are members of the militia. all former members of the us armed forces are members of the militia until they reach 64 years of age. It’s the Law.
      - Anonymous
        
        Wow, Idiot Hater, how long did it take you to memorize that quote from a John Kerry speech?
      - johninmatteson
        
        Idiothater,
        
        Go ask Michelle for a tissue. Cry me a river Barack. You are the waste of time. So long in 2012.
        
        Tincan Sailor
        Trusty Shellback
        Vietnam 1965-66
        Sempre Fi to all USMC
      - Grumpy
        
        Idiothater,
        You may be on to something here…I joined because I couldn’t find a job…or, at least one I really liked…at the time. With three college degrees and working on a fourth, I consider myself relatively well educated. I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion rather I agree with it or not. Therefore, you Sir, are the idiot you ascribe to hate…the pain and sacrifice suffered by so many servicemembers can never be understood by a non-serving member of society…ever. In an average business climate, no employee will ever be expected to leave their families for more than a few days, and that is usually to some other domestic city that still has all the trappings of modern society, let alone be intentionally placed in harms way to defend the liberties of a population that doesn’t understand what is being offered to them, all with the expectation that those servicemembers are creating a country that will desire to befriend ours and not fantasize about our very destruction. With all that, we still salute smartly and press on because that is our job and I am incredibly proud of those servicemembers that are carrying the torch this day and all those in the future!
        
        I will admit that I certainly am no Rhodes Scholar, afterall, I retired from the USAF after 25 years as an enlisted man, but I am smart enough to know that if those of us that desire to defend and believe in our right to self protection must unite in order to further our cause (the continued ability to pursue our freedoms and passions). I believe in my country and what we have accomplished but also believe we are on a fast track to obsolescence through our own ignorance. Agree with me or not, that is my opinion.
      - WOP2
        
        Johninmatteson:
        Not really a reply, but rather a hearty “Welcome Home”, and Bravo Zulu from a Zoomie.
        WOP2
        Vietnam, 1973, Linebacker II
      - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_43NM7POAIUVHAQEFB3K55QJA7M Sherm
        
        To “idiot hater”
        If you could care less about those who served our country I have to assume you could care less about America as well. As an idiot hater you must hate yourself very much, you should get help for that. You should also be aware that because of the freedoms in our country you can leave, it’s quite possibe you can find another country with much more to hate.
      - Dennis the Menace
        
        Spoken like the true coward that you are. Please speak your opinion when the shit hits the fan so that I don,t mistakenly defend you.
      - magnum power
        
        You truly show your low IQ whenever you type and open your mouth! Your comment shows yuour total lack of knowledge of the militaty and the quality of the men and women who serve this country. It’s these brave men and women who daily, protect YOUR right to say totally moronic things. You leftists hate the military and all it stands for yet are more than happy to use them whenever you think they’ll serve your stupid ideas. You’re also too stupid to realize that it’s the military that protects this country and your right to say moronic things yet you’re too stupid to understand that. God Bless!
      - Simonson Connor
        
        Thanks for insulting some of the finest men and women on this planet. I know a lot of Marines and most of them have more degrees and schooling than any civilian can boast. If you don’t know what you’re talking about you shouldn’t be speaking at all. Semper Fi guys thanks for what you do.
      - Itprofx1
        
        idiot hater should hate him or herself, what a moron, they should let you run around in the desert as a target during target practice…
      - Ooh-Rah
        
        Semper Fi from Fox co
      - Guest
        
        BLT 2/7 Viet Nam Big Al
      - ARMED IN CHICAGO
        
        my money says Dellavar voted for the goof in the white house and probably thinks he is doing a good job. Bah bah little sheeple.
        2012 and the trash WILL be taken out.
  - http://twitter.com/LadyLibrtysMuse Alice
    
    “Guys like you”… that’s very condescending, Dellavar. You failed to give any justification for your position, why you think he’s a hindrance to fair gun rights, and are quick to want to deny him his rights based on … what?
    Do you disagree with wildmangood2000? Or just disapprove of the commenter as a person based on…. what? A passionate plea for constitutionalists to support one another’s rights?
    Just because a person is passionate in their beliefs, doesn’t mean you should bar them from their Constitutionally guaranteed/protected rights. Why would you assume Wildmangood2000 should be kept from his rights? He’s made no outrageous claims, called for no illegal or violent actions, and has merely stated that supporters of gun-rights should band together in a union to get a collective/larger voice for their issue. This is no less or no more than teachers do, machinists do, firefighters do… are you going to call for their rights to be infringed?
    Look to the message (without reading your own bias into it) and not the passion with which it’s delivered.
    Given the choice between a passionate supporter of my rights (wildmangood2000) and someone who’s quick to jump on the ‘for me but not thee’ bandwagon without supporting evidence (Dellavar), I’d much rather arm wildmangood2000. He’ll speak up for me if someone tries to do me wrong. I doubt I’m alone on that score.
  - Taco_Friendly
    
    Dellavar; you fail. gtfo. noob.
    Wildmangood2k; its called the NRA.
    Dbluefish; lowrider is expressing his opinion and should not be subjected to your closed-mindedness xD
    everyone else: dont feed the trolls
  - Wcj0616
    
    I bet you voted for Oracko Bahama
  - ARMED IN CHICAGO
    
    Moron, let me refresh your failing memory. THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
    
    My gun permit is the US Constitution.
  - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=4805023 Amit Kumar
    
    There is a constitutional right. What does it matter if you think he shouldn’t have access?
  - Dennis the Menace
    
    Agreed!!!!!!!!!!
- Rlbow99
  
  you are so right. All states should have the right to carry and all the laws should be the same for all states
- Lowriderracing
  
  How can a state take away our constitutional rights. #$#@%&%*%$ them states. Dont spend a dime there. Do not travel.boycott them. The supreme court needs to rectify this BS….
- makarov
  
  Obama is the person that pushed the country to allow us to carry in national parks now. It is up to the states to allow people to carry in there states. It is not up to the federal government. The supreme court just told the state that do not allow carry permit that it was infringement on the rights of there residents so it should be changed soon.
  - makarov
    
    sorry it was national forests not parks sorry for the mix up
    - Terryreno
      
      No it’s National Parks, you were right, expect in the states where you cant carry anyway.
- Emt56444
  
  WI is actually working on it right now. Looks like the bill requirement a permit is what the governor is going with.
- UAZ
  
  there is a union, it’s called the NRA. look it up sometime.
- Whammond
  
  There is a “union” in regards to gun owners… It’s called the NRA. You should be a member
- Funtran
  
  Being from the free, right to bear amrs state of Arizona the way I look at it is:
      There are three types of people in these repressed states that limit fire arms.
  These are the three types of citizens,
                                                           1- The Police
                                                             2- The criminals
                                                             3- The victims
  Which one of these are you good people. Remember when seconds count the Police are only minuted away. The main job of the police in these states are drawing chalk marks on the floor.   God bless the Great State of Arizona !!
  
                                                                 [email protected]
- Sheefer5
  
  look up DC v. Heller the supreme court is has ruled that it is your right to carry a gun!
  @facebook-512393569:disqus
  and it is not obama it is your state!
- Stanley Turner
  
  LOL … Another dumb republican with a gun.
- Anonymous
  
  There is a saying “ your rights end where mine begin “ simply put yes you should be able to have a gun or a cigarette, but don’t go around shooting people for no reason or blowing smoke in their face. Isn’t that easy?
- Swatrn
  
  Hey,there is a union……it’s called the NRA!
- Jon1elberg
  
  There already is a gun owners union, it’s called the NRA.
- Jim
  
  Wisconsin now does have a Concealed Weapons Permit process. It doesn’t go into effect until 1 November 2011, but the law has been signed. It’s a shall issue law with the ability to accept other state permits. The other state permits that are acceptable will not be revealed until 1 November 2011 as well.
- http://www.facebook.com/djkane35949 David J Kane
  
  Wisconsin has now passed a cc law effective 11-1-11
- Wcj0616
  
  I totally agree where do we sign up?
- yamomma
  
  I completely agree about the violating of the 2nd Amendment….its ok for WI & IL to enforce a law like that and the federal government completely supports them…on the other hand california changes its laws for marijuana sales and yet the federal government swoops in and still puts people in jail. That doesn’t make sense at all
- WOP2
  
  In the past seven months, Wisconsin has come out of the dark ages, established concealed carry (it went into effect yesterday, the 1st of November, and reciprocity with 25 states, including my own home state. Ilinois is the last holdout, and between Heller and McDonald, I see that changing soon.
- Vermonter
  
  I find it quite amusing that the most “socialist” state in the union allows residents and visitors to carry concealed weapons without a permit.
  
  Loaded handguns are fine. A loaded deer rifle in your car will get you into trouble
- Twobumknees
  
  It didnt start with Obama look in to who was in office when it turned in to a no carry state there is a lot of people to blame on this on including the people for not sticking up together to change this stupid law.
- libertyrequired
  
  Old statement I know; but , WMG2k here is actually the knee jerk, more mouth than brains constituents gun lobbyists fear. Obama/socialism……….saddling these jingo right wing objectives to defend our 2nd amendment rights demonizes it for the moderate middle.
  
  More Charlton Heston; way less Teg Nugent folks.
Mathias754

I am a Pennsylvania Concealed Carry License Holder ( also ACT 235 Certified Lethal Weapons Agent) – I’m not certain that your state reciprocity map is accurate? I recently identified myself in a telephone call to the Delaware State Police prior to visiting their state. They merely asked that I be safe while traveling in and through their state?
- Anonymous
  
  The Delaware State Police do not handle concealed carry reciprocity. It is handled by the Delaware Attorney General. And according to their website they do not have reciprocity with Pennsylvania.
  
  http://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/crime/concealedweapons.shtml
  
  Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
  - jjonmc
    
    I am a DE Resident and work in PA. DE does not recognize a PA permit(I believe it has to do with the fact that DE is may-issue and requires an NRA certified course and live fire target requirements but PA does not). Most PA residents I know that carry in DE do so with a Florida non-resident permit as DE and FL are reciprocal since FL requires a class as well(I have DE, PA & FL permits myself)
Jim Eischeid

Does MINN RECONIZE A IOWA PERMIT
Jackson Daniels80

@ Wildmangood2000 yea but in WI you can open carry, One guy open carry’s an AK47. Youtube it!! Its pretty much a constitutional carry. However the issue is what to do while your driving through WI.
Sportsternut

I hold a permit from my state of residence, PA and have relatives in NJ but am paranoid about taking a firearm there. There was a young fellow who was sentenced to seven years for transporting two hand guns in locked cases in the trunk of his car. He was moving at the time and basically transporting his personal property from one residence to another. WTF! Maybe it didn’t help his cause that he went on Judge Napolitans’s TV show and they both mocked the judge before sentencing. Thank God for Gov. Christie! He pardoned the kid and fired the judge. I’m still wary though. People who actually commit crimes don’t get that harsh of a sentence. Will only retire to a state with shall issue law. Eliminates some nice goegraphy (CA, DE, and NJ). Oh well FL and AZ are fine.
- Mathias754
  
  Interesting thoughts and comments…and even though mentioning AZ being fine – where were all of those fine licensed citizens when the latest tragedy occurred there? I certainly hope that they weren’t standing by, in the crowd, and quivering?! My position has always been to carry is to protect…and that is not just limited to my family, friends, and loved ones, but to those in my community when an “active shooter” raises their ugly head. God Bless!!!
Goodguy

Got my ccw permit in florida, moved to ohio, now what? does that tranfer, anyone know?
scurby

carry me i have had a mi. cpl for sometime now. can i carry in all 35 states listed on map or am i missing something.
scurby

i have a mi. cpl can i carry in all 35 states listed or am i overlooking something
smogman62

I can’t make heads or tails out of the map, can anyone tell me If I can ccw in FL with my MN permitt. Or do I need to get a ccw permit from FL. Thanks for your help…
- Anonymous
  
  No, Florida does not accept Minnesota. To see that on the map all you would need to do is click on the state of Minnesota and then Florida shows up Red which means you can’t carry there.
- Asvr2
  
  If one can not figure out this program, maybe you should not have a weapon……………
- Kgman9310
  
  As far as the map shows, Your MN. permit is not reconized in FL. It looks like you will have to obtain a FL. non residence permit.
- Bubba316
  
  you need a florida permit
Fslater102

Re: What Wildmangood2000 said I agree 100% But add NJ to that list. Before you can get a CCW here You have to have just about been shot dead by a criminal, with another one shooting you while your lying dead in your coffin. Actually in NJ before you get a CCW you have to prove “Justifyable need to the local PD chief and the a county superior court judge. This equates to NO ONE GETS IT!
Saberman64

Wisconsin has open carry ” no permit”, Michigan also has open carry, and i think no permit? so can I open carry in Michigan? as a Wisconsin resident.
Shess66

i live in VA and have my CCW permit, anyone know why NJ is so tough to get a non resident permit ?
Ctallmen

I am more Dem then Rep. But I know if you take Guns away from the honest people only the criminals will have them! plan and to the point 2nd amendment it not a Obama thing! it’s a State law not a Federal !!
JOHN roe sr.

Is it true that 29 states, and if true which 29 states allow vetrans of the armed forces to carry concealed with only a DD214 and a one time fee.
- Anonymous
  
  I’ve never heard of that.
Hjbrianbhio123

How about instead of being crazy political and crap we need to get together and work on this logically. Emotion gets nowhere.
Spook

A proud democrat.. FDR was a proud democrat. Johnson was a proud democrat. Obama was a proud democrat. It’s the proud democrats that are ruining our country with all there foolish laws, regulations and poor understanding of the Constitution. What we don’t need is more proud democrats and there nanny attitudes and corrupt unions.
wcnorton

FYI… for those of you living in SC; obtaining your SC CWP and Florida Non-Resident CWP will make you legal in 38 states as well as some of our closest neighbors such as Georgia, Alabama, and Mississippi who do not honor SC CWP but honor Flaroida NR CWP’s. Well worth it to obtain both if you travel a lot like myself. Hope this was useful.
wcnorton

Hey Chuck, if your daughter, mother, sister, etc. was walking broke down on a back road and attacked by a rapists would you rather her have a gun, or would your rather her have a politically correct cell phone, condom, or hey…. maybe a rape whistle? Talk about imposing on others rights. What gives you the right to tell someone who’sbeing attacked they can’t protect themselves? I’d carry a cop instead of a gun but they’re too heavy. Last but not least, people like yourself often claim that others carry guns because they’re compensating for something. You’re exactly right. The elderly, the average woman, and mean like myself who are 5’7 160 pounds are compensating for the fact that we’re smaller and weaker than the average violent attacker. Is your “morally acceptable” philosophy “Survival of the Fittest”? That’s what you’re telling the folks I mentioned above if you take away their right to self-protection.
Bctampa69

the 2 amendment is the right to bare arms, if you choose not to then that’s your right. but a firearm should be allowed to those who are or can be responsible with it. just because i carry a firearm doesn’t mean i go around saying hey mess with me. no it just states that if i need it i have it,, rather have it and not need it than not have it and need it.
Chefranger

So since I have my CCW for NV. I am welcome to carry in all the light blue states, Is that right?
Dsinn7

Pennsylvania now has Iowa listed as a state they honor.
- Anonymous
  
  The maps have been updated to reflect this. Thanks.
Laurence Almand

Some of these states have never heard of the Fourth Amendment, which requires that ALL states honor the licenses and permits and laws of all other states. In addition, Wisconsin and Ilinois are directly violating the Constitutional right to “bear arms” i. e. carry guns. Suppose Wisconsin stated it would not honor the dirvers’ licenses of Illinois? How long would that law last in the courts?
- Slvr_bullet
  
  You’re thinking of Article 4 section 1.
  Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
- CharonPDX
  
  Kind of like how many states do not honor some states marriage licenses?
Tech36

The right to bear arms is guaranteed by the second amendment. however, there is no clause that says you must have a weapon. So, for those of you who are opposed to firearm ownership, don’ t get one. For those of us who wish to exercise our right to own firearms, do so. For all of us, be careful. What we don’t need is a “war” of right and wrong. One day there will be a real need for all of us to unite, and I hope we are all armed on that day.
Spike_dawgg

Governor Walker of Wisconsin wants to ban the First Amendment and possibly (if he has the votes) Amendments 3-10. Wisconsin is NOT an American state.
Bankwalker042101

Ok traveling from Ms. to Al toGa is ok but if I go into SC where do I display my gun and suppressos?
Madhzrx

Why is it that IA honors permits from MN, but MN does not Honor permits from IA?
Spacesec

I have a cwp from Arizona and moved to Texas, I have changed my address with the AZ. DPS to notify I have moved to TX.
can I still carry concealed in Tx. until the AZ. permit expires or do I have to get a TX. permit, I am becoming a resident of TX.
Spacesec

I have a cwp from Arizona and moved to Texas, I have changed my address with the AZ. DPS to notify I have moved to TX.
can I still carry concealed in Tx. until the AZ. permit expires or do I have to get a TX. permit, I am becoming a resident of TX.
jenni

i can’t get a permit so i can protect myself from the criminals in la thats shit!
Chef

Great map!!! This should take care of all your ?????
Pdeluca3

Wisconsin passed the concealed weapons law the governor will sign it in to law this week
CapnRob

Beginning July 1, 2011 Nevada will honor CCWs issued to residents of Arizona and Kentucky.
CapnRob

Another update which should be made discovered when selecting “Permits Honored by State” tab:

Arizona currently honors CCWs issued by ALL states and territories. Further, no permit is required AT ALL, of residents or non-residents alike, to carry concealed in most places within the state. There are a few exceptions to this, CCW holders can carry in a few places non-holders can not and there are places, such as courtrooms, federal buildings, etc… where NO ONE other than L.E. can carry. Refer to AZDPS website for details.

All in all, the AZ Resident Permit is currently the most recognized in the nation.
Charie

Wildmangood, there is already a “union” for gun owner rights. It is the National Rifle Association
(NRA). They are guarding your gun owner rights and are primarily the reason many states allow concealed carry. Everyone who feels that the second amendment is important should belong the this organization.
Djmw

While Hawaii does have a “may issue” law, I’ don’t believe it is actually possible to obtain a concealed carry permit.
Smgouch

Gents,
A lot of you seem to have forgotten that your comments should be about gun rights. I am a lady who has had guns sinces the age of 10. I have a nice collection in my gun safe from handguns to rifles. I like to target practice and hunt but age and a bum knee have put a temporary hold on that activity. I have had concealed carry permits both in the state of Oregon and Washington since the age of 22 (now 65). Protect your rights, practice gun safety, teach your children gun respect,and use the political machine to change what you don’t approve!
sgn
- CharonPDX
  
  I am curious how you have had concealed carry permits in Oregon and Washington for 43 years, when the Oregon has only OFFERED concealed carry permits for 22 years… (Washington, I’ll buy, they’ve had “shall issue” for a very long time.)
Boaz

I live in Arkansas. Please color New Mexico “Blue” as they have recently given reciprocity with us.
Thanks!
Visited with a gun enthusiast from Wisconsin in May. Said there were more gun owners than known and is only a matter of time before Wisconsin becomes a “Shall Issue.” Let us hope so.
- Anonymous
  
  The maps have been updated to reflect this.
Tmdbroncos

After calling the Nebraska State Patrol Headquarters and the Colorado Department of Public Safety I can say this reciprocity map is bullshit. Neither state will honor any other state’s Permit to Carry a Concealed Weapon.
Ocean37

As of today, July 1st 2011, Nevada will accept Arizona’s CWP. Good news.!
- Anonymous
  
  The maps have been updated to reflect this.
Tombainter

why do these dicussion posts always seem to degenerate to politics,religion? i will not go there personally. some people in il.just want the legal right to protect the lives of their family from a ever increasing violent crime problem. it is getting to be a sad world that we live in
Tombainter

why do these dicussion posts always seem to degenerate to politics,religion? i will not go there personally. some people in il.just want the legal right to protect the lives of their family from a ever increasing violent crime problem. it is getting to be a sad world that we live in
Lejeune911

What is the issue with states like Virginia, West Virginia, and Ohio not recognizing Indiana’s CC permit?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Tim-Montoya/1402180006 Tim Montoya

Ridiculous how crazy it is to defend yourself in our country.
Kbroz

I have just received my permit in Texas. Want to carry a In the Waist Band 45. . I am 6’4″ 225lbs 17 yrs old – former Marine. All recommendations and feedback welcome
Billybob

Looks like Wisconsin has finally allowing CCL’s. You all there is too much politics in this gun issue for it to be a part line thing. Get over it and realise that whether you are a Dem, Rep, Independant or a Tea party person its YOU YOURSELF that makes up your mind as to whether you like guns or dont…Just dont paint any one party with the same paint brush. Not everyone sees it the same way as you or i do and when we ( you or I ) start taking the line of ” If you dont agree with me then you are against me” just makes the other side dig in deeper… In other words PLAY NICE!
Dpcool222

In reference to taking some ideas from democrats and some from republicans goes, how about this-they ALL read the CONSTITUTION and the BILL OF RIGHTS, and just do what it says??
ARMED CHICAGOAN

THANKS for updating the map. I screen shot this and sent it to Governor Quinn of Illinois with the heading “How does it feel to be a Communist?” I expect that shortly, the Illinois State Police will be raiding my home.
lonny

To Wildmangood2000 I agree bill &hillary haave been trying to change the 2nd amd. for years trying 2 bring it up in the UN change tis & that looks like they ,d understand when a citizen can,t get a weapon only the criminals will have themI think most of them are full of bull [email protected]
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6HOGWYMMLGOHIPTWGNPTQAHADM Lonny Taylor

I enjoyed reading u,r coments the amendments I belong 2 the nra and like discussing differnt veiws on subjects also learn alot 2 I,ve read ualls coments i,ll have agree with parts of all uall,s coments some or most parts makes alot of comon sence take care all lonny
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6HOGWYMMLGOHIPTWGNPTQAHADM Lonny Taylor

I enjoyed reading u,r coments the amendments I belong 2 the nra and like discussing differnt veiws on subjects also learn alot 2 I,ve read ualls coments i,ll have agree with parts of all uall,s coments some or most parts makes alot of comon sence take care all lonny
John Burns1950

If i’m traveling through the states which show permit honored, does that mean I can carry or that I have to apply for a CCW permit in that state prior to traveling.
Troy30047

as a gun owner we have to look at the big picture. There is always going to be a law against something or the guys in the big chair can’t make their political money. But if that looked at the laws on the books and inforced the the right way then we law bidding citizens can express or right to onw and carry without recourse.
Babypuppy216

glad to have this app and obama is secretly trying to take all of our rights away starting with the 2nd adm.
Jonescolsc

Illinois law should be declared unconstitutional. Laws restricting gun possesion are designed to protect the criminal, not honest Americans. Criminals are carrying the weapons illegally to start with. Passing additional laws doesn’t effect them. It only effects the honest person who is trying to obey the law. Wake up America, Quit protecting the criminal. When I see a store that has a no concealed weapons sign, I go somewhere else. All Americans should not shop in these stores. Criminals who are carrying a gun illegally to start with ignore the sign. Only honest people are effected. I know it’s difficult but support your Country and honest Americans and shop somewhere else.
Billy Bob

Just think what Americans have seen change over the past 235 plus years. Not to mention the accelerated development of scientific research and computer intellegence. The future is not as easy to foresee, especially the way liberal minded thought is deviating from our past. Think about this…all present day crimes will no longer exist. Prisons will be deemed unconstitutional and crimes as WE know them now will be stricken from the books. The belief that smaller government will be squshed like a small innocent insect. And you can kiss away any personal privacy and indivual independence. Believe It. You & I won’t be around to see it… But it is headed that direction. FAST
red dog

Forgive me for forgetting the doctor’s name, however the opinion/diagnosis is spot on. A renowned psychiatrist recently opined that liberals are mentally ill. If one stops and thinks about that statement, it makes complete sense. I have the right to own and cary a firearm. If one doesn’t argee with their right to own and carry, then don’t own and carry. The mental illness in this argument is the belief that their personal belief should be imposed on others.
Anonymous

Please read and understand both meanings here about who are outlaws and who we are making outlaws by passing certain legislation throwing out our right to possess firearms…

If guns are outlawed – then only outlaws will have guns.
Anonymous

If guns are outlawed – only the OUTLAWS will have guns….read that and then read it again – different laws make good mild-mannered citizens who simply want to excercise their right to bear arms and be prepared (not out looking for a fight – not trigger happy) just be prepared to protect themselves and their family…different laws make THOSE folks outlaws if they choose to arm themselves as the REAL outlaws who mean us harm do. WHAT are we really regulating and who are we making into criminals. The criminals are not LEGALLY allowed to own firearms once convicted of a crime even when they return to society. Don’t make American citizens outlaws for wanting to go through the LEGAL process of owning a firearm.

IF GUNS ARE OUTLAWED – ONLY THE OUTLAWS will HAVE GUNS! (and that will be everyone – as those who shouldn’t have them are outlaws and those who tried to obtain them for proper purposes and through legal means will then be outlaws too)
http://www.facebook.com/big.gay.al Albert Lowe

Someone needs to fix the map. I don’t know about any other states, but both Michigan and Indiana honor ALL other states’ resident permits.
- Anonymous
  
  That’s exactly what the maps show.
john

i have an Oregon ccw current and a NM ccw in prosses, and i need to travel thru Ca,.
will mi run into problems if stoped?
Dsinn7

New Hampshire now honors Iowa
- Anonymous
  
  Thanks. The maps have been updated to reflect this.
AlexGBLUEyes

First thing first Semper Fi. Gun rights should be taught in school and excercised by all. I”m from Ky and currently stationed in Tx. Here you don’t have to have a permit to carry in your truck because it is an extention of your home. I dont think any legal american should have to pay for a permit to carry a gun. Crime here is less because 7 out of every 10 vehicles has a weapon in it. Let god sort em out!
CharonPDX

Minor quibble, although you don’t have a category for it…

Oregon is a “shall issue to residents, MAY issue to non-residents.” If you’re a non-resident, you have to give a “compelling reason” why you want one. And you have to live in a directly bordering state (Washington, Idaho, Nevada, California only.) It’s up to the individual Oregon county sheriff’s offices to decide where in the bordering states they accept from, so if you’re in a bordering area near multiple Oregon counties, you can pick the one you think will be more likely to grant.) For example, Multnomah county will only accept applications from Washington residents (specifically those who live near Multnomah county, although they don’t detail the exact requirements.) Clatsop county specifically says they accept from “Pacific, Grays Harbor or Wahkiakum County Washington” But it appears that Tillamook county (which is on the coast and doesn’t border any other states,) will consider applications from ANY bordering state!
Mel

As of 8-15-2-11, Louisiana does not honor Florida non resident permits for residents of Louisiana. I think l got that right.
- Anonymous
  
  Their site still shows them as having reciprocity.
  
  http://www.lsp.org/handguns.html#recip
Terry

Wildmangood2000:Yes, a total infringement of the 2nd amendment. You MUST have a Firearms Owner Identification card to purchase, carry, display, own or transport a firearm, or to purchase ammunition. I lived there 20+ years and I REFUSED to sign up.
wonder worm

Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are two different manuscripts and two whole different meanings.
wonder worm

I am a liberal democrat and I dont want to take our guns away. So there goes your argument right out the window.
wonder worm

you are an idiot
wonder worm

and you must be an idiot Repugnican
Jumpherbones69

If I have a conseal carry is it legal to carry it in a semi
RD Knowles

In regards to Illinois and Wisconsin, if they won’t let you carry, don’t go into the state carrying a weapon (CCW). It is the law. There are many states that you can carry. Basically, change the law, don’t just cry about it! SLANCBP…BTW, you can take the alternative and carry anyway. Not necessarily the bright way.

For you Marines, Semper Fi! Please remember we did fight for other people’s rights, we might not agree with some, but we did it none the less. We did it without questioning, and with honor. Someone has to step up to the plate. Lead, follow or get out of the way…………………….
Having said that. It is sometimes hard to understand the unconscious thought patterns of some!

Truthseeker…..an interesting snippet.
Larry Rhude

I too, fought for our rights, and I think everyone has a right to say what he thinks of any law, but he has no right to call those who disagree with him names.I am a firm believer in the second amendment especially. Those who wrote the constitution had an excellent understanding of repressive government. They fought a war to first attain our rights because we were being denied almost any rights. The current government is acting very much like the English government did back then. They have the idea that “they” know better than us “common” people. Remember Obama’s remark that he wished he could just rule the country without answering to anyone else? Another important basic truth is that the founders of our country based the Declaration of Independence on GOD given rights and morals. Read the first two paragraphs if not the whole thing. It is short. Same for the Constitution. At the time of the writing of the Constitution, 98.4% of Americans were Protestant Christians, 1.4% Catholics, and .2% other, mostly Jews. There were an insignificant number of atheists and agnostics. Only two of the delegates were not professing Christians. Ben Franklyn was an agnostic, but he still believed in and touted the morals of Christianity. The Constitutional Convention started with a THREE HOUR prayer session. We need to reclaim America for Christ and much of this garbage government will be straightened out.
Larry
- Ali
  
  “The current government is acting very much like the English
  government did back then. They have the idea that “they” know better
  than us “common” people.”What do you mean back then… they are doing it more than ever now. I should know.Signed- A limey who lives in a country where even pepper spray is outlawed, and you can go inside for using “excessive force” on a criminal.
  - Ali
    
    That should have put new lines in between the quote and my reply.
  - Larryrhude
    
    I see what you mean. By “back then” I was thinking of when they actively had armed soldiers all around to control the people, forced residents to house and feed soldiers, etc. But I agree that Brittan currently has really screwed its citizens with their confiscations and severe laws that leave the honest citizens unable to protect themselves effectively. I pray for your country and others like it. I hope you and others are fighting to correct this horrible injustice. Does NRA have a branch there or is there some other org fighting for your rights? Love to hear more from you.
- Sick of Christer Taliban
  
  Shove your fascist “Christian” bullshit up your ass, sideways.
  - Rsuitor118
    
    Learn to spell the word “Christian”; also, why don’t you clean up your language with some intelligent conversation?
  - One39two
    
    Get your head out of your own ass
  - The Cisco Kid
    
    Christian?!?! Read “Erick Von Danken’s” books LIke “Chariots of the Gods”, etc.
    Makes a lot of sense like Von Danken I was also born & raised as a Catholic going thru R.C, schools. But Von Danken’ will make stop and think!!!
  - Jlelandthomas
    
    Christer your very last name spells trouble to me and your language alike we need morals Christian or just what ever you are my family has defended this country in all wars to be free of getting hung for for saying I believe that is why we are here if you don’t like it then I personally invite you to leave it and if I see you around my little grand daughter or son I will put at the earths end for beings like you and we walk to the same walk in this country no matter what we believe as long as it has positive morals at least I know what my 1 through 4 amendments stand for and mean to a real American
    Jlelandthomas
MyAmerica

I have to wonder will NY even consider more concealed guns during the 10 year aniversary of 9-11? I know we know how to handle ourselves, I’m also sure that the NYPD doesn’t know how to handle themselves with armed citizens. Good luck with that guys.
Anonymous

The “Golden Rule” is my getalong bible with a small difference, Do unto others as long as they will let you!!!
Curt

House bill H.R. 822 now in process will allow CCW Holders rights in all ststes that issue CCW’s. That’s 49, ILstill a commie state with CA right behind. Contact your House Rep to vote this bill through!
- http://www.facebook.com/lorin.c.partain Lorin Chane Partain
  
  I live in CA, it’s nothing like Illinois. The law in CA is that the local sheriff departments, and police departments, if you live within city limits have jurisdiction over who can get a permit and who will not. So in CA the state law is ambivalent to the issue. If you live in a place like San Francisco you can forget it, but I live in Sacramento and was easily approved. So depends entirely on the county and that sheriff’s policy.
xdmowner615

Umm this is confusing because I select my state and all the states but 4 are lit up… I know this is not correct information.. any assitance? Iowa Resident here
- xdmowner615
  
  ok correction it was my computer that was messed up sorry for the wrong post…
- xdmowner615
  
  ok correction it was my computer that was messed up sorry for the wrong post…
geronimotwo

does anyone know what states issue a lifetime non resident pistol permit?
BOBFROMBC

I KNOW COLORADO DOES NOT ISSUE NON RESIDENT PERMITS.
MY QUESTION IS : DOES COLORADO RECOGNIZE AN ARIZONA PERMIT?

BOBFROMBC
Anonymous

To Bruce_in_San_Jose and Truthseeker: RIGHT ON! Keep it up. I still stand by my earlier post, and YES, I have read the history of our early country and the Constitutional convention. My facts are correct except for one thing, I Called Ben Franklyn an agnostic and, as Truthseeker pointed out, he was a deist. A deist is one who believes there is a God on the evidence of reason and nature only. Ben believed in God, he just didn’t know much about Him and didn’t commit. If you don’t believe that there is a God look at a newborn baby and explain to me how that happened, other than the basics of conception. Billions of cells began as two conjoined cells and differentiated themselves into the thousands of body parts that make us what we are; coincidence, evolution, what?? Try throwing a bunch of parts into a bucket and see if a clock evolves.
Zach

God Bless the USA, the gun-carrying law-abiding citizens, and the men and women who protect and fight for those rights every day.
Wiegandrichardson

what does a green state mean
- 1911colt
  
  that is the state you marked where you held your permit.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W7TALS3BRC7KZ2SOERFUHNA554 X RIDER

Hr 218 is a carry in all 50 states, is this addressed on this site?
- jigger
  
  I don’t believe it’s actually “addressed” here, with exception to the comments. This is mostly a site that show’s different states reciprocity in conceal carry permitting.
Erik.

After clicking on Oregon (because I have a non-resident Oregon License to Carry (LTC), it still states in the “Permit not honored” list, “Oregon” among other states where it’s not honored. I certainly believe that my Oregon LTC is honored in Oregon, so it’s more than likely a glitch.
Holabird Super Spook

My family has over three hundred years of military service in the U.S. Armed Forces, most with degrees and three of which were Presidents. College isn’t for everyone though. As a Counter -intelligence Agent for ten years I used to hunt down the likes of “Idiot Hater”! Lucky for him and others of his ilk I’m out. Gee Wizz, I guess I’ll just ask the “Marines” if they would like to take my place.
Jessicacage10

I enjoyed reading what everyone had to say, all I know is that this country is truly great
because everyone is able to speak their mind. There is no right or wrong only freedom
so enjoy it and stop the hate. Be proud be American
Axel417

Wow, people actually know how to spell and use grammar on this website. I think my opinion of gun rights advocates has changed for the better.
Smdevine

I have a Missouri CCL but now live in Michigan. Is my Missouri CCL good in Michigan?
Sayianjim

Is WI. gonna honor permits from other states when they start to get offer them on Nov.?
Tbill60

This Map needs to be updated. As of Nov 1 2011 Wissonsin CCW will be Honored in several States
Amarquezjr

Is this site out of date? Arizona’s website says that CA does NOT honor it’s CCW permit.
Bernie

Does anyone know why there is no reciprocity between Virginia and Georgia?
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7W3IT3JYTKGFC43WRPDRWALBJ4 Daddy Got A Gun
  
  Virginia requires training and won’t honor Georgia. Georgia is a mutual reciprocity state…. you honor ours we’ll honor yours.
Benji24601

Does Washington honor a Montana permit? “States that honor my permit” says no, but “Permits honored by state” says yes…
Dennis the Menace

Google your state and the state your seeking reciprocity with. That’s the best way on-line. Place a call to the State Police of the state your seeking information about and ask them. that’s the best way!!!
bigdollars99

Are you guys sure Rhode Island is a “Shall Issue” State?
Mc Craig

I would like to Thank the city of Olympia,WA for granting me full legal access to defend myself-if need be. 5 years for $50.00. My old state of California-Los Angeles are shit heads.
Gang members and thugs have more rights then me. I feel like a real America now. CC
Denny Rector

I have read some of the comments. I am surprise we are attacking each other in this area of comments. I thought this part of the site for comments for the right to bear arms. No I’m not talking wear short sleeve shirts either.. I believe a person has the right to carry if the wish, if not then they don’t have too. No one should get upset if one has a firearm on them if it be concealed or open carry. I carry about 98% of the time. In the years that I have carried, I have had one incident with carrying my firearm. It was cleared up with a phone call to the corperate office of a business. The company was attempting to enforce two policies and one can be enforced. We are to be adults on here, I think it is time we show people that we are adults. I respect everyones opinion but it is how you tell your opinion. Thank you
Ashie_ma20

where do the money go to when paying for gun permit as an ohio resident
- Ashie_ma20
  
  please reply asap.. doing a research paper
  - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KVS52PYPJAGDWLJLGN4OXU4LN4 Humza D
    
    Ashie, it would go to the State of Ohio’s General Fund.
Theglims

I have a CCW resident permit from Florida. How can i legally transport my weapon through states that do not honer my license…….JG
- Rbrandt51
  
  Unloaded in the trunk
  - MadmaxUSA
    
    ammo should likewise be transported in the trunk in a separate and locked container.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7VLRF6XMS4R5W7K4PENKCWYHJM Mike
  
  A person shall be entitled to transport a firearm from any place where he may lawfully possess and transport such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and transport such firearm if the firearm is unloaded and in a locked container. In vehicles without a locked container, the unloaded firearm shall be in a locked box other than the glove compartment or console.
  - Garyneil
    
    Absolutely stupid! I can see it now, “uhhh, Mr. crook, would you please wait a minute while I find my key for the lock box.” Really stupid. I won’t lock my gun up for anybody.
    - Guest
      
      I feel the same. I travel through all 48 states as a truck driver. I carry a handgun that is banned in the state of CA for anyone to own. I go there all the time. I am from AZ where you don’t need a permit to open carry or conceal.
      - Gilly4410
        
        I learned some years ago at a DOT seminar put on by Fred Pryor Seminars that DOT regulations state that you as a truck driver can not carry a weapon “AT ALL”, CWP permit or not. Has that changed?
      - MikeJoe
        
        There is NO DOT regulation addressing the carrying of guns in a commercial vehicle. You just have to obey the state laws. Many truck drivers are always thinking they can’t legally carry in a commericial vehicle. This is total BS. Now, a very small number of companies prohibit their drivers from carrying per company policy, but if you get caught the most they can do is fire you. Personally I would never drive for a company like that. I have carried in a commercial vehicle for 20 years, been observed carrying by a DOT cop, and there has never been a problem.
      - MikeJoe
        
        Ask your instructor to show you the regulation. You guys carry those little regulation books with you. If you can find anything about carrying firearms in the D.O.T. manual, I will give you my truck and next years paycheck. Don’t listen to other drivers, look yourself. Any DOT officer will tell you it depends on the state. If you have a carry permit, you are fine. Remember if the sign says “No Weapons Allowed” then you can’t go there.
      - N8imprb
        
        DOT disallows a firearm to be carried inside a commercial vehicle of any kind.
      - timb
        
        Cite the DOT regs that mention that please. I’ve never found it.
      - Mjkey6
        
        the dot disallows so many things anymore that they probably have a law disallowing themselves from disallowing anything, Sorry but screw the DOT, no matter if they say I can or can’t carry a loaded firearm or not or even if i can’t carry an unloaded one I wouldn’t care.
        
        What do you think they are going to do if I were to get threatened? It’s still self defense buddy. If I or anyone else lives and works in our vehicles they are considered our places of residence, so to all the criminals out there go ahead and try to break into my house, see how fast you fall to the ground bleeding from a gunshot wound!
        
        Try again Mr Legislator, incompetent buffoon!
      - Onlyfriend
        
        That is where are wrong. The DOT has no such law or regulation, however each state has laws pertaining to the transportation and CCW’s. Commercial Motor Vehicles are not specifically excluded from transporting a weapon.
        This is a myth the Trucking Companies have been for years to discourage drivers from carrying a concealed weapon. The companies can ban this activity in their employee policies.
        
        Don’t argue with me do your own research.
      - ABACAS
        
        I agree with the boycott approach. Just as I refuse to shop in any store where my gun is not permitted, I refuse to travel in States where my gun is not permitted. Loss of revenue is what gets the attention of business owners and politicians alike. Refusing them revenue from my pocket is the only way to win freedom for all Americans.
      - Gene
        
        If you drive respoonsibly, and there is no reason to be stopped by the “authorities”, what freaking difference does it make WHAT you are carrying WHERE?!!!!
      - Gene
        
        I’m not a typist, that is meant to be responsibly.
        Duh.
      - Cgrube
        
        Please cite regulation…. This is a urban myth made up by trucking co. to keep you from having a gun in the truck. I researched this 2 yrs ago and all the replies stated that gun laws for cmv were regulated by the state.
      - Scheib
        
        In accordance with DOT 173.54 Forbidden Explosives, subparagraph (f) states:(f) A loaded firearm (except as providedin 49 CFR 1544.21949 CFR Pertains to Aviation Personnel and those allowed to Carry on Commerdial Aircraft
      - MadmaxUSA
        
        Thanks for the research but I believe that 49 CFR 1544.21949 pertains to common carriers or other businesses who transport “Forbidden Explosives” for profit. If the intent were to disallow private citizens from transporting their personal firearms then no one would be able to transport their firearms in their personal vehicles at all.
    - ARMED in CHICAGO
      
      well if thats how you feel, come to Illinois. But make sure there is an envelope next to your unlocked gun box that has your bond money in it as they WILL lock you up,take your car AND your gun. While its hard to do,swallow your pride and comply with SOME of the laws. Jail and Prison food PLUS the loss of ANY AND ALL of your CCW permits is NOT worth being a hard head.
      - Rlrork55
        
        Even in IL the case doesnt have to be locked. Unloaded and in a case, zippered is fine and a loaded clip can be in the case, just not in the gun. Also the center console is now considered a legal case.
      - Robinlovesthemgeorgiadawgs
        
        I’m just a Southern Peach looking for a good website to get advice on what kind of gun should I have for protection, then I come across this. I thought only, “us” females put down each other in forums. lmao Anyway, just to make it ALL easier, do this… Put yourself in a Policeman’s shoes for a minute. Imagine pulling over someone for either speeding, a light out, or for what ever reason. If not you being the Policeman, then what if it were your Son, Grandson, etc. Now, how would you answer the questions, or reply to the above?? Just something to think about?? Have a great day, guys!! Robin/From Bulldawg Nation Gooo Dawgs!!!
      - Kanerman69
        
        I can see where your going with that BUT the point of having a permit and carrying LEGALLY as a US CITIZEN is to defend yourself against those who would seek harm against you or your family, friends, strangers in a 7-eleven at 1am on a tues……whatever the case may be. Criminals don’t give a damn about the law, thats why they are criminals and if a cop (you, your son, daughter, cousin, 4th uncle twice removed….whoever) makes a stop and its some jerk-off that just knocked over a liqour store and has a 9mm hidden under the seat, they have the same chance they could get hurt as any other stop cause you just never know. BUT if I were a police officer and made a stop and found out the guy was carrying legally with a permit I would be just fine if not more comfortable with that. People need to understand that revoking gun rights anywhere either by state or federal law is a horrible idea cause it only makes it easier for CRIMINALS with no sense of law and order to do what they will and forces good clean law abiding citizens to have to make a choice of wether or not to follow the law and hope nothing ever happens or to they themselves carry a weapon illegally and possibly end up getting in a heap of trouble. I would NEVER go to illinois for one simple reason, thanks to state legislature, the a–hole with a ski-mask waiting for me at the atm with a gun, knows i don’t have one. I wouldn’t go looking for a situation like that but as I said before….you never know.
      - CodyJ
        
        that is why you get a finger print safe, opens in less than one second.
      - Armed1InCali
        
        F@3K Chicago I will never go to that state again. They are Constitutional Violating Criminals that run that state! Chicago is LAME!
      - Moorian
        
        I was born, raised and lived in Chicago for 31 years. The last time I checked it was still a city, Highly corrupt and very gun unfriendly but still a city located in the state of Illinois. So glad I moved out of there 15 years ago.
      - RobGoetzSr
        
        This is gradually changing
      - cale
        
        If a gun is not readally accessable is it still illeagle to carry it in your vehicle in Illinose? My leagle inquieres indicate that a simple padlock, with out the key can be secured behind the triger of a revolver making it leagle to transport. Thats after the red lights go on.
      - Kevin
        
        Illinois sucks
      - Kanerman69
        
        That or just drive around that state if you prefer. I for one agree that everyone has a choice to not enter and/or support a state that does not support the right for a person to defend themselves. I live in idaho, I have a idaho resident permit and will be getting a WA and possibly OR and UT permits which will pretty much open up my options for most of the places that I would ever travel. I don’t want to hurt anyone and hope I never get into a situation where I would have to use my weapon. But I do carry and like knowing that IF there ever was a time I would need it, i will have it and I personally wouldn’t travel through a state either that won’t let me carry my weapon on me ready to use if necessary. Then theres no reason to worry about lock boxes and other junk. And any state that would deny privledges (illinois) in my opinion are completely violating the constitution and have no business calling themselves a part of this country. (Not the people that live there just the local government)
    - Dreagin
      
      Then they can just lock you up instead of the gun.Pretty easy to solve that problem.
      - Mickeyminie692
        
        if they want to lock me up then no problem, but make sure to bring a body bag for the IDIOT who tried to assult/rob me because he decided to do things illigaly and on top of that he don’t give a ……….. about the law in the first place. i do have a ccw and I DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROTECT MY SELF AND MY FAMILY AT ANY COST, you make the choice to do something stupid like that to me and guess what? prepare yourself and look at the camera and just wait for the flash because i REALLY hate stupidity so, go ahead and lock me up then, but i first make sure that the one who decided NOT to follow the law gets out of the street PERMANENTLY!!! i completly agree with Garyneil, the person who’s going to rob you is not going to give and/or show you any mercy, my family will always be FIRST and like him I WILL NEVER lock my weapon up for nobody, the state allow me to carry and conceal so if i get pulled over no matter what i am obeying the law.
  - GoldWing
    
    Exsept Massachusetts if you do not make arangments with the state and prosses the proper papers it will be taken and you will be fined for transporting a wepon not registerd in that state.
    - cawpin
      
      That is illegal and false.
  - Tom
    
    Is a car’s truck considered a locked container?
    - Camper_mike
      
      buy a gun case.. $5.99 at wal mart.
  - Joel Sturm
    
    Be careful. New York State does not honor Title 18. It is accepted only as a defense after you are arrested.
    - cawpin
      
      Illegally, yes.
- EricH
  
  What I did to address this issue was to buy gun safes for the car. The are key or combo locking with a cable that goes around a seat frame or trunk frame.
- Scottyjneilson
  
  clip removed from fire arm in separate case than fire arm both secured… according to Nevada officer who does not reciprocate to my resident Utah ccw. Didnt have my gun so no prob but that is what he said was ok if I did have it.
  - Mgrumpyone
    
    Scottyjneilson: CLIP? Really, do you live in a fantasy world? What gun do you have that you have to remove a “Clip” from? All the weapons I come across these days use a magazine.
    A clip is a device that is used to store multiple rounds of
    ammunition together as a unit, ready for insertion into the magazine or
    cylinder of a firearm.
    This speeds up the process of loading and reloading the firearm as
    several rounds can be loaded at once, rather than one round being loaded
    at a time. Several different types of clips exist, most of which are
    made of inexpensive metal stampings that are designed to be disposable,
    though they are often re-used.
    
    The term clip is commonly used to describe a firearm magazine,
    though this usage is technically incorrect. In the correct usage, a
    clip is used to feed a magazine or revolving cylinder, while a magazine
    or a belt is used to load cartridges into the chamber of a firearm
    - zombiehiker
      
      Do you enjoy being a douche bag?
    - Seriously
      
      what a dick bag. geez.
      - Ejoz
        
        Too funny
      - http://www.facebook.com/unholyguy Bobby Dawson
        
        not everyone likes a smart ass, dick bag. lol
      - Smrtyguy
        
        i read magazines and load clips-i’ve spent 30 years in law enforcement, including guarding the president, and am police certified in two states. several years ago, i pulled into a rest area, east of tallahassie, florida, late at night. about 2 hours after i left, the news on the radio said that 2 german tourists at that rest area were shot and killed. i called the officer in charge and he told me that the reason they didn’t target me was that i didn’t fit their profile. i also had my s&w 327 and that was before concealed carry. i’m a concealed carry instructor for oklahoma and am planning a trip to california, soon. will i have my weapon, you bet. last summer, a friend of mine was shot in the head at a ca. rest area by a guy looking for cigarettes. fortunately, he survived. you never know when you are gonna need it. rather be in jail on a gun charge than in the morgue.
      - cawpin
        
        “i read magazines and load clips-i’ve spent 30 years in law enforcement,”
        
        If that last part is true, we’re in a sad state of affairs. Unless you’re using a revolver with moon clips and an M1 Garand with en-bloc clips, your duty firearms use magazines.
      - Concientious acceptor
        
        guys like that are dinks. Most likely a cop……
        and using the terminology for this reason….
        He WANTS to piss off someone . that way , he can actually have a chance at shooting someone.
        That’s my guess and I’m sticking with it.
    - Seabee
      
      Needle dick child that still lives in mommy’s basement.
    - Jackram
      
      omg …. some chit heads read so much they know every ‘term’ and SHAME on the poor fool that uses the ‘incorrect’ term ….. man you are sooooooo much smarter than the avg fool …. how can we ever live in your presence
    - BlackJack
      
      Wow. The gent asked a question, seeking advice of the community, not your opinion on terms and usage of such. Unprofessional.
  - Tedlidie
    
    Yeah not sure about that in NV. both magazines and ammunition are non regulated in California, as a matter of fact as long as your firearm is locked the magazines and ammunition (unloaded) can be in the same bag that you brought them out of the store in and stored in the passenger compartment. Two locked containers would be taking it a little far–even for California-
  - nvdoc
    
    In Nevada we have an open carry law if you do not have a ccw. It can be load on your person as long as it’s in plain view. Except in North Las Vegas.
    - cawpin
      
      “Except in North Las Vegas.”
      
      That is incorrect. They have an ordinance against it but it is an illegal ordinance as Nevada has a state preemption law.
- C. Smith
  
  In a gun case unloaded
- M203
  
  dont know about other states, but from florida to michigan you can take I75 with your pistol in your holster, LOADED , and on your person. if you get pulled over tell the officer right away that you have ccw out of fl. and your weapon is secured with you. and how would he like to procede. also have your ccw out and ready during the entire trip so your not fumbling around to find it. dont give a reason to feel threatened.
- http://www.facebook.com/matthew.korcek Matthew Korcek
  
  @Theglims – While there is a Federal
  Law that protects you while transporting your weapon from The state you
  are legal in and the state you are going that you will be Legal in, it
  is up to each state as to weather they honor that Federal Law or not. I
  Recently needed to go through California on my way to Oregon, so I
  contacted CHP. I own a Taurus Judge, which I had heard was considered
  an Assault Weapon in California, and therefore illegal. I was told by
  CHP, that, regardless of the Federal Laws, if I was stopped for some
  reason and my weapon was found, locked or not, that it was up to the
  individual Officer. I would most likely be charged with a Felony,
  regardless of the fact that There is a Federal Law protecting me to
  transport from My previous state to Oregon. So best bet, contact the
  State Police / Highway Patrol of each state you plan to drive through.
John1466

i have a ccw permit in ga can i carry it in sc?
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7VLRF6XMS4R5W7K4PENKCWYHJM Mike
  
  The state of South Carolina does not honor Georgia permits.
tfields626

How do you legally carry a hangun through Ilinois if you are driving through there on the way to another state. I have a CCW.
- Comradev
  
  IL case law has been interpreted by the courts to allow non-residents to transport unloaded weapons in any secure container. This could be the glove box or a fanny pack. As long as its unloaded you’re “transporting”.
  - Camper_mike
    
    If you carry in a fanny pack, it is legal in Illinois (unloaded) but they will still arrest you just to give you a hard time. Not recommended. The cops can be real jerks if you are trying to test the law.
    - http://twitter.com/frank0194 Frank Shaw
      
      Isn’t this a form of harassment / police brutality?
      - Camper_mike
        
        I was told this by the police chief in Marion, Ilinois. Personally I moved out of state and now I have my second ammendment rights. I refuse to even visit Illinois, the only place in the country where only the bad guys are armed.
- Camper_mike
  
  I used to live in Illinois. I moved so I could have my constitutional rights back. Anyway, their law says the gun must be unloaded (clip removed) and placed in a closed container, eg. gun case, box, etc. You are not required to unload the magazine, just the gun. If you are a resident you must have a FOID (Firearms Owners Identification Card) to own a firearm. If the gun is not loaded and completely encased you are legal. Open carry is illegal in Illinois. Put it in a case, unload it, and put it on the seat.
http://twitter.com/davel3 David Levesque

This map says MA honors UT?
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7VLRF6XMS4R5W7K4PENKCWYHJM Mike
  
  Both Resident and Non-resident Utah permit holders are not honored by the state of Massachusetts.
Worldsfinestgse2

I have a non-resident CCW from Florida. Is it honored in Michigan?
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7VLRF6XMS4R5W7K4PENKCWYHJM Mike
  
  No, Michigan does not honor non resident permits. Do NOT get caught CC a gun in the State of Michigan without a CCW that is valid or you will not see the light of day for a long time.
  - ARMED in CHICAGO
    
    however OPEN CARRY is legal as well. It will raise a few eyebrows especially in Inkster and Detroit but not a lot they can do about it.
  - Billcamera
    
    This is not correct. MI extends recognition to all other states. However, you must be a resident of the state where the permit was issued.
- Quietman333
  
  no
mahi

I have a GA. Firearms license. I salt water fish with friends (residents) in SC. While SC does not honor my GA license, as long as I possess a non-resident fishing license I may carry while fishing with friends, correct?
Bruce

I am the president of an organization and I transport a decent amount of money to the bank. I live in Rhode Island, am I going to have a tough time getting a permit?
Joeking27

i have a florida concealed weapons permit and I travel (drive) often from Florida to Virginia with a stay in South Carolina am i allowed to cary my handgun?
Joeking27

just reading below I guess my question should be can I carry in South Carolina with a Florida ccw?
- Anonymous
  
  Yes, but Florida resident only. SC does not honor any nonresident permits. SC won’t honor my Florida permit since I live in Alabama.
Ellesi2004

i have a resident fire arms license from georgia but i planing to move permanet to florida , i need new license in florida or just chance or what
Sphynx2230

My CCP is issued as a resident of Va. I will be moing to Md. I will need to get a new CCP for Md correct???
Thank you
- Dandc Auto
  
  Good luck with that!!!!! Maryland is the hardest to get a CCW. FFL is easier!!
Wmroos

I have a permit to carry a handgun in Indiana. The courts in Indiana do notdistinguish between concealed and open cary. So do I have a cc or not? The sharref of two counties (Lake and St, Joe) have told me that I should cary concealed so as not to alarm people.
- road
  
  Agree. I carry in Indiana. County Police said that unless I like to be harassed by police and civilians, I should only carry concealed.
  - Kmj1966
    
    I live in Kentucky just across the river in Louisville and go into Indiana often Kentucky calls it a concealed carry deadly weapons license which covers me for all deadly weapons like a 9 inch bowie knife however when I cross into Indiana although they are very polite the Indiana police I have asked have said even though Kentucky issues concealed carry the state is still an open carry state ( Kentucky) however if you come into Indiana you loose your open carry ability and you now must MUST carry concealed interesting
- http://www.facebook.com/todd.cherveny Todd Cherveny Jr
  
  you have a permit to carry mn also does not have a concealment mandate in their law though they would prefer that you carry concealed they left that “loophole” their so if for example your carrying in a shoulder rig and your walking down the street when a gust of wind blows your jacket open and other pedestrians see the firearm that can be considered open carry and in sme states you can get in trouble for it mn and in didnt want there residents to have that concern
Garry Evans

I will be traveling from Virginia to Florida. How do I legally carry a handgun through Georgia?
- KC
  
  Do you have a permit from your *home state* where you are a resident that allows you to carry in Georgia? If so, you needn’t do a thing. If not, you will have to stop outside of the state line of Georgia, unload your firearm and place the firearm in a container. Keep all ammo/magazines stores in a separate location (I would STRONGLY advise you keep the magazines unloaded!) and the container should be one that locks.
  
  My suggestion is: store the firearm and ammo/magazines in such a fashion that gives no one a reason to suspect you can quickly arm yourself.
Laidbackm109r

Is MN conceal and carry permit accepted in WI?
- Camper_mike
  
  no. wisconsin will not accept cc permits from any other state. wisconsin will only issue resident permits. i have cc in oregon and florida, and wisconsin is one of the only states that will not accept my permit. so i dont go there.
  - http://profiles.google.com/tfrcomplianceteam K Craig
    
    I don’t think that is true any more. From the Journal Sentinal:
    “2. If you are not a Wisconsin resident, but you hold a current (not
    expired, suspended or revoked) license from certain states with
    requirements similar to Wisconsin’s, you can legally carry in Wisconsin
    with a permit from one of those states. In other words, you don’t have
    to do anything. As of Oct. 26, the DOJ recognized licenses from Arizona,
    Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho,
    Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota,
    Montana, Nebraska, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Pennsylvania,
    Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Washington, Wyoming, Puerto Rico or U.S. Virgin
    Islands.
    - Ducky-roxy
      
      dont think revoked is correct
      - Guest
        
        Camper_mike is incorrect. Google the Wisconsin DOJ and you will find on their website that the Minnesota’s permit is accepted.
    - guest
      
      only if your a none resident
    - ARMED in CHICAGO
      
      LIST HAS BEEN UPDATED AGAIN 12/8/2011
    - Camper_mike
      
      You are correct. Wisconsin is getting better. I have an Oregon resident permit, and a Florida permit. I am valid in 34 states, but I am wondering why does Wisconsin not accept a Florida permit? I thought you guys were basing your law on the Florida program.
  - John_in_WI
    
    I misread, but then, I speak english. No, WI doesn’t recognize Oregon or Florida, and WI does not issue non-resident licenses.
  - Rex
    
    Wisconsin honors multiple states. Use the Map utility
  - seeker741
    
    Incorrect, if you look at the map provided you will see it is a blue state reciprocal agreement with many states! Also some guy a while ago posted about driving from flroda on I75 all the way north well Georgia, and alabama are non- reciprocal states so unless you fly your car over Georgia(i-75 goes all through Ga) you would be illegallyt transporting. Nopw my question I am virginai and will be CC permitted soon, so I can drive through North and south carolina no problem?????? but have to stop at the border unload pistol lok it in a lock box until I hit florida then can get it out again?
    - seeker741
      
      and I can’t type worth beans from the looks of things, sorry about mis-spellings!
- Mikebowey
  
  i live in wisconsin go to the wis doj web site i believe they just released an updated list and i think mn is on it
Armynick2

im from florida i have a ccw i am alowed to carry in 35 states, im stationed in tx at ft bliss i got pulled over and the cop was pissed but i showed him the map, and he called his sgt to confirm, he said no so i showed him the map and told him to re check so he did and yes i carry in texas
Manfred Redstag

is colorado honors ga gun permit
Jawa999

hi im miltary. i have a co permit. but now live in tx…valid?
- Jawa999
  
  ex-military
Mike Weigel

I’ve recently relocated to Nevada from Michigan where I have a CPL. I cannot find out the to transfer my Michigan issued CPL to a Nevada resident permit. Everyone I’ve asked has given me a different answer. Can you offer any help on how to legally do this without having to start from scratch. Thank you in advance
Anonymous

Will Illinois ever come to their senses and allow concealed carry?
Seaboldc

Please define unloaded in IL?
- Camper_mike
  
  unloaded means no bullets in the gun. clip may have ammo in it but may not be in the gun. gun must be in a closed case. if you are a resident of illinois you must have a FOID card. violate any of the above in illinois and you just committed a felony.
Camper_mike

where are the maps?
Riffsong1

I have a CHL from Texas. Can I carry in D.C.? What if I travel by bus from Texas to D.C.? Do Castle Laws allow me to have it on my person while on the bus or on my carry on?
- Riffsong1
  
  Ok, I saw on another site that D.C. does not honor Texas CHL, nor most or all other states’ CCW permits. My question about the Castle Law and carrying on private transportation such as a chartered bus stands in D.C..
Donny5enator

i have a permit in pa and i am going to ny i thought with this new law i can carry concealed in any state that offers a permit to its residents?
Usarmymp177

I am moving to KY from Michigan. I have a ccw from Michigan, will i be allowed to purchase firearms in KY, and how do i go about transferring my permit from Michigan to KY since it is far from expiring?
Vmthtr

Will MN change so WI can carry there? Why so many staes do not recognize WI CCW??
- Snowman789
  
  I think maybe because it just passed into law 5 weeks ago.
  - Raymond Hornung
    
    It may not since MN requires an actual shooting event and WI does not. The vagueness of the training turns a lot of states off. Consider getting a MN non-resident carry permit.
- Grant Harrington
  
  That’s because you guys don’t have the range training in your class.
Misterlf79

I have a ccw permit in Wisconsin and I’m planning on moving to Georgia will I have to register it for there or will they honor the one I have
- Vmthtr
  
  They will not honor WI CCW
Mangan55

I have my LTC A in Massachusetts, what other states will allow me to just get a LTC based upon this? I’m looking for basically NH, LA,Texas
Tomdlee

Mississipi will not honor my non resident Utah carry permit because I’m a resident of Mississippi.
I was led to believe that it would be honored. I see nothing in the ms code that says they won’t
However, the license bureausays no. I think this issue has been overlooked and it should be addressed.
Speidell

Does Maine accept Pennsylvania’s non resident license. I get conflicting answers from the agencies in Maine.
- Billspider
  
  I received an answer from Maine. They will not honor any states non resident license, except their own non resident license.
Jakester

With a “Rights Denied” state like Illinois…it was said that a handgun must be “unloaded and in a locked container”. My question would be…

Can the container be non-locking if a lock is placed on the gun itself? As in a trigger lock or a lock that passes through the ejector? I ask because my case does not lock and I would rather not buy a new one.
DoctorJ

This map shows why this type of permit should be a a Federal Nation-Wide permit, so as to eliminate all the differences and ocnfusion as to where you are legal and where you are not. A situaiton where you would “think/hope” a nation-wide regulated type of permit would be better than 50 individual state issued documents.
- Camper_mike
  
  Agree. You almost need a college degree to stay out of jail if you travel and carry. Glad this website is here to help.
Drkludt

I have a valid ccw in Mn. I am in Az. right now going to Nv. Am I leagel
Joshhedgpeth

If I am a Georgia resident but attend college in Texas, can I still conceal in Texas? (I know I can’t on campus) I was wondering because it just says “Georgia Firearms Licence” on the card…didn’t know if that card would allow me to conceal in Texas.
Alleitzel

Ok i carry a Pa concealed gun permit good for 5 years now i have sence moved to Florida do i need to now get one from Florida or is mine still good till it runs out?
- Kmj1966
  
  All permits have a requirement that you notify the state of any address changes so my guess your permit is now void particularly if you have changed over your drivers license…..
Gkeglic

i live in pa and i have a permit can i carry in nc or the other blue states that are shown on the map
Boomlarry

It’s a good thing guns are so hard to get in Chicago…because crime is so low and the locals are so non-violent. It’s funny how that works out. Places that understand that restrictions on liberties HAVE to be justified by need and not by the “feelings” of some anti-gun politicians. When my Sheriff greatly liberalized the critieria for a CCW, as a police officer, I was concerned that we’d get some stupid behavior by gun toting hot dogs. Fact was, we did not see one out of a thousand permits mis-used. If there was some quetionable judgement- the Sheriff pulled the permit and required the permitee to justify the behavior. That’s more control than the anti-gunners have…and it doesn’t create criminals- something Illinois has enough of despite their visionary gun policies. Those folks can’t get a Governor that stays out of jail.
Luisetgt

Traveling from michigan to texas how can I carry gun with my CPL?
Cobeone1

are there states that allow you to only open carry but do not let you conceal
- StoutCortez
  
  Wisconsin was like that before it went “shall issue” a few months ago.
Rgschultz

I have a WI permit. Can I carry in Michigan?
- Ukdiver31153
  
  well the map clearly says you can ……. ?????? ….use the map thats what its been posted for
  - Ukdiver31153
    
    just dont via Illinois lol
    - EricH
      
      Illinois, what a messed up state! There is no way I would ever want to live in a state that didn’t allow me to protect myself and my family by any means conceivable. I go through IL at least twice a year and I lock my handguns up in the car safes that I have before I cross into that state.
- David
  
  The map says that you can, you are good for quite a few states. Good advice is to apply for a non resident permit for a state that allows for reciprocity for more states. Except for my good ol’ state of New York. We are finding new applications are only good for to and from the shooting range. Don’ even ask about carrying in NYC, unless you are Sen Charles Schumer.
- Detmcyd1
  
  Depends on each states gun laws. What I used to do is call a police department in the state that I had concerns with just to be sure.
GUS

IT MY WISCOUNCIN PERMIT WILL BE GOOD IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA?
SPECIALJ4419

I HAVE A IOWA PERMIT. CAN I CARRY IN CA, UT, HI?
- Anonymous
  
  Utah only. Not Cal or Hawaii.
Jacquelinedogs

are you able to use your iowa carry permit in Wisconsin
Johntrippjr

Can we deny the right to have another career politician?
Curious

i know this is gun permits, but i havent been able to find the answer to my question anywhere: does anyone know if its illegal to carry a knife of 7.5 inches in new hampshire? concealed or not?
- Kmj1966
  
  I dont know but in Kentucky they addressed that by having the CCDW permit the Concealed carry deadly weapons permit allowing the holder to carry brass knuckles, knives of any length,num chucks etc
Bachman4Pres

What’s with Illinois? But then again, that’s where Obama is from. Maybe that’s why it’s shown as black on the map. Lol.
Jersdoowop

I have a ny state ccw with restrictions for hunting/target/ bussiness. I also have a PA non resadent full carry. Can i carry on my person to PA or do i have to transport it. Thanks for a replay.. Jerry R
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7FWEAVKK4QQLXNJGDWQQJMP524 Anonymous

It is unclear that the states require the training course for nonresident licensing to be taken IN-STATE. I just ran into this with Texas, and their requirement to take the course in Texas. Also as you apply they requesst a credit card for billing, and the fee is NON-REFUNDABLE. I’m currently looking into getting a refund from Texas, and do not know what that will take.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7FWEAVKK4QQLXNJGDWQQJMP524 Anonymous

The other problem is that Electronic fingerprints are not allowed to transmitted across state lines.
This is a FEDERAL prohibition. So trying to apply for an out of state permit is virtuallyt impossible.
Teddy Goggans

if i have a ccw for nc and i have it on my person while driving is this illeagl
- Detmcyd1
  
  no. it is legal to carry concealed while you are driving in nc.
- Funny Ha Ha
  
  Only if you are illiterate.
Kent611

I you have a permit in one state , should be good for all except Illinois………..
Camper_mike

For those of you who keep asking where you can carry, if you can’t read the maps, maybe you shouldn’t carry
Jvpost1975

I am confused. The note says Wisconsin accepts Virginia’s non-resident permits only. The map says my WA resident and my Utah non-resident permots are accepted in Wisconsin. Please explain.
Anonymous

Currently awaiting Michigan CCW, have non-resident UT permit in possesion after move to Michigan (do not have to surrender it according to UT CCW rules, have already changed address on UT permit). Where can I carry legally untill Michigan permit granted.
Pghsoupnazi

What states honor a carry permit from pennsylvania
http://www.facebook.com/iAmJURZ IAm Jurz

whats the point of owning a gun in america anymore? you cant carry it, you have to have it locked up, you cant use it. the goverment (the biggest criminal) must know what you have and where etc etc etc… im sick of it. i stopped buying guns “legally” when a neighbor called the cops on me for a loud party and the cops showed up guns drawn demanding to know where my gun was!!! ITS MY HOUSE!!! who the hell are you to ask where my gun is? its not your business. gun laws do nothing but stop good people from being able to protect themselves. CRIMINALS DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR LAWS THATS WHY THEY ARE CRIMINALS!!! but my loud party gets guns pointed at me like im a criminal. up yours goverment. point your guns at me again and see what happens.
LazarusLong

My state, Vermont, does not require a permit for any citizen to carry- concealed or open. Only felons and mentally disturbed are banned. Why does our ‘no permit needed’ not count as a permit in and of itself with other states? We are simply following the original intent of the US Constitution since our (lack of) gun laws has remained the same since 1793 – it is the right (and also the responsibility) of the citizen and not subject to government approval any more than the right to free speech is?
- Detmcyd1
  
  I think it’s because of the lack of training and background checks. Surely you agree that some people should not be carrying a firearm open or concealed.
Bryantsplace1

Is it legal to carry concealed while driving in the state of Virginia
Brian

I was wondering If I have a target shooting permit in NYS and I have a permit in PA for the same can I take my handgun over the border to shoot at my inlaws ?
Dan

I have a Utah Non-resident, i live in Indiana, but work in Ohio. Am i legal in those states to carry back and forth?
Bob1701a

I just refuse to go to any state that won’t honor my permit. I won’t buy gas, food or anything else there. If I’m going from one state that allows to another with a jerk in the middle, I’ll go around it.
- stevew
  
  So you’ll withhold your $40 from some random guy’s gas station because he happens to live in a State that won’t recognize your gun permit? Why is he a jerk? How do you know he doesn’t have a gun himself?
  - Bigbadboy
    
    You bet! It’s up to him to vote those violators of the 2nd Amendment out of office.
  - PegScraper
    
    I think he means the governor, legislature of the state w/o reciprocity.. and not supporting the economy of that state. I like the idea…one of the reasons I carry is for travelling, especially out of state. Why travel through a state that you can’t enjoy the safety of having your weapon on you, while travelling. He’s stating that he’d rather around that state and get gas at a gas station he can legally protect himself and/or his family and/or the employees at the gas station. You guys jump to alterior conclusions too easy…open your mind and stop watching too much tv and movies
  - Anonymous
    
    When I was a teen, my dad worked nights in a gas station. From 6pm to 10pm, streets were busy, and he kept his Beretta in a drawer under the cash register. After 10pm the town quietened down and it went inside his belt in plain sight. BTW, the night constable who contracted with the businesses on mainstreet, appreciated and knew he could depend on my dad.
    - Caledurago
      
      I have a number of friends in law enforcement and they say that when they see a person has a ccw they relax, because it means you have gone through the same background check that they did and you are one of the good guys.
      - Anonymous
        
        Caledurago, I guess I should have stated that… I’m 67, and that situation was in the early 1960’s, before JFK and Bobby Kennedy were killed. Er, Uh, before the Gun Control Act of 1968. It was no big deal for anybody working nights to carry a weapon. That’s not to take away from what you said, and I do understand. I do wish merchants would take the attitude you are talking about and take down their warning signs, “No guns allowed on this facility”. I’m sorta like the guy on the other post, I don’t patronize those places unless I have to. It’s hard to get around going to the bank, or in my case into the schools, which are “gun-free zones”. Yeah, like they are able to enforce the “drug-free zone”.
- Anonymous
  
  @ Bob1701a: Bob … I gotta say, you sound little like a guy in my concealed carry class who outright admitted that the basic reason he was getting a permit to carry concealed was because he couldn’t *wait* to shoot someone! Everything he found out that he *wasn’t* gonna be allowed to do with a C.C. permit p!ssed him off – or so it seemed. Needless to say, he was excused from the class about half-way thru it – no refund! – and a report was filed with the authorities in his town and county for follow-up. He’ll likely never be issued a C.C. permit, either.
  
  I’ve yet to hear of *any* State putting the issue of whether to allow concealed carry up to the general population on a voter referendum … therefore, you’re likely avoiding any number of States chock-full of people who don’t like it either. Most State legislatures take it upon themselves to decide on the issue of full concealed-carry – and whether to reciprocate with residents of other States.Most highly liberal States are those most likely to make sure the criminals have more rights than you do. Even if they do have some sort of concealed-carry law, they likely want to keep as tight of a control on it as possible – including the matter of reciprocation. Don’t avoid going to those States by wasting your valuable time and spending money you don’t need to on fuel, etc. – you really make yourself sound terribly childish with such comments – just go where you have to, get thru it as quickly (and as legally!) as possible, make things easy, quick and simple – *always* be alert when and if you stop – and avoid situations where you won’t NEED to use a concealed weapon.
  
  If you’re gonna intentionally drive into a no-no State and wait until you’re out of gas, then fill up at a remote gas station at 2 a.m. – kinda-sorta hoping you get confronted …. well, NO State want people like you in it – ever! – and neither would most law-abiding citizens anywhere.
  
  You might think about growing up a little more, sport.
  - M203
    
    hey GlocksRock… except when theyre unloaded and locked up in a case… why would i even want to carry a weapon in my hometown or in different states if i would have to go through that much to get my weapon out to protect myself, friends, family, or strangers. obviously you have never been in a combat situation. and i as well dont go to states that dont honor my right to keep and bare arms. its not the gas station attendant. illinois for example, the people need to take charge of their constitutional rights or become a province rather than a state. you sound like a liberal hippie. get your sh!+ together.. yours truly, an ohio boy
  - Joseph
    
    If I heard a guy such as you describe in a firearms class I’d suspect him as a plant by the police.
    
    This Bob here just appears to be protesting a state’s policies in the only way he can, not gunning for anyone. You’ve created quite an imaginative narrative from such a brief and inocuous statement.
    - Anonymous
      
      Gee, I wrote those silly words several weeks ago. You don’t wake up very often, do you?
      
      What ever his name was, he can drive out f his way to avoid all the places that don’t allow concealed carry if he he wants to. Actually, there aren’t many States that *don’t* have some sort of CC laws are there?
      
      I was just yanking on his chain and trying to see what kinds of weirdos would chime in.
      
      Welcome to the party – even if it’s already over. (No one left to play with but I’ll bet you’re pretty good at playing with yourself …..)
- Anonymous
  
  @ Bob1701a: Bob … I gotta say, you sound little like a guy in my concealed carry class who outright admitted that the basic reason he was getting a permit to carry concealed was because he couldn’t *wait* to shoot someone! Everything he found out that he *wasn’t* gonna be allowed to do with a C.C. permit p!ssed him off – or so it seemed. Needless to say, he was excused from the class about half-way thru it – no refund! – and a report was filed with the authorities in his town and county for follow-up. He’ll likely never be issued a C.C. permit, either.
  
  I’ve yet to hear of *any* State putting the issue of whether to allow concealed carry up to the general population on a voter referendum … therefore, you’re likely avoiding any number of States chock-full of people who don’t like it either. Most State legislatures take it upon themselves to decide on the issue of full concealed-carry – and whether to reciprocate with residents of other States.Most highly liberal States are those most likely to make sure the criminals have more rights than you do. Even if they do have some sort of concealed-carry law, they likely want to keep as tight of a control on it as possible – including the matter of reciprocation. Don’t avoid going to those States by wasting your valuable time and spending money you don’t need to on fuel, etc. – you really make yourself sound terribly childish with such comments – just go where you have to, get thru it as quickly (and as legally!) as possible, make things easy, quick and simple – *always* be alert when and if you stop – and avoid situations where you won’t NEED to use a concealed weapon.
  
  If you’re gonna intentionally drive into a no-no State and wait until you’re out of gas, then fill up at a remote gas station at 2 a.m. – kinda-sorta hoping you get confronted …. well, NO State want people like you in it – ever! – and neither would most law-abiding citizens anywhere.
  
  You might think about growing up a little more, sport.
  - ANZACVET
    
    @GlocksRock:disqus
    
    ….. How is Bob1701a a man that appears to want to shoot someone??? You need to get a life mate!!! All he stated was…I do not want to stop and get gas at a state that does not honor my permit!!! It is instructors like you that make me sick thinking they know it all and pass judgment on others who WANT THE RIGHT to defend themselves!!!
    - Shawn K
      
      Instructors who think they have a brain are scary as hell. It is anyone’s right to support or not support a state based on ones own values and beliefs. If this was the case than no one would ever of moved west from the colonial days. To not have freedoms like this phony instructor is saying goes against the very amendment to have a firearm. It’s people like him who will ultimately want a dictatorship and not value the rights of man.
  - Burly52
    
    Wow don’t you make unfounded assumptions. Nothing bob1701a said lead me to believe he wanted a confrontation. I for one believe it is my God given right to carry concealed or otherwise! If a State won’t allow me to get, or honor a permit to do so, to protect myself and my loved ones, I would rather not support that States tax base. This does not mean I want to use my gun, in fact if I never have to use it in a defensive situation it would be fine with me. I do, in fact, want the option and ability to do so if need be. Check yourself before you make unfounded accusations about others!
  - Anonymous
    
    I’m in agreement with the others on this. There is nothing in Bob1701a’s post that suggests he wants to go ballistic. I also have vowed to not go into states that will not honor my CCW. However, I am forced to drive across lower portion of Illinois to travel to my son in Tennessee, short of an extensive detour.
    
    I did not get my permit because I want to shoot someone. In fact, I pray I will never have to use it. But I do want to be prepared if the need arises. I hope I’ve got what it takes to do what is necessary and only what is necessary.
  - BrAdY
    
    Hey glockrocks. Im new to the world with hand guns. I was wondering if there is a book or website with just about any question I might have. What state can I carry in? I live in Va. Where can’t I cc my handgun? Stuff in that nature.
    - Daily Llama
      
      I recently read that ONLY Illinois – can’t verify if this is actually true – is the “last of the Mohicans” as far as a list of our 50 States that DOESN’T allow some form of concealed-carry.
      
      Sounds too good to be true …
      
      Your Virginia state website should have content on exactly what you CAN and CANNOT do – legally – with a personal handgun / firearm.
      
      Or, visit the local police department or sheriff’s office.
      
      Note: If you have a felony CONVICTION on your record, pretty sure you are BANNED fro9m even touching a firearm in *ALL* 50 States – by Federal law.
    - Jamccrar
      
      Look up the “Travelers Guide to the firearm laws of the Fifty States” I have used it for years with no issues.
  - Bob b
    
    Hmmmm, interesting. I carry a concealed weapon every day. I own a store and will not be there without a gun. Way too many strange folks wander in. I don’t carry with the goal to some day shoot someone. In fact, I sincerely hope it will never be used.. I simply don’t want to be standing there when some @#@#$@ tries to take what we have earned at the point of a gun and me unprepared. Bob1701a is free to make what ever choice he desires, but he will miss a lot of neat places in the country.
    
    Let’s be realistic. Concealed carry is a very big responsibility. The consequences of your actions can be significant. I think it is an individual choice, and, you are right, some folks shouldn’t carry. They are simply too reactionary.
  - Jiltedpatriot
    
    You missed Bob’s point…he merely said he is essentially doing a silent protest of these states and not spending his time or his money in those states. I commend anyone who stands up for their beliefs and does something more than just cries about it.
    - Daily Llama
      
      I agree! I was over-exuberant in my original criticism. I apologize to everyone offended.
      
      The problem is … one person raging against “the system” comes across to many as just another a nut. To change laws and governments, we all need to support a united front! Let’s let the NRA speak for us. If you haven’t joined, please do!!!
      
      I just finished my concealed carry class and was pretty horrified by who started out in the class. We started out with 15 showing up. 9 completed the requirements.
      
      1. One guy didn’t even bring a firearm with him – and had no intention of renting one or even firing one. He said he would simply demanded a permit after taking the course and the tests – “because”. He was excused. FAIL!
      
      2. Another guy was excused just before the noon linch break when he found out the course DID NOT include food. Some do, some don’t. He whined and made a rather loud “stage whisper” that someone who rips people off like that – and it wasn’t a rip-off at all, HE mis-understood the rules of the course – “could be shot for that and who’d complain?”. FAIL! The police came and he left with them. I understand they had a “nice” talk in the parking lot …
      
      3. Two guys showed up right from the get-go with loaded weapons – ONE WAS EVEN ROUND-CHAMBERED, COCKED AND OFF-SAFETY!!! FAIL!!!!
      
      4. One other guy showed up carrying a revolver tucked in the waist-band of his jeans – FULLY CONCEALED and ILLEGAL!!! It *was* unloaded but still …. FAIL!!!!
      
      5. The final drop-out claimed an “emergency” and left after lunch-break and without any further reason for leaving … and didn’t ask about a refund, said the instructor.
      
      Sorry, but these 6 people came across as having more than a few screws loose! I was wrong in automatically categorizing the original poster in the same class as these VERY strange people. The rest of us were eyes open and mouths shut. We were there to learn, NOT criticize and complain.
      
      Maybe I’m just taking this hand-gun ownership and concealed-carry business too seriously …
      - Caledurago
        
        I am 67 and have had a ccw for thirty years and taken a renewel class numerous times, I have never encounter even one person as strange as the any of the six you described in your class. My experience has been to see people that understand that the police can not be there when a criminal kicks in your door, no sane person wants to hurt another person but We also refuse to be hurt, a fundamentle right.
      - StoutCortez
        
        As an instructor, I have never had any students like the screwballs Daily describes. I’ve heard other instructors mention one or two cases over the years, though. But certainly not a class with 6 nuts.
  - Jake hazzard
    
    Glock rocks sounds like a pacifist .
- Mike
  
  Why don’t you go talk about it on Facebook, or something. You sound like a real idiot, and people like you give the gun control folks a valid reason to press their point. Grow up.
- Robert Blank
  
  I do the same thing. I am from Florida. A few months ago I was going to Pennsylvania but Maryland not only doesn’t recognize my permit, but they will confiscate weapons. Even though it was out of my way by several hundred miles, I avoided Maryland. Their unfair law cost them gas and food money.
Jrc

does anybody know the actual waiting time for a wisconsin permit
Jrcunnien

anybody know how long wisconsin is taking to issue its permits
Hector

The map should read; States that honor the Constitution. Some webster for anti gun people; To bear = carry, to have in your possesion. infringe = to take away, to violate. Militia = Group of civilians banded toghether to defend against crime, invasion or opressive government. (The U.S. ARMY National Guard is part of Govt.
Jewa96

Buy the “Travelers guide to the firearm laws of the fifty states” by J. Scott Kappas,Esq. Maybe it is on-line too?! Copyright 2011 Traveler’s Guide, Inc.
Just a suggestion from a fellow law abiding U.S. Citizen who had to unfortunately get rid of my guns due to financial issues except for my 1911-A1 bought a decade ago and had someone holding it while I was away and they didn’t take care of it and I won’t shoot it because I don’t have the correct knowledge to rip it apart in fear of @!;&ing it up. So if anyone can help out a disabled Vet in the S.E. Area of Denver Co. PLEASE HELP?

Hoo-Ya!
Clark Kent

My state says if you have a conceal carry permit it has nothing to do with a gun in you car (glove box) door pocket, back seat. The carry permit is for your BODY only. Not your car.

So some states say you can carry concealed but you can’t have a gun in your car (concealed) ie glove box, door pocket.

Can you be arrested for having a concealed gun in your car if you have a conceal carry permit?
- Anonymous
  
  What state?
Anonymous

Yes, I am very curious as to what states I am legal to carry in. I possess a carry/conceal permit in NYS and I keep my HR-218 certification current. I’m retired NYS Corr. Officer and I’m also possess my NYS Armed Security License. With all this, I am still totally confused. Any help, would be greatly appreciated.
James cole

If I gold a ccw in Arizona how can I carry in California? And why is it so difficult?
Remat457

Are you sure Oregon is shall issue for non-residents (and contigious states only at that)? I am pretty sure that it is at sheriff’s discretion
Stephenjaffe

A couple of years ago, I went on vacation to Virginia and Washington DC. I left my “piece” in Virginia when I went to DC. When we left, we were going to Pennsylvania, but had to pass through Maryland. I unloaded my pistol and put in the back of the van when we went through Maryland. I think in a lot of cases,if you get stopped; the officer probably will use discretion (unless he or she is a total butthead) in sizing up who you are and your attitude. One thing is certain. Never try to argue with the cops about the 2nd amendment and your rights. Give the cops all the cooperation they need to make their job easier. Hopefully they will see that you are an “okay” person and let you go on your way.
- Erajtem
  
  We cannot rely on cops moods and other subjective criteria…
Night Owl

I would like to see a similar map for purchasing handguns and long guns for out-of-state residents.
Co-opted Confederate

Neither: my ass nor my money will go where my gun cannot
Me .ccw carrier

I live in maine and have a ccw. I can not go to NH carrying because they do not reconize my ccw.I took the ccw class but NH will not let me carry.I bet a lot of bad guys carry.I live on the border and I have to unload leave my gun in the open for a bad guy to steal and put inside his or her pants.Maybe the ccw class could be good in all states 23states all ready honored a Me.ccw. Why Cant NH or maybe New england. I will bet the ccw class I took is no different than cops take.My ccw instructor was a navy seal taught FBI,CIA,state police and was very tough but goy his point across about gun safety.I have been around gons all my life 55years.There are a lot of people who should not have anything to do with firearms.But a few people should nottake our right to bear arms.Any instructor can pick them out a mile away.I could go on all day about this but I will stop now.PS I think a ccw course is very important.
- Anonymous
  
  Simply obtain a NH permit. They’re not hard to get.
  - Erajtem
    
    But they are expensive!!
Bart

This map appears to be wrong. Iowa does not issue permits to non residents as far as I understand.
- Anonymous
  
  No but they honor Other states permits.
louis

can i get a florida ccw permit if i live in nyc and my DL is ny? and if i did get florida ccw would it be valid in other states knowing that im a ny resident?
louis

can i get a florida ccw in im a nyc resident and my DL is NY? and if i did get florida ccw would it be valid in other states knowing that im a NY resident?
Krusader

I have a Florida permit will Georgia-Alabama and all other States colored dark blue honor my permit?
crankycanard

It’s certainly not hard to see which states have been controlled by democrats!
constance garcia

wheres one place in the state of missouri that u cannot carry ur concealed weapon within 100 yards?
- Anonymous
  
  Check ur laws, but none that I know of.
Anonymous

I really like the Taurus “Judge” revolver. It seems to be the perfect home-defence weapon. The only problems is, I live in California. Is there a way to legaly purchase one or is it back to the “black market”?
Caledurago

Ok so you can’t carry in a given state, does any state forbid having a flair gun(for signaling) in an emergency? And what fool would want to find out what damage a 12 gague flair gun would do.
Chucktripleh

The California Shall Issue Concealed Carry Proposition will allow any applicant who can legally own a firearm to also have a permit to carry a concealed handgun after they pay a reasonable application fee and complete a two day course provided by an instructor who is certified by the State of California to teach the course. The permit SHALL be issued with no other unreasonable requirements, such as political contributions, celebrity status, or other restrictions. Front Sight Training in Las Vegas is supporting, and in fact assisting, in the gathering of signatures to get a Shall Issue Concealed Carry Proposition on the November, 2012 General Election Ballot in California. In 1986 only 7 states had shall issue. Now 38 states have shall issue and another 4 states have no restrictions.
Burkesid76

The Utah CHP offers 30 some states that it is good for. This may be a stupid question, but here goes anyways. If I obtain this permit does that mean that I am covered in those states or do I still have to get an individual permit for each state?
cale

No sane person wants to kill another humanbe8ng, also no sane person wants to be killed or watch other innocent people be killed ergo I carry(with a permit) and pray that I will never have to use that right. ps I am a Vietnam vet and I know the price you pay when you take anothers life.
VietnamVetMilRet

Looks like transit to Florida is blocked by Alabama and Georgia. It’s a shame that Alabama and Georgia will miss my business due to their uncooperative attitude with a lawful citizen with a constitutional right to carry a weapon, concealed or not. The unfortunate victim in this is Florida. I have family and face-to-face business to conduct in Florida and I cannot get there via a land route with my legal weapon. I am a trusted citizen in 31 states. What the heck is wrong with the other 19 states? They were happy for me to carry a weapon in defense of the nation in a foreign land, but won’t allow me to lawfully carry one in the states that I fought to protect. That’s just down right messed up!!! I have been carrying weapons for 43 years and never illegally discharged any weapon. I am highly trained in the use of a wide variety of firearms. I must remain at the mercy of the criminals that illegally carry firearms in these 19 states? There are 19 states then that don’t need my business or any recommendations to others to patronize those states. I carry high value LEGAL products and need the weapon in the performance of my business. I WILL NOT BE A VICTIM in those 19 states because I was denied my constitutional right to carry a firearm for my personal protection. To the know it alls that think it is just a matter of sucking it up and obeying the law and it is childish behavior to avoid those uncooperative states, understand this – OUR constitutional rights are being refused!! I obey the laws. I will obey the laws of those 19 states by not going there. It is my choice! I’m not going to put money into the coffers of a state government that denies my constitutional rights – PERIOD! That is not childish, it’s my right!
- Anonymous
  
  What state are you from? Alabama honors the permit of any state that honors Alabama’s permit. If your state does not honor Alabama’s permit, then Alabama returns the “favor.”
  
  Whatever your home state, you can get a Florida non-resident permit without much trouble. Both Alabama and Georgia honor that.
Jones6071

I am with Bob on this one. I am a law abiding citizen, I don’t want to be put in a position where I might be breaking the law. If I will be traveling with a gun, I plan my route so that I don’t need to worry about problems if I happen to get pulled over and have to explain why I have a gun in my vehicle. Even worse, I worry about what might happen if I am forced to defend myself in a state that dosen’t recognize my permit.
trustglock

to glocksrock: its very childish and pathetic to “kinda-sorta” hope someone gets confronted! Put the gun down sir, and pick up a bible! i hope your never confronted with any evil, godspeed
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XPQIGDNAYOWRSTSUFKAX3KEU2M Beowulf

permits are just another form of begging the government for permission for a right you already have under the constitution.
- Daily Llama
  
  Close! “Permits” are simply paying a required fee … to exercise the rights we already have. It is in many cases anyway. It’s just another form of taxation …
- Jersdoowop
  
  You are right on. Jerry P ps I like that begging for the right we already have.
  
  I live in Westchester County I have restrictions on my permit . Check this one out for me if you have time. I have a full carry non resadent for PA can i carry on my person from NY to pa. Once i get their im good to go. My ccw is for Hunting target and bussiness, Since i will not be doing any of the three , can i carry or do i have to transport to PA. Thanks Jerry P
- jake hazzard
  
  Well said. And daily llama,,well said as well. I despise financially motivated made-up regulations and permits. As a californian,, we too are highly over regulated from out of bed in the morning to getting in bed at night.
Anonymous

I live in CT. I will get my pistol permit for local and state of Connecticut. My Inlaws have a 100 acre farm that is in Dutchess County NY. The perfect location for target practice. Is it possible to obtain a permit to discharge my firearm? Thanks
Chris
Oscarclydepersinger

To the know it all (Mgrumpyone) that finds using the word clip rather than magazine incorrect. If you ever heard of the M1 Garand, probably one of the most produced guns in the world, certainly during WWII and Korean war, then you must be aware that the 8 round “magazine” was called a “CLIP”. Of course you have to be old enough to realize you don’t really know everything and ain’t half as smart as you think you are.
cHisel684

if wisconsin only accepts virginia out of state permits then why is the map blue for a utah carry out of state permit ???
- Shawn K
  
  Wisconsin accepts: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Wisconsin
  
  I live in Minnesota and the trainers allow us to get a Utah permit which would in turn give us more states like colorado, and texas and more… Getting a utah permit just means more finger printing and picture taking.
  - Shawn K
    
    Permit Honored:
    Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming
    Permit Not Honored:
    California, Connecticut, Florida, Hawaii, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Guam, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, District of Columbia
  - Anonymous
    
    Wisconsin also accepts…ccw from Kansas
Korky

@Theglims – While there is a Federal Law that protects you while transporting your weapon from The state you are legal in and the state you are going that you will be Legal in, it is up to each state as to weather they honor that Federal Law or not. I Recently needed to go through California on my way to Oregon, so I contacted CHP. I own a Taurus Judge, which I had heard was considered an Assault Weapon in California, and therefore illegal. I was told by CHP, that, regardless of the Federal Laws, if I was stopped for some reason and my weapon was found, locked or not, that it was up to the individual Officer. I would most likely be charged with a Felony, regardless of the fact that There is a Federal Law protecting me to transport from My previous state to Oregon. So best bet, contact the State Police / Highway Patrol of each state you plan to drive through.
Mike67857

I do not understand why (for example) indiana honors almost every other states permit but indiana permits are only honored by about 50% of the other states.. I think if a state honors another state than it should be mutually honored.. Am I not seeing things correctly?
- Shawn K
  
  “H.R. 822, the National Right to Carry Reciprocity Act, recognizes this important fact by establishing the interstate recognition of concealed carry permits in much the same way driver’s licenses are recognized,”
  “Although 49 states issue these permits and many have reciprocity agreements with other states, the lack of uniformity makes it hard for law-abiding permit holders to know for sure if they are obeying the law as they travel from state to state.”
  
  Bill H.R. 822 passed the house. Now it needs to pass the senate. But the bill may not even hit the floor for vote. The President may veto it anyways if the bill passes the senate and gets to him forcing it back on the senate.
  
  So in short. It is a problem but politics may be what keeps it this way at the state level making it confusing and hard to carry everywhere.
Bob

This is one country, if you have a permit in your state it should be good in any state…..all the other 49.

Bob from Ohio
- Mike
  
  No, this is a union of several sovereign states.
  - Nick
    
    Mike you’re wrong. Second Amendment applied to all 50 states equally, so everyone can travel throughout the United States and still preserve their rights. Second Amendment doesn’t say anything about crossing state border lines.
    - JoePublic
      
      You are on the right track. According to the US Supreme Court, the Second Amendment applies to all States, as incorporated through the 14th Amendment. However, the US Supreme Court narrowly decided that issue by a 5-4 vote in 2010 in McDonald v. Chicago. In other words, if we lose one “conservative” member on the Court, bye bye gun rights. Plain and simple.
      
      So, while what you are saying should be correct, in reality the Courts have allowed the government (local, state, and federal) to slowly whittle away our fundamental constitutional rights if what the government is attempting to do is a “compelling governmental interest.” As long as the Court can construe what the government is doing is “narrowly tailored” to achieve that interest and it is using the “least restrictive means” possible, then it will be found to be lawful. This has been going on for the past one hundred years and is in large part why this country is so screwed up. Most people have no clue that our rights can be so easily violated. I fear that it may already too late to wake them up.
      - Marchabri
        
        2nd amendment gives us right to protect. You can’t drive through New York with a gun at all. Not in your car, not locked up separated from ammo, nada. Only if you’re going to a gun competition if you are a non resident. So much for the bill of rights
      - Jiltedpatriot
        
        Just another reason to thank your liberal friends for losing their minds…
      - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WKON6OD3MW7X7QYPGIWXBAA3QQ Old School Tech
        
        You should specify “Hand-Gun”. I tote two rifles and two shotguns up there ever Deer seaon 😉 Called ahead to the NYSP to make sure my .50 Cal Beoulf AR-15 was good to go…it met the “Non-Evil” rifle clauses and I got an 8-point with it 😉
      - Informed
        
        This is not true. Read the law and this is absolutely ok to do so anywhere in NY except the 5 borrows of NYC.
        
        It’s amazing how much bad and false information is out there…
      - Caledurago
        
        Sadly we are ruled not by the senate, house or president but by a ologarke of nine judges that are appointed not elected for life. Not a good idea. If the nine decide tomorrow that tha right to bear arms means only that you can wear a short sleave shirt that would be the law. Does that sound strange? Think abour the right to kill a viable infant after it has been removed from the womb and could live, does that make any sense? According to our nine masters it does…
      - jake hazzard
        
        I am a constitutionalist first,and a conservative second. A proud American to the core. But i have to say the abortion issue in USA these days must take a back seat to our current rights infringement by feds(and some states like CA). Abortion is an unfortunate reality,but there is already not enough responsible parents to raise the kids that are with us today. Much less add millions of unwanted ones. Its a terrible rock and a hard place situatiuon. But for now,,keep your eye on those garbage judges and crooked congressmen and senators. MUch less the comedian&chief. And “Be Prepared” who knows when “they” will come for your guns.
      - Caledurago
        
        Yes abortion, Dakhow, Awoschitz are unfornitute realities ZIG HAIL///
      - Jtperez
        
        we are not ruled by nine justices. Aall they can do is interpret the constitution and deem laws and acts unconstitutional.They cannot make a law. They also have absolutely no enforcement power and that is why they rarely decide to see a case. Please educate yourself before you make an ignorant comment.
      - Cale
        
        Intreprite, so however they “intrepret the law is the law” they could leagly make any intreprepation they want and have in fact reversed their own previous “intrepretation”, sounds like legislation from the bench to me…
      - Cale
        
        Another point, for the first 150 years the constitution was “interpreted:’to not alow abortion, then the supreme court “interpreted” TO alow abortion and you think I am the ignorant one. Look in the mirrow for the definition of ignorent. That is legislation from the bench…
      - Dale
        
        Not only is abortion legal….But the taxpayers are required to pay for it thanks to Obamacare
      - GWDriver
        
        The Constitution should NOT be interpreted, but read as it was written, by Founding Fathers who knew what they were doing, had lived the alternative and decided that freedomn was worth the cost required to achieve it.
        
        There is only one way to change the Constitution and that is layed out in specifics.
        
        Remember, the Second Amendment was written, assuring a God given right and not giving that right itself. It was written to protect the people from an over zealous government.
      - StoutCortez
        
        Correct in theory, but the Congress long ago abdicated its responsibility to make laws and looks to the Supreme Court to make the tough decisions. Keeps the Senators and Representatives from having to disappoint constituents: “Yes, I agree with you, Mr. Citizen, but just look what that awful Supreme Court has done to us!!”
      - Scubaslawncare
        
        when you say bye bye gun rights what rights exactly would we lose? No one can have a gun, or no open/concealed carry?
      - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YUSSMHW4P44OXSN46QXT4OMP3A Joe Public
        
        Well, think of it this way. Obama has a number of anti-gun zealots working in his administration who have a stated policy that the 2nd Amendment does not protect an individual’s right to keep and bear arms, but rather that it pertains to the “people” collectively (the government). He has spent his entire political career pushing for more and more radical gun control laws. He has opposed right to carry carry laws and even wants to ban the manufacture, sale, and possession of all handguns and commonly used hunting ammunition.
        
        You have US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg who openly states that she believes that the US Constitution is an outdated document which other nations should disregard when drafting their own constitutions. The other Liberal justices do not believe that individuals have an individual right to keep and bear arms. Read the opinions. Obama himself has also stated repeatedly that he believes that our Constitution is an outdated, deeply flawed document. He never mentions that we have an Amendment process which could be used to “fix” those “flaws.” Wonder why?
        
        An Obama appointee, US Federal Court Judge Myerscough, ruled a few days ago that the 2nd Amendment does not give citizens the right to carry firearms in public.
        
        Operation Fast and Furious. Enough said. I could go on and on. We can either see the writing on the wall or continue to support politicians who happen to have a D or R next to their name.
        
        You draw your own conclusions.
    - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GDO6RZAC4MRYYGB4OG5SD4TOJA Tallen
      
      What does the Second Amendment state about “Concealed”?
      - StoutCortez
        
        Doesn’t deal with concealed carry directly. However, the Supreme Court, in Heller, said that their decision finding the District of Columbia’s gun laws in violation of the Second Amendment would NOT affect laws prohibiting possession of automatic weapons or laws prohibiting concealed carry.
  - Cris
    
    So should you not be able to drive a 6000lbs killing machine (commonly called a car) in my state? I think we both know a car can kill and you can have a license in one state and drive in another. When will people get this concept?
    - Sgtadaniels
      
      i think you have it…lets put it out on every news channel
      - Jersdoowop
        
        You have my support. The big boys do what the want. There is big mony on cars ,insurance gas repair ect. . The good guy should be able to have a full carry. I have a ccw for NY state Westchester county with the good old restriction hunting pistol range and bussiness. I miss Putnam county by 3 telephones if i lived there it would be a auto full. But they can come to westchester Its all balled up. rest my case. Jerry P
    - Erajtem
      
      The right to drive was devolved to the states. It was not mentioned as something the Federal Government was responsible for — such as national defense; nor was it considered a transcendental right such as free speech that can be abridged by no one as it is God-granted.
- Joseph
  
  I would agree that “bearing arms” should be allowed anywhere but UNTIL this does not require a permit or license, it is unlikely to be recognized in every state. Just like the practice of medicine, law, plumbing, or teaching school, which are not considered fundamental rights, a license is required by every state and they find no obligation to honor the license of other states though this be one country. A license is permission from the issuing body for you to perform some act which would otherwise be unlawful, a trespass, or a tort.
  
  Not that I think its right, but that IS the way that carrying weapons it is viewed by the law. Knives may even be more restricted than firearms right now. Until the courts honestly accept the original intent of “keep and bear arms” as an uninfringable RIGHT, the peaceable citizens are at the mercy of the distortions of the law and miscreants who have no regard for good or bad laws.
  - Phillip
    
    I think, that unlike medicine, law, plumbing and teaching, the right to keep and bear is a fundamental right.
  - guest
    
    Do not incite the right to “Bear Arms” as you may feel it means, you need to recite the full line ” TO KEEP and BEAR ARMS,” they key word is “to keep.” If it just said to “bear arms” we would have been stripped of our rights long ago.
- Mtzion
  
  Agreed
- Dsrtneck
  
  What i dont get is all the states that do allow ccw they all go through the same channels for background checks state and federal so if i have a permit from another state why cant i transfer it to a state i move to all the basic requirments ar the same no phelonys no substance abuse have to be 21 and be of general sound mind so what is the problem with me wanting to dial 1911 instead of 911 when my or another life is on the line.
  - AlanBuffaloNY
    
    Most states just run a record check the name and DOB on whatever identification you provide.
    Here in New York, we have to submit a 10-print fingerprint card which is checked by the FBI for criminal background.
    You can get fake ID in this country; You cannot get fake fingerprints!
    I absolutely DISAGREE that every citizen has a right to possess firearms. Convicted felons, people with a history of violent mental Illness, and unsupervised children should NEVER be allowed to possess firearms of any kind, handgun or long gun.
    I submitted my fingerprints one time 35 years ago and have a CCW permit that is good for life, unless I am convicted of a crime. In some states, you can get a CCW just because the Sheriff has the hits for your sister! Until ALL states handle CCWs as seriously as they should be handled, full reciprocity is simply not possible.
    - Gerhead67
      
      Alan if I don’t have any felony convictions on my record which IS checked. There is no reason to deny me a piece of paper to carry a concealed weapon. This is “The United States of America” and if a state issues you a permit then all other states should honor it like a license to drive an automobile, If I had to submit my prints to do this I would be ok with that, but here in N.H. we respect ones right to privacy.
      - Ben Austin
        
        I n our town here in Maine they issue about 65 permits , the man who signs them has lived here all his life. He knows each person on a personal level, he knows who is in trouble with the law and who is not, and yes he has even refused a permit to a family member he didn’t think should have one ! Most of the people that cause trouble here nowadays seems to have drifted in from parts unknown or are druggies. Just the other day the news had a fatal shooting where three people broke into a home and attacked the homeowner and he shot them ! The 2nd ammendment was put into place to protect the people against the goverment AND other persons! Thank you founding fathers!
      - Cale
        
        I have nothing but respect and admiration for our men in blue, That said we all know and they agree all thay can do is hunt down the bad guy after the crime.. Thats why I have a ccw. Kick in my door and go home in a bag.
      - whitehorse67
        
        The permit should NOT be issued based on whether this man thinks they need one or not. If they qualify according to the state law, they should be given one with zero questions asked by “the man”
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=722136046 Daniel Stoner
        
        Your 2A RIGHT, issued only at the discretion of some local yahoo? What if he thought you cheated with his wife, and denied you because he didn’t like you, even with no criminal history? Discretion is 100% antithetical to the idea of a RIGHT. Quit being so naive, Ben, and think. If there’s no shall-issue, there’s a problem.
      - Josepheddelinck
        
        you are definitely right, license to drive is honored by all states therefor a license to carry your weapon should be honored by all the states. that’s it.
      - Floyd Britton
        
        The polititions are the ones keeping the permit issue in the dark ages.
    - bob
      
      Kansas permits are issued by the state attorney general, require fingerprints, completion of a course by a certified instructor, and a full background check, yet New York doesn’t acknowledge a Kansas permit, or any state’s permit for that matter, regardless of whether those states’ requirements are equal to or stricter than New York’s requirments. I’m not sure what good a fake concealed carry permit would do you. I would imagine that if a cop asks to see it he’s going to run it to make sure its legit. (Plus Kansas’ concealed carry permit is made the same way as our drivers license and would be very difficult fake). So why can’t states like New York at least recognize states that do take it seriously?
      - Thelawccwdsm
        
        Iowa CCW permits in Polk county are just like a license to drive. All logged and searchable by all law enforcement agencies nationwide. Just about all states have a tracking system to root out the fakes. If your a felon I hope you get caught if not just get your permit, it’s not that hard in the majority if states. Though I strongly believe not everyone should be able to carry, this is why I think all states should require you to shoot if not for your sake at least for the sake of other lives you could take in the heat of the moment due to lack of knowledge of your weapon.
      - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYKEPM2YQAVBAGNRTN23PSJYJU WOP2
        
        Training yes, absolutely, as much trigger time as possible, shoot, don’t shoot scenarios, knowing about the critical “T”, recognizing what a hand cannon will and won’t do, clearing jams/stovepipes/failure to feed, knowing YOUR gun inside out–I ABSOLUTELY AGREE! Government mandated training–NEVER! Because what the benevolent government gives can be taken away in a penstroke.
      - Cale
        
        I agree.however only a very follish person would drive a car without knowing how and the same is true for a gun. Remember that you are liable for what that gun does.
      - Markmohrwstp
        
        Cale, do you know how to check your cars oil level or tire pressure? How about changing a flat tire or an oil and filter change? Transmission fluid change? Your assumption that I should know how to field strip my weapon is as absurd as giving a person a pencil and telling them before they can write a letter they must pass a compentancy test on proper use and practice of annotated footnotes for a thesis paper on old world grammar.
      - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GDO6RZAC4MRYYGB4OG5SD4TOJA Tallen
        
        Criminals carry without a permit.
      - Floyd Britton
        
        10/4
      - Cale
        
        You are correct, consider that you are responsible for any stray bullets even if you are justified to shoot. If you choose to carry it learn how to shoot it.
      - Doug
        
        NY doesn’t recognize its own citizen’s rights, THAT is why they don’t recognize anyone else’s.
      - mrstawarzsr
        
        you got too many democrats in new york democrats hate guns and hate you if you want to have one i lived there 33 years in 73 while i was on active duty they had the nerve not to honor my active duty i d when i went fishing ,a fucking pfc combat marine that has a legal active duty permit can fish anywhere in the the u s the i d is your fishing permit along with a lot of other things it covers too fags can do all the perverted shit they want,blacks can beat and rob and rape and stab you along with the puerto ricans but you better dare not do any thing to protect yourself or you’ll go to jail forever i lived there for 33 years born there and was never so glad to leave there i wish i did it sooner of all the shithole states and there are quite afew on the east and west coast n y is def in the top 5 or less i thought i could be proud of where i come from but that would be a joke i rather say i come from some commie nation then say i was from new york
        get rid of all them democrats and you might see some change for the better being in new york is like being on the jersey turnpike every exit is a toll both or an ambush, my newphew was a corections officer and he had to go in front of a judge to get a permit to have a side arm, a judge what happened to the second amendment theres too much shit thats have gotton way out of hand and i dont feel sorry for you people cause you let them shit all over you ,dont any of you have the balls to stand up and put an end to this shit its your state not the democrats you put in office you cant even go in the store with out getting raped in taxes ,theres nothing worth that much ,take it back grow some balls in stead of being robots ,nothing personal against you it just burns my ass how they have fucked all new yorkers around its a shit hole over run by forigners get out lie i did ive never been so happy i wont even go back to visit
      - Floyd Britton
        
        Your so right. Domos. and don’t forget orginized crime
      - Rstawarz11
        
        o c is a buisness im sure they been around me as i delivered bld materials to nyc construction sites if anything they were there to help moe
      - Islaguam96915
        
        What racist BS! What a NY hater! should people like the Penn State ass bandit have a permit? I’m not going to be a hater by saying what about white people, I am going to tell you there are ass wipes in every race just as well as good!
        I’m a person of color and I don’t rape, rob, murder or sell drugs etc. If needed I would no doubt give you the shirt off my back if you needed it no matter what your skin color! I have also volunteered my time to the state of N Y in the New York Guard and am proud to have served my state. We need to support all good citizens as we seek to make better communities for all no matter what your race happens to be.
        
        Oh, and by the way no I’m not a democrat!
      - mrstawarzsr
        
        racist bs i kew a little boy 6 years old went to elemantary school in 1963 he was the only cacusian kid in a school of about 300 kids everyday he got beat up after school by a mob everyday and at six years old he didnt know why out of all the children in the school he was the only one getting beat up he had no idea,as he got older he found out it was the color of his skin and nothing he ever did to anybody, he did not know till then there was hate embedded in his schoolmates hate for the color of his skin nowthat he is older he must be careful of what comes out of his mouth otherwise he is considered a racist and the kids that beat him every day can call themselfs the n word or spics or fags but there not racists ,so you see the pendulim swings one way if your the right color you can say what you please ,i was born and raised in the south bronx and i ‘ll say what ever i want to about n y i took the beatings for it and dont need no apology im not a boy from the hood im a boy from the wood and it gets a lot darker there at night!
      - Deigh
        
        You are lumping an entire race of people in with a few ignorant assholes.
        What would you say if someone included you in with a group that does not present a true representation of you? That’s B.S. right?
        I’m sorry you were attacked, but you survived, you have risen and you are strong now. There are ignorant assholes that come in every shape, faith religion, color and creed. You learn from their foolish behavior and grow. Don’t hate, don’t blame an entire religion or race.
        Stay armed, strong and respectful.
      - Retired: Charlie 3/7 Commo guy
        
        This is a bunch of crap from just another coward who slithers behind the safety of a computer
      - seeker741
        
        Sorry he is right about Democrats hating gun owners and running ripshod over the constitution, and it is one of the last Democratic machines in the country. Mayor Erastus Corning was DEMOCRATIC Mayor for 46 years till he died! That is what bloomberg in NYC is trying to do, the illegals and the foreigners that the democrats suck up to love them casue they hand out social welfare for votes and reward Democratic loyalty with handouts! Why hasn’t anyone challenged the NYC law where you can’t even on federal controlled property the airports follow federal laws and transport a properly declared and licensed in your another state, that locked in locked box sealed etc, without getting arrested and losing your gun! a Defense lawyer advises attrorney’s not to fight charges cause if it goes to indictment there is no chance to pay fine lose gun and have no record! Once out of there I would file a class action law suit in federal court and finally let the SCOTUS give NYC and state a kick in the balls!
        
        I understand NY doesn’t follow the federal law in the lawful transportation of firearms in violation of 18 USC sub 926A “Interstate transportation of firearms
        Notwithstanding any other provision or rule or regulation of state or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or recieving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle, Provided, that in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console”.
        
        Chicago’s democratic machine took one in the ass over their gun ban, DC got their balls handed to them, but still are circumventing the Ruling by Supreme court by making hard to get the safety class, cause it is against the law to have a gun store in dc and the list of “approved safety instructors is out dated or lacks proper contact info to go out side dc for class.
        
        He is correct where ever Democrats have gained a control, those are the states that you have to be a criminal to have a gun! Some of the western states are a little different cause they were founded by rough and ready people and knew they needed guns to protect themselves and families.
        
        I would have filed complaint with the State Dept Natural resources because he is correct a resident that had a previous hunting license and is on active duty does not need to have a NYS big game tag or fishing license your active duty ID is sufficient unless the Democrats have infiltrated that part of government also.
        
        I will concede that not all democrats are bad but it seems the ones that want to infringe on many of our rights are the ones with the millions and the ability to bribe and buy the laws they want.
        
        Obammma has already said he is going to circumvent the constitution if he wins again, he said he will use executive directives and orders to rule the country and bypass the legislative branch, the only good part about that is once a Republican hero is elected some time down the road he can immediately rescind every executive order he has issued!
        Lets hope we have enough good Americans left that are moderate Democrats that will stand up to the rise of a dictatorial form of ruling from the White house!
      - rstawarz11
        
        whats your beef chump?20 years ago i moved to a free state that i dont need a judge to say if i can carry or not and i carry not because i want to br a big shot,i carry because here im a free man! my gripe is if i were to go to the place of my birth i would be considered a criminal,you see some states do not respect the constition and this is what its about and if you knew who i really was you would be ashamed of yourself
      - Deigh
        
        I feel sorry you. I am a vet. I believe in the 2nd amendment. I have a CCL.
        Are you a card carrying racist or what? What you said is absolutely not Christian, but it must be in your world.
    - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WKON6OD3MW7X7QYPGIWXBAA3QQ Old School Tech
      
      Cherish that CCW Alan…they don’t hand out many any more. Heck, In NY…you need a Permit to even OWN a handgun. On top of the 10-print card made by the NYSP you need the 3 recommendations from citizens in good standing who will vouch for you. Plus the NYS Fees, the form, the background and plus the NEED to CCW which is reviewed. Hunting…is not a NEED for a CCW in NY. Heck I couldn’t even hunt with my 1858 Remington Black Powder revolver in NYS! They consider that a full fledged firearm.
      
      I left NY a long time ago for jobs…and ended up in MD. Getting a CCW is next to impossible in MD…but at least I can buy, own and shoot without a Permit.
      
      My next move is to VA….a FREE STATE. LOL
      - guest
        
        You said it! God Bless the Commonwealth States!
      - Scotty
        
        I had a CWP in NY, and a permit to own in NJ. Also left those states for work, to WA, a shall issue state. I feel like a refugee from two communist countries! I also am an “old school tech”…..wonder if we’re related??? LOL!
      - Mountainskytop
        
        I fled “Communist” NJ for that and many other reasons! A terrible State in which to live for many, many reasons!
      - Mike
        
        Got that right. Try NC, which is great!! Also, can any non-firearm morons explain that a lot of CCH permit holders are retired FBI, DEA, Vets, State, County and local law enforcement. Do they think that they somehow forgot what they learned about firearms? I cannot fathom thier pretzel logic. Glock 33 Mike
      - Patriot131
        
        Scotty, tell those commie traitors back east that your “permit to own” is found in the Constitution. It’s right after the part of that document which grants you the right to say that.
      - http://profile.yahoo.com/H7VKZTLENOF4LZBRNPIEZHDQAY BrainFreeze
        
        Bucks County Pa, you just walk into the Sheriffs office, and as long as you dont have a felony or other conviction, , they cant deny a permit. Think about it, only the trouble makers should be denied. Most everyone else is sensible. I carry everywhere, and I keep it CONCEALED, not even my mother knows.
      - c0d3r
        
        She does now. . . .
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry-Baker/1313907968 Terry Baker
        
        Befor you go to the expence of moving see the news yesterday in md.
      - Hollywood
        
        Now here in Oregon I just bought two AR-15, and a handgun at the last guns show with only a state background check $10 plus $5 each additional. We don’t have reference checks or gun licenses. That is as free as it gets so don’t knock Oregon! If you are a gun toting freedom loving American Patriot we are loosing ground here in Oregon and we need re enforcement soon!
      - TheKingJAK
        
        The only thing I don’t like about VA is how political the CCW process can be. I’ve yet to apply here in my home Commonwealth, but if you have an issue with a judge, sheriff, police officer or prosecutor, they can attempt to prevent you from obtaining a CCW. I’m not sure how this works in reality, but in theory it can be done.
    - Mike
      
      You people in New York have been brainwashed into thinking guns cause crime. I carry and have used my gun to stop bad guys from committing crimes, and here (in Oregon) the dirtballs think twice because they dont know who is armed.
      - Daryl
        
        Mike, The bad guys in Oregon may not know who is armed but they certainly know who isn’t (anybody with with out-of-state tags). Oregon has the same ridiculous rules as my state of NY when it comes to honoring permits from other states. I have permits from 4 states and can carry just about anywhere (with OR being one of the few exceptions). Not so different afterall huh?
      - Hollywood
        
        No hold on! Their is very little gun crime in Oregon (except Portland which is a sh*t hole), and Oregon permits anyone from any state to open carry except prohibited by federal law and government buildings. Until we get our legislators to honor CHL from other states feel free to open carry.
      - Totaled108
        
        Just so no one gets into trouble, you are unable to open carry in the Portland city limits, or Beaverton and Tigard. I’m getting my CCW very soon and have been researching all the crazy laws regarding firearms in Oregon.
      - whitehorse67
        
        I live in the Southern Tier of New York Mike. I take offense to your statement that “you people in New York have been brainwashed” Must be most people out your way assume that every New Yorker is from The City. Just so you understand….I know what causes crime and it’s not the .45 I carry on a daily basis…which my CCW…(from..of all places, New York) allows me to do!
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry-Baker/1313907968 Terry Baker
        
        I grew up in the Southern Tier. Yes you are right we all don’t live in the City. But N.Y. permits are not isued fairly. And Fl. one of the first shall issue is much more acurate on taking prints than N.Y.
      - whitehorse67
        
        I never said they were issued fairly. I took exception to the comment that ALL New Yorkers have been brainwashed. Fortunately for me, I live in a conservative County that will issue carry permits to those who qualify without hassle.
      - Frogmandiver
        
        Whitehorse67, I never met a New Yorker until I served in the Marine Corps and he lived in rural country and never seen the rotten apple. I do understand that you are severely out numbered by liberal trash and it is a shame. I would recommend moving to a more patriotic state. I mean no offense either.
      - whitehorse67
        
        I would if I could, trust me. I stay here to be near my Daughter. The good part for me is I live in a very conservative County where our officials believe strongly in the 2nd amendment and a CCW is easy to get. My Brother moved to Idaho years ago, i would LOVE to live there.
      - bgrouchyrouch
        
        Stay in New York! We need all of the conservative constitutionalists there that we can get. Perhaps your views will help someone else there understand and convert! It is important to support your family (daughter).
      - Cory
        
        I am from NY and see how that state treats even those asking about weapons. The sherrif nearly jumped out of his chair ” DO YOU HAVE IT HERE?” when I inquired about a permit because I purchased a gun in West Virginia (and kept it down there). I spent 23 years in the Coast Guard (and Retired E9) and have been around. The city (NY) is what spoils NY (aside from all the government mismanagment that has nothing to do with this post). It seems (to me and the way I was brought up ) that hand guns are tabboo. Staying out of that place poses no problem to me… Just like I will never live in California. I suppose I would move back if i was running for some political job to make a change, but no thanks… Besides, It’s way cheaper to live elsewhere (Indianapolis) where owning and purchasing a pistol or acquiring a carry permit is not such a suprise or hassle..
      - Scudrunner
        
        Ahhh … The memories. You reminded me of a call I made when stationed at Ft Knox in 1971. I was going to my home state of West Virginia and called the State Troopers to ask what was the legal way to transport my .357 in my car while I was visiting family. He acted about like your Sheriff saying “WHY ARE YOU BRINGING A GUN HERE?….. I never got an answer to my question. :
      - Pissed off non resident
        
        duhhhh Our sherriff in action, why are you bringing a gun……uhhhhhh so I can get the bad guy before he kills me and then call you guys since it will be about 20-40 minutes before you arrive, Meanwhile if I was unarmed you would be calling the coroner for me after you arrived, thats why
      - Bug man
        
        To your point. I carry a .45 I decided to carry because my occupation brings me into hazardous situations. Im small business owner.For example. Due to a back injury I had to have one of my employees service a home which was in a high crime area. As I waited outside by my vehicle for my employee to finish a small gang war broke out 30 yards from me. I took cover behind my vehicle. This event basically made my decision easy. I have NEVER felt more helpless in my entire life.
        The very next day we went to service a local restaurant . It was early in the morning. We knocked. But no one answered. I pulled on the double doors which opened. I then called the owner to inform him the doors had been unlocked upon our arrival. He replied…” Oh ok I’m glad it’s you because the alarm was triggered I’m on my way . When the police get there tell them I’m on my way . FOURTY MINS LATER 15 minutes after the owner arrived. The police arrived. This is a small town people. The police station is 8 mins from our location driving the speed limit and hitting every red light. If this was a dangerous situation where the restaurant was being robbed the owner and employees had no chance. That day I finished my CCW paper work. Got printed and mailed it in. Today I don’t go ANYWHERE without my Glock 21 .45 caliber which I’ve become extremely proficient with by the way
      - Laurence Almand
        
        Good for you, Bugman! If more people would carry there would be far fewer “knockout” incidents where Black punks attack innocent people. I too carry a Glock 19 almost everywhere. In this day and age you never know who will attack you for no reason at all. Good for Zimmerman!
      - cawpin
        
        Yep, it’s only black people doing it. Idiot.
      - mnmike
        
        cawpin… do the math. most gun crimes are the blacks percentage wise. this is not a racist comment. it is a fact. ps i voted for obama and i am white.. Idiot
      - cawpin
        
        Care to show the numbers on that?
      - Laurence Almand
        
        Go to the FBI website and check the national figures.
      - christie
        
        how about the actual crime on film street camera actual footage not good enough for u but I bet u believed the story about the mexican
      - google fan
        
        Google it and show how smart you are……if at all.
      - cawpin
        
        I’m not the one making the claim. What would I look it up?
      - Yaaqob Abrams
        
        So what if you voted for Obama, that doesn’t mean a damn thing. Blacks have been voting for White presidents since forever. Moron. The comment is very racist and then to try and justify it with “I voted for Obama is even more stupid. You probably have only one black friend too, so that makes you not racist. GTFOH!!!!
      - granny
        
        Listen Abrams, you just showed your muslim attitude. White Presidents are the only ones that have been on the voting machines. If BO wasn’t doing such a uneducated job, there would be no attitude …..so why don’t you GTFOH. You seem to be playing the race card naturally.
      - cawpin
        
        Moderators, can we get this person blocked?
      - Bradley Hill
        
        All you have been doing in here is posting your comments against everyone else’s posts. Why don’t you do something original and post something based on your thoughts…Got any?
      - LC60
        
        People who voted for Obama, voted for our gun rights (or 2nd Amendment Rights) to be infringed upon by our federal and in some cases, even STATE governments (as with the State of NY). What is the saying that those who voted for Obama should be reiterating right now? “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!” Get with it, guys. How many of you actually DID vote for Obama, but own a gun? REALLY? LOL
      - Yaaqob Abrams
        
        Not a Muslim “granny-dont-know”. Thank you for proving my point. Columbia, and Harvard Educated BO is doing what he can despite all the hate and blocks he receives from a nation that is supposed to support him within the government, and outside of government. I travel the world and despite what you and others think of BO, the rest of the world highly respects him and loves him. That’s a fact!!! So deal with it you BIGGOT.
      - Bradley Hill
        
        It means a lot to the 9 million Americans who lost their jobs in the past 5 years.
        It means a lot to the thousands of people who lost their Health Insurance Benefits this past year.
        It means a lot to all the business owners who are having a hard time keeping their doors open to make a living.
        It matters to people who will be paying huge electric bills because of the coal pits being shut down my his EPA.
        What do you mean; So what if you voted for Obama, that doesn’t mean a damn thing????
        Oh, I see, you are collecting a monthly Welfare check and Food Stamps and don’t feel the squeeze?
      - Yaaqob Abrams
        
        Its funny how your rhetoric is off base Little Bradley, All of the tings mentioned are not a result of BO but of the bad leadership that has taken place 8 years before him. Your last statement is very racist, and for your information, there are more whites people on welfare collecting checks and food stamps, than any other race. Get your facts straight, and squeeze a book of knowledge into your mental capacity, but don’t overload it because you don’t have a clue Little Bradly Hill.
      - CHICKASAW
        
        I don’t care who is in charge white or black you see I am an American Chickasaw Indian. I am a Vet of Nam and middle east, and my family was in ww1 and ww2 Korea. I can only say you can change things in the next election so get off your asses and vote. we need to clean house in Washington. GOD, COUNTRY,AND HONOR.
      - Bush Wacker
        
        Don’t confuse them with the facts they are too blinded to understand the truth.
      - LC60
        
        And blacks only vote for black presidents, if they are liberal Communist leaning Democrats. Yet, many Democrats own guns and many would not vote for good people like Allen West or Herman Cain, would they? Go figure. I state my case.
      - Yaaqob Abrams
        
        And Pinks, elected BO, so Please miss me with your philosophical B.S. Dummy. Republicans and hate have BRAINWASHED you into complete stupidity. That’s the most stupid statement, I have ever heard. Read a book and learn about the many real and diverse cultures of this nation and world.
      - Daley’s Crimes
        
        Yes, if you voted for Obama you ARE an idiot.
      - christie
        
        yes you are mnmike glad u realize it
      - JA BOBALOO
        
        YOUR ABSOLUTLY CORRECT, YOU ARE A “WHITE IDIOT”
      - JOSE
        
        YES YOU ARE A WHITE “IDIOT”. AGREED!
      - Bradley Hill
        
        Seems you LOSER made losers out of all of us voting for Obama
      - carl lewis
        
        most crimes that are reported you mean! But honestly there is evil in every race my friend and good as well .Please stop pointing fingers its dismisses fault/responsibility to side
      - Yaaqob Abrams
        
        Your an idiot, White Amerikka is so quick to blame the Blacks and everyone for everything that is a product of themselves. More whites are serial killers, rapist, con artist, and there are more whites on the welfare system than any other race combined. So Check your facts Moron.
      - freedommonger
        
        I agree with your premise, however, you just did what cawpin did. You said, “White Amerikkka is so quick to blame the blacks” when, in fact, it’s a PERCENTAGE of White AMERICA that blames them. Your KKK designation for all whites places you at the same level with cawpin.
      - cawpin
        
        Excuse me, but I never said anything of the sort. I called ONE guy an idiot.
      - freedommonger
        
        Then you stated that “White Amerikkka is so quick to blame the blacks”. How many people make up “White Amerikkka”?
      - cawpin
        
        No, that was Yaaqob Abrams…
        You said he did just what I did, and I never said anything like that, which is why I said so.
      - Laurence Almand
        
        Let’s cut the silly name-called and have an intelligent discussion.
      - Educated Indian
        
        Why is that the Blacks are always fighting for a cause. If black kills black, they say nothing. If white kills black, then they become nasty individuals that claim the race card. I know a lot of educated blacks and they think the other percentage of blacks are uneducated & do not want to be associated w/ them. It was a white America until the blacks were brought here against their will. We owe them nothing as they live better here than they would have in Africa.
      - cawpin
        
        “It was a white America until the blacks were brought here against their will.”
        
        Um, no.
      - Laurence Almand
        
        Do some research and you will find out that large numbers of White people were also brought to North America as slaves. And note that the free people of color – there were many of them, called gens de coleur – owned their own Black slaves.
      - Yaaqob Abrams
        
        This was a nation of Native American Tribes and People. And your not an educated Indian because Native Americans dont use the term Indian, DUMMY. Stop Posing RED-Neck. Your ideology is a bunch of B.S. to make you feel superior to those who are in fact greater than you. Step into this day-in-time, that uneducated statement you made is embarrasing and a disgrase. You should be ashamed of yourself.
      - ihavetopickastupidname
        
        This is all completely untrue.
      - Daley’s Crimes
        
        Check your own “facts.”
        
        Blacks make up 12% of the US population but commit OVER HALF of all the murders. Fortunately most of their victims are other blacks.
        
        Blacks make up 12% of the population but are more 40% of the people on welfare.
        
        Let me guess, your inability to do basic math is part of Whitey’s plan to keep you down?
      - Educated & I read
        
        Your percentages are way way off. About 45% off of the true figure. Your inability to get things right means you had no education and refuse to look up stories before you put them on the internet.
      - Yaaqob Abrams
        
        You are a MORON, and your numbers are way off you Racist Hillbilly Red-Neck. Therefore, you are not worth or intelligent enough for me to debate your lack of intelligence. So Sad BOY!
      - Gus
        
        Blacks are violent. Everyone should carry because of them.
      - cawpin
        
        You are a cunt.
      - Gus
        
        Fuck off swine.
      - Retired
        
        Wow, I misjudged you. There are ways of getting your point across without the foul language.
      - cawpin
        
        Not with everybody, there isn’t.
      - Laurence Almand
        
        This is an informative website for intelligent people, so let’s cut the vulgar language and insults.
      - cawpin
        
        Agreed, but the man was posting racist comments. It seemed the only way to get his attention. Luckily, he has been banned.
      - christie
        
        you are a racist aren’t you all come in many colors is amerikka a new country or an attempt to change the name of the greatest country in the world its people like you that are bringing this country down play nice or board the boat to your amerikka
      - Educated Indian
        
        You are the racist. It was the greatest country in the world till your relatives came here on the Mayflower. You race card AH are whats bringing the country down.
      - christie
        
        my ancestors also here before the mayflower not my husbands guess I’m not sure why you spell America with kk
      - christie
        
        besides I was writing in response to cawpins it was not meant for you sorry about that
      - David
        
        They never went to the schools we built them
      - Larry F. Smith
        
        Who did the Indian take the land from, This started as a CCW blooge now we are throwing mud. I was born here and I am an American, not black not white not lite skinned or dark skin.This land was taken from some one else since the start of time. We all have one carry law and that is the 2nd Amendment ( the right to carry).
        I am an American and proud of it !!!
      - Roselind Berry
        
        Who did the Indian take the land from? From the cows and buffalos, from the deer and the antelope, adn maybe from some cavemen. Does that make them Natives? Maybe. But they were not here from the beginnings of time. I don’t like to play in mud (Mother says I always did hate to get dirty!) but I do love history and facts.
      - YourWelcome
        
        what a joke…the Mayflower NEVER landed on mainland America. It actually landed in Central America. Also, we didn’t introduce slavery to this homeland, the indian tribes were at constant war with each other enslaving and conquering each other coast to coast. If the founding fathers wanted to bring civilized order to this land they had no choice but to prove their superiority to the Indians, its a common way of one civilization replacing another as has been done all over the world for thousands of years.
      - Typical Sheep
        
        Uh, I don’t think Plymouth Rock was in Central America….Columbus landed on the Island of Hispaniola…but Columbus wasn’t on the Mayflower, LOL! Mayflower came much later!
      - cobra555
        
        Exactly
      - cobra555
        
        Ever hear of Plymouth rock?
      - Roselind Berry
        
        The Mayflower never landed in Central America. You must be thinking of Columbus, who’s ships were the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria. Columbus did not want to enslave the native peoples, but he was pressured to do so by the Spanish rulers, and by poverty of his own. He died as a debtor and left nothing to his sons. The best biography I have found is in “The Light and the Glory,” which relies on his own diaries and logs.
      - billyboi57
        
        ROTFLMAO!!!! What a tool!!!
      - throwedoff
        
        Not very educated after all. The Mayflower landed in what is now New England. Columbus was sailing for India and made landfall at Hispaniola in what are now called the West Indies. No where near Central America. Central America, that narrow (in relative terms) strip of land that connects North America to South America. Look at a globe some time.
      - lucifernv
        
        actually Africans sold their own people into slavery a practice that has existed for thousands of years and the whites were simply middle men. then when slavery ended in America some slaves returned to Africa ( Liberia ) and took slaves and built plantations. nothing raciest just historical facts.
      - guest
        
        I like his statement because it is true. Do you just stick your head in the sand and pretend it isn’t?
      - ron
        
        State your citations please!
      - ron
        
        Cite your sources please!
      - BaBars44
        
        I think U could have left out the ” Black” part. Some of the bad guy’s ( punk) R also white & Mexican. Ya’ Know. I will shoot no matter what color they R. Period!
      - christie
        
        that was quite a story the Mexican one I mean people were heating up the real story you know the one with actual visual proof I/e street camera footage where you see black male knocking a woman to the ground where are the pictures??? then the first arrest was a Mexican guy you believe everything you read don’t you the majority of incidents are black males also that story was just my opinion sheep fodder I do not consider my self a racist nor do I believe everything I hear that article hit me as a set up to diffuse the situation and fuel another people need to pay more attention to details especially with the poor quality of mainstream media in this country the truth is not coming out of their mouths REMEMBER BENGAZI
      - Joe Schmo
        
        REMEMBER BENGAZI! All caps with an exclamation mark….. What does that mean Christie? What do you know about what happened in Bengazi? Just what Fox news kept spewing to enrage the public against anything/everything associated with the president (because he’s not a white male over 50) until it just fizzled away?
        
        Do you have any clue as to how many other US embassies have been attacked?
        
        Facts really suck when they don’t paint the picture you’re attempting to palm off on the American people. Facts are Republicans – in spite of talking like
        a character in a John Wayne movie – have failed and failed miserably over the
        past 37 years to protect Americans and America’s interest at home and abroad.
        
        Since 1974 – President Gerald Ford – there have been 44 terrorist attacks against American interests, as a result of which 3,154 Americans have been killed (including four ambassadors), and 18 American embassies or consulates overrun or attacked; so, with those numbers in mind, under which party’s Presidents have American interests – and citizens – suffered less?
        
        Fourteen (14) terrorist attacks,
        263 Americans killed (including two ambassadors), five embassies/consulates
        overrun/attacked under Democratic Presidents.
        
        Thirty (30) terrorist attacks, 2,891 Americans killed (including two ambassadors), 13 embassies/consulates attacked/overrun by terrorists under Republican Presidents
        Details?
        
        -Three terrorist attacks, seven Americans killed (including two ambassadors), one embassy/consulate attacked/overrun by terrorists under Republican President Gerald Ford.
        
        -Two terrorist attacks, One American (ambassador) killed, one embassy/consulate overrun under Democratic President Jimmy Carter
        
        -Eleven terrorist attacks,466 Americans killed, three embassies/consulates overrun/attacked under Republican President Ronald Reagan
        
        -Six terrorist attacks, 237 Americans killed, two embassies/consulates overrun/attacked under Democratic President Bill Clinton
        
        -Sixteen terrorist attacks, 2,418 Americans killed, nine embassies/consulates overrun/attacked under Republican President George W. Bush
        
        -Six terrorist attacks, 25 Americans killed (including one ambassador), 2 embassies/consulates overrun/attacked, under Democratic President Barrack Obama
        This is REAL “fair and balanced” accounting of REAL FACTS- invite you to check for yourself- somewhere other than just Fox Noose – sorry to rub your face in the truth (no, actually I’m not sorry!)
      - Autocat
        
        Where else would you even hear about Benghazi? The point was that this administration left our people twisting in the wind. Hell, I could have damn near booked a flight on expedia and made it there faster. Wise up. After all, “what difference does it make?” I suppose none if it isn’t you backside on the line.
      - tmaca
        
        Get there faster booking on Expedia? OK.obviously an exaggeration to make a point, but equally obviously, you know nothing about how military operations actually work. They did get there quickly under the circumstances. The problem was lousy planning (maybe complete lack of it) that resulted in the right kind of troops, with the right equipment and training, and access to immediate transportation, just didn’t exist close enough to accomplish anything.
      - Al Dunaway
        
        From Sigonella, Italy we could have aircraft anywhere in the Med in 1 hour. We also keep aircraft carriers on duty in the Med, likewise. The carriers carry their own tankers to refuel aircraft if necessary, The attack lasted over 8 hours while Obama and Clinton did nothing except what Iranian born Muslim Valerie Jarrett told them to do. They are guilty of the murder of those we lost in Benghazi.
      - cawpin
        
        Valerie Jarrett is an American and you have no idea what religion, if any, she subscribes to. The only reason she was born in Iran is because her father was a doctor working there. Stop attacking people for no reason.
      - ABRanger47
        
        Are you really stupid enough to think the World Trade Center killings were planned under the Bush Administration? Bush was in office just about nine months when they took place. If you think those attacks only took nine months to plan you are just as stupid as the rest of the leftist idiots. Those attacks were planned under the Clinton Administration ( 8 Years ). By the way these are the same people who brought you the Benghazi fiasco. If we don’t get rid of these leftist democrats in November this country is finished. They have decimated our Constitution to a point that our fore fathers wouldn’t even recognize it. This coward in chief has every other country laughing at us. If George Bush had used executive privilege half as much as Obama has the liberals would have called for his head on a stick. I really hope this country has learned it’s lesson by November 2014 if not we’re finished!
      - cawpin
        
        Keep it on topic.
      - Lefty
        
        I agree whole heartedly! Democrats are only commited to staying in charge. All the intitlements the come up with is to keep the recieptients voting for democrats so that they won’t lose any of those benifits, or they will have to go back to work like the rest of the people that pay for them but don’t qualify for them. AMAZING! So I agree,,,go repuplican to save america. now democrats want to change the constitution!!!
      - tmaca
        
        ecauseAnd Republicatians (especially the real right wingers) are dedicated only to preventing Obama from accomplishing anything, no matter wgat it might be. They publicly stated that the minute he was elected. Like so-called Obama care, a plan originated years back by Newt Gingrich and first implemented in Massachussets by Mitt Romney. Named “Obama Care” because opposing anyhting Obama wants, no matter what it is, is now the way to go. And I’m NOT a democrat. Nowadays I’m a disgusted-o crat.
      - Bush Wacker
        
        Yes democrats are that blinded by there Ideology to believe something that outrages.
      - tmaca
        
        Sorry, I ain’t a Democrat. But what I believe is facts I can verify, not what some talk show host tells me, whether he’s left or right. And while both sides used to be just about even on using their distortions and outright lies to try to convince peopel, in the past 20 or so years the scale has tilted far to the right as the source of lies.
      - tmaca
        
        As is normal, a right wing Obama hater doesn’t worry about facts, as long as he can find some way to blame Obama for whatever. Bad enough you have to lie about facts, at least you could try not to get them bass-ackwards. HERE are the actual, verifiable, facts on who used executive power how many times since 1960, in order of usage: Clinton, 364; Nixon, 346; Johnson, 325; Carter, 320; George W. Bush, 291; Kennedy, 214; Obama, 182; Ford, 169; George H.W. Bush 166. So which Bush are you talking about? I have to assume you’re referring to George W. Bush, who used executive power 109 more times than Obama, who is only 8th on a list of 20 Presidents. And Dubyuh’s dad, based on his record, if he’d won a second term. was on track to use it 332 times, which would have left Obama 9th on the list, ahead of only Ford, who was in office less than 3 years.
      - patteeofurniture
        
        Simple, they don’t feel as threatened by the Dems in office.
      - Dave
        
        How many of those embassy attacks have been blamed on an Internet video seen by thousands of muslims that are lucky to have electricity 1 hour a day and no running water.. must be magic laptops.
      - Robin Hoodwinked
        
        you left out the towers so not so accurate —- the problem comes from this country thinking it should police the world —– WWII was a catalyst to this way of thinking before then the U S pretty much stayed isolated except for WWI which sprung the lock on the isolation door and how stupid was that war — over two idiot grade school minded aristocrats — no one should have fought that war —- but hey what do i know
      - Bush Wacker
        
        The problem is Obama is the first president in 70 years to get an ambassador killed by his negligence in a terrorist attack. This would not have been as bad if Obama Rice and Hillary had not tired to lie there way out of there incompetence blaming it on a video which had nothing to do with the attacks. Add to that the folks in Benghazi begged for help and Obama refused to send any. Anyone who says there was none is lying we have troops in Italy and Marines in the 6th fleet along with the battle group which always has an aircraft carrier and war planes which could have been there in the six hours these attacks occurred. Where was he that night the news said he went to bed that is sure an example of the poor leadership this man has shown over the five years. he was also neglect in not providing sufficient security not only that the Obama administration tried to remove what was there with an unstable government in charge. Then he hung the Libyan prime mister out to dry by saying it was not a terrorist attack after the Prime Minister had publicly administered that. With friends like Mr. Obama the man sure did not need any enemies around.
        
        Further what was every done to Hillary did obama call for her resignation as a leader would have no because he needed Bills support to stay in the white house. Then to add insult to injury he went to fund raiser instead of staying in Washington as he should have until the crisis ended he created through his inaction. Then there was Hillary s “whats the difference” and you democrats what
        this woman as your next presidential candidate you picked a real winner.
        there!!!
        
        Normally it is the host governments responsibility to protect an embassy the problem with Libya they still do not have a fully functioning government Then like locking the door after the horses got stolen Obama sent Marines into Libya to protect the the embassy. Normally they do not open an Embassy in a country which is still going through a civil war. From what I am hearing from folks who are have been there the locals would like to have Gaddafi back. Not because they liked his rule but at least the had order.
        
        If you had bothered to watch the congressional hearings when the Security offficer testified all the these facts were brought out. The differance is you are to blinded by your Ideology to see the truth.
        
        One other thing the worst Terrorist attack in our history was under Bill Clinton in Kenya can you see the Irony here another Democrat and that is where Obama’s father came from.
        
        Oh and one other thing about Regan he would have done something about it and in fact did Mr. Obama has yet to do anything. Obama destabilize the entire middle east with his incompatible over the last five years. Did it not seam strange to you when his guy from the Muslim brotherhood was thrown out how he wined about it. It makes a rational person wonder where this mans loyalties really are.
      - Gaius_Vindex
        
        Just wondering Joe–In how many of the terrorist attacks you cite, was the White House aware of the attack, in real time, lasting for >8 hours, with rapid deployment forces ~90 minutes away (base in Sicily in the case of Benghazi) and did nothing? And BTW, I don’t favor Fox or any MSM as my news source.
      - Dave
        
        Joe Schmoe …so what you’re saying is that terrorists like you democrats better than they like conservatives. I agree totally. Why would terrorists spend time attacking when they’re being aided and abetted?
      - tmaca
        
        The majority of the bad guys are usually whatever race is the majority of the really, really poor people in whatever city.
      - carl lewis
        
        yup if I happend to be in the viccinty Id help you
      - Brandon Vlasak
        
        or asian for that matter too… lot of hmong gangs ..especially in the twin cities and the bay area in california or la.. (more viet gangs though down there)
      - tmaca
        
        Did any of you CA people know that open carry (in a holster, in plain view) is legal in CA? Seems not many do. Gun has to be unloaded, magazines have to be elsewhere, like on the opposide side of the belt, though.
      - Jeff
        
        All that sounds good but for real let the police see you and I bet you’ll be laying flat on your face with cuffs on before you could say “Help me Jesus!”
      - cawpin
        
        Unloaded open carry is no longer legal in CA.
      - James S.
        
        Unfortunately that has gone away unless you are on your own property.
      - AMJSunshine
        
        FYI Laurence WASN’T being racist. He was being factual about a LARGE MAJORITY of perpetrators in a specific crime. Laurence was specifically referring to the cowardly, chicken-hearted & weasel action known as the “knock out game.” A disgusting “game” where people (mostly black males) are punching an unsuspecting person. (Again, factually the majority of the victims were white or non-blacks.)
        Even more disgustingly, the MSM took ages to even report about these senseless crimes. Several even DENIED it took place at all.
        The undisputed facts (caught on surveillance tapes) are that a majority of black men &/ youths were & ARE STILL carrying out this spineless, gutless & bullying act.
        To my best recollection, 1 Asian person & 1 white person also admitted participating in these repulsive & abominable acts.
        Several victims were SEVERELY injured & some DIED as a result of these gutless people sucker punching someone in the face or in the head.
      - AMJSunshine
        
        & some of the victims the black people suckered punched were elderly & women (again, caught on tape).
        The majority, if not all were just walking down the block, in an alley / even walking in the subway station when they were punched for no reason, except the perpetrators were “playing” this stupid & moronic “knock out game.”
      - Yaaqob Abrams
        
        its people like you that don’t need guns because of your mindset. People of all ethinicity’s commit crimes however, White America hides most of the statistics of white crime and recieves favortism to make everyone look like thugs and savages to make whites look superior. BTW who do you think Blacks learned it from. The knockout game has been on the news as being committed by whites more often than blacks. Surveys on crime in this country are biased; why do you think no other country trust Amerikkka.
      - hoopcat
        
        It’s America Yaaqob, not Amerikkka. There is still KKK in the U.S., but 90% of all Americans condemn it. I condemn it, and have stated so at KKK rally’s. I have told KKK members they need to get a life and quit living in the past, and unfortunately there are a lot of black americans who are doing the same. You try to blame all white americans for slavery, while actually a very low percentage of people owned slaves. But we all pay for the sins of our fathers. Mans iniquity against man has always been and always will be. But remember, blacks wasn’t the first and only slaves in America. Check your history and you will find that the Native American was the first slaves in North America, and there were many slaves of different types in South America. Even in mother Africa, villiages would take rival villagers and make slaves of them. At one time or another, we have all been slaves. What we should all be doing is coming together and trying to stop a runaway congress, senate, and an egotistic President that believes he is above the Constitution, and doesn’t answer to anyone but himself. Now should be a time of unity, not division. It seems pretty obvious to me that our Government has and is still controlling our concepts of one race against another. Lets break the pattern and elect real Constitutionalists to office. Then maybe we can get away from the status quo, and start on a road of healing.
      - christie
        
        well put hoopcat
      - Ted
        
        The other part that seems to be conveniently ignored is that it was their own people, the blacks in Africa, who sold them as slaves in the first place. Black slavery started with ill will from the blacks.
      - carl lewis
        
        Finally!!! an adult has assumed the role calling a spade a spade,instead egging on the arrogant ,ignorant bias speech of grade school children.There is power in numbers but only few understand this.I don’t think we should all get along but I think there should be respect.I don’t have to like anyone or know one has to like me ,but Ill respect everyone so respect me.Way to much time wasted on finger pointing instead of creating alliance to battle what every race is and will be effected by in the near future. Just my 2 cents of an opinion.
      - Larry F. Smith
        
        I hope people read your post, My feeling to a tee. No more black Americans or any other type. If you where born here you are an American.
      - cobra555
        
        But the question remains …Why are so many blacks joining Isis and becoming Muslims. Love of America…. Think not
      - Typical Sheep
        
        I don’t like the racist rhetoric of the KKK or AfrikanSpeak!
      - Gus
        
        I have a plan! Why don’t you head over to Liberia since you hate “Amerikkka” so much? Blame whitey. Always blame whitey…
      - Yaaqob Abrams
        
        The world is as a whole is Blaming “Whitey” as you so called put it. African people are not the only race of people who are fed up with this white supremacy ideology.
      - christie
        
        then why do you stay here white America ? other countries don’t trust America are u kidding they mooch off of us and send us idiots like you on a continuous basis our prisons are overflowing with trash that we the working people pay to educate feed and you think this country is unfair you really are uneducated aren’t bring back the firing squads quit prosecuting non violent crimes and this country will get rid of a lot of trash
      - Yaaqob Abrams
        
        Your crazy lady, America owes other countries out the ying-yang and have been the moochers and thieves of the world since the beginning of its existence. I stay here because the cultures that built this nation Africans, Asians, Irish, are the true architects and economic stimulators of this country yet still dont get there due. People like you are are out of touch with reality and see these issues one-sided are the true trash and the world is better off without your type of one-sided thinking/ignorance.
      - Ryan
        
        YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      - cawpin
        
        Actually, he has every right to say that.
      - GrammarMan
        
        *You’re
      - http://ncissdirectorate.com/ Cloud Dancing Fourbears
        
        There is a great deal of delusion in almost all of these comments. First of all, let’s address this race issue. This land was founded and belonged to the Native Americans who most folks ignorantly call “Indians”. The whites came here under false pretenses and lies bringing with them their third world ideology and what they thought should be law based on their own cultural opinions. They called my people savages, yet the whites drew first blood. When all was said and done, they lied, stole and murdered at will calling it a “state of war”.
        In the following years after stealing or swindling the land from our people, things eventually died down and they found other peoples lives to disrupt. Whether by will or force this land turned into a revolving door of every nations peoples. All of you that are so preoccupied calling each other names really need to grow up. The reality is, the common enemy is not black, white, pink or Klingon; it is crime, greed and lust. You may live next to a criminal or be one yourself, but know that America as a society is learning to look at things under a tighter scrutiny.
        Concealed Carry is a privilege, not a right. Reread the constitution established by “We the People”. There is a VAST difference between the Right to bear arms and Privilege to carry concealed. CCW is a position of Trust established individually per state. AFA I know, each state must still submit prints to the FBI for NCIC background IIRC. Even though all of you who are here legally as Americans, Remember this; NONE of you except for Native Americans are True Americans. All of your roots are Immigrants.
      - granny
        
        The percentage of crimes committed in the USA are mostly black. There are whites that commit crimes also, but the blacks did not learn it from the whites. They learned it thru their parents, and the other blacks they hung out with. Don’t you ever look for true percentages before you open YBFM. Google was meant for uneducated people like you.
      - cawpin
        
        “Google was meant for uneducated people like you.”
        
        Yes, only uneducated people ever need to look something up. I suppose you know everything about everything, right?
      - Yaaqob Abrams
        
        Granny-know- nothing has brain and the IQ of a mosquito. And who said I was Black Moron.
      - Ted
        
        B.S. Quit playing the victim. White America does NOT hide the statistics of white crime, and does not receive favoritism. You are trying to convince people that your own distorted viewpoint is some sort of fact, which it is not. You play the game of the victim, claim that you’re always held back, think that someone owes you something, or fail to see that the blacks created many of their own problems. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and stop playing the race victim game, and you’ll see that life has much more to offer.
      - Yaaqob Abrams
        
        Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Irish Native Americans have given in this world what they were dealt. White America wanted these cultures to be the burden bearers of this nation that was meant to be by white people and for white people. White America has stolen every idea, concept, business, and etc through their belief of superiority to other cultures. You are a damn FOOL to think that Blacks have created many of their problems themselves, they were from millions of tribes in Africa and came from Kings and queens.
      - lucifernv
        
        they also sold them self’s into slavery ( twice ) once to the dutch traders and once after American slavery had ended.
      - cobra555
        
        You’re right and im half Comanche, born in Oklahoma and have a Comanche pedigree. so what…. I think blacks are out of control
      - Bush Wacker
        
        statistics do not support your position it is mostly intercity fatherless males who commit most crimes. The democrats welfare system has destroyed families.
      - cobra555
        
        Thats a load dude!
      - granny
        
        The only black punks that attack are the ones that don’t want to work for a living. Just like the Mexicans……they have their hands out with a mouthful of “Gimmees”.
      - Cisco Kid
        
        Excuse me, but don’t mix the Mexicans with the bulk of the “N’s” the most here in Texas are very hard working and family oriented in comaprison, as a matter of fact the majority of a single race that rebuilt New Orleans & Suburbs in the aftermath of “Hurricane Ike” and even made money in the process while many blacks stayed on here in Texas than returning to rebuilt their homes. Saw quite a few who bought “jewelry” with their FEMA/insurance claims reimbursements. Talk about “LAZY”!!!
      - JIM TURNER VIET NAM ERA VET
        
        I CAN SEE THIS NOT THE TYPE PATRIOT AMERICAN GROUP FOR ME I BETTER STICK USCCA AND WISCONSIN CARRY TO MANT RACIST IN THIS GROUP!
      - Zues The Great
        
        You right about that….racist pieces of shit.
      - yvonne jenkins
        
        I know many hard working educated black people that can spell…comaprison? Or did you mean comparison? Judge not lest you be judged.
      - Zues The Great
        
        Bitch u stupid!!!!! Don’t be mad because your broke and live in a trailer park while This Mexican works hard as a certified electrician making stupid money….legally bitch.
      - cawpin
        
        Don’t feed the troll.
      - r.j.
        
        I agreed with you until the Black punks statement. Violence knows no color or ethnic background, its the narrow minded individuals like yourself that is a growing problem in this country. And people who use the First Amendment to say whatever comes those little narrow minds without thinking first.
      - Laurence Almand
        
        Yes, it does sound racist. But the fact remains that the vast majority of street crime is committed by Black punks, so my statement stands.
      - Yaaqob Abrams
        
        And the majority of crime, scandal, and world conflict, comes from white punks with your uneducated mentality and dont-know-how. IDIOT
      - Sanju
        
        Fitst Ammendment….hmm…..you can say what you want….but remember once the words are out…it is like your sword is out of the scabbard…they will hold you to it. You can get fired and sued and have a whole lot of other problems besides that. So….speech is something that should be thoughtfully worded in America…if NOT face the consequences.
      - Roselind Berry
        
        If freedom of speech does not apply to “offensive” speech, it applies to nothing. I may not agree with all speech, but I accept that freedom means there will be things said with which I do not agree. As for Black punks, let them get the same treatment as the white punks, the Hispanic punks, the “Native” punks, the Chinese punks, etc. Don’t look at numbers but at individuals. Justice is done by the individual, not by the numbers. (As for putting native in quotes, I consider myself to be partly American Indian. It isn’t slam against the racial group but against the misnaming of a race of people who came here from Asia over the Aleutian landbridge.)
      - Jeff
        
        If you think that only blacks are criminals you are vulnerable. You are going to get caught blind sided. And remember, it is that off duty black cop or that black guy who is a CCW holder may be that person who save you from harm. So never profile because criminals come in all ages, race, size, and gender. Don’t be fooled. I’m a jail guard and I know.
      - Sanju
        
        You are absolutely right.
      - Zach_Max
        
        This is a great comment. I agree 100%. I am white and have seen many bad white people and many good blacks. Evaluate each person on their merit.
      - yvonne jenkins
        
        Very good point
      - xrayne1 .
        
        Punks are punks, no matter what color they are!
      - Guest
        
        Zimmerman is a murderer. He instigated the entire episode.
      - carl lewis
        
        sad but true
      - ihavetopickastupidname
        
        My favorite reply to this type of question: “Because I can’t carry a cop.”
      - wigman
        
        I live in CT, and while CT is full of lunes, the town I live in is very conservative. I am also retired CG (20 years, E-7). I am at the police dept. occasionally for town business (on board of finance). I carry almost all the time. When I asked the chief of police what protocol to follow when I come to see him if I am strapped, he laughed and just said leave it in the holster unless yo hear shooting! Funny guy. To bad all police chiefs and sheriffs were not like him.
      - Jimmy,vig627
        
        Hey Wigman, were you on the Vigorous in the late 80s
      - granny
        
        We need more chiefs and sheriffs with that kind of an attitude. Would thank him but it seems that my CCW is not good in Conn. Sorry.
      - http://www.Spy-Tronix.com/ Google Spy-Tronix
        
        Wow! – That’s a rare response. He seems like a great guy. Semper Fi!
      - larry1355
        
        New York City or should I say the mayor has made New York look bad…..but not as bad as Chicago by any means. They got rid of King Richard finally to get the guy they have now…..not much better! They blame everyone for the violence there and then turn around a let the criminals back out of jail with the revolving door policies. Don’t have a trial there, they try to plea bargain every crime down and not jail anyone. Murder?….maybe it was only a ACCIDENTAL discharge of a firearm.
        
        $150 fine and probation! No time in jail…..then they kill 4 people next time and they do almost the same thing…..2-4 years but, no felony charge! Sound familiar?
      - Dave
        
        To bad you dont have the common sense to know that you should not be carrying a weapon in a Police Station. Its people like you that cause the problems and need a refresher course. Did Andy just come out with that reply or did he have to ask Barney?
      - cawpin
        
        Why exactly can’t you carry in a police station? There usually isn’t a law against it except the secure parts. The lobby is a public building.
      - Bradley Hill
        
        There isn’t a law in the state of Washington for carrying a legal weapon into a Police Department lobby area, but in some cities have a NO CARRY sign on the door. In the counties, it is illegal to carry a firearm in or around a jail lock up area.
      - Gary
        
        The lobby is not a public area in a Court House don’t push on your bubble to hard it may burst..
      - cawpin
        
        What? I’m not pushing anything. If you actually read what I wrote, you’d notice it was about police stations, not courthouses. I even specifically called out that it was prohibited in the secure parts. If you go through security to get into the lobby of the courthouse, that is a secure part of the building.
      - cawpin
        
        What? I’m not pushing anything. If you actually read what I wrote, you’d notice it was about police stations, not courthouses. I even specifically called out that it was prohibited in the secure parts. If you go through security to get into the lobby of the courthouse, that is a secure part of the building.
      - fredawright3
        
        what have you done so wrong that you are so shi.lesly afraid of your neighbor
      - DaSarge
        
        Who said that the writer was shi*lessly afraid of anything or anyone? I didn’t see that. And neither did you. As a matter of fact, the majority of crime in a neighborhood is caused by the “neighborhood bully”, and they can be a “neighbor”.
      - Gary
        
        The lobby is not a public area in a Court House don’t push on your bubble to hard it may burst..
      - DaSarge
        
        But in some states you cannot do even that. In fact in the majority of the states you cannot a thing like that, so the thought was valid, even if the comment’s vitriol made it not so much.
      - cawpin
        
        I’m sure there are a few states that don’t allow it, but it certainly isn’t most.
      - DaSarge
        
        Actually, I did the research and most of the states do not allow the carriage of a firearm into a Police Station, a Courthouse, a Jail or (in most cases) City Hall.
      - DaSarge
        
        And please also include Federal and State buildings.
      - John Fernau
        
        Actually it depends on what state you live in as to whether or not it is legal. To just accuse someone of being irrisponsible/foolish/stupid without knowing their respective laws is just as bad if not worse than what you accuse them of. That or you got your opinion/answer/responce from Polosi.
      - Keith Kinlan
        
        AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!
      - WOP 2
        
        Well, then, Dave, color me stupid and a trouble maker. Here in PA you can carry in a police station. Its real smart though, to let the officers know you’re carrying when you see the sign “No firearms beyond this point”. My local cops know I carry, and that I’m a good training resource too. I’m welcomed in our town’s police station.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Kevin-Underwood/100000471832600 Kevin Underwood
        
        Not everywhere do you have the lib loons and people who should you should be protected from. Some places are so few of that type of people that they can use common sense. Common sense may be new to you, Look it up.
      - Tucson Ron
        
        Hey Kevin, you’re a dick!!
      - DaSarge
        
        No. But you are.
      - Jim Th
        
        Wow…that took some thought
      - tmaca
        
        Who says you “shouldn’t”? In some states you can, in some you can’t, and I’ve been away from CT too long to know what the law there is.
      - iwuzafuz
        
        Sounds like he is the one with sense, if you comprehend what you read, you would understand he asked as opposed to just responding to something he didn’t understand. Most states prohibit permitted carriers from entering government buildings armed, however the majority of police chiefs agree their department’s are not off limits. If some nut entered my office blasting, I’d be upset with you if you were there unarmed. If you only carry where you’re safe, stay home.
        Sure lock it in the car when going to the bank, courthouses, or the DMV, those folks are not armed, but the police are not in that position, therefore don’t feel their department should be off limits. Just have sense enough to ask, as the Patriot and public servant you condemned did.
      - DaSarge
        
        HEY! He’s on the Board of Finance in a town in Connecticut, and if you didn’t know (and you obviously do NOT) thet do allow this kind of thing, carriage of a firearm inside public buildings in Connecticut for members of the Representative Town Committees and Boards of this or that. Sometimes the laws are town to town, some are county by county. But do NOT castigate this gentleman since he did ask the Chief of Police(or the C-O-P as we called them when I lived there, for 15 years) for his information. At least he tried to find out what was legal. And YOU have no idea what is and isn’t legal there. So go and get a look at the state statutes before you criticize.
      - carl lewis
        
        yes sir sonds like a good man
      - Ron Berry
        
        Thanks for Your service Chief. Semper Paratus.
      - Bush Wacker
        
        I meet your gov a few years ago he is a piece of work for sure.
      - http://www.Spy-Tronix.com/ Google Spy-Tronix
        
        Great map and wonderful information – thank you! – Spy-Tronix
      - Lee G.
        
        My home state is California (Southern), after the Service I went back and it was a mess. I figure the great weather and the geology brings out all of the wack jobs. BTW I moved to a better state.
      - ktjebkes
        
        I live in Iowa and carry. I hired a guy who moved here from CA who also carries and is an NRA Instructor along with being an IT. Which is what I needed him for since I am just losing the ability to walk so he does my onsite service calls. We get along great. I once asked him why he moved from CA to small town Waverly IA. He told me, out there if you carry, you are pretty much immediately branded at terrorist. Out here it’s different, he smiled and said, “Out here it’s a pretty good chance your Grandma is carrying and nobody cares that you carry. He loves it here even with the snow.
      - Granny
        
        This Great-Grandma carries….. Shooting rifle/gun since I was 12. I hit what I aim for. Whether its skeet, targets, or the bad guy that thinks I am an easy target.
      - Nate L.
        
        I too live in Waverly, Iowa and love the small town feeling. Former service member and then civilian contractor for a few years. I even carry in my favorite watering hole but made sure the owner and the bartenders were aware of it and were OK with it. Turns out they were more than OK with it. I served my country and fought for the rights that so many people spit on and second guess anymore, and it makes me sick to even think about. They forget that with out the second, the first can’t stand for long.
      - Cindi
        
        This Nana carries! But did you know in Iowa you can use the weapon to protect YOURSELF BUT NO ONE ELSE? Was told if I used it to protect my grandbabies, from kidnapping for example, I would go to jail. I told them then they better get a cell ready cause NO ONE is taking my babies!
      - grandma-sarge
        
        I live in CA. My county is low population and has a HIGH percentage of carriers. Just like NY, don’t assume all of CA is like the coastal high-population nonsense.
      - Echo52
        
        Hello Master Chief Cory, I am also in the Indy area. I also was in the Guard 1963-1967. I enjoy the constitutional supporting laws of Indiana. Have you gotten your Indiana CG plates yet?
      - http://www.facebook.com/388BULL Bull Parrott
        
        I left NJ in 1972 one reason was being treated like a crook when I inquired about a handgun purchase permit. I was 21 and wanted a 28 Smith and Wesson .357. I had a valad long gun permit which was also good for the .22 air gun I had. Silly I think.
        I resented the treatment and chose to buy in Virginia. They really got bent out of shape when I told the local PD that. “YOU CAN’T DO THAT!” Yes sir I can I am a resident in Virginia too. So I bid good bye for ever to the PEOPLE REPUBLIC OF NEW JERSEY. No regrets or thoughts except total joy in living in Wisconsin. By the way I had a relation in NJ who had a “special officer carry permit” Obviously being a draft dodger did not prevent him from supporting a specific political candidate and getting his pay back.
      - Dr W
        
        Wow E9 that is a master chief ? There is hope that this November we can teach the democrats that gun owners sometimes can pull together and change the state.
      - Ron Berry
        
        Thanks for Your service Master Chief, Semper Paratus.
      - Bruce1369
        
        Move from New York. You are just pissing your vote away. New York is bought and paid for by the libs, your voice will never matter.
      - david alan
        
        newbies being scared is a good thing. It keeps them from even thinking about doing stupid shit.!
      - godswill
        
        i hope all u people on here that are very aggressive and seems to enjoy fighting don’t have a gun and carry it around because there is no way I would consider u a safe and sound minded person . god bless u all
      - Bruce1369
        
        Nobody cares what you think. Go cower in a corner.
      - TheKid
        
        lol
      - DaSarge
        
        Dear Godswill: I am not aggressive in the way that you believe we CCW permitees are. WE aren’t like that at all. It is a simple truth in this beloved nation of ours (ALL OF US) that those states with a constitutional outlook on the 2nd Amendment have a much lower crime rate. Take Alaska, for example; EVERYONE up there carries a gun. They HAVE to, due mostly to the fact that it takes law enforcement (few and far between!) a long time to reach any emergency location, and a bear or a moose attack is a likelihood if you live anywhere west of Canada. Which is anywhere in Alaska. When I was there, I found wildlife at large in all the towns, on all roads, in all the streams and backyards… there’re more of THEM than there are of US!!! And in places on the southern border, there are fewer cops than you might think because they are almost all watching the illegals trudging north, and are all spread so thin they may as well not be there if you need an ambulance or have been mugged or otherwise assaulted. What about the Bronx? I lived there for 20 years, and a more f**ked up place I will NEVER see… unless I move to Chicago. Can you think of a better way to stop the violence, a way better than letting ALL the law-abiding folks there carry lawfully obtained handguns? With BIG A*S magazines, 15 rounds or more to a clip? I can’t, and I was a cop for 28 years there. Care to reply?
      - carl lewis
        
        yes sir I agree with everything you said I love my ccw aswell and appreciate the fact i can protect myself if I have to when I don’t have the option to wait for the Leo’s to come and save my life or others
      - hungryHippo
        
        Well, I just read about 20 comments b4 yours and didn’t really see anyone say anything about ‘enjoying fighting.’ Have you seen the news lately? About the knockout games? Yeah, some of these ‘knockouts’ can cause brain damage and death. Yeah I think two in the chest and one in the head is the proper prescription. Then maybe the headline will be: “Knockout games waning due to deadly retaliation by the victims.”
      - Badkarma060
        
        There is the problem, you equate carrying a gun, and pro 2nd amendment as wanting to fight. Self defense is not wanting to fight, for all the millions who carry, their day usually ends without incident. I live in one of the boroughs of NY, and will be relocating down south as soon as I sell my house. I have been carrying for 33 years, and the only time my gun has been fired outside of a range was in self defense. None of my weapons have ever gone on a crime spree.
      - billyboi57
        
        You have the username “godswill”. First of all, capitalize the name of God. Second, you seem to be a rabid liberal. Third, Jesus is a conservative!!! You are out of bounds.
      - lucifernv
        
        Jesus was FAR from conservative.
      - christie
        
        he already has I live in a free country and carry my own protection
      - Laurence Almand
        
        And don’t forget the influence of organized crime, which originally passed the outrageous Sullivan Act, to protect the criminals and give them a virtual monopoly on guns.
      - granny
        
        Would not matter what STATE he was in, as his voice will always matter & be heard. At least the voting machines won’t be as crooked there. Yeehaw.
      - Stephany
        
        Really. Idaho is full of dumbass rednecks where anyone can get a gun. Those of us not from here are scared of the natives. You should really think about your statement.
      - Dan Smith
        
        Then leave Stephany,You will be more comfortable in the land of fruits and nuts
      - Jeff from ID
        
        So, it would seem that you moved to ID from another state and now want ID to be just like the state that you left. Why do you go back? we don’t want you here! If you move to a new area assimilate and do your best to blend in, not complain about how much better it was in…
      - DaSarge
        
        Jeff, you have a great point. When I moved to Greenwich Ct from NY City, I was amazed to meet all the New Yorkers who had moved up to Greenwich. GW is right on the NY/Conn border and is only about 20 minutes from the city border. I am a dyed-in-the-wool conservative and a Tea Partier, and I applied for a CCW as soon as I got there. I was amazed at all the damned liberals at the Representative Town Meeting (Town Council). And what were they doing? Complaining about the hunting regulations, and about the “redneck gun laws”. And I remember standing up and saying:”Since a lot of you paid over half a million for your homes, and some of you twice that amount, then why did you spend so much on homes in a place that you don’t like? You’ll NEVER change the hunting regs here. You will just have to live with them, and get smarter about posting your land. Live with what you got, not with ‘I want I want I want’ “.
        I was applauded by every “townie” there. The “New Yorkers” mostly just got up and left. A traitor to my class? Nope. A man who found his voice, by God.
      - viking lover
        
        “when in rome,do as the romans do”
      - Leatherstocking
        
        Stephany……been long enough now you might never read this, but I have lived in Idaho for eight years, moved here from my former home state of Colorado. What the heck are you talking about? I have never felt more safe any place I have lived, never felt more included by all the “red necks” and enjoy the freedom we experience here. As has been said, if you don’t like it here leave, especially if you’re from California….your liberal buddies have destroyed Colorado and are quickly Californicating it!
      - Ken Alan Draper
        
        Stephany is probably scared by even seeing someone with a firearm on their hip. she ought to avoid Indiana because there are quite a few people who open carry & I’d hate to see her wet her diapers. I’ve never understood people who get scared at the sight of a holstered weapon, they remind me of people who are scared of other people because of their skin color.
      - hungryHippo
        
        Well, to be fair, I grew up in the liberal Mecca of Provincetown, Mass. home to the biggest fruits and nuts you guys will ever know! Trust me, NO ONE carried a firearm that I am aware of except the cops! So, for folks like us the sight of one is a bit strange at the least. My dad had long since given up hunting let alone owning a gun. Thankfully, we were never robbed or attacked…that is, until my mom was mugged right in front of me in Alexandria, VA. by a black man. He hit her in the face, knocked her to the ground and ran off with her purse. She didn’t drive. Living in relative safety in MA gave her a false sense of safety once we moved to Alexandria. And add to it the liberal illusion of the ‘goodness of people’ and other utopian nonsense led to her putting herself (not to mention ME) in harm’s way. I am now a christian, love Jesus, love freedom. I don’t own a gun yet (mostly cause of $$ issues) but intend to get one ASAP.
      - suebrowcounty
        
        Take a safety course and practice on the firing range on a regular basis before you make your purchase. Know the gun you want to carry in and out. And once you buy one continue to practice with it, know all its features. This will allow you to carry safely!
      - Ted
        
        How do you practice on a regular basis BEFORE you make your purchase??
      - Wayne Barricklow
        
        Rental guns.
      - blogengeezer
        
        Many years back when the California land rush made selling a Cal home and property, a Gold Rush, California expats began taking their millions in pure profit, fleeing the outrageous taxes they had voted for and flooding into Colorado.
        
        They bought every piece of valuable land and the most beautiful properties for pennies in comparison to California, from whence they fled. There were huge billboards along the Western Slope. “Go Home. Do Not Californicate Colorado”.. Noticing the latest politics of Colorado, I think Liberal Leftist Californians did consummate the act, took Miss Colorado to the ground, in spite of the signs. :>)
      - DaSarge
        
        Hello, Stephanie. I live in Idaho. I was born and raised in NY City, and also spent 15 years in Connecticut. I went college and then law school for 3 years. I was hurt in the 9/11 debacle and was an Auxiliary Police Sergeant in the NYPD back then. Idaho may be full of very PROUD rednecks, if by “redneck” you are referring to the hard working men and women who work hard and play hard to live their lives free of the restraints placed on them by elitists such as yourself. My neighbor, a graduate of CalTech runs his own IT business from his farmhouse. Another friend of mine has three doctor of Theology degrees, one from Union Theological Seminary in NY City. He does a lot of on-line teaching on ancient religious sects and their impact on the development of Christianity and Judaism. Is this high-brow enough for you? My other neighbor graduated high school, runs a farm that was passed down to him by his father and their dad/granddad, and that farm is a multi-million dollar business. He runs it without any college degree at all. Pretty amazing, huh? And we all have those amazing red necks. I guess it comes from getting out of the house and actually doing SOMETHING other than just sitting on one’s computer and calling other people we don’t even know names. Do you feel better now?
        
        Sorry, I can’t hear you.
      - Yaaqob Abrams
        
        You are so full of S**t. Native Americans, African Americans, Latinos, Asians, and the Irish have been the epedimy of your statement “Idaho may be full of very PROUD rednecks, if by “redneck” you are
        referring to the hard working men and women who work hard and play hard
        to live their lives free of the restraints placed on them by elitists
        such as yourself.” But look how American racist extremist did the burden bearers and the tru architects of this powerful nation, however they dont get the credit they deserve. Most rednecks and poor white trash are out of touch with reality.
      - Gus
        
        Keep living in the past. You bared no burden you turd. If we only had picked our own cotton, America would be perfect. Having to put up with the likes of yaaqob is our burden for a small percentage of our ancestors just carrying on the human trade that those on the dark continent started. Your kind has built nothing but destroyed everything.
      - Bush Wacker
        
        Most democrat are out of touch with reality.
      - carl lewis
        
        My kind of neighbors may have to visit
      - suebrowcounty
        
        And yet the homicide / shooting rate in NY is exponentially bigger than the carry date of Idaho. They are even shooting kids in baby strollers in the Bronx.
      - Ted
        
        The same dumbass rednecks that would kill a criminal to save your sorry ass…
      - IdahoForever
        
        Sorry bub. New York is gone to the communists. What we need to do is get the rest of the communists in the country to move to NY and to CA and leave the rest of the country to freedom loving constitutionalists.
      - Yaaqob Abrams
        
        America is full of communist, and aliens and they just so happen to be whites. The true citizens of this nation are Native Americans. Africans and other Non-whites were brought here against there will and built this nation of hypocrisy. White veiws and ways destroy this world. The Native Americans didnt invite anyone to their country.
      - Jerry
        
        Quit your crying. Stop being a victim. You haven’t built anything other than a stack of empty soda cans next to your computer in your mom’s basement.
      - Pissed off non resident
        
        Idaho is great!
      - jazondubya
        
        Wooh-hoo Idaho!!! Where CCW’s grow on trees.
      - Charlie Branch
        
        Kootenai County used to process permits one day a week, and this year they had to change the schedule to three days/week. Now you can an “enhanced” Idaho permit, which should be recognized by more states beyond our borders (exc. Canada). My CFP instructor said a year and half ago that most states were doing away with the live fire requirements, as that imputes some liability on the state’s part. So (pre-enhanced permit), the instructors of these classes are also certified by the state of Utah, which issues permits to nonresidents.
        Firearms are tools, just like screwdrivers, hammers, knives, footballs, baseballs and bats.
      - Kevin
        
        Wish I knew what county. I live literally just across the border in PA. Have to watch which roads I drive as you can cross in and out of NY 10 times in 10 miles. Asked about non-resident a several places and they all just laughed. Yet NY residents cross over with a permit and get one issued in PA. I wish Harrisburg would reject NY permits until NY honored ours for issue.
      - WOP 2
        
        Kevin:
        A quick call to Kathleen Kane’s office, the Pennsylvania AG, and likely your wish will be granted. She is sooooo proud of closing the so called Florida Loophole, and has killed non resident licenses held by Pennsylvanians issued by Florida and at least one other State. She’s probably in bed with Bloomberg, she has no respect for the former AG’s work to establish reciprocal agreements, and generally has left a bad taste in the mouth of honest Pennsylvanians who wish to carry, but were unfairly denied by the wicked witch of the East (Lt. Lisa King, Philadelphia PD)
      - samy g
        
        Shows how smart she is.. any resident with a non resident permit should be conciderd safe,what with the fingerprinting and concealed carry class you have to take in order to get one. Not to forget the second background check…..
      - WOP 2
        
        Kane is a Constitutional moron, aided and abetted by our dysfunctional Governor, Tom Corbett.
      - charlydog
        
        get the utah cwp and you r good in p.a
      - cawpin
        
        You must have a permit in your home state to get the Utah non-resident permit now.
      - Dave Stump
        
        Renounce the North and Move to the Freedom Loving South. We would GLADLY offer an exchange program and assistance to send our Liberal Left Wing Lunatics up there. Concentrate them ALL to one or 2 States and then ignore them and outvote them at the polls.
      - JeffreyandBecki South
        
        I know what you mean. The only (2) reasons my wife and I don’t live in Washington State is our daughter and grandson. Aside from the miserable summers here we don’t mind living in Virginia and having the freedom to legally carry concealed but unfortunately the pool is becoming contaminated and beginning to look purple.
      - Laurence Almand
        
        If Demorat McAuffle or whatever his name is gets elected, you won’t have any freedoms at all. Bloomdumb of NY is financing his campaign – no suprise there.
      - happyinID
        
        I’m a former upstater that moved to ID. I love it here. Not many libs here, but are gaining more power by the year. My question is,”why would they come here,just to make it like where they came from”. Anyway… got my permit in 3 weeks, and cost $60. How about yours?
      - Bradley Hill
        
        Great state, Idaho is….I live in WA. state, but would love to move to Idaho just as soon as my wife retires. We make it over to Lewiston a few times a year to see friends and just about everyone I talk to is in their Conservative mind.
        Used to live in Seattle and outlining rural areas and the stench of Liberalism wrecks. Live on Whidbey Island now and the Sheriffs over here like their freedom don’t want anyone messing it up. Oh yeah, we have the Lib’s but they live at the south end of the island.
        It’s amazing to me that Washington state has not gone and done something stupid like restrict guns on the citizens as yet. I would have thought they would have been one of the first. They are very relaxed about the fact that many people are running round with their guns on their hips (without permit) or concealed with permit here.
        Good to hear that you are doing well in the rural area of New York. I would like to get back there again and see the upstate part of NY. Take care.
      - jennfire
        
        In Washington, they call us Blue, but only the larger cities are blue. I too live in a GOP county, and life is beautiful here.
      - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K33VC3RZ2TSDKPNYFBEPDPJWFE WhistlingElk
        
        US citizens are US citizen….rural or city, no matter where they are from or what their civil or polical idealology.. they have a right to bear arms…. and kick the teeth in of any stupid Marine who calls him Liberal Trash
      - mpman
        
        Actually you don’t have the RIGHT to kick anyone’s teeth in and neither does anyone else. You have a right to defend yourself. Kicking in someone’s teeth because they called you Liberal Trash is not self defense. So get your facts straight…LIBERAL TRASH. Bet you won’t come kick in my teeth. Lol.
      - J. Mac
        
        I think you missed the point completely… He’s on your side; just wants all Americans to have the rights afforded them, regardless of their political views.
      - Jim in Iowa
        
        He didn’t miss the point. The Liberal Trash in New York are who are taking away the 2nd amendment rights of the citizens. Liberals have the rights as well, but Liberal Trash are different.
      - Bruce1369
        
        You need remedial reading classes.
      - tyler
        
        Internet balls aren’t balls….
      - ninehour
        
        Ooo Rahh, mpman…..”get some”
      - ninehour
        
        Yo Whistler’s Elk, this is one Marine who doesn’t put up with liberal trailer trash, in any form!!! 2nd Ammendment says I can carry – lets duel…..
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Rillis-Barnes/816138399 Bob Rillis Barnes
        
        This Marine feels the same way even though I am 77 years old. Semper Fi.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Rillis-Barnes/816138399 Bob Rillis Barnes
        
        Bet you didn’t think “stupid Marine” after Guadalcanal.
      - Thomas L Walker
        
        Thanks for proving the Marines point!
      - Jim in Iowa
        
        Come kick this Marine’s teeth in. you have a seriously screwed idea of what your rights are and what is self defense. Do yourself and keep your ideas to yourself and let people think you’re stupid instead of posting them and removing all doubt!
      - Bruce1369
        
        Semper Fi.
      - USMC Gunny
        
        OOORAH! brother.
      - Bruce1369
        
        More than likely the liberal trash would get its ass handed to them if they had the guts to try “kicking a Marines teeth in”
        Care to try?
      - USMC Gunny
        
        come kick this Marines teeth in Jr. You’ll find out what happens to lib-tard trash when they open their battleship mouth with a row boat ass.
      - Aubert Modeste
        
        Bullshit Gunny.
      - CsfhVwrbi
        
        The problem with liberals is they want the government to coddle them and are willing to take the rights of others in order to feel safe. If they could only be made to realize that they can never be 100% safe and that taking the rights of others is a grievous sin, then maybe we would all get along better.
      - DoggerLV
        
        I moved from NY to Las Vegas. So in essence I voted with my feet.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Merle-Burbaugh-Jr/100001218685659 Merle Burbaugh Jr
        
        I was raised in NY near Albany. was hunting alone since I was ten. Never shot anyone accidentally, nor did any of my eight brothers and sisters. We left when the state went wacko.
      - Joanne
        
        Frogmandiver, I moved from ny because it’s so liberial and the conservatives won’t fight these dam giveaway liberial. Ny is overtaxed, and in your face every minute. I live in VA now for 16yrs and they could give me a million dollars and I wouldn’t move back. I have carried for over 10yrs and I feel safe. Only The Bad guys have guns up in ny. The good people don’t because they can’t get permits!
      - Dr W
        
        If it were that easy I would be packing yesterday !
      - Charles Boot
        
        Frogmandiver & Whitehorse67, Sounds like you’ve been brainwashed into thinking liberals are your enemy. The most consistently liberal state in the USA, Vermont, where a legit (self-described) democratic socialist is senator (Bernie Sanders), is the only state that has maintained unrestricted gun carry laws even before concealed carry became popular
        
        – James Brady (RIP) (Brady Law) wasn’t a liberal. He took a bullet protecting President Reagan.
        
        – Just look at the map on this page and you can clearly see that most “blue states” permit concealed carry. And NY is not that liberal if you are judging libs to be Democrats and conservatives to be Republicans,
        
        – The truth is that most states are purple and they swing from red to blue, even Idaho and New York City. Hell, Staten Island is a staunch stronghold of the GOP. Don’t get too comfy with geography, because it will change.
      - joemc
        
        I am very liberal and I laugh at how it’s thrown out around here. I love guns, and I carry everyday and have many weapons. I will always fight for my right to carry. In fact, most liberals that I know love their guns.
      - whitehorse67
        
        I would assume then that your not as liberal as you think you are. I have NEVER met a liberal that believed in the constitution. They are good at talking the talk, but can never walk the walk.
      - Mattyoh
        
        And I have never met a supposed conservative like you who has ever taken a class in constitutional law and who actually knows what the hell they are talking about. Go back to your trailer.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Darien-Astral/100003114525263 Darien Astral
        
        Dear Angry Matty: Methinks thou dost protest too much.
      - Ttack1947
        
        Ditto Darien-Me thinks the same and by the way, I have a minor in Political Science from a Morehead State University. While we do kid around about trailers her in Eastern Ky., we are not so down right nasty about it. This type of comment by Mattyoh reflects badly on ones upbringing and especially on ones mother.
      - Liz
        
        Ouch, but sometimes a mother will do all she knows to do yet Adults make their own decisions. I am the mother of 5, I know. We all can say unwise things and make an unwise decision in a flash when faced with a difficult situation. I have done so myself. I once blamed myself for every bad choice my darlings made but no more. I worked diligently to teach them Bible principles now they are on their own. People who carry guns need to be balanced so to make a good decision during a bad situation. Can one do this and be as hot tempered as some of our ccw writers? I sense insecurity and that they might need a hug. Lets go up a level and write intelligently.
      - http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall
        
        and I suppose if you were in a foxhole you wouldn’t allow the soldiers to swear. I teach Sunday School and I see nothing wrong with asserting our first amendment right. And yes, I would want one of these patriots defending me. Maybe you’re too young to remember but many of our veteran heroes were spit and and vilified when they returned home from war, but they would still save our biscuits, because that’s who they are… Americans.
      - Liz
        
        You made me laugh. Everyone does need to calm down.
      - whitehorse67
        
        What does your ignorant statement have to do with your original post? Did I say anything about the Constitution? You wanna debate Constitutional Law? Bring it on Sparky, I’ll come out of my Trailer and school your internet tough guy ass on what the Constitution really stands for. It’s a fact that Liberals like you preach about 2nd amendment rights but behind closed doors, do all they can to spit all over the Constitution. Go save the ozone layer….you can’t hang with me.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Watson/100003615047821 Jim Watson
        
        You tell em Whitehorse67! If you mess with one of us, you mess with the whole damned trailer park!!!!
      - Liz
        
        Ignorance is lack of knowledge. Where is your patience. And you guys carry guns?????????????
      - TripodXL
        
        WTF are you and why are you even here??? You’re just another dumb @$$ed liberal that thinks they are superior to the “fly-over” people because you live in a “cultural paradise”. You “effers” wouldn’t know the constitution if it bit you in the @$$. Do you even own a gun, much less carry one? Living in a mobile home is an economic condition…not an IQ impediment. Did your mother have any children that had an IQ over 100?
      - Palerider13
        
        Yea I bet your a real Rocket Scientist when it comes to the Constitution! So, if you divorce your wife is she still your mother? I’am a disabled U.S.M.C. Vietnam Veteran and a Democrat that carry’s a Gun everyday! So save your self worshiping stupidity for your drunk patriot friends. I know many many so called Patriots that have NEVER fought for this Country and they ALL have some excuse as to why they never had the balls to put their lives in the line for what they supposedly love so much! I promise you that if you ever visit “The Wall” you’ll see names of Democrats AND Republicans. Punks like you and Whitehorse make me sick. But I guess that I gave my legs for your right to both be losers!!
      - Arkie — from “fly-over”
        
        Thanks for serving! When I grew up a conservative looked out for his neighbor and understood that greed and exploitation are bad. Todays right wing has moved past conservative to regressive. Personally, I have no interest in going back to the segregated south or the expectation that women should be quiet, barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. I get the sense that the “no govt” plank of the party isn’t concerned about the consequences of rolling back the last century of laws that enabled a broadly successful free market by granting access to more of us. As corporations aggregate and consolidate power, the small business (and small town) is dying. Corporate greed is a bigger culprit than progressive vs. conservative, but they have us distracted by bickering with each other over birth control while they steal our country.
      - Liz
        
        Yes, we must be focused on real issues at hand and in agreement when possible. Bickering and bad language only reflects ignorance. By the way I loved being barefoot and pregnant all five times; but now I enjoy a career. We are different people at different stages or wear different hats depending on the season of life. Corporate, Government greed need our focus. They are robbing us by taking and misusing our money while making themselves filthy rich.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Watson/100003615047821 Jim Watson
        
        Thank you for your service Sir. I tried to go but the Corps wouldn’t take somebody who had half their foot amputated by a lawn mower at age 3. I do have 2 Brother’s who served…
      - Liz
        
        God bless you. I did not go either but I prayed for those who did. We do what we can. Your heart was with our guys..I am sorry that you lost your foot at 3, what a horrible thing to experience at that tender age.
      - J W
        
        I really have doubts as to whether you’re any of the things you’re claiming in your obtuse statement. You’re no Vietnam Vet, nor were you disabled from military action. You’re likely “social security disabled” from some dumba$$ things you did all your life, like drug use and stunt driving. One TRUE statement you made, is that you ARE a liberal. But, you tell this same $hit on other web sites, figuring making a claim to being a combat veteran gains you street cred. If you eve had served in the military, you were likely an e’ffin cook or driver. You’re a liberal through and through, so go back to your cheeto eatin, beer drinkin’ and jackin’ off to porn.
        
        Jack Wheeler
        Vietnam 67-68
        1/9 Marines
      - ltcurry
        
        They are actually paid to do this. To them, some of this is actually there job paid for by Congress. Ad the DNC
      - Liz
        
        Perhaps ,but do you have documentation of who is who? Be careful, judging can be a dangerous boomerang!.
      - Liz
        
        Spoken like a true ignorant person. Do you have a crystal ball? You make very ugly assumptions and your language is ugly and angry. I would not want to be near you and your gun. I do thank you for your service to our country and I will pray for you. I hope you find peach with others that are different and learn to celebrate those differences. People are beautiful individuals. How would you have eaten while in the Marines if not for the cook. Shame on you!
      - tommie1107
        
        palerider13, right on dude, I did 2 tours in Vietnam, Thanks for your service, I truly mean that
      - http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall
        
        When you and slick Jimmy come over for dinner I will serve prime rib roast, lobster and chocolate chip cookie cheesecake on my best china. thanks for your service, and semper fi!!!
      - Robert
        
        palerider13 some of my freinds names are on that wall I have been there and you are right noth democrats and republicans are their I am sorry you gave up your legs for dumb butts like that SIMPER_FI and God bless
      - Mandrcecil
        
        Palerider13 I love it, best dang comment on here. Thank you for your service!!!!!!!
      - ArmyVet Iraq/Afghan.
        
        The difference there Marine that the names on the wall came from a different time period. Now there are lines drawn between liberal and conservative. Liberals have let it known that they are against gun rights and the rights to carry. It should not matter what state people are in and what constitutes law of how the CCW is issued, People say that “well people with down syndrom can have a permit, or a person with mental issues can have a CCW, it doesn’t matter to the criminal who does not have a CCW of where he carries now Does it
      - Patriot131
        
        You hit the nail on the head. Today’s “liberal” is really a progressive Marxist. The Democrats of 40-50 years ago no longer exist. If you think you’re still a member of the same party which was in power in the 1960s (you know, the one which started and escalated the Vietnam War) you’re living a lie; THEIRS.
      - Joe D.
        
        Vet you got it right, I am a republican, and I think we should all just be Americans first and foremost, we should all put all of this B.S. bickering away and move forward instead of just spinning our wheels in the same ol’ mud hole. Thank you for your service.
      - Liz
        
        Yes, you are a wise man.
      - Liz
        
        Truly something to consider. Thanks.
      - Liz
        
        The fact that criminals can and will get guns is the issue. They always will. Thus we must be prepared to protect ourselves and others. Someone said once,” That in a self defense situation you must still love the one that you must stop with a gun even to their death” If I ever have to shoot someone, I will love that person but I will shoot to stop them.
      - Liz
        
        Thank you sir for protecting us all.
      - http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall
        
        I can love humanity but hate the sin. But I was not feeling love for the psycho who showed up at my house with a gun, and neither would you. All I could think about was protecting jasmine and malachi from death, and myself too. thank goodness I know how to defend myself.
      - Deigh
        
        You Tell Em!
        I’m a vet also and I thank you for your ultimate sacrifice.
      - Deigh
        
        My mistake.
      - Liz
        
        we all make them.
      - Liz
        
        how nice a humble person
      - Pete
        
        Semper Fi!!! brother, served in Nam USMC 68-69 two tours, I carry and will till the day I’am gone
      - Liz
        
        Thank you dear.
      - http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall
        
        you can come to dinner too–then you guys can give me tips when we go outside to our own personal range.
      - Liz
        
        Then behave like a Vet. Be respectful. Your ugly words and anger accomplish absolutely nothing. I am reading your comments to learn from you experienced gun carriers but instead I am needing to be mother to 50% of you. You fought for this country. I will forever be in your debt but not everyone is the same, not everyone has the heart to fight, don’t judge. Good point about the Wall. Educate us, as a vet who has suffered a great loss please do not lower yourself to name calling and bad statements. You are better than that! God bless you for your sacrifice and supply your every need.
      - mac u.s.n
        
        thank you for your service !
      - http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall
        
        thank you for your service and incredible sacrifice. I do salute you.
      - Liz
        
        Pray for those in Isaac and live in a mobile home. Some choose to live in a mobile home because they do not need the false status symbol of wealth. Their wealth is in their friends, family and ethics. And perhaps the million they may have in the bank! Appearance is just that, it is often not the reality.
      - Fallen Angels13
        
        Hay why don’t back off the trailer comments and talk in a civilized manor. It’s people like you who make me sick, thinking that just be cuse he talks like that he is some dumbass is messed up. So if your so smart speak in a civilized way. And there are plenty of people that know the law.
      - Robert Walbock
        
        Not true Matt. I’ve been able-collar Democrat all my life and I have a carry permit in Oregon and working on one in Arizona. This last month I amassed every quote from the Founding Fathers concerning the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 14th Amendments. I won’t vote for Obama, nor Romney, but I did attend a Paul rally. It used to be that my brand of politics, wasn’t much different from those across the aisle, but now that both parties have been hijacked by extremists, what can I say? If you can’t accept this reply…..
      - bigmac72956
        
        If you don’t vote for Romney then its an automatic vote for Obama. Pick someone and stand by your vote……
      - FIREMAN243
        
        you are correct. Paul will divide up the conservative vote. Romney is not the best choice, but I think he will do the right thing when elected. Otherwise I will vote against him too.
      - FIREMAN243
        
        you are correct. Paul will divide up the conservative vote. Romney is not the best choice, but I think he will do the right thing when elected. Otherwise I will vote against him too.
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1158202589 Master Flash
        
        Voting against someone is the act of a loser.
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1158202589 Master Flash
        
        If you vote for either Romney or Obama, you are wasting your vote, The lesser of 2 evils is evil. If you vote for the best candidate, you’ve voted correctly. (I know it’s hard to understand. Just think of the first rule in voting as it was taught to you in grade school.) With the communication power of the Internet we can all force change by voting for who we want. You’ll never get change by voting for who you don’t want. Think about it.
      - bob
        
        You are correct Sir!
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=722136046 Daniel Stoner
        
        You just said 2 contradictory things, one true and one dead wrong: “Pick someone and stand by your vote” – truer words never spoken. I pick Gary Johnson and stand by it. “If you don’t vote for Romney then it’s an automatic vote for Obama.” Dead wrong sir. If I don’t vote for Romney (and I won’t be), it is most certainly NOT a vote for Obama, the ONLY candidate on the ballot worse than Romney. It is a vote, pure and simple, for the person who is the BEST choice for POTUS – and that’s Gary Johnson. Romney is nothing but a spoiler to Mr. Johnson, if you want to pull out the spoiler argument….
      - caledurago
        
        TEA Party!! Dem Rep We dont give a flying beep, what are you going to do for our country. ps balance is the key without some greed why would I work a 60 hour work week and keep trying to get biger, and bigger means more employes?
      - Jon
        
        Arizona did away with concealed weapons permits last year, you can now carry here with out one, not that I agree, I think you should at least have the training, but I thought i would let you know…but you can still get one and if you want to travel you should get one
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Watson/100003615047821 Jim Watson
        
        I didn’t have to take a class in constitutional law. I carry and carry a copy of the United States Consitiution in the console of my truck. I do know a whole lot of folks with an ego wall covered with diplomas from various institutions of higher learning who don’t have sense enough to pour piss out of a boot with directions on the bottom… Why is it that most liberals assume that most conservatives are illiterate and live in a trailer? Is the trailerpark a bad childhood memory for them?
      - Patriot131
        
        As a conservative who is pro-2A, married to a woman from UPSTATE New York and HAS taken an actual constitutional law course in law school, I can say without equivocation that the majority of New Yorkers have a distorted view of the Constitution in general. Specifically, they do have a skewed view of 2A. The right to keep AND BEAR arms shall not be infringed. “Bear” means to carry with/on a person. Case closed. Next!
      - Philaundre Thomas
        
        Bear REALLY? We don’t need to have AR-15’s being beared by everyday people. People using the law as a way to sway politics is childish, anyone with any brains understands we need moderation in our gun laws. What happens if someone buys a 50 .cal weapon and then mounts it on a hummer that has been made bullet proof? We couldn’t stop that nightmare, because of your politics and people like you. Let’s stop playing politcal games and start thinking people….
      - Slick Jimmy
        
        Ahhhh, to be liberal, and live with the assumption that anyone who owns, say, more than a pop gun, is obviously a pistol-packing, gun-slingin’, rootin’-tootin’, bullet-blazin’ psycho-sociopath all filled with violence, and is just a ticking time-bomb just waiting to have his or her fuse lit so they can go all postal on a rampage of slaughter and mayhem. Yes, let the government control everything, and we’ll all be safe and secure. Our nanny and big brother will tuck us in every night as we have blithely float through life in this brave new world. Trust your political leaders to the point of prostration and worship, as long as we can still suckle at the government teat. There will never come a time when we will ever have to defend ourselves. A handgun, an assault rifle, a machine gun, a surface-to-air missile, a tank, yes, of course those should only be in the hands of professionals. Not ordinary citizens. Goodness, most of the plebs aren’t – what’s the word? – Responsible? Intelligent? Powerful? – Hmm? What is the word that the general, average, law abiding citizen isn’t enough of to not be allowed to own every type of weapons (barring those pesky, and oh-so-elusive WWMD’s) the military or law enforcement is allowed to use? I just can’t think of it. Weird. Freedom, it may be cliche, but it isn’t free, and being free is risky sometimes. This 230-something-year-old experiment is a risk. Driving down the road every day is a risk. A far more dangerous risk per capita that losing your life to gun violence. Should we ban cars and trucks, and everybody just rides mass transit? Maybe? Hunh? (I can just see some socialist troglodyte drafting the insipid bill now, so he can slip it surreptitiously in the Congressional hopper at the end of a midnight session.) Living life is scary and sometimes dangerous, but mostly it’s banal, but sometimes, on rare brilliant occasions it’s glorious. Worth protecting from all threats, both from within and without. At all times and in all places. Every citizen who had the strength and inclination to safeguard the heath, welfare, prosperity and happiness they and their loved ones have earned through sweat, blood, and tears, well, shouldn’t be allowed to do so? Just my not-so-humble opinion. Flames welcome from all you flamers. Heh. That’s a double entendre. in case you missed it. 8P
      - Liz
        
        Got It! You really impressed me until your last statement. You spoke so intelligently, as someone I would trust with a gun. Keep it balanced and intelligent; it is the wise way to be. One poor statement can put a cloud over the whole written word.
      - Joe
        
        Thank god, for you and the rest of the self-appointed thought police. You polishing your Romney pin?
      - mac u.s.n.
        
        this is what is scary ! we base our decisions on political rhetoric and party lines ! “NEVER” stopping to realize the chip has already been planted ! my god liz , if you think voting for romney is a vote for a “paradise” , your certainly gulping the bug juice ! “WE THE PEOPLE” , no matter our differences , have never been this close to losing our normal , “everyday life” , as “right now” !!! the stage is set ! forget about romney and obama!
        you better decide what future you desire for any citizen you happen to care about ! kids , grand kids, the guy at starbucks e.t.c. !!! we are being divided systematically ! just like there are three sides to “every” story ! yours , mine and then the “truth” ! you have your progressive , government needs to control everything side ! you have your social ,gov. needs to support me side ! then you have the “ME” side ! the leave me and my family alone side , to live as we see fit ! # three will be the deciding factor whether side # 1 & # 2 prevail , and form this new “grand illusion” of a united nations “wonderland” ! the truth is scary ! it has no agenda ! even if people actually get a chance to see what the health care expense will be once it is free , by then , little will matter ! it is as simple as pie ! no politician, no president , law enforcement , united nations, or even you, will “ever” withdraw my ability to move freely within lawful boundaries , protect myself , my family ,neighbors , or hell , even you , force me to purchase “ANYTHING”, no matter what “executive” order is written stating otherwise ! and here lays the problem ! that is when you will decide , with everything to lose , do i do “nothing”??? “OR” with nothing else to lose , do i do “EVERYTHING??? i understand , i may be alone with my family standing this ground ! i am willing to find out regardless ! the fight may be short ! but to put up no fight, will insure the “longest” nightmare forthcoming !!! simple ! look around, and be careful what your agenda hopes for ! im not shining any political button ! im voting for my country ! a country that will “NEVER” be powered by 100% granola bars and airplane props ! vote for your family ,not the view,or hollywood.. not your party or your hurt feelings ! they all “LIE” ! and we know who’s lying to you the most ! in four years, you can choose another liar, at least you will have the chance ! if not, and this administration is allowed to continue with its full plans , refer to the above , and watch for me and my family ! we will be the ones holding our flag, inviting “anyone” , foreign or “DOMESTIC” to try and remove “any” PART OF IT !!!! ……simple ! and certain !
      - Slick Jimmy
        
        Oh, good heavens to Betsy!!! Did I offend all those gay-lesbian-bisexual-transsexual-trisexual (Those are people who have sex on tricycles… or is it people who will try anything sexual? I forget… Anywho…) sensibilities out there? Liz, sorry to be so flip and offend you, but you don’t know me or my friends or family. I have several close friends and family who are homosexual. I’m very familiar with all the politically correct rhetoric that is supposed to be polite. See, I am not PC. Never will be. However, I reserve the right to defend good people whatever their race, religion, creed, or orientation, but I also reserve the right to make wickedly witty fun of them whenever and wherever I please. Damn, that pesky First Amendment! So, until the totalitarians take over, and put a chip in my head forcing me not to say ribald, outrageous, and “inappropriate” comments I will continue to type and say whatever pops into my head. Hopefully my previous comment in the above post did not cause any gay hearts to go poof up in flames, but if so? So be it. And thus, Lady Liz, though I’m sure you’re a lovely, thoughtful, compassionate person, try and lighten up a little. It was just a wee joke. Laugh at the world and its foibles. It’s better for your health. If you don’t, you’ll just end up crying. Cheers!
      - BullMuse
        
        Lighten up, Francis. If you’re going to paint all liberals with the same brush, then you don’t get to claim immunity from criticism by someone simply because she doesn’t know you personally. It works both ways. Incidentally, saying or typing whatever pops into your head makes you neither wickedly witty nor clever; it simply illustrates a lack of tact and maturity.
      - Slick Jimmy
        
        Hey, thanks for enlightening me on my boorish and juvenile demeanor. You’re a peach, bub! I would have never realized and internalized the scope of my loutish vulgarity without your truly eminent sagacity.
        
        Oh, wait! Now that I mull it over a bit, and think on it, yes, I long ago had the epiphany that I am an eternal 13-year-old boy, now trapped the fabulous middle-age clay of a Rubenesque Adonis! (Mercy Me! Bask in my glory!) Yep, I admit what I am freely and gleefully! At least I’m not a curmudgeonly tosspot who likes to insidiously insinuate words and ideas in other people’s mouths.
        
        When did I ever claim immunity from criticism? The only right I claim (in this particular instance) is the right to free speech. I don’t really care how anybody replies to my bombastic ranting, just as long as they accept the fact that I will possibly give back to them in kind, and with equal or accelerated verve.
        
        Look, I’ll shellack liberals (or conservatives, for that matter, or any other stripe of political animal) as pinko pussy willows bending whichever ways the wind blows. You can bet the animal farm in this brave new world, bucko, that I’ll paint from the palate of my myriad lexicographic vocabulary sprawling, epic. satirical masterpieces about anyone and anything that inspires the sardonic urge in me to do so, and anyone is free to do the same to me. Tit-for-rat-ta-tat-tat, baby! But then such interpid individuals can expect a literary salvo in return. Hear that whistling? That’s the shell heading your way. Better jump in your foxhole, get in the fetal position, and pray to the god of your choice, ’cause the Pale Horse is a comin’, sunshine.
        
        Incidentally, friend, whether one is witty, clever, or glib (wickedly, righteously, or otherwise) is all in the eye of the beholder. See, just because I might hold the opinion you’re a nattering twit blither-blathering away your free time (I mean, the same could be said of me) does not mean that there isn’t a pretentious brain-trust floating out there in the nebulous ether that absolutely thinks you are pregnant and dripping with fecund profundity.
        
        However, this hypothetical beacon of cognitive prowess might want to replace the flickering 10-watt filament illuminating their myopic, microcosmic lighthouse. In any event, you keep on keepin’ on there, chuckles. I’m sure there are a few mendacious souls out there who will appreciate your pharisaical and opprobrious rhetoric. Excelsior!
        
        (Ball’s in your court, sweetheart. Let’s see whether you have a strong backhand, or just a limp wrist. If the latter is so, better not use too high a caliber, or your return volley will flip the barrel back and break your beak, and wouldn’t that be a shame?)
      - cawpin
        
        You’re trying too hard and not contributing to the conversation at all.
      - MonkeySniffer
        
        It’s been a long time since I read the mental farting of a butt hole of your magnitude! Are we supposed to be impressed with an obvious loser that thinks big words make a smart man? The only thing that keeps you from being the most mind-numbing boor of all time is that you are a hoot! Not your words, YOU. Did your mama go to changin’ your diaper one day long ago and stick her finger where it shouldn’t go? Seriously, were you born a steamin’ pile, or did you have to work at it? Please expound with that extremely derivitive verbosity and narcissistic hyperbole that speaks volumes but says nothing… C’mon, give it your best shot, Skippy… and this time put some stank on it…let’s see exactly how not-worth-a-damn your upbringing REALLY was… whadya say?
      - http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall
        
        I think it would be nice to respect all mamas. Let’s leave every one’s mother out of it. Slick Jimmy said a whole lot of truth. I respect your right to speak your mind just as much. But we don’t have to get vulgar about our relatives. After all, you wouldn’t say it’s nice to point out that our president did not pay the $1000 needed to keep his nephew alive, that his brother, George Obama, got the money from Dinesh Sousa, to keep our president’s nephew alive… in 2012. That wouldn’t be nice to speak about a relative, would it?
      - Bruno
        
        Thanks for the laughs.
        
        Being agreeable has never been the posture of any free peoples, but the attitude of serfs (or subjects).
        
        And here i thought all the Tories went to Canada after the Revolutionary War.
        
        BTW, Iceland just arrested all their crooked politicians and their bankster enablers earlier this year. They did an audit of their central bank dealings and went a hunting.
        
        Their economy is booming, now that they are not being robbed blind (think bailouts).
        
        I think i will drink a toast to Iceland today! Noble bastards. We should learn from them.
      - Gandalf
        
        The Hell with Iceland…I’m drinkin’ a toast to Slick Jimmy! That last diatribe was…priceless.
      - http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall
        
        yep. as priceless as Dr. Benjamin Carson (neurosurgeon who separated the joined twins a few years ago and received the Medal of Freedom) spanking our president with the message of liberty at the annual prayer breakfast yesterday. Watch the 26 minute video and feel proud to be an american. The good doctor was as politically correct as my adopted brother Slick Jimmy, and he is correct — when someone has to be worried about saying Merry Christmas, jeepers creepers… yay free speech
      - Avenger
        
        Well said … and funny, Slick Jimmy!
      - http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall
        
        oh my. neighbor heck–I think you are my oldest brother. …. Buddy?
      - tyler
        
        Someone hurt his internet feelings, so he got out the big guns….. ( the thesaurus).
      - JameWingood
        
        You are an amazing writer and should be paid to do this. I look forward to your posts and wish that I was on this site eight months ago so that I could read your thoughts and opinions! Thank you for the laughs and the use of my brain reading your post! Keep up the great work, again, I say that you should be paid to write. I would read your book with great glee!!!
      - Bruce1369
        
        OMG! He wasn’t tactful!! But he was spot on. That’s what really pisses you off.
        KMA bullmuse
      - http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall
        
        oh yeah, I really do wish you were my neighbor. We’d have you over for dinner often!
      - tanker
        
        Unfortunately, the Pres is a U.S. citizen. Unfortunately, he is the biggest liar to hold the office. He is also the most extravagant spender of tax money for his own and his family’s fun. He is not a communist, but he is not a democrat. What he is would make Awful Adolf’s ashes reconstitute and then he’d roll over in his grave. Barry is more of a National Socialist. WW II Germans called them National Workers Socialist Institution, or NAZI, using their acronym
      - NJHuguenot
        
        You mustn’t say anything bad about Obummer The Messiah.
      - JameWingood
        
        Amen!!!!!
      - Mr.Zin
        
        Agreed.
      - gun2carry
        
        I cannot agree more..residing in one of the “better” neighborhoods of Gary,IN has convinced me that regardless of my understanding of the 2nd Amendment, carrying a concealed weapon for self defense is a NECESSITY! Regrettably, it took a firebombing of a neighbor’s home and the screaming of both mom and her fourteen year old while they burned over a drug debt had convinced me it should be carried consistantly! Without limitations, without restrictions! Had our neighbors really felt free enough to be armed in a city with a propensity to restrict private gun owners and concealed carry, responsible action would have been taken to at least prevented the incident from occurring or may have stopped it in the act. Having spent several years as a police officer and over fifteen years in the US Army, I have been exceptionally trained and what dismays me the most, it took the the Gary PD over nine minutes to respond. If a Government fails to protect its citizenry, it is the absolute right of the citizenry to protect themselves!
      - Wilson
        
        The warden… he don’t want nobody starting any fights or trouble… he don’t like it when anybody tries to stick up for themselves neither.
      - http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall
        
        thank you for your service, Slick Jimmy. I wish you were my next door neighbor instead of the dolt who thinks obummer is the next messiah, not the Stoner/Snorter-in-Chief
      - Adirondack
        
        Well said Slick Jimmy!
      - CCWsher
        
        Hey Slick, and Gun 2, I’m on your team with this issue, not caring whether you are liberal or conservative. Slick, I loved your intro–sure got my attention. Your essay nailed it. And Gun2, what a horrible experience. Also bad, is that even if you have arms, there are restrictions in some states that if you are traveling in a car and someone threatens you at a stoplight, too bad, so sad. Oops!, My gun is locked up in the trunk, and ammo locked in another case. “Excuse me for a minute while I ———.”
      - NJHuguenot
        
        Under the UN’s plan called Agenda 21 we’ll all be riding mass transit. Is your city putting aside small parcels of land for parks? Turning down permits for single family housing? Allowing more multifamily housing in the city? That’s part of Agenda 21. The plan is for people to be herded into the city’s so we can use less carbon fuels. Familiarize yourself with this plan. It’s being implemented now.
      - RRR
        
        This is such a stupid statement I do not know where to begin. You have watched too much Hollywood TV. Let’s see I have two “50 .cal” weapons…they take black powder. My AR-15 is lawfully owned…wish I had a Hummer though….
      - Liz
        
        You sound frightening
      - bhg
        
        Yes Ar-15 rifles and semi auto handguns of all types should be kept by everyday citizens so they may train with and have 24-7 access to them so that they may bear them at a moments notice when needed. This is because the people , the regular citizens, the grocery clerk, the car mechanic, the landscaper the carpenter, become the citizen militia, the last defense against foreign invaders or a government headed to tyranny. Whenever the gov wants to restrict certain handguns or rifles to only military and/or law enforcement, they are infringing on the 2nd amendment rights main purpose for existing, The 2nd amendment was not for sport shooting for hobby or hunting, sport shooting is just a way to practice and hunting works as well with a bow and arrow. The 2nd amendment was so the people could defend against military threats whether foreign or domestic. Study history.
      - Liz
        
        My family hunts for food, with bow and guns.
      - J. Mac
        
        The 2nd Amendment was designed for the specific purpose you stated, but guns are not a requisite to wage war; in fact, they would really have little relevance in overthrowing a regime or foreign invasion in today’s world. Look at 9/11 – a perfect example. Not a single gun used; bin Laden attacked the WTC due to Western occupation of lands holy to Islam. This is exactly the type of unconventional asymmetrical warfare that is used today. Bin Laden could have sent a Muslim with a gun to the WTC & had them go nuts, firing into a crowd, but do you think it really would produce the same wrenching affect for Americans as flying 747s into two symbols of western economic power and killing several thousand people still does to this day? I’m completely opposed to banning guns or severely controlling them, but I don’t see them as a crucial asset for asymmetrical tactics that are more effective than anything an armed militia could come up with.
      - Gandalf
        
        Here’s the difference. Millions of guns and hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition are all ready out there, in the hands of the people. Whether “the people” know it or not, they are an available paramilitary resource that can be called upon if necessary to resist a foreing invader, or can also be (if they have the will) assembled and used to resist a domestic government bent upon tyranny.
        On the other hand, explosives are tightly monitored, controlled, and in many cases chemically “tagged” so that they can be traced. The “explosives” used in the WTC attack were aircraft commandeered by hijackers. and with all the new so-called security and domestic spying laws (yes, I said domestic spying…don’t kid youself that it’s anything else) now in place, repeating this type of attack is much more difficult). I’m willing to bet that the government is a heck of a lot more worried about the millions of firearms out here in civilian hands (many of which are untraceable because they were acquired privately without forms, background checks etc) than they are about some future “unibomber” – types with a car bomb which would be few and far between. This is as it should be. The government should be scared of the people. It’s a Hell of a lot better for the people that way than the other way around. If you don’t believe that, just ask the German Jews massacred by the Nazis, or the Cambodians who suffered and were butchered under Pol Pot’s regime…Oh wait, you can’t: there all dead; millions of them. Wonder if any of them would have liked a chance to at least go down fighting with an “evil gun” in their hands and a “2nd Ammendment” that would have helped protect their right to live. Yeah, I know, it can’t happen here; this is America. I’m sure there were lots of Romans who believe that as well…right up to the point where the barbarians began sacking the city. Several other civilizations/empires probably fealt that way too and, like the Romans, they’re long dead, too.
        Contrast the long dead civilizations above with the Swiss who’ve remained armed, neutral and FREE for over a thousand years. What do they know that our modern day anti-gun types don’t? Be honest with yourself and you’ll see the answer. But, here’s the answer on Swiss citizen-soldier gave. While observing Swiss military maneuvers, the German Kaiser once remarked to a Swiss soldier(I’m paraphrasing, now), “Your military is impresssive; highly motivated and well trained. However, you are only 500,000. What will you do if we Germans attack with a million men? ” The Swiss soldier thought for second and then replied, “We will shoot twice and then go home.” If you can understand the motivation of that Swiss soldier, you can understand why we need the 2nd Ammendment. If you cannot, then you will never “get it”.
      - JRedHorse
        
        Excellent post! and may I add another race of people destroyed because we were disarmed first ,my ancestors The Native Americans!
        The Government disarmed us once but it will NOT happen again because we now teach all our young people how to handle and use fire arms for hunting and self preservation.
        Thank you for a clear thinking view on a great subject!
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Ra-Hensel/1807876924 R.a. Hensel
        
        Native Americans? they weren’t destroyed as far as I can tell. They make billions selling tax free cigarettes and gas, operating casino’s and the likes, but expect all the benefits of living in a community, ie police and fire protection but aren’t willing to pay for them. By the way how many of your ancestors completely wiped out outer “tribes” for the purpose of their own expansion?
      - Bruce1369
        
        Look up the words destroyed and exterminated, r.a. Hensel. Oh, and read it, too.
      - NJHuguenot
        
        Wacovia Banl was brought down in less than three weeks by a “silent run” on deposits. The FDIC was making a cash run every day for over a week before it closed them down and put them up for sale. It was less than 5% of their deposits. Imagine a 10% run on all three major banks? Wars aren’t just fought with guns. There are also things that can be done to demoralze the populace so they’ll press the government to give in after a while. They’re so brain dead they will give in to anything that separates them from their XBOX and iphone.
      - http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall
        
        that’s because you haven’t witnessed sharia law getting implemented in your state, where wives get beaten and the husband defends this with sharia law, and is not prosecuted. Pay attention and you will learn that I can hunt deer with an AR-15; then again, we can hunt deer with a handgun in this state. I prefer my pink bow and pink/purple arrows.
      - http://www.facebook.com/asheen127 Andrew Sheen
        
        Then you don’t really understand what COULD happen. Terrorist actions are a small part of the problem. Military, civil ( criminals ), and possible political are the threats that are still real. 9/11 happened and no handgun would have stopped it. But how many robberies have happened and the victim was shot, stabbed or otherwise hurt? These things happen daily.
      - Bruce1369
        
        Thought you might like this:
        Third Place
        After stepping around a marked police patrol car parked at the front door, a man walked into H&J Leather & Firearms intent on robbing the store. The shop was full of customers and a uniformed officer was standing at the counter. Upon seeing the officer, the would-be robber announced a hold-up and fired a few wild shots from a target pistol.
        The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, and several customers also drew their guns and fired. The robber was pronounced dead at the scene by Paramedics. Crime scene investigators located 47 expended cartridge cases in the shop. The subsequent autopsy revealed 23 gunshot wounds. Ballistics identified rounds from 7 different weapons. No one else was hurt.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Ra-Hensel/1807876924 R.a. Hensel
        
        Bin Laden didn’t send a army he sent cowards to do his dirty work, maybe a armed citizen on even one of those planes may have been able to stop at least one plane from crashing into the WTC or Pentagon
      - NJHuguenot
        
        Liberals like to throw up the argument that today’s poorly armed citizens couldn’t overthrow the government. They think all battles are fought on some defined battle field. I remind them of The Zvi Leumi Irgun, The Haganah, Shining Path, The Sandinistas, he Viet Minh, The Viet Cong, and the American patriots who fought underground and eventually beat their rulers. I hope it scares them to death.
      - WOP 2
        
        I couldn’t agree with you more. At the end of the day, all wars, short of nuclear annihilation, fall to the efforts of “boots on the ground”. Liberals don’t think (insert your favorite buzz topic here), so therefore no-one should be allowed to own (insert your favorite item here). One must give the devil his due. General Ghiapp, in his memoirs, (Ghiapp was Ho Chi Minh’s brilliant strategist during the wars in Vietnam. Yup, there was more than one!) wrote 2 telling things. The first was that if only 10% of the population would fight, but the other 90% would support them, no power could ever defeat a guerilla force. He also asked why, after the horrible defeat of the North Vietnamese Army in the Tet offensive of 1968, did the United States give up? The pussies in D.C. would never allow a new American War for Independence to last long, and they’d throw in the towel. I’m sure your “lightly armed citizens” was a tongue in cheek remark.
      - Bruce1369
        
        You are very, very wrong.
      - Bruce1369
        
        You rationalize to try to make your point. Grow up.
      - http://www.facebook.com/GROL58 George Rolland
        
        You are so right but the main stream media and the progressive liberal leftists conceal their agenda with smoke and mirrors.
      - pete1427
        
        Here in Washington state, the AR-15’s .223 is not legal to hunt large
        game with, ergo I will not bother to purchase one. I do however have
        both 30-06 and .308 former military type semiautomatic rifles in my
        personal collection .
        I do however agree with the rest of your post.
        I live in Washington state, I do have a CPL (WA version of a CCP/CWP)
        and I do own more than a few firearms.
        I am 68 years old and have two honorable discharges from the USN.
        (Vietnam era veteran)
      - NJHuguenot
        
        SEABEE?
      - pete1427
        
        NJHuguenot
        
        Naval Air—I often flew as a crew member on ASW aircraft*
        
        primarily as an ECM operator. I was an AT
        
        (* SP2H Neptunes, and P-3 Orions)
      - NJHuguenot
        
        I asked because few Naval personell handle small arms after boot camp even in a 30 year career.
      - pete1427
        
        NJHuguent
        You’re correct regarding a lack of additional small arm use by
        most naval personnel. I enlisted in 1963.
        In boot camp, I was trained on both the 1911 colt 45, and the
        Springfield Arms 30-06 M1 Girand. I currently own modified
        versions of both of those types of weapons.
        The reality is that when I now take those two types of weapons
        to the range I probably fire more rounds in one or two days
        than I did firing them during my entire time in service to the
        US Navy.
        I try to rotate my time at the range between my weapons so I
        can maintain at least some degree of proficiency with them all.
        My first firearm was an old octagon barrel Winchester pump
        22 caliber that my dad gave me as protection from bobcats
        and cougars while I was in the woods that surrounded our
        property. I was 11 years old then. My father (also ex WWII
        Navy plus a pre WWII stint in the Coast Guard) taught me
        weapon safety, and handling starting at about age 5.
      - NJHuguenot
        
        Being a SEABEE was different since we are organized more like infantry battalions.(Marines with trades) As an electrician I was assigned to Bravo Company with the Utilitiesmen and we are a small arms company. M-16, M-60 and M-79 Grenade launcher. Some pistol but not much. The M-79 is now replaced with an M-16 mounted device, still “bloops” though. The 1911 is now a Beretta 9mm. I have a few .40s(M&P) and an AR15. The wife and I go to the range at least every two months. I was in 1971-1975. The only gun was my grandfather’s. He was a bear hunter. I think my aunt got it since she was still living near hom when he passed. I’m thinking of getting a pump shotgun. It’s the only thing I haven’t really had much experience with. I absolutley hate what they’ve done with the unifiorms. I had to wear Greens in Battalion but enjoyed the simplicity of Seafarers Permanant press. I heard a guy call the new blue camouflage great if you fall overboard because no one can see you. lol
      - USMC Gunny
        
        Nice to see someone actually UNDERSTANDS why the 2nd was actually put in place! Thank You
      - WorriedfortheUS
        
        What gun law will stop a tard from buying a “hummer that has been made bullet proof” OR someone from mounting a .50 cal on it? We lave enough laws we just need more people to understand them so they can be enforced…… M-4, M10, 9mm, .40, .45. closest cops 15 minutes away!!
      - Liz
        
        NONE
      - WOP 2
        
        Uh, guys and gals. Someone has indeed already bought a hardened HUMV with a .50 cal mounted on it. That somebody is the United States Army. I must remind you that at the end of the day, the 2nd Amendment is about your ability to resist a dictatorship or other repressive and oppressive form of Government. Hopefully, on November 6th, a sea change will occur, and worries about Federally owned armored vehicles will be allayed. Its much better to effect change using the ballot box, not the bullet box, and far less bloody.
        Patriots have, in my never humble opinion, a duty to maintain arms, ammo, and equipment suitable for military purposes. These are to defend yourself against any enemy of the Constitution, foreign, or domestic.
      - 2-7 tech
        
        Actually, it’s not HUMV, it’s HMMWV, which stands for high-mobility multipurpose wheeled vehicle. Join the Marines and get educated, then post propers acronyms on gun blogs…
      - WOP 2
        
        2-7 Tech. Sorry to have incorrectly identified the HUMV, Hummer, or whatever. You see, I’m just a sorry assed enlisted swine who spent 20 years in the Air Force and retired as an E-7 before the Hummer came along. Besides, rather than travel by off road, kidney shaking vehicle, we usually hitched a ride on an airplane. I can’t join the Marines. I’m way too old, and once you have retired, you are done! Uh, by the way, besides being the spelling policeman, did you have something germane to say about my original post? Oops, my bad. Far too much to expect from a seasoned veteran of the Corps.
      - Gargoyle Tactical
        
        I hate to say it…but not a lot of Marines will cut you any slack when you say you were Air Force… Then again, neither will guys from the Navy, or Army, All of which also hitch rides on airplanes, helos, gunboats, RIBs, HMMVs, APCs, and a host of other means of delivery, but thanks for your service anyway.
      - JRedHorse
        
        WOP2 Thank you for your service to our Country!
      - http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall
        
        amen. that duty includes being proficient with arms. I’m with u.
      - Cameron
        
        “a 50 .cal weapon and then mounts it on a hummer that has been made bullet proof?” seriously? Why don’t you grow up and stop believing in bogey men.
        We DO need to have AR-15’s being beared by everyday people, it is the only thing that keeps our Gov from using force against us. 2A is for tyranny, not just burglars.
      - http://twitter.com/Jaybuck JD
        
        It would have to be cased being desplayed outside vehicle in most states.
      - Joe
        
        Oh Yeah, baby, $30 full auto 50 cal sniper rifles! Everyone in the Wally World parking lot is selling them out of the back of their pickups. The ones with the rebel flags. The proceeds all go to hate groups. Tanks and attack drones can’t stop a Hummer! We’re DOOMED! The government must SAVE US!
        
        I am sick of your contemptible politics of fear and your entitlement slave collar predation. You wouldn’t know moral nor intellectual integrity if it bit you in your godless low salt, soda free, smokeless, tofu ass. Chicago is the murder capital of the US, perhaps the western hemisphere, because it is filled with disgusting tools, ignorant hysterics, clueless chumps, and degenerate entitlement grubs like you: Those deaths are all on your own bloody, joyless, fascist weasel hands.
      - http://www.facebook.com/Jeremy.M.Grimes Jeremy Grimes
        
        Why don’t we need everyday people bearing AR-15’s? Anyone with brains understands that the second amendment was written to ensure that if the government should ever become tyrannical and need to be overthrown, then the people would have the capability to do so, by being well-armed. Everyone talks about how the founders didn’t have automatic weapons, but do they remember what they DID have? CANNONS! You don’t hunt with a cannon, you wage war, and the second amendment didn’t exclude cannons.
      - FreedomGuy
        
        You make a great case for allowing law abiding citizens to own .50 cal rifles and armor piercing ammo. So we COULD stop that nightmare!
      - klamathinternet
        
        The 2nd amendment says nothing about “need” in regards to any specific firearm. It gives us the right for ownership and carry only!!
        
        As far as what we own and carry is the freedom of choice we enjoy in America. It isn’t that we “need” any specific type of firearm; it is that we “want” a specific type of firearm based on many considerations. Some of these considerations include, but are not limited to, fit and feel while holding it, personal preference toward a gun platform (lever action, semi-auto, etc.), etc., etc.
        
        If you let the gov’t choose what you can have in guns, then they will later choose what you can have in cars and then in ………………. It will never stop. After all, nobody “needs” a sports car, or a truck, or even a hummer.. But many people have these very different types of vehicles because that is what they “wanted” !! If you think this last statement is unreasonable, just think back a few short years ago when they were blasting those “very dangerous” SUV’s !!!!!!! (See, they have already tried to choose your car for you)
      - http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall
        
        yup, just like they choose our lightbulbs which now secrete mercury… nice. (not)
      - WNYMAK
        
        And, you don’t need and SUV nor a 32 oz. Coke, nor access to world-wide internet, nor private news media, nor…..
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Ra-Hensel/1807876924 R.a. Hensel
        
        if some can buy a .50 cal and mount in on a bullet proof humvee, then i suppose someone can buy a RPG and take care of the armed humvee threat. its not about about the gun or size of it , its about having a Constitutional right removed. what’s next the First amendment? after all no one should have an opinion right?
      - Andy Wolf
        
        Guys with simple homemade devices stopped vehicles all the time back in Iraq, unless my memory from 15 months there serves me wrong. Your scenario is pretty absurd.
      - Bruce1369
        
        You are a paranoid madman! Seek mental help, quickly!
      - Liz
        
        Thank you for your erudite statements.
      - BullMuse
        
        So a constitutional law course and a marriage certificate somehow made you personally privy to the thoughts and political beliefs of all New Yorkers, eh? What a buffoon.
      - BillMuse’s thumb
        
        buffoon, really? carefully remove the thumb out of your anal cavity, now insert it in your mouth and suck it vigorously.
      - http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall
        
        he had to remove this fist, not his thumb
      - Bruce1369
        
        We don’t need to be privy to their thoughts, we just have to see what they have done. (voted for) What a buffoon.
      - MNMike
        
        @Mattyoh – I believe all lawyers would be required to take at least one class in “Constitutional law”. The problem is they are often taught by people who don’t understand (or choose not to acknowledge) the actual meaning of said Constitution AS IT WAS RATIFIED. They prefer to accept (or whole-heartedly endorse) the notion that we can reinterpret the meaning simply because it suits an agenda.
        Oh, and your “trailer” remark is rather insightful as to your intellect (or lack thereof as it may be).
      - Liz
        
        Shame on you. What juvenile speech. Why make such a critical statement of anyone who may live in a trailer? Trailers can be beautiful and very dangerous in bad weather. Pray for your brother/sister to be safe. But You guys are sounding like the brats that are the Presidential Candidates. We carry weapons and need to be professional at all times.
      - http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall
        
        oh yeah? Now you have. When my constitutional law professor needed the right answer in law school, I had it. Yup, this Proud Conservative most definitely knows what I am talking about; I give away copies of the Constitution and I have even read the Federalist Papers. BTW, I do not live in a trailer. We own two homes, 2 BMWs, one SUV and a motorcycle and they are all paid for–because we work hard, tithe to our church, and live frugally so we can give to charities through donations and service, help our families and save for the future. And yes, we built this, because we put ourselves through school without government assistance, and we have no debt. We do have gratitude to God for blessing us. Can you say that, Section 8 matty? Do YOU volunteer at a homeless shelter? Do YOU represent veterans for free when they need to appeal to the VA? Huh? Do you? Please do not talk the talk if you do not walk the walk! By the way, we also have family prayer, read scripture and attend church. With love from, a very happy member of the Tea Party!
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Rillis-Barnes/816138399 Bob Rillis Barnes
        
        Perhaps we can meet some time and learn a bit about each other. I am a conservative from a Southern state who has had training in the constitution. I live in a house, wear shoes, and does not like the taste of beer. I would defend my life, my family, and have defended my country. To do so I am willing to be “certified” in concealed (or openly) carrying.
      - theTaxman
        
        I worked supporting the U.S. constitutions for 39 years, including military 1969-1971, and am a Life Member, Vietnam Veterans of America. Come again, Whitehorse67, where have you walked? What constitution do you follow? You shouldn’t knock other Americans who hold different politics, some of them would have died for your ars. theTaxman
      - Liz
        
        We need to give each other a bit of liberty. We are only speaking in the moment. There is no way for any of us to know in detail the depth of our personal beliefs and convictions. God bless every Vet.
      - Pissed off non resident
        
        There is a bumper sticker that reads “You can’t be liberal and believe in the 2nd ammendment”. The problem liberals have is coming to grips knowing that they vote 90% of the time for liberals who don’t believe citizens should have the right to bear arms
      - BullMuse
        
        Wow. A bumper sticker says that, really? Then it MUST be true. Well done, Socrates. I bow before your impeccable reasoning.
      - J. Mac
        
        I think you’re setting the bar a little high there with 90%, particularly because it is entirely subjective and you have no window into their minds; and regardless of political stance, not even close to 90% of Americans (of the approx. 50% who do vote) have a clue what they are voting for – if they did, the Democratic Party and the GOP would have long been kicked to the curb… George Carlin nailed it when he stated “Garbage in, garbage out,” and that wholly rests on those who vote without being fully informed. If a democracy is to work, it needs to follow something akin to real democracy; one where those who take direct responsibility for the body politic (a Civilian, or one of a civic mindset – not referring to military nomenclature here, so the Jarheads needn’t get pissed) are those who receive the right to vote.
      - 1sgretired
        
        USA is not a democracy. It is a Republic! I hope you know the differense!
      - CCWsher
        
        We elect our leaders and lawmakers –republic In modern times, however, democracy can mean either people voting directly, or electing those who vote for us.
      - ninehour
        
        I cannot understand, after receiving voting privileges almost 50 years ago, why we use popular vote for everything but the president. The electoral college should be disbanned, demoted, eliminated or just blown up by a suicide bomber, then we’d all be a lot better off.
      - BudHall
        
        We use popular vote for ONLY State offices(our “Representatives and Senators). There are no National/Federal offices/issues elected by a popular vote because we are NOT a “national” democracy…we ARE a Republic of Democratic(democracy) States. That’s the basis for Constitrutional “States Rights”; each State is a democracy within itself. Popular vote for President might give you a “warm & fuzzy”, but if we went to popular vote for the Prersident we’d quickly loose any state self control or identity. ;-(
      - WNYMAK
        
        A Republic, where the people are sovereign and the elected go to do the peoples daily chores of paying the bills and enforcing our security, etc… They are not elected to tell us how to live. Trouble began long ago when people sold their vote for privileges that are easier to take than earn and are willing to give up the responsibility of managing their own lives. Mostly a failing of family which has been promoted by liberal social engineering. It focuses on moving us to socialism, then to a one-world view …where I suppose all the world’s people will join hands and sing Kumbaya.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Ra-Hensel/1807876924 R.a. Hensel
        
        your right we have been moving toward a socialist form of government for some time now. as long as people out there think they are “entitled” the move in that direction will be hard to stop. its become more of “I the person” and less “We the People”.
      - JameWingood
        
        Everyone but my Family and me! I was taught to use the brain that GOD gave me and to stand up for my rights and the rights of those of us that are too young or simple minded to think on their own. I know that we have the right to bear arms and I for one bear mine proudly. I know that many great people have served and many have lost their lives for me to have that right. I am forever grateful for the privilege to do so!!!
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Ra-Hensel/1807876924 R.a. Hensel
        
        read the definition of “Republic”— you cannot have a Republic without Democracy!
      - cawpin
        
        They are two different forms of governance. Democracy is a direct control by voters, the people. A Republic is indirect control by voters, representatives.
      - NJHuguenot
        
        The founders had nothing good to say about Democracy. They considered rule by mob.
      - jazondubya
        
        Ehhh…’Democracy’ as a state of being is a little different than ‘Democracy’ as describes a country. A few of us informed voters may vote IN democracy, the principle of people ruling popularly (I suppose that’s what you’re going for), but living IN A democracy just isn’t practical with more than…maybe 10 citizens. This is a republic, even if it’s a devolving one.
      - Bruce1369
        
        Wrong again. My, you are ignorant!
      - Jake
        
        No sir, I hope YOU understand the difference. The USA IS a democracy. More specifically, it is a Republic. Yes, a republic is a type of democracy. The two most basic plain vanilla types of democracy are direct democracy and representative democracy (aka a republic).
      - Thomas Feckin’ Jefferson
        
        The United States of America is a Constitutional Republic.
        
        It is not a democracy.
        
        Your ignorance is appalling and caused Baby Jesus to murder a dozen puppies and kittens.
      - Bruce1369
        
        You are wrong. Flat wrong. A democracy is not a republic. Pull your head out of your a$$.
      - JameWingood
        
        I am so glad that I am not the only one that knows this! Almost everyone is taught how to say the Pledge to the Flag and no one seems to listen to the words that we say.”to the Republic for which it stands…” I have been in many discussions with people that still argue that we are a democracy. Thank you for passing on that little bit of knowledge for others to learn from.
      - Bruce1369
        
        He doesn’t. He’s just what a communist calls a “useful fool”.
      - amstar23
        
        We’re not a democracy… we are a Republic.
      - Bruce1369
        
        You can take a sweet suck on my “jarhead” a$$, J.Mac. Your just another lib bigot.
        Try reading our founding documents, fool.
      - JRedHorse
        
        Thank you for your service!
      - Bruce1369
        
        If you hold “different politics” then you do not support the US constitution. Socialism vs. the freedoms provided in our constitution are incompatible. But you would know that if you had read our founding documents. So that makes you a liar. Where have you walked? I suspect with Karl Marx.
      - brianbwo
        
        I find it funny how every conservative points his finger at the liberals and says “You want to take my guns away!” when the ONLY party to try to do so, AKA the Brady act was brought forth by the Republicans. Also the only President to completely ignore the Constitution was George W. Bush. These aren’t my opinion, they are straight up FACTS that can be proven by anyone who can read a newspaper or do an internet search…
      - Cameron
        
        “the only President to completely ignore the Constitution was George W. Bush” -really??? what do you call Obama deciding he has the authority to KILL U.S. Citizens without consulting anyone outside the executive branch and then refusing to answer congress on the matter?
      - Common Sense
        
        And…. The Patriot Act passed by Bush had an expiration date. Obama signed the extension of the Patriot Act after it expired. Pretty fucking unconstitutional.
      - FreedomForever
        
        Wow! After reading your comment, I have come to the conclusion that your a retard. Go read a book and learn something instead of believing the lies the liberals tell you. Learn on your own! Nobama is the biggest threat to this country ever! He was placed in this country to bring us down period! Look at the spending he has already done…..thats like 5 or 6 trillion dollars. More than any other president combined. The sherriff in Arizona has already proved his birth certificate was forged. IMO hes a shiite muslim in sheeps clothing and he will do anything to bring in his new world order to the U.S.A. Be very aware of this monster because he is real and lives among us!
      - Gary
        
        You are calling someone else a retard, now that is funny after reading the BS you just typed.
      - http://www.facebook.com/otto.ladensack Otto Ladensack
        
        If liberals are anti-constitutional and conservatives are pro-constitution then we haven’t seen a conservative president in decades. The only politician I know of, offhand, that gives a crap about the Constitution is Ron Paul.
      - hasan o’reilly
        
        and being very liberal, i am sure you voted for those gun grabber liberal politicians such as obama/clinton. Hypocrite.
      - Ttack1947
        
        I was just looking at the carry map and couldn’t help notice the only black state, no pun intended, is where our so called President is supposed to be from and where he learned to be a politician. It’s also the same state where the Governors generally end up in jail often as not. Then there’s Chicago, which in the past, has had one of the most corrupt city governments in the history of this country. Apparently, it is a kind of “Buy here Pay Here” type of government in Illinois.
      - Plumberdan
        
        The simple truth is that we are in a State that has been daubed the Most Politically Corrupt State in the Nation. We used to have the initials ILL. and that is how most of us feel about our Socialist State Government Officials from the Chicago area. Our State is controled by the Chicago Machine and it sucks!
      - John
        
        If it was really socialist, you would at least have great healthcare and free college….
      - bfisher003
        
        You said it, Sir. I was born and raised in downstate IL. I think I recall cheering when the first Mayor Richard Daley keeled over and croaked in the doctor’s office. 😉 I moved out of IL around 35 years ago and wouldn’t move back there because of the corruption, socialism and rampant disregard for anyone in the state who lives outside of Chicago. The state is broke, driving businesses away in droves and I just hope and pray none of my tax money is ever spent to bail it out.
      - camaro
        
        I live in that black state (Illinois) and I would like to get a ccw,but our gov.would veto it when it comes to his desk.Chicago is holding most of our state from even getting the ccw to the gov.desk.The ppl from Illinois need to get the governers from he other states to talk some since to the governer of Illinois.
      - john
        
        Has Obama done anything to take away our right to carry? So far, I don’t believe he has. If you want to attack anyone about their anti gun status, It is funny though that
        Mayor Daley is followed by armed guards in a city where guns are illegal…
      - Cameron
        
        Obama HAS! Just not in america, all his work has been on the international level with the aim of circumventing the 2A and the judicial process all together. When the oppression comes, it will be wearing blue helmets and OUR troops will be elsewhere.
      - peter
        
        I am myself a current Marine. And in the oath I took i swore to follow orders from my superiors, but it also gave me a loop hole to only follow lawful orders. Any military member, police officer, or other such member of society who truly believes in the citizen’s right to bear arms would not follow an order that infringed upon that. I myself will go down shooting if the government ever came for my guns without due cause.
      - Larry Rhude
        
        Joe,
        I am what I suppose most would call a definite conservative. I am registered as a Republican but vote as an Independent. I know several people whom I would consider to be “liberals” and every one of them is anti-gun. I commend you on your pro-gun stance and hope you will convince others to our side.
      - http://www.facebook.com/richard.lewis.56679 Richard Lewis
        
        I have alot of guns and if the gun grebbers want my guns thay will have to kill me frist. I tought my 5 kids ot be safe & no how ot use them.I am 77 yeras old. GUNS DONOT KILL UNLEST YOU WANT THEM………………………………………..
      - Craig Stewart
        
        OMG…if your IQ is reflected in your grammar and spelling I pity your children. Were you the product of inbreeding?
      - ZEBB
        
        he ‘s smarter than YOU
      - JR
        
        Next time use proper grammar and spelling yourself. OMG, last time I checked, was not a word but an acronym. Is OMG in Webster’s Dictionary? Oh, I
        forgot, it is in the “Webster’s Dictionary of Texting Acronyms.”
        Find something more relevant to talk about. This type of comment
        makes you look ignorant!
      - cawpin
        
        “OMG, last time I checked, was not a word but an acronym.”
        
        If it isn’t a word, it isn’t an acronym. To be an acronym, it has to be a pronounceable word, like NATO. OMG is not an acronym but an initialism.
        
        Don’t try to educate people on a subject unless you are yourself.
      - R U STUPID?
        
        “If it isn’t a word, it isn’t an acronym.” – Are you retarded?
        “To be an acronym, it has to be a pronounceable word, like NATO.”
        – Says WHO, you? …LMAO! You have to be a liberal because only a liberal would be so idiotic.
        You are an imbecile that has NO IDEA what you’re talking about. A pronounceable word?!!! What about these ACRONYMNS: FBI, CIA, ATF, DHS …??? And yes, they are ALL acronym. Someone please find ONE reliable source that states acronyms have to be “pronounceable words”.
        And then even having the unmitigated audacity to tell someone else to educate themselves after showing your own ignorance. Pathetic!
      - cstewart
        
        ROFLMAO….two words for you JR….”Bite ME” you whiny little dick.
      - Cisco Kid
        
        Ha! ha! ha! cheesey.. . . . .
      - Bruce1369
        
        Well, well, well. Another lib bigot. Troll back to the HuffPo, lib trash.
      - Craig Stewart
        
        Far from a bigot and definitely far from Liberal. So blow it up your arse your racist piece of crap. Not sure where you got any of your BS. You must be a liberal spy.
      - Bruce1369
        
        …and delusional.
      - USMC Gunny
        
        Craig Stewart;
        Before you critique someone on their apparent lack of “grammar and spelling”, you may want to proof read your own cluster of drabble. The use of “comma’s and basic punctuation” in proper usage would be very much appreciated. Now, with that being said, GO FUCK YOURSELF!
        Thank you,
        USMC Gunny.
        
        P.S. Please use condoms, the world has enough idiots.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Darien-Astral/100003114525263 Darien Astral
        
        Joe – you are a conservative, you just don’t know it (yet). I pray for your awakening.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Watson/100003615047821 Jim Watson
        
        The Democratic party of today is not my Father’s Democratic party. The Republican party of today isn’t what it used to be either, they seem to have switched…
      - semi
        
        to many money is their god, The LOVE of Money is the root of all evil. We need true, devoted, conservative “original minded” republicans. Rubio I heard is now in favor of amnesty… BOOOO. Harry Reid if for senate bill 6 BOOOO (which welcomes terrorists in the USA if they want assylum) Why the hell are our troops in harms way then… Reid and his like thinkers need to be locked in the bottom of an outhouse for a month…to kinda clean out their minds…
      - Pissed off non resident
        
        That wouldnt help LOL
      - Brad never misses
        
        God bless whitehorse,im a vet also, i love our country hate our current leaders,,, they need pampers. I carry cocked n locked 1911 everywhere i go and sleep with it,,,,,god gave me the right. If the govement can hand me a machine gun then guess i can have my pistol!!!screw all you brain washed liberal stupid fucks.. Go to the wall and wake up,,,, there gone so you goat lovers can be gay,, fuck ya all. God bless america guns and rel women
      - http://www.facebook.com/caledurago1 Caleb Douglas
        
        Amen brother, 1st Cav. 2nd of the 7th 65/66. Don’t want to hurt no one, an’t gonna let anyone hurt me or mine..
      - Pissed off non resident
        
        Exactly protecting what you have, not looking for a fight. All it takes is one CC person to do something wrong and you hear see, see, CC doesnt work. All of the laws we already have on the books are plenty, but as I stated before, felons don’t give a sh*t about laws
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1158202589 Master Flash
        
        Wow/ Not many people are aware of that. I commend your knowledge.
      - ShuckFumer
        
        That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Democrat party today is communist. Republican Party today = socialist lite cowards.
      - lizzie mccallion
        
        Any one who carries a weapon legally and believes in the freedom provided by the Bill of Rights is a friend, no need for further labels.
      - lcp.pm
        
        If you are a liberal and carry does you senator, congressman or even president know this. if they do not, Tell them how you like this right and want to keep it. do not just blog it here. IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THIS RIGHT TO CARRY VOTE FOR IT!!!
      - Dpries123
        
        Well Said, I have yet to come across a democrat that wants to take away guns. Its just a tool republicans use to get votes.
      - Flyfishdav
        
        Are you kidding?! If you haven’t noticed, which obviously you haven’t if you really believe what you said, almost all of the current administration is anti-gun (anti 2nd amendment) with the exception of, ironically, Harry Reid. Of course he’s screwed up on so many levels it makes up for it. If this administration is retained, next year at this time you’ll be living in the United Socialists States of America. Like some have said, this is not the Democratic party of even 50 years ago. How can Democrats be so oblivious to what Obama stands for? It’s not like he hides it. He told us about it before he was ever elected. But some chose to ignor it because they disliked Bush. News flash, Bush wasn’t running again. Wake up before it’s too late. You probably won’t like Socialism!
      - WOP 2
        
        I beg your pardon. Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein,Schumer, Bloomberg have all proposed anti gun measures, including confiscation. What Democratic Party are you watching, Guatemala?
      - paul
        
        Rahm Emanuel wants to limit firearms even more for IL
      - jimbo
        
        What color is the sky in your world? You’re blind and refuse to see. You, are a tool of ignorance. Good job, though!
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=722136046 Daniel Stoner
        
        That’s got to the dumbest, most patently untrue statement ever uttered. Nearly EVERY national-level D is virulently anti-gun and supports any and every ban that ever comes down the pike. Not so with state-level Ds here, thankfully.
      - theTaxman
        
        In your corner joemc, theTaxman!
      - JeffG…
        
        I would disagree, it’s been my experience that staunch conservatives only support the parts of the Constitution that support their agenda, and ignore what don’t suite them.
      - http://www.facebook.com/caledurago1 Caleb Douglas
        
        When the president of the united states (Obama) has stated that the constitution is outdated and the Supreme Court does not have the right to rule on the constitutionality of a given law we should all be afraid and yes he has said that.
      - Student
        
        Perhaps you should reconsider your self-applied label and consider, “libertarian”, instead.
      - ltcurry
        
        Then do not agre with there politics, and you will not be a target of ridcule, as you woul dbe by youre own party of beliefs? Why have a firearm. the Gov can take care of it. You shoul dknow better. You are a Democrat, Liberal for gods sake, Right man. !
      - Vert
        
        The problem with being liberal and also a 2nd amendment supporter is finding someone to vote for.
      - brutallyhonest865
        
        I enjoy having the ability to carry a weapon. It gives me the peace of mind knowing I can take care of myself if the need arises. I agree with your comment above.
      - Andy Pannafino
        
        Did you vote Obama in ’08? If you do again in ’12 you will have to turn all your loving firearms in. Or maybe Barry will just take all our ammo away!
      - Gary
        
        BS you have a better chance of losing them with Romney. Obama hasn’t done a thing to infringe on our right to bear arms. Try listening to someone other than Rush Dumbball.
      - Liz
        
        I would hope to have someone like you at the dining table next to me in a place of business if a crime happened.
      - IndyMac
        
        Good there are some liberals out there that love their guns. That means it shouldn’t be a problem getting Obama and Hillary out of office.
      - Trucking U.S.A.
        
        Your right I open carry all the time, The police don’t like it and I don’t care 2nd amendment baby!!! We need every one to open carry, Every one i know is chicken, Its your right and stand up to it, Why pay for a permit you can do the same thing for free the only difference got to case in the trunk that is all the difference except for pistol ZONES and if you carry there you don’t deserve to even own a gun, Use your brain when you carry that’s all !!!
      - Pissed off non resident
        
        Wow most liberals I know shudder at the thought that you might have a gun on your person.
      - mog
        
        A further note….. more liberals (and Democrats) commit crimes of felony than conservatives. The mass media tries to spin it the other way. Find out how many main stream print or TV journalists can get passed on a drug review alone, for a carry permit. Check out the facts before anyone calls me wrong. Federal and county prison surveys are out there… Oh, and I do not do your home work if you disbelieve. Liberals hate the CCW because they have placed themselves at a ‘life’s choices’ disadvantage and there is no re-do. Most (not all) Democrats simply enable bad liberal behavior as “why can’t we all get along”. I was drafted and served my country extremely well and proudly also. This is a country with true liberty and a CCW keeps it that way.
      - earlycsa
        
        And what “group” wants to restrict gun ownership (not to mention carry), Liberals or Conservatives?
        
        Feeling “influential” in your group? (sarc)
      - http://www.facebook.com/james.andrews.505 James Andrews
        
        Then try to convince MORE of them to stop reelecting leftist, anti-Bill of Rights, anti-gun rights/cocncealed carry politicians! We wil never be able to advance national cc recoiprocity if you people keep electing leftist idiots into office!
      - GunTotingLib
        
        Most polls show that 30% of gun owners self describe as liberals, as do I
      - http://www.facebook.com/rick.pittman.12 Rick Pittman
        
        But vote for politicians who would remove them…hypocrite
      - Jim in Iowa
        
        Joe,
        As I said in one of my other post, there is a difference between Liberals and Liberal Trash. Most liberal I know don’t like guns, but respect my right to carry and I respect their right not to. It is the Bloomburgs, Clintons, Daleys, Obamas and their cronies in the world that are trying to circumvent the Constitution that I refer to as “Liberal Trash”. sorry if I offended you, you sound like a respectable liberal.
      - Mike G
        
        I am also liberal and support the right to conceal carry. I am from Colorado and I love it here except for the new enacted laws about everyone needing a background check even between family members and the magazine limit. Neither will do anything to prevent crimes but will cause law abiding citizens to break laws unintentially.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Darien-Astral/100003114525263 Darien Astral
        
        I am “from” NY; upstate born and bred – I left because of the state government (taxes, excessive laws, etc). In my opinion, Mike is right. My family and friends and most of the residents are brainwashed by lib/prog politics and agendas. NY: You can have it! I’ll visit when I absolutely have to, but I won’t stay long. I know; you don’t want me there anyway – ask me if I care.
      - Danimperial101
        
        I have a NY License and was denied in one county to get approved in another for a unrestricted one. I think NY STATE needs to pull its head out of its ass and make the law uniform across the state. And the city is full of its self. Although I do have to say that onece you get your license you are good for life and that is the only good thing about NY STATE unless you get a restriction then it really sucks. I also hope that the case in maryland that the judge said that self defense is all the reason you need for a CHL finds it way to NY CA HI and All the other comunist states. and once National Right To Carry passes my NY License has me set for life and I will never pay for another license again. Thanks NY
      - Docman
        
        I too live in NY – the STATE, not the CITY. My county possibly has more diary cows than people. I am college educated but hunt and shoot. Most people think that only hlllbillys and rednecks have firearms. I have a CCW for NY, PA, UT, and others. Most of my college educated friends also have CCW (here we actually call them Pistol Permits). I own a 50 BMG and enjoy shooting from .22 Short up to the 50. I can shoot during my lunch hour if I choose to do so. That does not make me brainwashed, that makes me able to make a decision to do what I wish to do, when I wish to do it. I’ve never had to use anything I’ve carried to stop a bad guy, and hope I never need to do so. The violent crime in the area I live in is very low, and my county issues many permits. Is there a relationship? I don’t know about here, but statistics for other states say there is.
      - Dan Pendleton
        
        What about those who frequently travel to NY with no provision to aquire a legal permit
      - uziman
        
        I’m curious how you got a full carry in NY?
      - uziman
        
        My mistake- My comment above, ”
        I’m curious how you got a full carry in NY?” was meant for Mike
      - brutallyhonest865
        
        I just read Mike’s comment and (a) he sounds like an idiot, (b) sounds like the type of person who should not be carrying a weapon, and (c) have used my gun to stop bad guys? He sounds like a 12 year old with a BB gun. I work in law enforcement. And in 9 years, I have pulled my weapon once. And have never used it. So “use it to stop bad guys” – You sound like George Zimmerman. Look where he’s at. You moron.
      - Red White and Blue
        
        Dont be a puss grow some skin and let the comments go. Good lord take offense to something a stranger said. Who cares what people say on here.
      - mopar1838
        
        I lived in the southern tier awhile ago and moved, I still have my NY CCW. I now live in VA and have a CCW here but neither state honors the other. So stupid. I have had my NY since 1970. I was going to try and have it changed to an out of state permit but was told if it’s not broken don’t yry to fix it.
      - Pissed off non resident
        
        You know what causes crime so why not get with your legislature and discuss the gun laws and the fact that felons will continue to carry illegally so lets not make it harder for the abiding citizen to CC
      - ShuckFumer
        
        I agree with Mike bc most people in this state are stupid to the extent of being mentally ill. I have been waiting almost an entire year for my permit, and my county (further upstate than you) does NOT issue CCW’s. A state that elects chuck schumer with 75% of the vote is beyond brainwashed…..
      - Newsie
        
        Whitehorse – doubt that he meant to lump you in with the lunkheads of NYC. It’s kind of a verbal shorthand used to reference the anti-gun types. When I tell folks that I live in southeast Michigan. They assume that I live in Detroit because that’s the notorious cesspool that everyone knows. They’re right that Detroit is a cesspool. They’re wrong that Detroit=Michigan. Not meant as a personal attack, I’d guess.
      - Annie Oakley
        
        How did u get a cow? I too live in NY Long Island Suffolk County to be exact. CCW’s are extremely hard to get. Saved for ex law enforcement, jobs that put u in the face of crime. Very difficult like I said.
      - OffendedByIgnorance
        
        There is part of they problem…”I live in New York, and I take offense to your statement.”(In my whiniest voice) Everyone has to be PC all the time and never offend anyone around them or you will be in twouble.
      - UYH
        
        NOT IN NYC !!!!!!!!!
      - http://www.facebook.com/pete.wasinu Pete Wasinu
        
        C.C.W FROM UPSTATE NY, NOT GOOD IN THE 5 BOROUGHS OR WESTCHESTER.
      - WOP 2
        
        Pete:
        That’s a pity. Here in PA, we have a statutory Firearms Preemptions Law that prevents local municipalities, boros, unicorporated areas, or even big cities from passing their own laws. Philadelphia has been spanked several times for throwing their weight around on this, and the last time it cost them 25 grand. Not a lot of money, of course, but its the principle of the Preemption statute. I would suggest you look into passing the same into law in New York. It could keep guys like Cuomo and Bloomberg at bay.
      - William Bennett
        
        I obviously can’t speak for Mike, but I am also a NYS resident and have had my unrestricted permit since 1987. I have been out of NY for 26 years while serving in the Army, and can attest that gun owners in NY are often very different than gun owners in other states where guns are much more socially acceptable.
      - mike
        
        Take offense to anything you want. Who cares?
      - nC
        
        Yes BUT zero reciprocity and Bloombertg ban in NYC unless Donald Trump Bill Cosby etc. Go west young man go west But not as far as Californi..
      - granny
        
        I have to assume that Mike does not mean the whole population of NY. My case is the same I do not live in the city. Am totally proud that you carry a .45 on a daily basis. He is probably referring to the Liberals that think we gun carriers cause any deaths except ones that come looking for it.
      - Bradley Hill
        
        Mike, you deserved that from whitehorse67, along with all 492 followers.
      - Wolf
        
        Whitehorse67 The problem is that the tens of millions in urban areas of New York, Illinois and California are by far the largest demographic representing those states and they decide for the rest of their state how they are represented and what the laws will be.
      - Bush Wacker
        
        IF there were not a lot of misguided folks in NY these anti-gun laws would never have passed as the citizens would not have put up with. I see a not of protests against the laws so many do not support them. However enough to for the Extreme Constitution hating democrats to get away with this.
      - 1911a145acp
        
        Actually your U.S. Constitution recognizes your PRE-EXISTING right to carry. It is the document that puts LIMITS on the GOVERNMENT’s ability to infringe upon your right. It you have to ask your local government for permission to exercise your rights- THEY are breaking the law.
      - mattj
        
        It is the truth whitehorse67. my stepfather was denied a concealed carry in albany because the judege said only first responders and police were allowed that privilege. not true.
      - KenB
        
        Since when is a right transformed into a privilege supposed to make you think the state ALLOWS you to carry
      - Floyd Britton
        
        10/4 on that
      - Frogmandiver
        
        As regretfully BLUE Oregon is we do fight off all the anti-gunners’ don’t we!
      - Hawkinsj1
        
        Mike, read my response to Alan and please do something to have your state honor my Texas CHL
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Watson/100003615047821 Jim Watson
        
        I just checked. Oregon will not honor my North Carolina Concealed Carry Permit. Talk to your elected officials for us Mike and help change that law!
      - Johncgcflorida
        
        Proven fact, states that allow CCW have a lower crime rate.
      - call me a commie?
        
        Anyone starting a sentance with “you people” shouldnt be allowed to carry a gun in any state, just my opionion and hate it all you want. And for people saying its your second ammendmant right to be able to carry a gun where in the 2nd does it say everyone can carry in public doesnt it just simply state that we can own them? Im all for ccw’s and have my mn permit but theres alot of ignorance on constitutional rights here i think.
      - Muskrat
        
        Mike, get a dictionary and look up” infringed”. It is our right to “Keep a bear arms”. Not just here and there, but everywhere in this USA. If you don’t agree,you are part of the problem.
      - http://www.facebook.com/caledurago1 Caleb Douglas
        
        I would argue that the founding fathers took for granted that the average citizen would be armed, they were as were their neighbors. One even stated that an armed populace makes for a civil populace. If you tried to tell Washington that he could not carry a gun he would have challenged you to a dual and shot you. If you do not like the constitution there is a process for ammending it, good luck on that.
      - Cpt Bob
        
        You are obviously unaware of the fact that the 2d Amendment states that we have the right to KEEP A N D Bare arms. That means carry them.
        You represent the threat to all Americans today, A lack of knowledge of what is going on!
        Many voters are going to vote because “their guy” is running. F*** their guy, vote for the ones who understand Freedom and the responsibility it demands/requires. History shows that Big gov’t is a failure. Sadly, history also teaches that we do not learn from history!
      - semi
        
        folks who have cc in nys arent the brainwashed ones… ever heard of politicians…with ulterior motives??? actually none of us should have to get a permit but some jack… altered the constitution back in the 30ies so i heard…
      - LA
        
        Guns cause as much crime as spoons make Rosie O’Donnel FAT! I only wish that ALL the states honored CWP’s they do with your drivers license.
      - Terri
        
        Im from NY and I agree with you.. PPl just dont get it.. if some felon wants a gun, hes gonna have an easier time getting one than the 10 print card toting law abiding citizen!!
      - Curmudgeon46
        
        And yet your state doesn’t provide reciprocity. Curious!
      - Liz
        
        Thank you for carry enough to protect those who are unable to protect themselves. I would hope to do the same. I would hate to live in IL where every criminal knows I am not permitted to protect myself, family and property.
      - Pissed off non resident
        
        Exactly! Same with Georgia
      - Repok
        
        I would love to spend some of my money in Oregon but, alas, Oregon does not accept my Colorado CCW.
        Idaho, here I come!
      - http://www.facebook.com/diamondmonaco Diamond Monaco
        
        I was originally born in Oregon and they are like a less educated California only with more hippies… I left 13 years ago and never looked back. I really wished what you say about Oregon is true. However, they won’t even honor my Louisiana carry permit.
      - http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall
        
        Thank you for preventing crime by dirtballs. I think it’s ironic that the only state to deny its citizens CCW has more people murdered there by firearms than American military killed in the Middle East. Those Chicago thugs are now hiding out in Iowa and running drugs here. You can actually watch Escalades with IL plates on county roads heading north through Iowa on Rts 150, 187, 63, 218 and 13. God help us…
      - RPJ
        
        Too bad Oregon is no better than many other states. I have 6 CCWs & am not able to carry in your enlightened sate
      - usser b
        
        the government makes up the rules and brainwash the public and most of them fall for it. if all carry the bad guys don’t know who is packing. New York try to go above and beyond the dam sky, ny full of shitttttt
      - http://www.facebook.com/victor.jenks Victor Jenks
        
        Not all of us from NY are brainwashed into thinking guns cause crime. A lot of us carry on a regular basis… I would rather have the dirtbags that commit crimes think twice because they have no clue who is carrying. Do agree that we have our fair share of libtards and are outnumbered… and most of us would move if we could.
      - Andrew4549
        
        The number of permits in Oregon seems about average (similar to my state, Colorado). I’m glad Oregon allows CCW’s but what I don’t understand is why there is such a HUGE number of states (28) whose permits Oregon will not recognize. No other state seems to give the cold shoulder to so many states. I agree with another contributor that ALL CCW states should have reciprocity!
      - Laurence Almand
        
        NOTE: California and New York will not recognize any permit from any state. I think the same is true for Illinois and other Demo-dominated states.
      - O
        
        unless you are rich I highly doubt you’ve ever used your gun to shoot someone.
      - kyusho
        
        Friend, you are one out of touch dude……better check you’re info on those statements……..things change in the real world…….have a good day…..
      - kyusho
        
        Sorry bout that Mike ,……comment was aimed toward Alan
      - FUAC
        
        Not all of us. Please remember that there is a big difference between New York City and New York STATE!
        Sadly the City sets most of the police so me and mine are moving to Pennsylvania.
        I’d suggest that those who can, do so as well. I’ll pay my taxed to a firearm friendly State from now on.
      - Shawn Stover
        
        Its the same in North Carolina, 9 out of 10 carry!
      - richie
        
        I was born and raised in NYC and I AGREE WITH YOU 100%…New Yorkers are BRAINWASHED that gun cause crime. ALL of the gun laws in NYC and NY state are UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! New yorker need to WAKE UP!!!
      - Aubert Modeste
        
        Mike I agree with you and I am a retired N.Y.C Police Officer and because I reside in Florida I cannot carry in N.Y where I am wanted by the Criminals. The President’s signature means nothing to N.Y under H R 218. All active and retired Law-Enforcement personnel should have the privilege to carry in any State according to the Law of the land. But States like N.Y do not respect the the Law.
      - Zilbonie
        
        Is it true in Oregon, the person is licensed, not the weapon….like a car..you have a license, you can drive my car…here we both have a CCW you can’t touch my weapon????
      - cawpin
        
        Any type of carry permit/license is issued to the person, not the gun. Some states make you qualify with the guns you are going to carry, or have them listed on your permit, but it isn’t the gun that is licensed.
      - hoopcat
        
        Some of the best god fearing, constitution abiding, gun toting rednecks I have ever met are from Upstate NY. They take their civil rights and constitutional rights as serious as we do here in Tennessee. So don’t go trying to characterize the many for the stupidity of the few. And generally, that few are the ones that are elected to be stupid. A strong nation requires a strongly armed civilian sector. Criminals will get weapons when nobody else can, and I am pretty damn sure they don’t get theirs thru legal channels.
        So don’t lump everyone in NY into that narrow minded view of yours. There are plenty of people in NY that would step up to protect their family, loved ones, and property. Don’t think so, go see for yourself.
      - Chris
        
        That Yankee air is getting to him I suppose, liberals, another reason why I will never move up north.
      - viki
        
        It would be great if Oregon honored Washington cpl.
      - dotson
        
        oregan does’nt accept ahs..dumbasses!!!
      - dotson
        
        oregan does’nt accept utahs..dumbasses!!!
      - Slidder
        
        I have a CCW permit for more years than I can remember. I live in Oregon. I travel a lot to Eastern WA but the second I cross the State line from Oregon into WA I need to ensure I absolutely have NO type of weapon/s in my vehicle. If an officer finds any ammo in my vehicle, he now has cause to do a thorough search. I hate to say it but with the World going crazy, when I go into WA, I make darn sure my “secret” hiding place can’t be found unless a police dog trained to sniff out weapons is with the officer. I honestly think “Politics” have a lot to do with WA not recognizing Oregon’s CCW permits.
    - 21gun
      
      If yours is so Good why can’t you carry in NYC…
    - Dale
      
      Your disagreement to every citizen having the right to possess a firearm is correct but…..EVERY law abiding citizen has the right to possess. Convicted felons cannot own a firearm regardless of the type. In order to purchase a firearm (long-gun or hand-gun), if you have been convicted of any crime that is punishable to 1 year or more, you are disqualified (can be appealed). Those with documented mental illness or those who are documented with violent crimes are disqualified (NO appeal). All applications for a concealled carry permit must go through a background check….it doesnt rely solely on the Sheriff.
    - whitehorse67
      
      Full reciprocity IS possible, and hopefully when the Liberal majority is booted out of the Senate, the current Reciprocity Bill will pass easily! This is an area that should be equal in every State. As long as you don’t have a felony or Mental illness, you should be given what the Constitution says you have a right to. Period. Problem is, those of you who live on the Bigger Cities have become accustom to the harsh laws that are pushed upon you. It isn;t your fault, it’s just what your used to. Her in my County in NY, I was automatically given a carry permit. Those with the power to make the decisions here hold out rights as citizens in high regard. I just wish those of you who live in very restrictive Counties could experience what we do here.
    - Mickey
      
      Hey Alan from Buffalo NY, I’m not sure what other states you have applied to for a CCW, but in the 4 states I have permits for, 2 copies of my fingerprints were taken, and an FBI background check was done. Can you tell me which states just glanced at your ID and handed you a permit?
    - Areyouforreal2 Ww
      
      Just goes to show how little you know about CHL laws. Most do not run just a name verification check and most states do require fingerprints. the fact that NY give one for life is stupid. Texas you have to requalify every two years or you lose your CHL license.
      Please do show us which states are so nonchalant about letting people carry concealed.
    - Heatmizer74
      
      The felons part i don’t get. if it was a violent crime then no gun, if he didn’t pay his taxes then still no gun? that doesn’t make since!
    - Rickdonjr
      
      Yeah may want to do some research before posting false comments to own a CHL you have to have a FBI background check with fingerprints and I think anyone who is lawfully able to carry a weapon should be able to carry a gun with them in any other state and as far as you saying you dont think criminals should be able to own weapons neither but guess what the law thinks they shouldnt have weapons either but guess what thats why they are called criminals because they do not abide by the law all the more reason you should be able to carry in all states
    - Thedeboe
      
      sad thing is … im registered with homeland security…my fingerprints are on file..i have a TWIC card and i have to renew all evey 5 years just to be able to work ….so seeing how i have a ccw ..i should be able to carry in all states..atleast that would be smart reasoning you would think
    - http://profiles.google.com/snatale42 Stephen J Natale
      
      Seriously, When people say we have a right, NOBODY is talking about convicted felons, mentally ill, or children. WOW! only from NY I guess. ALL STATES run the NICS or eqiv backround check at purchase time…ALL STATES! It’s federal law. Even in states that don’t require a permit to CC, the Federal disqualifiers still apply! The funny part of NY is most only know what NY tells them. I’ll bet gun control helps crime too right?
    - Camper_mike
      
      Stay in New York, and I will stay out of New York.
    - Nemesis1096
      
      Right ……. because New York gun laws aren’t just completely assinine. Felons, the mentally ill and children can’t own firearms in Ohio either. But if you are a law abiding citizen it isn’t a crime to own a handgun…… Like it is in New York where you have to jump through hoops to even own one. Most of my family live in Buffalo. A number of them are law enforcement and they think NY gun laws are garbage.
    - TripodXL
      
      Alan, you’re wrong. Most states take FPs and submit them to the FBI for a standard BI. They also run them through the NIC system as well. I don’t know any state that allows the sheriff to issue permits because you have the “hits”(sic) for his sister.
      - Trvorsmith
        
        communists muslims and liberals will destroy America with thier sissy faggot anti God Lucifer cock sucking politics. Liberals are not even real men thier scientologist and atheist propaganda will one day get innocent people killed mostly Christians so go fuck your selves no excuses for you and forget about political science the government is continually evil.
    - Brandon69
      
      In Sc and every other state requires fingerprints for you to get a ccp/cwp it’s a fed law the state. Then once the Feds are done they send an approval to your local sheriff where it sits until they approve you in your county.that being said all states have different hg-laws and is probably the reason for the cwp not being universal as people wouldn’t know all laws passed each year in every state…
    - Mike D
      
      your states not the only one that cross checks with the FBI. i know i know, you think your special because your state taxes the hell out of you and it still smells like crap. go get stuck in traffic somewhere
    - Hawkinsj1
      
      Alan, I wish your state would honor my Texas CHL. Here I have to take an 8 hour class in safety and laws pertaining to handguns, qualify on a prescribed firing range, submit a full set of fingerprints, be cleared by an FBI background check, and it is not for life. My original permit was issued for 4 years. I had to take a new class, qualify on the range again, submit a new set of fingerprints and be cleared by another FBI background check to get my renewal permit which is good for 5 years; NOT FOR LIFE. Texas will honor an New York State permit, but New York, for some reason will not honor my Texas permit. This one sided approach is why something needs to be changed. How about having your state catch up and do what is right.
    - Dave
      
      I’m from chicago where illinois is the last ‘right denied’ state. I disagree with the denial and I also don’t think open carry is a great idea, but I think if you want to conceal carry, you should have to take the same written and range test I had to for work. I was recently in arizona and any shmuck could carry. Better yet, I obtained a ccw in 35 other states with a 1 hour class…kinda ridiculous
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Watson/100003615047821 Jim Watson
      
      Gosh dude, I wish I had a sister!
    - Mercdragon76
      
      I’m sure your government tells you that more states dont do FBI fingerprints then ones that do but it is the other way around. I have my CCW from 3 states and all did same check as if I did not have any at all before.
    - Sdkinniy
      
      Your permit is only “good for life” if the gov’t decides it is. Just ask the citizens of Illinois.
    - Army89
      
      Every American Citizen should own and carry (concealed or not). It is a constitutional right. It is not a privledge it is a right. Thats like saying if your under 18 you cant be a catholic, or if your under the age of 21 you cant belive in Jesus. That is were i stand. im 23 years old and an athiest. so my personal age and religion dosent influence my opinion. iI do serve in the armed forces and belive that if the constitution that I lay down my life for says you can keep and BEAR arms you should. Individual States need to stop infrenging on our rights
    - Mgarrison1964
      
      My 12 yr old nephew has a long rifle as well as a shotgun. He is a very proficient hunter and I trust him around firearms a heck of a lot more than some of these so called neighborhood watch participants. His father is a ccw instructor as was his father. It is second nature for them all to practice safety and common sense at all times. Nothing wrong with a child having firearms. As long as they are educated.
    - Deez
      
      you do understand as a felon you “cannot” legally carry a weapon right? But if you have a felony on your record there isnt anything stopping you from getting an illegal weapon so in all honesty there isnt much you can do to stop them from obtaining such firearms, except arm yourself for defense.
    - Silveradoguy845
      
      I agreee I am also a CCW holder here in NY and also i was gun to gun with another here in NY when i was at a park not at night but in the afternoon minding my own buisness 3 dirty rednecks jumped out of a truck wearing dirty wife beater tanks with stains and surounded me and for no reason they were edging the one on to cut me and cut me and he lunged at me with a knife, i side stepped and drew my gun and since i was alone and they blocked my vehicle and no cell service i forced them back towards there vehicle to have them move it out of my way and the one grabbed a typical red neck gun in my mind a .50 cal revolver luckily no shots were fired and they left after what seemed hours. I quickly went to the state police about 1mile down the road gave them discription told them what happened etc. Turned out they found them driving around the block same area and the guy had a friggen NYS CCW Pistol permit! The troopers even thought and said these guys must of been on drugs or something as they did not have alchol in their system.. Here in ny all you need to do is pass a background check and thats it. i STRONGLY feel they need to require drug testing also, and some form of mental capacity or something because it is scarey
    - FirRsq
      
      I don’t know which staes do not require fingerprints but every state I have been in required tehm and in Florida it cost $45 or more now.
    - Student
      
      Alan – Convicted Felons have lost their rights of “citizenship”, therefore, they DO NOT have the Constitutional Guarantee of their “right to carry”.
      
      If one have “Constitutionally Guaranteed Rights”, all states should recognize said Right …… it is not a “privilege”.
      The same should apply as “driver’s license” and “marriage license” …… Article the Fourth, Articles of Confederation – one of the four “Organic Laws of These United States of America” guarantees that any “licensed activity” of one state must be honored by all other states.
    - ltcurry
      
      Uh, every state that issues a CCW permit fingerprints, 10 fingers. It puts you in the Federal Database as Required uy the Gov. I went thru it in Florida many many moons ago. I am glad to finally see other states recognizing it. But i will ner get the chance to go back to where i was born. Jersey, as even with a republican as gov the House and Senate will not allow it. Its a shame. its in our constitution. And the Gov tries its best to block it any way. At least 43 states agree with Florida.
      - WOP 2
        
        You are incorrect, sir. The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania is a true “shall issue” jurisdiction, issues a License to Carry Firearms, and does not require fingerprints. I cannot speak to other states Permits, Licenses, CCW’s, or whatever moniker they choose to use, with the exception of Utah. Utah requires training, and fingerprints, and does indeed send them to the FBI for a crosscheck.
      - Barcelo
        
        PA issues permits by county. You have to apply to your own local sheriff and each one I hear does things a little different. When I did live in PA, I never applied for a permit, but I did hear about people applying, and they had to have a photo taken and their fingerprints taken. The state says an NCIS check has to be run on every applicant and I don’t see how that can be done without prints being taken.
        
        A simple search of the requirements to receive a CCW in PA will show you that fingerprints are required in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
    - Barcelo
      
      I didn’t read all of the responses to this, but I didn’t see anyone point out that the basis for this argument is incorrect. I used to live in NY, now I live in Florida. When I applied for my CCW in NY, I had to submit prints, provide like three references, pay a fee, and wait. In Florida, when I applied for a CCW, I had to submit prints, take a safety course, pay a fee, and wait. I don’t know of any state that issues a permit without fingerprints and having an FBI background check done. There are a couple states that allow residents to carry concealed weapons without a permit or license, but they don’t issue, so those two or three states don’t count.
      
      The entire argument is based on the false belief that other states only ask for a date of birth and ID. Every state that issues a license/permit take fingerprints and run them through the FBI. A quick internet search will provide you with the requirements to obtain a CCW, so don’t take my word for it, check for yourself instead of listening to what NY politicians tell you, or what the NY news reporters tell you.
      
      In Florida, I have to renew and have my prints run every seven years, in NY, it was a lifetime permit that only expires if you get arrested or move out of the state. So, you might want to base your opinions on fact rather than rhetoric.
    - Americal
      
      Georgia also does fingerprints..As far as i know that is required as part of the background check
    - dave_j
      
      I seriously doubt anyone is arguing in favor of giving felons, children, or the mentally ill concealed carry permits. New York has a long history of irrational gun laws…until a few years ago, they wouldn’t even allow police officers from out of state to carry there! Regardless of what your stereotypical New York superiority complex may have led you to believe, the rest of the country isn’t some backwater, and the vast majority of jurisdictions aren’t just running a background check based on whatever name and DOB someone might provide. Nearly all require fingerprints at a minimum. Frankly, it disturbs me a bit that any jurisdiction would issue someone a CCW permit that is good for life…after all, who is to say that your mental capacity hasn’t deteriorated due to age, illness or other circumstances since you got that permit 35 years ago? Regardless of who the sheriff has “the hits” for, everyone should be required to renew their permit from time to time and demonstrate that they are still qualified to carry.
    - http://www.facebook.com/dw75474 Doyle Martin
      
      Ok Alan. I went through exactly the same fingerprinting and background checks as you as well as having to pass proficiency tests every 4 years and take a refresher course every 4 years. So, why in the world would my Texas CCL not be good in New York state? I agree with much of what you say in principle, but again, why in the world deny me my right to carry when I’m in New York – I just don’t get it.
    - blow me
      
      you’re a dickhead commie bastard
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Russell-Bellagrego/100000085193299 Russell Bellagrego
      
      You are way off and ill informed on other states investigations. Do your homework before shooting off your mouth.
    - Liz
      
      Sure that is why requirements should be the same. There are exceptions, as you mentioned, but for anyone who has qualified for ccw in one state this should be enough to freely carry in every state. I also had to do fingerprints in NM, have training and submit to a background check. This is fine, but should once be enough? I traveled this summer and had to review each states requirements for how to carry my gun, in glove compartment, in trunk, locked case and much more. Nonsense…
    - my 2 cents
      
      Um. I have 3 permits. (Oregon, Utah, and Arizona). All three of them required those same fingerprints and FBI background check. The liberal media lies to people in order to make them think that every constitution-believing state hands out firearms and permits to every rapist and meth head. Felons cannot legally purchase firearms. Likewise people with mental illnesses. If you have purchased a firearm recently (in the last many years) you would know this. That paperwork you fill out saying that you are not a criminal or insane, etc. is something done nationwide; not just in New York. And anyone who cannot legally purchase a firearm cannot get a CCW. And no I am not going to categorize all of you NY’ers as liberal morons; however that is a common trend over in that part of the country. Thank you to all of you NY’ers who do believe in the constitution and contribute to this country in a positive way. God bless America.
    - Jim
      
      First, there is a difference between “interpreting” a document, and just reading it for what it actually says. “Shall not be infringed” very simple words, that Liberals have “defanged” and changed to “does not exist”. A permit is given by your Owner and Master to do a thing that would otherwise be illegal. A Right needs no permit to be exercised. A Right can’t be given up or taken away – only a privilege can. There are actually very few true Rights, but a great many privileges doled out by the State. Think about these things…
    - Pissed off non resident
      
      Reciprocity is one thing but New York, New Jersey, Illinois, and California make it very, very, very difficult to gain a permit. Meanwhile the felons you speak of dont give a rats a** about a permit, thats why they are felons. So while these states place obstacles the felons keep on killing……..with guns stolen from abiding citizens
    - Rachel
      
      So you know for concealed weapon permit in michigan they collect all ten as I know other states do to. Being military new york was the worst place to be stationed based on how hard it was to take my property, hand guns, to my new forced residence. I could not get orders for anywhere else even if if i reenlisted so i finished my contract and went back home.
    - AmericanDad
      
      I had to submit fingerprint cards for Utah, Nevada, and Florida permits. I’m pretty sure this is more the rule than the exception.
    - Lou DeMarco
      
      Hey believe it or not, ALL STATES in the U.S. require a F.B.I. background check!!!!!! Why do you think 39 out of the 50 states are recipitory!!!!! The rest of you and your states are liberal P*SSIES and want to stand out and say your different!!! Like the “People’s Republic of California” your state and the rest of them are slowly killing our constitutional rights!!!!! New York and California are not stopping or slowing down the criminals by having illegal guns to commit crimes so why not allow a law biding citizen carry theirs legally to protect themselves from muggings and car jacking a that your great state has a violent history of!!!!! If the more citizens carried them the bad guys would think twice!!!!!!
    - Rev. Dave
      
      The U.S. constitution gives you the right to keep & bear arms, it does not say anything about being a felon can not have firearms. How long to you suggest a person must be punished for committing a crime? After they have served their time I see nothing wrong with them having firearm’s.
    - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1442361145 William Malicia
      
      MA is the same with the initial license. All renewals are right indes finger only since that is the one attached to the license for positive ID purposes. So it make sno sense that the only state in New England I can cross the border legally is VT, which has no license anyway.
    - http://www.facebook.com/prcandprc Patrick Colwell
      
      I dont think all Felonies should be dis qualifiers cause some are non violent ones and have nothing to do with that persons ability to protect themselves or others in society
    - Avenger
      
      Agree with you that some people do not have the right to bear arms (convicted felons, etc.). But the recriprical thing: MS also requires fingerprints and a background check. Have to renew every 5 years and a new picture and fingerprints every 10 years – yet N.Y. does not honor CCW from MS. Why is that?
    - Mike
      
      Can you list the states that don’t fingerprint applicants for a CCP? I am pretty sure they all do, and submit them to FBI before they will issue you your CCP
      - WOP 2
        
        Pennsylvania does not require fingerprints. They do not require mandatory training of any kind. They do run a background check using the Pennsylvania Instant Check System (PICS). PA is a “shall issue” state. Fee is 20 bucks for the photo I.D., and its good for 5 years unless sooner revoked for good cause.
    - John
      
      So, felons like Martha Stewart can’t own a gun? 2nd Amendment rights can be taken away forever if the government makes us all felons.
    - klamathinternet
      
      I must totally disagree with your assessment AlanBuffaloNY.. I currently hold CWP’s in 3 states and all 3 required a full application, fingerprints, and the FBI background check. 2 of the 3 also required a several hour safety class by an approved instructor… None of the states I carry permits in offer a lifetime permit either. All must be rechecked and renewed regularly (average every 5 years)..
      With all that, I must agree that once you are qualified and obtain a valid concealed carry permit from your state of residence, it should be honored in any state in our union; just as a drivers license is !!
    - Mark
      
      NOBODY is saying that mental patients, unsupervised children, felons and such ilk should have a right to possess firearms. That is a fallacy perpetrated by gun banners to make pro gun citizens look like nuts. Background checks for criminal history and cases of mental illness NEED to be done and those listed should not be able to obtain weapons.
    - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1738138761 Don Shipman
      
      Certain common sense comes into play when it comes to guns. Of course children shouldn’t own guns. They shouldn’t drive cars and play with knives too. Your argument is pretty dumb.
    - http://www.facebook.com/james.watson.3914 James Watson
      
      here in idaho we do to have to do finger prints and all the bacvkground checks they dont just give ccw permits away
    - http://twitter.com/pizza_pablo Pablo Sanchez
      
      @AlanBuffaloNY, yes, every citizen should have the freedom of armed self defense. If someone cannot be trusted, with a gun, then they shouldn’t be on the street. There are plenty people, in this country. If some do not want to play along, nicely, they should be locked up and for the serious felons, execution is a great option.
    - Justb
      
      Most states require the fingerprinting that you refer to for a concealed license although some states don’t require a license at all.
    - Marty
      
      Convicted Felons, mentally ill, perhaps some. But all? No, the gun grabbers are using PTSD to ban Veterans from having CHL, some want all combat vets to be declared mentally ill when it comes to CHL, except those still in the service or who are LEOs, and not all felonies are the same, there are now many non violent felonies, do you want to deny to them, there are so many laws and regs out there that on a given day many people are unwittingly committing crimes i.e. if you tell the State of Mass you have health insurance, and you don’t even if you think you do, that is a felony,
    - Marty
      
      PS Alan how are them NY gun laws now?
    - The Dude
      
      VA has NY beat, had to be finger printed by county of issue and provide 2 passport sized photos
    - CCWsher
      
      In Missouri, fingerprinting is required for CCW and must be renewed every three years. You seem to be up in “arms” (pardon the pun) over this, like most would want children, felons, and mentally incompetent to have guns. On the one hand I’m surprised you have a lifetime membership w/ Mr. Gun, w/o having to check in once in awhile. On the other hand, I think it’s ridiculous that not all states have reciprocal CCW laws. It’s too difficult for law abiding citizens to get arms in some states, and then there are travelers who are required in some localities to unload, separate gun and ammo then lock all up. Look at the poor suckers in Chicago. Have restrictions helped them?! Of course not! Their crime rate is horrendous. I won’t insult anyone’s intelligence by explaining that one. People should have a right to prepare protection for themselves and family.
    - http://www.facebook.com/asheen127 Andrew Sheen
      
      But New York does not make you take any kind of class, where the instructor can say yes or no to your ability to use properly. Also a concealed weapons permit requires a background check in most if not all states. This is not a local check but a federal check. You need finger prints and I.D.
    - cntrysteve8
      
      Listen no one wants a violent person shooting up the streets,schools ect…. and if you want to carry you should. It’s your human right to life, as it has been said you don’t cut off the Antelopes hoofs and antlers to protect him from the cheetah, you go after the cheetah. In this country of ours we had a saying …”Innocent UNTIL Proven Guilty” We have lost our sense of pride to work hard, teach kids morals and respect. We have told our kids not to lie but every day we watch politicians do it. We’ve become our own watch dog that “big brother has trained us to do we don’t even see it. Turn your fellow Americans over for a $500.00 reward?!<<<< I read this today, don't people realize that is more tax money, cause you know it isn't coming out of their rich hands….. Wake up people the 2 amendment was really for the sake and safety of our freedom, and against those that wish to use their power and influence to say they know whats best…. Are we that scared to live that we wish to be told how to live??? A gun is a tool, just like a hammer, steak knife, and even bare hands, they can be used for good or evil. The choice will be up to the person.
    - Compromise Now
      
      Florida and Texas require a fingerprint search before a CCW s issued but Florida allows residents to also carry tasers, Combat Knives and Billy Clubs
    - Paul
      
      Have you even read the US Constitution? The right to bear arms shall not be abridged. The Federal government does not have that right. Felons who paid their penalty should be able to have their rights and be able to vote also. Maybe you agree that your rights for freedom of speech should only be done with approved government speech. Or you right from unreasonable searches should be yielded if the Federals want to poke around. The Federal government was not given any right to abridge our rights. That is what the Constitution says. Now it does not say that the Sates can not do something.
      - cawpin
        
        “The Federal government was not given any right to abridge our rights. That is what the Constitution says. Now it does not say that the Sates can not do something.”
        
        The constitution applies to ALL government in the US, not just the Federal government. State governments must abide by it as well. That is what they agreed to do when they ratified it.
    - James O Donnell
      
      Go fuck yourself, Alan from Buffalo, NY
      
      We have the RIGHT to keep and BEAR arms. Not the “privilege” to do so only after jumping through 15 hoops, shelling out $600 and blowing a half-dozen bureaucrats.
      
      Your pathetic suck-dick appeasement is the reason that New York just passed its nightmare gun control laws.
      
      You’re a sheep, and you deserve the bad things that happen to sheep.
    - David Brouwer
      
      All states that issue CHL require fingerprints for FBI checks. That’s the only way the FBI does background checks. NICS doesn’t use fingerprints for background checks for buying guns.
      - WOP 2
        
        I respectfully beg to differ with you. Pennsylvania does not require fingerprint cards for a License to Carry Firearms.
      - David Brouwer
        
        You are right, I didn’t know that. They really need to change that and fast. PA needs to take a good hard look at their whole setup.
      - WOP 2
        
        Pennsylvania’s Constitution, Article I, Section 21, says “The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.” Consequently, a License to Carry a Firearm, even though inexpensive, is unconstitutional. HB 671, Constitutional Carry, is winding its way through the legislature as we speak. If passed, no permit, license, or other document will be required for a non-prohibited person to carry a concealed firearm. That is how it should be. To your point, Pennsylvania’s legislature has taken a “good hard look at their whole setup.”, and we are working towards Constitutional Carry. And you have a problem with that because__________?
      - David Brouwer
        
        I don’t have any problem with that, I wish it was that way here in Texas. We are still trying to get open carry here. I never understood why we needed government permission for a right. What I was talking about was the fingerprint requirement it is they only way a state has to truly know who is applying for a CHL and with out it is worthless. Anybody can use fake ID and lie. Of course criminals don’t bother to get a CHL they just carry illegally.
      - WOP 2
        
        Thank you, David. So far as fake I.D., we have a larger issue at the polls than with License to Carry Firearms. One must consider that in any shooting, God forbid it happens that any of us must use lethal force, there will be a hard look taken at the shooting by investigators, District Attorneys, and others in Law Enforcement. Just because Pennsylvanians have a Constitutional Right, we must all exercise prudence and responsibility. When I am out and about and well heeled, my radar is tuned to a higher frequency, and I recognize that if I’m not under IMMINENT danger of grave bodily injury or death, its far better to retire and live to fight another day. Of course I’m old, have a couple of fractured teeth and fingers from my younger days, and have learned to tolerate and avoid morons when possible.
        So far as open carry, I do respect anyone’s right to strap on a blaster and go about their daily chores. Personally, I don’t care to draw that much attention to myself. I do, from time to time, carry openly, especially in our beautiful woods and forests. Sometimes, though, in foul weather, I cover my sidearm with a jacket. Strangely, at that moment, I must possess a license, as the sidearm is concealed. Pennsylvania is working hard to adopt Constitutional Carry, and to clarify Transportation of Firearms.
        Keep working on your Legislature in Texas. Open carry isn’t off the table so long as you keep fighting for it.
    - Pete C
      
      You sir, could not be more wrong. The 2nd Amendment is a right given to us by our Creator so that no man could take it away, just like all of our rights. If a convicted felon, child abuser, etc. is still danger to our society then why are they not still locked up? Why do child abusers get to roam the street when it has been determined that you can not remediate them? There are only one set of people that are not supposed to have rights and those are prisoners. Letting them out is the problem.
      
      Also, the slippery slope you go down when you say that some should and some should not have the right. Who gets to determine the some? The federal government? HA. Read the 10th amendment sometime.
      
      It is actually permits that are a violation of our 2nd Amendment right. This amendment is the only amendment that says “shall not be infringed”, yet look at how infringed it has become.
      
      NY is the worst violator of our 2nd Amendment rights and you, sir, have the audacity to defend them.
    - NRA
      
      bullshit
    - fred
      
      michigan also checks fed background and fingerprints.
    - http://www.facebook.com/guy.epperson.7 Guy Epperson
      
      Hi Alan,
      
      Alan said “I absolutely DISAGREE that every citizen has a right to possess firearms. Convicted felons,”
      
      I agree with this but also disagree with this.
      
      I agree that is someone has been convicted of a felony which involved serious injury or death to someone else or they are convicted of committing a felony while using any type of weapon (A baseball bat can be a weapon in a felony assault) then they should not be allowed to possess a firearm.
      
      But there are many people who have been convicted of nonviolent felonies which did not include the use of a weapon. who were punished for their crimes already.
      
      Wouldn’t continuing to punish them be kind of like double jeopardy because they will be punished again after already being punished?
      
      Say someone gets convicted of fraud and is convicted and sent to jail. 10 years after they get out of jail they have gone straight and obeyed all the laws. Should they not be allowed to buy a gun to hunt with or protect themselves and their family?
    - citizen soldier
      
      just so u know NC has the whole 10-print finger card and the same background requirements still that little red bubble up there in the north don’t reckonize nc permit
    - NJHuguenot
      
      North Carolina has the same rules for issuance of a CCW Yet we cannot carry while traveling through the state. I thought it most laughable taht Nany Bloomberg wouldn’t allow National Guardsmen to carry a gun in his city. They couldn’t do anything until thay placed a request for NYPD to bird dog them. I disgusting Communist operation that won’t even trust teh National Guard? I’m glad I left that crap hole in 1964.
    - Phil Becker
      
      Here in Texas, we must take a firearms course, with a shooting proficiency test, then we submit the same fingerprint card, and run the same background check, our licenses have to be renewed the first time in four years and you must retake the course and repeat the background test, then renew every five years. And YOUR state doesn’t recognize our state.
    - Craig Stewart
      
      AlanBuffaloNY , you should stay in NY where all the other morons and degenerates live.
    - Ivanjon
      
      Don’t tell me full reciprocity is impossible. Is your drivers license or citizenship or insurance coverage or your money or countless other things questioned from state to state? It’s only because of our bureaucrats that keep our great nation from running smoothly and functioning properly. Look at this state of IL…It’s all about the money for them. And why did the pilgrims leave their countries across the ocean??
    - Mike O’Brien
      
      Speak for yourself Alan. I’m from NJ where unless you’re a police officer or work as an armed guard, you won’t carry a gun in your home state, EVER besides at the range or in your home.
      
      Once your right to bear arms is denied, maybe you’ll understand why it is so important. In the meantime, I’m moving out of this liberal hell hole.
    - Ray in Idaho
      
      The reason that reciprocity does not exist is that the Democratic Senate won’t allow the bill to come to a vote. This has been covered on both the NRA and Gun Owners dot org web pages.
    - SteveTN
      
      I don’t know about most states AlanBuffaloNY but in TN we were fingerprinted when applying of our carry permit. You may be assuming a little too much about other state’s ID process. Interesting we all go through fingerprinting and all kinds of background checks so that we can enjoy our second amendment rights but the people that vote into office our elected officials that could possibly take away our rights don’t have to prove citizenship, have a valid ID, etc. to vote (that would be voter intimidation).
    - William Bennett
      
      Every citizens absolutely has a right to possess firearms, until that right is taken away through a judicial process. I am also a resident of the People’s Demokratik Republik of New York, and have had my unrestricted permit since 1987. Fortunately I was smart enough to join the United States Army and had the opportunity to live in the south and Midwest for the last 26 years. Next year I head to my last assignment in Texas and I will never return to NY for anything. Those who think like you are part of the problem.
    - BillyJoeJimBob
      
      same here in Indiana Alan
    - James
      
      Most states????
      
      Alan, you’re so full of it. I’m a SC resident permit holder and a former LEO. For SC residents, you have to be FINGERPRINTED, take an 8 hour course, take a final exam on SC law (graded) and shoot a firearms proficiency course (graded).
      
      Do you want to know one reason why states should NOT have automatic reciprocity with other states?
      
      Georgia. The state of GA doesn’t make you take ANY kind of class, shoot any kind of course, nothing…. Zilch!
      
      You pay your $80 and in a week or two, you have your CWP. This is the MAIN reason why South Carolina does NOT honor Georgia’s issued CWP’s,
    - Pitgnarf
      
      You have a permit for life, first, at the discretion of local law enforcement, whom can reject an application for no reason whatsoever, also the permit is subject to the political whim and fancy of the times in state and local jurisdictions!
      NY’s gun restrictions are only designed to keep the most important citizens, (those whom are clear thinking law abiding potential threats to maintenance of the current power structure) from acceding to power, see prewar Nazi Germany and Stalins “citizen centered government”
      Isn’t it interesting that the most dangerous places in the US are those with the most draconian, completely ineffective, gun laws? So whom else other than the aforementioned citizens are these laws governing……the criminals???
      Gun laws in the US are clearly not the right of the states to regulate and anyone anywhere in the US should be able to purchase and carry based on Federal regs, not the drivel puked up by states like, NY, NJ, IL, MD, CA, MA, RI,!
      Safety and (un)common sense rules (most)already in place in federal law which should be the final word on the matter
    - reppoc
      
      everybody….everybody takes a fingerprint card! Where’d you come up with that BS?
    - Ed Cola
      
      I’m sure Drstneck knows about felons and mental problems, but I was allowed to own a gun in the 50’s at age 8. Crows were $2 apiece bounty from the farm consortium, the city encouraged us to shoot rats behind the city buildings along the river. My son can’t carry a paintball gun in bright orange into the woods now. The erosion of our rights is gaining speed. 14 Yrs Navy and 10 Army reserve. God save the USA.
      - Glock33
        
        To the Editor: Let me see if I have this correct. The
        following men supported a law-abiding citizen’s right to bear arms: Washington,
        Jefferson, Madison, Hamilton, et. al.
        
        The following did not and are pro gun-control experts:
        Hitler, Castro, Qaddafi, Idi Amin, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, MaoTse-Tung, Kim
        Jong-il, and, as of late, Obama and Urbaitis have sided with these illustrious
        fellows. Vietnam Era Vet and CCH permit holder. Mike Hastie,
        Brevard
    - csrpinecrest
      
      It is stupid of You to think only NY does fbi background check. In Florida your fingerprints are taken as well , either electronic at a police station or fbi office, or paper at a police station. Son of American Revolution ps second amendment is to protect ourselves from the government remember they had to throw one out
    - Jon
      
      “In some states, you can get a CCW just because the Sheriff has the hits for your sister!”
      
      Ummmm, nope. Too bad you just made that shit up. Literally. Every state requires fingerprints and an extensive background check as well as training to receive a CCW license.
      - cawpin
        
        I will agree that the CCW/sister statement was just dumb.
        
        However, don’t accuse somebody of making stuff up when you are, apparently, doing the same thing. Not all states require training classes to get a carry license.
      - WOP 2
        
        Jon–
        Vermont–no license required. Alaska the same. Pennsylvania only does a background check. No prints, no training required. In some counties in Pennsylvania, you can go to the head of the line if the county sherrif likes your sister (or maybe your sheep:) PA is shall issue. Sherrif must issue License to Carry Firearms or specific reason for denial within 45 calendar days. 20 bucks buys a 5 year License. Sounds wonderful, no? Its all bullshit. I have to pay 20 bucks to exercise my right under Article 1 Section 21 of the PA Constitution, which clearly says “The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.” And that language pre-dates the Second Amendment
      - Laurence Almand
        
        Then why doesn’t someone challenge the local sheriffs and put a stop to the political graft – which is what it is. No local legal entitiy can override the State laws, because of the state’s preemption laws.
      - WOP 2
        
        Laurence: There have been challenges, many of them successful. Butler County simply elected an honest Sherriff, for example. Beaver County and Allegheny County have a chance, on November 5th, to do the same. A member of our PAC has documented thousands of technical, if not criminal, abuses of the Commonwealth’s Firearms Pre-emption. Why no Sherriffs in jail? Look no further than Kathleen Kane, our Attorney General, who believes in selective enforcement of laws. Rep. Daryl Metcalfe is in the process of introducing impeachment against her. Bravo! I wish him well in his efforts.
      - Laurence Almand
        
        What good news! I too wish Rep. Metcalfe well in his effots to get rid of Kane. This “selective enforcement” of laws is becoming a national problem in regard to 1st and 2nd Amendment rights.
      - Laurence Almand
        
        Jon – FYI: Alaska allows anyone over 21 to carry concealed on foot without a permit. Vermont does not require any permit to carry concealed, let alone fingerprints or a background check.
    - DaSarge
      
      I disagree. I also lived in New York, down in the city and I was there for 36 years. As an Auxiliary Sergeant with the NYPD I was actually refused a Premises/Target Permit because “of the risk that I might (MIGHT) carry my gun concealed while on duty”. Now let’s get this straight; I’m an Auxiliary Police Supervisor, uniform, shield, ID and radio, and Peace Officer registration to go with the training (although that status is denied by the brass at 1 Police Plaza) and I can’t get a license for a handgun because some paranoid moron in the licensing bureau fears that I MIGHT, MAYBE, POSSIBLY carry concealed a handgun while in my uniform and on duty. Aux P/Os cannot carry on duty even if they are peace officers in their regular jobs with permission to pack on their job. But here in Idaho, my Enhanced Permit (renewed every 5 years) is accepted in 34 states now as a CCW permit. How many states accept your “license for life” from New York? I’ll save you the trouble: just 20 states that choose to recognize NY State’s permit. And they all accept every state’s permit. Even Idaho. New York’s permit system and the accompanying psycho-babble justifying it is just excuse-ology meant to hamstring as many people as can be forbidden from actually owning any firearms at all. Pap, I say. Oh, I agree about the mentally ill and very young children, but some felons, SOME (not all) should have their rights returned to them due to the non-violent nature of their crimes. My own brother is one. For 40 years he’s been forbidden from owning or possessing firearms or projectile weapons of any kind or variety due to a stupid thing he did of a completely non-violent nature when he was 19. There is little rhyme or reason to this “system”. It’s time all the 50 states and all of the territories and commonwealths started recognizing each others permits and licenses, just as the Constitution says we all have to do as per Article IV, section 1 is to “respect the public acts, records and judicial proceedings of every other state”. The Full Faith and Credit Clause is one of THE most important Articles of the Constitution because it sets the basic tone of the interrelationships between the “various states”. We ALL need to keep these things in mind. And come to Idaho; you’ll love it out here where the air is free and clear!!
    - jaustin2008
      
      Yeah because new York people are so collected. So you have yours for lifetime which is great but who says you can’t become mental or have a grudge. Nothing does. 2nd Amendment is our right. We don’t have many of them left. Carry on!
    - Ken Alan Draper
      
      I’m pretty sure most states require fingerprinting to get a CCW, even my state (Indiana) requires it for a handgun permit. & Indiana is pretty freedom minded in their gun laws.
    - CommonSense
      
      Blow me you New York poge – you effin New Yorkers are a scourge on Amerika.
    - Lee
      
      I agree about the felons but I had a CCP in Nebraska, I gave 10 digits plus left and right full hand prints as well as 2 passport sized photos. I also had a hazmat endorsement on my DL and I gave it all up when I moved to New Jersey. Most of the upper east coast is afraid of a honest citizen that has a firearm. What gets me is all states issue a DL to almost anyone, with that, that person can get a Smart car all the way up to a Ferrari! The DL is not garenteed by the Constitution but yet almost everyone has one. Just saying.
    - Omar
      
      Wrong. NY isn’t the only state that makes its due diligence in checking cwp’s. I’m in Florida and not only do they require fingerprints also a full background check and safety course. Get off the high horse pal.
    - JRJ21
      
      Yes it is Mr. Statist,it’s called the SECOND AMENDMENT,Ever hear of it?
    - ArcticWarrior
      
      You’re an idiot and exactly why New York is f*!ked up over gun control. There’s a reason why your state has a high crime rate. You jackasses think that if you take the guns out of people’s hands that crime will go away. HA!! All you did is create and foster a state full of victims. Now instead of the LAW abiding citizens being able to defend and fight back against the criminals, to include your f*!cked up Police forces, you have made a gun-free zone or as I like to call it a criminal playground. Does everybody have the right to bear arms? Yes. The Consitiution doesn’t say unless you’re blah blah blah. See the idea behind it was that if you have a criminal that’s convicted, he stays convicted and in jail. He serves his time or dies, which ever come first. As far as children go, it was a way of life and they were taught at an early age how to handle and shoot a weapon. Mine don’t even have a curiousity anymore. It is your responsibility as a parent to teach your children. I’m sure you’re going to spout off with some liberal hate BS and some untruth about some fact that doesn’t exist, so let me stop you right there. The fact of the matter is, the states, cities, towns with more guns in the hands of citizens, the less crime there is. I’ll spare you the other half since I am sure you’re smart enough to figure out what the opposite is.
    - granny
      
      They also do the fingerprint check in Michigan, doctors letter stating that we are of sound mind. However the ones that are criminals manage to get a gun without all that. Most of the police here (except in Dearborn, Michigan) are good guys & very nice to those that even stop you for a busted taillight or license plate loss of paid year. Thank got for those little slips of paper that state we are legal & paid our dues. Many thanks to those great police officers that are human beings & treat us with respect.
    - disqus_TN8DLwA6Mv
      
      Alan NY is absolutely ridiculous…I live in NY and have a full carry.
    - Scott
      
      Alan, Some of your points are valid… But the sheriff sister shit makes you sound like a idiot! Just saying.. Sheriff Washington state
    - WilliamDahl
      
      Perhaps you can show me exactly where in the 2nd Amendment that it prohibits ANYONE from owning or carrying a firearm? If you believe in the Constitution, you cannot justify infringing upon the 2nd Amendment rights of ANYONE, even former criminals.
      - Laurence Almand
        
        William – You are correct. The Constitution states plainly that THE PEOPLE have the right to bear arms. It does not name any groups, nor restrict any groups, nor does it give the states the power to enact laws infringing upon this basic right. Technically, any state law that infringes upon the right to bear arms, such as California’s or New York’s, is illegal and invalid.
    - Chris
      
      Well there are some discrepancies, Just because you have had your 2nd amendment rights suspended for conviction of a felony does not mean Forever on the contrary to popular debate. I can personally atest to this. Class A Felonies are Forever But Non Violent crimes, Non Controlled Substance and crimes NOT against a person are Not permanent dis qualifiers. RCW 9.41.040 (4). New York City, California in General , Chicago, and D.C. do not qualify in my mind as American Cities due to the delusional Anti 2nd Amendment non sense that goes on in these places. basically Commie Gun Grabbers. Oh and ALL those who believe that just because someone made a mistake in the Past should be permanently Shunned, You People need to grow up and realize some People can change and deserve a second chance. do not get me twisted, I have a little brother who absolutely does not need to have a gun but I myself have the utmost respect for firearms and MY right to own and carry one or Thirty if I so desire. Only God can Judge me Now.
      - cawpin
        
        Speaking of discrepancies…
        
        You start off with a true statement and then immediately make one that isn’t necessarily true.
        
        First, this depends completely on whether or not the crime was a federal or state offense. Second, if it was a state offense, it depends on in which state it occurred. Some states are very easy to get rights restored; others are not.
      - Chris
        
        This is true, I hate making a statement that is more or less open to interpretation. I have never actually dealt with any Federal Crimes only State but there are very specific guidelines and requirements which must be met in order to have your rights restored, but it is possible. I just get irritated when people chastise others for making mistakes in their past. not everyone is a career criminal who has a record nor should anyone assume so.
    - Robert Everman
      
      @AlanBuffaloNY You sir, are incorrect. Because of reciprocity issues I have 4 permits one from Florida, Nevada, Oregon, and Utah. That combination only allows me to carry in 36 states. I had to submit a separate “10-print fingerprint card” for a separate background check in each of those states when I applied. So no, you can’t get a CCW with just an ID, fake or otherwise.
    - Mr Phoenix
      
      Washington state is pretty thorough also!
    - DaSarge
      
      Regarding fake fingerprints, you are wrong. Regrettably. I just read in The Economist (know thy enemies) that an MD from the Dominican Republic was caught flying up here to provide a crucial medical service for the more genteel of his alleged countrymen; he was surgically altering their fingerprints for about $4500 a pop. Scary, right?
    - Mark
      
      Alan, I believe that NO ONE should be denied their right to posses or carry a firearm if they are otherwise free. If and individual has committed an offense that is so bad that he should not have a gun. Then this person should either be incarcerated permanently or removed from the gene pool. People commit crimes every day with objects other than firearms and have since the beginning of time. Its the people that need to be held responsible. But most of the rest of us in this country realize that New York residents are not nor have been free for some time.
    - Terry-Lisa LaForme
      
      I was raised around guns and have had and carried guns most of my life. I do agree that not everyone has the right to carry a firearm, I also agree that there should be a universal background check that would be good nationwide. The only people that are afraid of a background check in my opinion are those that wouldn’t pass one. A friend of mine in VA. had a stalker that was doing their best to ruin his wife’s life. When they finally got the cops to act on the situation they found out the person had been in the hospital for mental illness, had had several PFA’S filed against them but yet had a housefull of guns, both long guns and handguns. Perfect example of someone that had no business having firearms and a non efficient background check.
    - http://www.usacarry.com Damon
      
      Is your CCW Permit good in NYC?
    - lefty
      
      I,m from MN and am surprized thwhen you mention a ccw for life. Good for NY. Here we have to renew every 5 years, which I kind of understand, but we are also required to take the class again before we can renew, at $80.00 a po0p I feel that some greed got in there. the classes are just a repeat of the last class!!!
    - Wally Wallace
      
      cause some states have self serving , ignorant , politicians that don’t give a rats ass about the people of these United States, as long as they get paid either by the state or by some crooked scheme they cooked up for the good of big business with their hand behind their back and someone padding it with cash or material things!
    - Christine Kaplan
      
      That is utter bullshit.
    - tmaca
      
      FALSE!!! Most, in fact I believe all of them nowadays, run fingerprints through the FBI before issuing concealed carry permits. This has been the case since at least the late 1990s. NY, like many East Coast states (CT, DC, MA, MD, RI) just does not recognize permits from ANY other state, even ones that are as strict on checking as NY is. For example, CT, which is not recognized by NY, and also does not recognize NY, requires a permit from your local city police, who run the FBI fingerprint check, before you can even apply for a state permit. The 2 states I have permits in now, Utah and Nevada, run the prints, and Nevada requires passing an all day handgun course and an actual shooting test. NY just doesn’t like civilians having handguns (nor does CT). Northeast states, in general, just don’t like citizens to be armed. I NY I was literally laughed at in the early ’70s when I asked to apply for a permit at the Schenectady PD, and in CT 3 years later the city PD said not to bother applying, they wouldn’t approve it, and a year after that I was a city cop, working for that very same PD. There was obviously nothing wrong with me or my background. Then I went myself to the state HQ in Wallingford to get a state permit (In CT even a sworn law enforcement officer couldn’t legally carry outside his jurisdiction unless he had a state permit), and they said I didn’t have a good enough reason; I’d put “self defense” just to see what would happen, but they suddenly changed their mind when I showed them my badge and ID.
    - ed
      
      Pa also requires fingerprints, still no reciprocity.
    - NavyGunner
      
      Back in the day, convicted felons, mentally incompetent, and underage, were not considered citizens, merely residents. Citizens ALL have the right, it’s just being infringed in lots of places.
    - curleyman
      
      Wrong, I have had ccw permits in the folowing states: Fl, MO, AR, OH, GA….ALL ran 10 print finger print cards and did FBI back round as well as state backround…just FYI
    - Farmer John
      
      Sir Alan, You cannot obtain a concealed weapon (firearm) permit until the State Police have received a completed background check based on fingerprints. Where did you get information about “the Sheriff has hits for your sister”? That does not fly in Idaho where the statute is very specific as to requirements for a concealed permit. any statement such as yours is really out there and suggests that you might not qualify for a concealed carry permit.
    - John Tennant
      
      My sheriff had better NOT hit my sister! Other than that Alan, I’m on board with you….
    - DaSarge
      
      “Hots”, not “hits”. “Hots”. And only in upper New York State can you obtain a lifetime CCW Permit, or is it a”target/hunting” permit? In Idaho, I have a permit (the “Enhanced” CCW Permit) that only lasts for 5 years, but it’s good for concealed carry in 36 states! New York State is recognized in 29 states. And the only two states out here in the Northwestern US that do not recognize our permits are the only two states that recognize NO other state; they are California and Oregon. There are more states like mine, and New York has only recently received recognition for their permit from these other states. New York has been behind the eight ball for many years with these legal squabbles going on over there. And I say all these things as a native born New Yorker from Manhattan, aka New York County. The Original New York City. And having served there as an UNARMED Auxiliary Police Officer, I can tell you, Never Again. I’d rather move to one of the 5 states that now have Constitutional Carry. There’s one directly next door to you all over there; that’s Vermont. Since the days of the American Revolution, there has been no law concerning the carriage of any firearm, either openly or concealed; long gun or handgun. Maybe that is why Vermont is one of THE safest states in the Nation !!!
    - Rob Huckfeldt
      
      If the convicted or mentally ill you speak of are so dangerous, why are they not locked up? Quit greasing the ‘revolving door of justice’ with your policies and there won’t be a problem. By gun control logic, we should stop drunk drivers by restricting access to sober drivers. In a truly free country, those not infringing on the life, liberty, or property rights of another should not be restricted.
    - keith
      
      just found this map from a chl bud, guess the key word on your statement was MOST as could not see states not fingerprinting, here in TX we get fingerprinted and FBI check, no lifetime permit, states wants more money ever few years and to have you refresh with the course which is a good idea.
      - cawpin
        
        Don’t bother responding to Alan. He was totally wrong in his statement. I don’t know of any state that doesn’t take fingerprints for a permit/license.
    - Icorps1970
      
      My son, now 27 and a Marine combat vet, obtained his CCW when he was 18. Why should someone have to be 21? I was drafted shortly after my 20th birthday and only maneuvering by politicians prevented me going when I was 19. About 25,000 KIAs in Vietnam were 20 years old or less. So 21 is a stupid age limit. If a person has no felony record why should they they NOT be granted a CCW even if 18? How can the Gov’t say that an 18 year old cannot possess a handgun when they will ISSUE him a machine gun to blow peoples guts out in a combat zone? Along with handgrenades, Claymore mines and other tools of the trade. If someone is old enough to die in combat he is old enough to have full citizenship. Yet since Montana does not kow tow to some states onerous and arbitrary requirements I can’t carry in the state I was drafted from to go off to VN where I was carrying a belt-fed machinegun before I was 21. I smuggeld a LW Commander to VN in a shaving kit but my dad had to buy it for me. I was plenty old enough to die for my country but could not buy a handgun. Stupid. Especially when the law that prevents it is based on one of Hitlers firearms laws…
    - Ed
      
      It would be interesting to hear where you got your incorrect information. It’s called the “Bill of RIghts” not the “Bill of What New Yorkers Disagree With”.
    - Jim Th
      
      Martha Stewart, Scooter Libby, Duke Cunningham, G Gordon Liddy…none of them are to be trusted with a firearm. Why such a knee jerk reaction to “felons”. Most people alive have done something that could be charged as a felony. Get a grip dude.
    - larry1355
      
      I had to do a finger print check for my Florida permit and again here in Arizona when I moved here to get my permit here. I don’t know many states that don’t check finger prints.
    - bobc
      
      in Missouri we have a class, fingerprint and background check for ccw.
    - Bobby John
      
      that same sheriff is also your cousin…. and maybe your uncle, its hard to say….
    - Chad H.
      
      AlanBuffaloNY, what part of the 2nd Amendment is confusing to you? The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. If a felon has served his sentence. He should be repatriated with all his rights. If he continues committing crimes, or was convicted of violent crimes, make him a felon for life. We shouldn’t have to apply and ask permission to exercise our rights.
  - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5JKBIAWLHRC264GPBJKVXKPAX4 Barnabas Sackett
    
    I’m wondering what a “phelony” is.
  - Gchrlove
    
    Its called REVENUE
  - Mhoup
    
    Your inability to spell makes the difference
  - Scottdoubledown
    
    maybe one reason not to honor your permit is that felonies is not spelled phelony’s
  - Lionsteps
    
    Probably because you are unable to spell the word felony.
  - Mike D
    
    because some states require less or more training in order to get the permit. i for one think that if california, NY and other states that do not want to honor any other states permits then why should those states honor theirs.
  - JD
    
    Dsrtneck, I agree with you, and even worse yet I work where I have to have a full background check by the DOJ, FBI, and TSA, but getting a CCW is another thing altogether, not to mention the stupid TSA needs me to be fingerprinted every 5 years to boot. LOL
  - guest
    
    What the hell are “phelonys?” If a state can trust you with a gun, one would think you would be able to spell.
  - bg
    
    the real reason i know you have no criminal background is because you spelled it “phelonys” with a “ph” rather than “felony” with a “f” how it would be spelled on court documents if you had any so you pass haha
  - LizzyD
    
    Not all states require ccw class training before issuing so many states will not honor those ccw permits that have not gone through a course first.
  - Mark
    
    The truth is that many states have very different requirements to obtain a concealed carry permit. Some states require a training certificate, some dont. Some require fingerprints taken and placed on file, some dont. Many states refuse reciprocity because some states require fewer hoops to jump thru to obtain one. Laws very widely from place to place for qualifying for a permit…..,
  - Larry Gargoyle Tactical
    
    ..It’s like this..first of all…it’s spelled, Felony, next think about it…the laws in each state differ from each other. Some slightly, others drastically. You really need to know these differences from one state to another. Maybe not just passing through, but if you are relocating..absolutely. An example is..The castle doctrine, some have some don’t, all are different. In NC you can NEVER use deadly force to protect property or animals period, in Texas, a neighbor can use deadly force to protect a neighbor’s property without the element of Immanent threat of death, serious bodily injury, or sexual assault. Although I strongly agree with Texas and believe the B and E rate would drop if we all that that, try that in NC and the good guy goes to jail, or at least gets charged. The list goes on. Larry
  - Hugh Jassol
    
    because you can’t spell FELONY. That’s why…
  - Ed
    
    Nothing is wrong with you wanting to dial 911. I will if the occasion arises when it’s time for the clean up.
  - Lee
    
    You know I kind of feel the same way, If you can get a DL and drive all 50 states a CCW should be the same way. If you go to court for something that requires you to give up some rights thusly losing your firearm rights so be it. But they should treat the CCW permit like a DL (don’t post holders in the newspaper or searchable on line). I am a ham operator also, and that is searchable (don’t even think about it 😉 )
  - http://mom2giqm.wordpress.com/ Anne-Marie
    
    Because each state is an autonomous nation state per the US Constitution. Despite what we’ve been told all of our lives, the US is not a “nation”, it is a Federal Union…a group of nation states for the common purposes of defense, security, and (later) finances…even though the Federal government has been usurping state’s rights since the 1790’s. That’s why laws vary from state to state. As inconvenient as it might seem, the more autonomy the better. It would be best if we were operating fully under state’s rights so that Floridians don’t have to conform to the idiocy of Californians and so forth.
  - robert perrotta
    
    In most states that are reciprocity, say Utah to Ohio. If you have a Utah permit, there is no law that state you must transfer your Utah permit. In fact you can carry on it until it expires and then renew it if you would like. Ohio attorney generals agreement clearly states that they will honor states with similar requirements, those of which have been entered into a reciprocity agreement, as their own. So moving from one recipotory to another is not that big of a deal.
    - cawpin
      
      That is incorrect. If you are issued a resident permit in Utah, and then move out of state, your Utah permit is no longer valid since you are no longer a resident. It is also your responsibility to keep your information, such as address, up to date and correct with the issuing authority.
      
      Further, to get a Utah non-resident permit now, you would first have to get one from your new home state, Ohio in your example.
      - robert perrotta
        
        Hmm, well when I called the Attorney Generals Office, he said my Florida Non Resident CCW was sufficient to carry under Ohio law, I just assumed my analogy was correct. Moving from one reciprocity state to another, so Utahs would not suffice ohios? Simply because of the law change there?
      - cawpin
        
        If your Florida non-resident permit is valid then, yes, it is ok in Ohio as long as they recognize Florida permits, specifically non-resident ones in your case.
        
        In your example of moving to another state, your situation is dependent on the laws of the original issuing state, Utah in your example, to determine if said permit is still valid.
  - mike
    
    if you cant spell felony, i wouldn’t give you a gun
  - don
    
    ass long ass you know what you are doing with that gun the world caint get you out of trouble you are on your own
  - Erica Pelz
    
    Background checks are not the same state to state. Some states use NICS and some just run a records search. The other much more likely problem is the training requirements differ widely from state to state..
    - Glock33
      
      Erica, correct. Why is there not some type of minimum standard, like a drivers license. If you had to insure your firearm like a car, the Insurance industry would fix it in a nanosec. Glock33
  - bob
    
    “phelonys” lol. The rest of your statement is no longer valid.
  - DaSarge
    
    Because not all states have the same requirements for a CCW.
  - IllinoisHostage
    
    fees
  - billyboi57
    
    I can’t cite every state but when I purchased my AR-15 the gunshop did my check with the ATF. However my carry permit comes from my county’s probate court. That is the reason why you can’t carry in all 50 states.
  - DAVE J
    
    Basically you need to know how to spell FELONY before you can carry in other states, kind of a NO BRAINER, huh?
  - fredawright3
    
    $ya no
  - Felony not phelony
    
    Maybe because you can’t spell.
  - Ruth
    
    That is because All States don’t require the same training to own a concealed weapon. Such as Georgia, they don’t even have a shooting class and the learning class of the law about having and carrying a firearm is only 3 hours long. When here in S.C, we have an 8 hour class and a shooting test. This is the reason by living on the Border of the two states that I have to unload my gun and properly place them a distance apart. Georgia lets anyone that can listen in a class have a permit, and that thought scares the crap out of me. And they wonder why Savannah has such a High Crime rate !
- Jersdoowop
  
  Right on Bob Jerry P
- http://www.facebook.com/mdh777 Michael Hook
  
  because some states hand them out like candy (GA) while others require you go through a class and some range time to learn how and when to shoot.
- Woody
  
  States’ rights. They have the right to control a lot of what happens within their borders. It was the original design of this country, and, in portion, the oppression led to the War Between the States. Why do you think states have individual governments? To govern themselves within the confines of the US and state constitutions. Individuality and freedom. at least that WAS the idea….everything is skewed and screwed now.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry-Baker/1313907968 Terry Baker
  
  Contact your congressman and senators and demand thay vote for hr822 or hr2900
- http://profile.yahoo.com/JXRAOQCPNMDFVFMLABAQY5ES4Y RichardC
  
  I disagree because i was told a blind man in a wheel chair was issued a permit in one state. a person I am know has to take meds to keep his anger under control. before he got his permit it took 6 cops to subdue him.
  It is a 2 way street if you get the permit in any other state they can get a permit in your state.
- Dave
  
  It can work either way… if some decided to ban, it’d be nice they have to fight that fight another 49 times. The states should have their right to control aspects of their state without being micromanaged by the federal government… however, it would be nice if the carry rules worked in all 50 states AND territories.
- Danonymous05
  
  We’re a country of ‘united states’, each having their own sovereignty, thus choosing their own laws within the confines of the U.S. Constitution.
- Guest
  
  I like your style of thinking bob. keep up the good work.
- Philip
  
  It’s one country but supposedly it’s all about states’ rights. Maybe it would be better if the federal government took complete control and took away the states’ control of their own gun laws? Otherwise why would one state have to conform to any other state?
  - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYKEPM2YQAVBAGNRTN23PSJYJU WOP2
    
    Philip:
    Read your post. You are ASKING FOR MORE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? Name one thing other than the United States Armed Forces that they ever got involved with and then did not screw it up. Indeed, even the military is now getting a royal screwing, all in the name of balancing the budget. You cannot believe this bullshit. Please say your post was a joke.
- Rpaugh2
  
  Kind of like gay marriage right Bob
  - Erajtem
    
    There is nothing gay about homosexuality/sodomy!
- CW
  
  Please just be grateful you can carry
  
  CW from NJ
- Mike D
  
  in order to do that there would have to be a National regulation in regards to training. might not be a bad thing since I’ve seen a lot of idiots who pass the Texas CHL course
- hostilelifeform
  
  Or if you’re Obama, the other 56 states.
- William Rizzo
  
  Bob that law HR822 Passed in Congress, but the GOOD FRIEND of the NRA, Harry Reid, has shelved it in the Senate and never brought it up for a vote. By the way HR822 passed in Congress by a 3 to 1 vote.
  - dakems
    
    congress is made up of the house of representatives and the senate!!!!!!!the house passed it the senate led by harry has shelved it
  - WOP 2
    
    Rizzo–sarcasm noted. Considering Heller and McDonald, should National Right to Carry become law, how would the NRA scare the shit out its members for more money. Not Relevant Anymore is an impediment to resolving gun issues. They have no vested interest in true solutions, but rather in delaying progress. Note their huge board of directors, Pepe LePew’s obscene salary, and here in Pennsylvania, nearly 9 years of obstructing the vote on our Castle Doctrine (Act 10). I dumped NRA this year, after decades as a voting member. For a real treat, to to Heave-Ho Hohenwarter (John Hohenwarter is the unwelcome NRA liaison officer for Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, and I believe 5 other states). He is an arrogant ass, and the face of the NRA for us. When NRA called to ask me to renew, I told them, Heave Ho Hohenwarter and I’m back in. They never responded.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Nancy-Ward/100003609503460 Nancy Ward
  
  Amen.
- ltcurry
  
  I agree 100%
- Jeff
  
  AMEN Brother your right
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003300316146 Benyamin Tover
  
  Or in the 57 states that we have, according to O’dumbo.
- Justin
  
  The bill to pass that very act is being decided within the next year. Jan 1st of 2013 to be exact is weather it will pass or not.
- RRR
  
  States Rights…ever hear of it? I sure do not want the Federal Government telling me what to do and not to do…The States set the laws and the people run the states. The Feds are not needed nearly as much as they think…and it backfires on us if we go to the Feds to much…they will further impose their will.
- chuck
  
  I agree, thanks
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Russell-Bellagrego/100000085193299 Russell Bellagrego
  
  States rights , which we hold dearly ,not Federal law, is the controlling factor..
- MNMike
  
  I’m sorry Bob, but you have been misled. If we go back to the founding of our “nation”, we were comprised of 13 individual States. “State” in 18th century speak is a country. The US Constitution was NOT a document creating one nation, but a compact agreed on by 13 separate nations/countries creating a”union of States” for a few specific, enumerated functions (common defense, etc).
  No matter how convenient a national reciprocity act would be, always be careful what you wish for. Every time we allow the Feds to “help” us, we give them license to intervene when it is not in our best interest (federal gun laws restricting rights).
- Tommie
  
  Hay Bob, You are right on that, I agree with that for sure, If your a responsible person and safe with the pistol and obey all the laws, Safety is a must in the open or concealed carry, Its your right to carry if you got a clean record, There are a lot of persons who carry and shouldn’t, The state police in Michigan even say now that open carry is a legal activity all it takes is some idiot to ruin it for evryone God bless
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=655744678 Brad Manzenberger
  
  You are right, and the Constitution mandates it. That’s why your drivers license or marriage license are recognized when you cross state lines.
- niterdr45@yahoo.com
  
  I agree
- http://www.facebook.com/tom.calvano Tom Calvano
  
  According to the current “Idiot in Chief” that would be the remaining 56 states.
- http://www.facebook.com/steve.j.roth Steve Roth Jr
  
  We have the second amendment…we shouldnt have to have a ccw!
- Eric
  
  I agree, Bob. It is a “constitutional” right, and should be recognized by all. Not for each state to make its own choice, though. Every state collectively recognizes all the other ammendments in the Constitution, except the right to bear arms…hmmmmmmm…something strange to me about this one too.
- nopermitneeded
  
  I agree
- Ivan
  
  Thank you Bob. I think they should hear the regular Citizens like you and me.
- jose florida
  
  i agree….usa 1 permitt….
- Gort from Washington state.
  
  If all states were forced to honor all other states carry permits it would be violation of states rights. Ironic, if you’re for a less invasive Federal presence you can’t advocate federal mandates regarding state reciprocity on gun rights.
  - WOP 2
    
    Gort:
    Please take a look at the 10th Amendment. Just as my Pennsylvania driver’s license, and my marriage license issued by Pennsylvania are both good in all 50 states, so is my Pennsylvania License to Carry Firearms. So far as States Rights, I must be compliant with their laws if carrying a firearm. For example, in PA you have no duty to inform a police officer that you are armed. In Ohio, you have an “immediate and compelling duty” to do so. States rights win!
  - cawpin
    
    Incorrect. This has nothing to do with states’ rights, only individual rights. You can’t allow the states to not honor the constitution of the US.
- Caesar
  
  Amen!!! I have a unrestricted Permit from Syracuse NY. I am a Veteran and an American Citizen, Why do I have to jump through all these hoops because I moved South for God’sake? Is the 2nd AMENDMENT STILL VALID?
- maggie15228
  
  we still have states’ rights in this country
- Happyat6500Feet
  
  Bob, I don’t disagree with you, but its about MONEY! 36,000,000 Americans have weapons, and if 20% of those have concealed carry permits at an average of $25, the revenue generated by concealed carry permit holders in the USA is around $180M a year, do you think states want to give up their share of that revenue? Heck no!
- matt
  
  states rights… if a state does not want to honor a marrige license or carry license from another state it should have the right to do so. This is the United States. It is called that to state the sovereignty of each state.
- Dolly Ayne H
  
  I agree Bob. But look at the map. I am from Ohio also with a CCW . The surprise is Texas!
- D O SPRIGGS
  
  Amen
- Tama Paine
  
  This is the politicization of RKBA and a mechanism by which the anti-gun interests want to get around the Second Amendment: by balkanizing the right in just this way, state by state, making it confusing, difficult, and expensive for law-abiding citizens to exercise a constitutionally guaranteed natural right.
  
  In much of the current discussion about a new round of gun control, the speculation is that states will become more balkanized. I think it stinks; I am an American, not just a Pennsylvanian, Washingtonian, Utahn, Vermonter, etc. It also means I end up paying hundreds of dollars a year to multiple states effectively to be in a FEDERAL database that does no more than document that I am law abiding and have been all my life.
  
  I also believe that the Constitution is my carry permit, so I resent being required to have to license my carry anyway! I don’t have to have a permit to conceal my smartphone/iPad (First Amendment) or my PGP or keys or remote clicker for the car/garage (Fourth Amendment). And bad people do bad things with those technologies as well.
  
  In my experience, radical anti-gun people are a) clueless about firearms and b) mentally immature: they have rejected mature tool use and adult self sufficiency in favor of…I’m not even sure what. I’ve never understood the projection that anti-RKBA/2A people have. BTW, I’m a liberal. My bigger concern is the POWERFUL anti-gun interests, and how they play on anti-gun liberals and make them dance like puppets.
- http://twitter.com/nNeufeld Nic Neufeld
  
  I would be inclined to agree with you…however because of our federal form of government, states have a certain amount (not enough, I would argue) of sovereignty. This is extremely important for our society. I would, however, like to see something like a coalition formed between a large number of states setting forth standards and creating a unified permitting system.
- http://www.facebook.com/marie.forney.7 Marie Forney
  
  I agree.
- http://www.facebook.com/rod.dehoff Rod DeHoff
  
  Amen
- Frank
  
  A HUGE part of the constitution allows the states to operate as they wish (As it should be) States rights!
- jerryhulick
  
  Sorry Bob but that 57 states. Apparently you failed the class at Bambi univ. hahha
- upstate.sc.ed
  
  Bob, I agree if you have a permit in one state you should be able to carry in any state. I think one problem is no consistency in the requirements. And the other is that many states have ‘permits’. A permit is only something to give you permission to do something you could not normally do – Ex: If I owned 100 acres of land and it was posted for no hunting / trespassing, but I give you a permit to hunt there. I
  
  As drivers we have a license and can drive in any state. I suspect drivers test are pretty much the same in all states too.
  I hope you voted Republican as they have tried to pass a bill to let a CWP holder carry in all states that allow CWPs – not Illinois.
  
  Dems want it to be as inconsistent and hard as possible.
- dbw1977
  
  States rights. I know what you mean, but its just one more thing under Federal control if we say it should be legal everywhere. What would happen is it would be illegal everywhere.
- arcsinice
  
  Sounds nice but there’s a not so little thing called the Bill of Rights (you remember the Bill of Rights, don’t you?) and you need to begin with the Tenth Amendment and understand what that means for starters.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=647206699 Jeni Merritt Watkins
  
  I could not agree more!
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1099232362 Cheryl Michels
  
  I agree with you Bob, I am in SC and have my permit to carry and conceal. My son live’s in PA and I can’t take my gun with me when I go to visit. he has 3 ache’s and love’s to shoot on his property. I would love to practice with mine but can’t.
- forrealcommonsense
  
  Second Amendment guarantees it, problem is we have the lawless in power who don’t believe in a Republic.
- http://www.facebook.com/bob.burnitt Bob Burnitt
  
  Absolutely, just like a driver’s license, Bob Burnitt Ellis County Texas
- Carlitos
  
  Gotta disagree. With your idea if a State makes a stupid law, the rest of the country needs to follow? nah.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=707270629 Jim Speed
  
  I agree .. kinda Bob.. The problem is, if it becomes a FEDERAL law then we have allowed them to LEGISLATE over our State’s Sovereignty. The second you take State’s rights to do as they see fit – you loose.
- George P. Burdell
  
  No, this should not be a federal law. It’s not in the constitution, it should be up to the state.
  - cawpin
    
    I can’t tell if you’re just trying to troll or what.
    
    The right to keep and bear arms isn’t in the constitution? Really?
- J.R.
  
  But, But, But Lord Zobama said there were 57 states like the varietys of Hunts ketchup, Ohhhhhh Lawd what went wrong
- J.R.
  
  Actually Constitutional carry, no fucking permit needed anywhere at any time, that is the law if you obey the Constution of the United States of America, other wise the law is by Traitors against this land
- Lorin Chane Partain
  
  I beg to differ, it is a Republic.
- Guest
  
  Even though I am a huge proponent of the 2nd Amendment, I disagree with you Bob. The reason I disagree is because each state has it’s own mandates for qualifying for a CCW. I am betting some states don’t even require people to take mandatory handgun safety and qualification courses. I want to know that a person can safely handle a firearm and can hit a target.
  Retired Sheriff’s Sgt.
  - cawpin
    
    “The reason I disagree is because each state has it’s own mandates for qualifying for a CCW. I am betting some states don’t even require people to take mandatory handgun safety and qualification courses.”
    
    Yes, each state having it’s own mandates is actually them breaking their agreement to follow the Constitution of the US. There is no qualification in the 2nd Amendment and each state has agreed to abide by this document. Yes, the states that don’t have these requirements are the ones that are following the Constitution.
    
    You seem to be under some delusion that it isn’t a right, but a privilege, and that is the biggest problem we face right now, people like you saying somebody shouldn’t be able to carry a firearm because you don’t approve of their qualifications.
  - WOP 2
    
    Hold on a second, Retired Sherriff. Are you saying only LEO’s know how to properly handle firearms? I live in Pennsylvania, where there is no mandatory training at all. We’re a shall issue State. Want to take a guess how many accidental shootings by License To Carry Firearms holders occurred last year in Pennsylvania? So far as my being able to handle a firearm safely, and hit a target, that’s a PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY that weighs heavy on me. I don’t have any requirement for training, but I have taken more classes than you can shake a stick at since 1969, and I still practice and pick up pointers. Reliance on the Nanny State to establish some arbitrary “requirement” is foolish. Trusting the citizenry to perforate the proper parasite if necessary, with proficiency, is what Freedom is all about.
- Dan
  
  I agree Bob. Talk to your lawmakers.
  Dan from Indiana
- BillyJoeJimBob
  
  Funny Bob I agree since I live in Indiana and travel to Ohio with the family often. But according to the map, I can’t bring my handgun with me, at least I can’t use it if I need to
- Mike
  
  The Constitution is not set up that way for a reason. It gives the states the ability to decide on certain matters. I do, however, feel that every state should give any US citizen the right to carry in that state if they meet reasonable requirements. I live in NJ and can carry in over 40 other states but my own! It sucks!!
- B. Mac
  
  TRUE…especially when it’s required to background check Federally. If I had a record in another state, I would not have received my permit in Fla..
  I had an in depth search performed. I imagine in todays crazy world, everybody gets an in depth search.
- Martin Morrison
  
  100% agree,all states should be the same
- joe from SC
  
  I agree! Why can’t all states have same requirements and recognize all other states. This is the United States of America!!!!!
- Ken Alan Draper
  
  then in that case a lot of laws that you wouldn’t like to live under would be the law in your state.
- Laurence Almand
  
  That is exactly what the Constitution says, but states like New York and California blatantly disobey it.
- mongohateswinter
  
  All 51 states, according to Obama…
- reddirtroads
  
  I respectfully disagree. The USA is a federation of states. I am a states rights guy. I don’t want people from states like Cali, Illinois or Minnesota writing firearm laws that impact me and that’s exactly what would happen with one size fits all. The current system is imperfect, but it’s better than what you’re proposing.
- robin Grace
  
  Bob, I am not being Flippant. But read the Dang Constitution . IT is statements like that , that keep people Ignorant of States Rights, and Sovereignty. Public Schools no longer teach the truth, so you have to get it on your own.
  Please, for you and your families sakes, do so.
- disqus_TN8DLwA6Mv
  
  You are correct Bob but the People’s Republic of New York says, “NO”
- Chris
  
  Full faith and credit what ever happened to that in the bill of rights !!!!!
  - Laurence Almand
    
    The Bill of Rights (and the entire Constitution) is being systematically dismantled and destroyed by the Demo/Leftists in the name of “national security” or some such nonsense.
- Bradley Hill
  
  I am with you Bob from Ohio….America is FULL of UN-Constitutional Commies.
- Afro Prepper
  
  All thought I agree with your point how come that did not and doesn’t apply to the integration of schools or the right to gay marriage?
  - cawpin
    
    It does. Who said it doesn’t?
- Laurence Almand
  
  The US Constitution commands “full faith and credit” to all states and the state’s regulations, such as marriage, driver’s licenses, etc. But the Socialist states of California, New Jersey, and New York don’t see it that way.
- Ron Bodda
  
  I agree with Bob, one country one cc permit should be good in all states that have a cc law.
- dudebuddypal
  
  That would be nice, but that’s not how the law works.
- J C
  
  Kind of like a drivers license
- Bruce
  
  Every state is allowed to have their own requirements. States with strict requirements are less likely to honor those with lax requirements.
  - cawpin
    
    Incorrect. You, along with most of the other mistaken people here, seem to be treating carrying a firearm like driving a car. Owning and carrying firearms is a guaranteed, protected right under the 2nd Amendment. You have no RIGHT to drive a car. That is a privilege given by the states.
- 1realamerican
  
  Your right but we shouldn’t need any permit.
- spikeman
  
  not think so , check , good for some not others …
- spikeman
  
  not think so , check , good for some not others …
- ronigee dawg
  
  “The Right to KEEP AND BEAR arms shall not be infringed” … I should not need a friggin permit in my state OR any other state … they don’t like it they can feel free to leave the country.
- equinoxranch
  
  Ignorance is obviously bliss Bob…………….. Do your ignorant Republican derriere a favor and study just a wee bit of U S history, starting with the Federalist Papers, later……, drum roll……., the Bill of Rights (which are attended to by the states not the totalitarian federal government), beginning with the 10th Amendment. This once great nation is still called the United STATES of America, get it?
  States Rights, Bob…. States Rights. And thank God for that (still)…………………………..
  - cawpin
    
    You seem to be ignoring the UNITED part of The United States. ALL states are bound by the Constitution you mentioned. That Constitution makes it plain and clear that the right to keep and bear arms applies to all of us. The states are bound to respect and obey that.
- Electrode*
  
  Agreed! We’re all in the same boat here, Yet all the states have different laws that contradict each other. This is one country! Yet the politicians in individual states think their states are a whole different country and not a part of the union. Geezus! what stupidity!
- Herman
  
  I think you’re right it should be like your drivers license
- mvrck1984
  
  This was in the works in congress for a while. So far all we have is the Protection of Firearms owners act that says that if you are passing through a state without stopping you may transport your firearm locked in the truck of your vehicle. However the second you stop over night in that state you are Illegal. Now we are attempting to say that a concealed carry in one state is good in all states regardless of that states desire. This will be hard to pass, doubt it will be finalized in my life time. Basically you will run into issues with stepping on the sovereignty of a state to determine the laws within its horders. If this gets passed quite a few blue states will be furious
  - cawpin
    
    “However the second you stop over night in that state you are Illegal. ”
    
    No, you’re not, as long as it is kept locked up.
- Ben Gagliardo
  
  just like drivers license’s..
- dskofstad
  
  This is one country made up of 50 sovereign states. That is why it is called “United States.”
  - cawpin
    
    The states are not sovereign. They are all bound by the US Constitution.
- darkhorseky
  
  LMAO , You mean like Gay Marriage? The Government is for all states to accept that!
  - cawpin
    
    As they should. That right is for everyone too.
- Sig_Sauer
  
  In January, we need to email our Representatives and Senators, demanding this new Congress to pass a National Reciprocity Bill. Better yet, pass a Constitutional Carry Bill, which allows all law-abiding citizens to carry any where. This bill should do away with the stupid idea of “gun-free” zones.
  - cawpin
    
    Again, this is the wrong argument. We already have Constitutional Carry. What we need to do is get the courts to rule on this and force the states to respect the Constitution which they all have accepted as the supreme law of the land.
    - Sig_Sauer
      
      Yes, I agree, we do have Constitutional Carry, but until that happens, it would be much simpler to pass a Constitutional Carry law. Keep in mind, our firearm rights were upheld in a five to four decision. Do you trust this Supreme Court?
Aligirl1006

I think that any state WI allows their concealed carry permit, should allow WI’s permit!
- StoutCortez
  
  That’s Alabama’s policy. Alabama honors all permits from states that honor Alabama’s.
Matt-i

You do not need a permit to carry a concealed weapon in Alaska if you can leagaly own a pistol. ie. 21 years old, no felony, no domestic violence, not mentaly defective. Then why doesen’t Alaska honor Vermont’s permit according to the above maps?
- StoutCortez
  
  Alaska can’t honor Vermont’s permit. Vermont doesn’t issue permits.
Clarencenewby2312

Just to be sure, I’m from nd and will be traveling to michigan. So all of the states that are blue will acknowledge my CFO?
Willybell52

Well my take on the issue is this… I have “several” state permit’s to carry concealed, and for the most part they cover me through most of my journey down to Florida from New York. I reside in New York so that’s my primary permit. I acquire a Florida permit because I have family there, so I go there often… Anyway, I receive the permit to find out that the permit will not cover me in Pennsylvania which is my neighboring state,and reason I am not a resident of Florida if I where would be good to go, and since I go there often to purchase cig’s and gas, cause I can’t afford it in my own home state… That’s a hole different rant… So now I have to acquired a Pennslyvania permit in order to remain in compilence with everyone’s insanity. The fact I can’t figure out is, “how” they can make criminal of law abiding citizen, when you obtain all of this required paperwork so you don’t have to be placed in the predicament, so because we choose to exercise a right given to us under the constitution jump the extra hoop’s and at the end of the day ” We the law abiding must pay the price on both sides of the issue.
- StoutCortez
  
  Florida’s permit, resident or nonresident, is good in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania does not discriminate between resident and nonresident, though somewhere that notion got started.
Liberi212

Let’s stop referring to them as weapons. They are firearms and/or guns. It is not until it is used for protection that it should be labeled as a ” weapon”. For example: a baseball bat is a tool used for sports. If it is used to hurt someone it has now become a weapon. Guns are used for hunting & shooting competiions, etc. Calling it a weapon right from the satrt may be one of the reasons why some people are anti-gun to begin with. It just makes all guns/firearms sound like they are bad or evil without people ever seeing the good or justifiable reasons of carrying for self defense purposes.
- Phillip
  
  Let’s call it what it is…..a weapon. There is nothing inherently bad about weapons.
  - StoutCortez
    
    I am a certified NRA instructor. With students, we are encouraged to use a term other than “weapon” (e.g., firearm, gun, pistol, revolver). But it’s not a big deal.
Papashew

I live in Illinois and have ccw permits from Florida and Utah. Just under the reciprocity map is a note that Wisconsin accepts Virginia non-resident permits only. However when I click on Utah non-resident, the map indicates that my Utah permit is valid in Wisconsin. I’m confused! I’ll be passing thru Wisconsin later this year and want to be sure I’m legal……either way.
- Anonymous
  
  This is a great question. When clicking Utah, non-resident, it shows Wisconsin as valid, however the notes of the article says “Wisconsin accepts Virginia Non-Resident Permits Only.” Please clarify. Don’t want people to get the wrong idea and accidentally break the law.
  - StoutCortez
    
    Your Utah permit is good in Wisconsin. Virginia is a special case, as nonresidents must meet stricter criteria to get a Virginia permit.
crankyplumber

does ayone remember a man , last name getz in ny?shot 3 people on subway defending himself . 2 died and other crippled . he was found inocent of all charges except he was given 6 months prpbation for carrying an illegal weapon
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYKEPM2YQAVBAGNRTN23PSJYJU WOP2
  
  Bernard Goetz, New York City subway, and I’m sorry, but too lazy too look on the internet for details of incarceration of Mr. Goetz. Multiple attackers.
  - StoutCortez
    
    At the time, the penalty for first-offense carrying without a permit in NYC was a $100 fine, no jail time. Goetz had to serve 6 months because he did something he was ACQUITTED of!!
Jiltedpatriot

Illionois…you suck… That is all.
GUNSMOAK

Maybe I do not understand. Isn’t the Constitution of the united States of America a document that curtails the power that WE have granted to the Federal government? Does not the 2nd Amendment to that Federal Constitution list a Right specifically that should NOT BE INFRINGED by any law promulgated by a Federal body?
Have not States reserved the power to regulate whatever they please w/in their State.
If your State does not accept my Driver License, I will simply drive around your State. That’s the way it is meant to be by the founding dreamers that so miraculously penned the dream that became our REPUBLIC. All one needs is to spend a few moments a day in reading to understand the precepts. I suggest the original Constitution, and a daily dose of Federalist Papers.

GUNSMOAK
- StoutCortez
  
  Right. But the anti-gun crowd has long argued that while nine amendments guarantee or enumerate the rights of the people, the Second Amendment guarantees a right to the government.
  
  Sound nuts? Yes, it IS nuts.
Rambler7074

I am a firm believer of the 2nd amendment, that unless you have been found unfit to qualify you are born as an American with that right, without a license fee and it should be any where in America and
or their territory, unless you have been found abusive to that right. Jim from Indiana
Sripantwsk

can I tranfer my CCW from Washington states to FL? because I have to move to FL and work there
Thank you
Peeved Steve

I see that IL is the only continental “Right Denied” State.
That’s just another “Obama”nation caused by politicians!!!
- US Taxpayer
  
  and what is stupid is the politicians in Chicago are allowed to carry a concealed weapon && are walked to & from their cars by an armed guard. Figure that garbage out. I wish Chicago would belong to another state, we Illinoisans are sick & tired of Chicago dictating what goes on in the rest of the state. They are one reason why this state is broke, most of our tax dollars go to Crook County.
JM

Permit or no permit, law or no law, gun control or no gun
control; think about it, to pass a law or require a permit is plain and simply
to control something or someone. Will someone tell me how any law maker can
prove that any law or required permit when it comes to guns will stop the bad
guy? The other day I saw a sign outside an indoor mall that read, “No Firearms Allowed
Inside”. Who is that an invitation for? If it instead had read, “All Store Venders
inside Are CCW Certified and Armed”. I,
as a shopper would have felt better, but I think the bad guy might reconsider. We
all have heard about the schools, fast food places, postal service, airplanes,
ships and even churches where mass killings have taken place; but extremely
rare, is it that anyone has tried it in a police station. Could it be because
people there have guns and will use them? I heard somewhere that DC has the
highest murder crime rate in the US, yet they have the strictest gun control
laws; if that is true or even close; how’s that working for them. I’m one of those who will not intentionally break the law. The concern I have is that one day, me, someone I love, or don’t even know will be injured or even killed; because I obeyed the law.
JM
Andy

I don’t get it…South Dakota recognizes Minn. resident permit but Minn. doesn’t recognize South Dakota resident permit. So why should have to get a non res. permit. Besides any state permit should be good in any F…ing state!!!!!
lefty

Any law abiding citizen may keep and bear arms in the United states, it the public carrying that requires a permit. Gun laws are far more liberal now than in 20 years ago. Obama did sign a bill allowing people to bring loaded guns in National parks.
- StoutCortez
  
  Not in NYC. Can’t even have one in your apartment unless it’s “registered” and you have a permit, which costs hundreds of dollars annually. Obviously, that’s unconstitutional, but New York politicians couldn’t care less. We need a SCOTUS decision.
Imsthuntmore

It is of my opinion that if those who live the alternative lifestyle different than mine that is fine with me. Love does not know sex or those of different race. This being said if those who want to have same sex marriage fine. Let it be recognized in every state of the union. My CCW permit then should be honored in every state as well. I will not “hate” or disagree with their alternative choice, so those folks should respect my choice to carry. The Constitution is plain and simple, it is written in black and white. There are no gray zones. Just like the signs on the side of the roadway. They speed limit is what is says it is no a mile an hour over. 65 is 65 m.p.h. No room for interpitation or “case law Presidence” crap. THose who wish to commit crime will think twice and wonder who is and who may not be in the company of their little friend on the hip or a purse. I would rather be judged by 12 of my peers than carried by 6 of my best friends. When seconds count the police are minutes away.
- Erajtem
  
  We have a Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Homosexual marriage is not an enumerated right in the Constitution.
Nelsonknew

Refusal to honor ANY CCW is illegal under U.S. Code, Title 18, Sections 241 and 242, any two persons in any state acting in accordance to violate those right and the privileges and immunities enjoyed by those rights are subject to a felony, punishable by 10 years in prison.
U.S. Code, Title 18, Section 241;
“If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or
intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession,
or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege
secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or
because of his having so exercised the same…. They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten
years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in
violation of this section”
U.S. Code, Title 18, Section 242;
“Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or
custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory,
Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights,
privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or
laws of the United States…. shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or
both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation
of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or
threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be
fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both;
and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this
section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap,
aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual
abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or
imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be
sentenced to death.”
Mike from Florida

I think states would save a lot of money if they just got rid of the separate ID system and charged the fees as an endorsement to drivers licenses. The accountants can divide the money and they should be recognized nationwide.
Joemmuncie

Bob I agree with you 100 percent but it’s not that way, and I for one say states like Ohio that won’t honor a state that honors theirs should loose that right. I’m from Indiana and with the black marked state of Illinois on are left and Ohio on the right who won’t return the same respect that we give them. Blocks us in from east to west. You CCW holders there in Ohio could help this problem by telling your local and state Government how you feel. Many of us Here in Indiana have tried and now are asking for are state to not honor the states that don’t us. And though this is against the 2nd Amendment which we feel so strongly about. we got to get are message across, So again maybe with the help of all you we can get this solved. If you notice Indiana is one state that honor’s across the map.

Thank you C.J. from Indiana
Sgtadaniels

in my opinion all the things listed are money makers for each state..make it standard rather it is the CCW permit or plumbing, electric, or teaching…it is the we hold you to a higher standard which is causing the problem, ensure that it is at that standard for all states….. and i think everyone should show that they can shoot a gun before they can receive a permit……
Traveling Armed

Wondering…. I have business that takes me from the east coast, through Illinois, to mid-west points beyond and back again. Just exactly what am I supposed to do with my firearm while in Illinois??
- Bob b
  
  Hide it well
  - StoutCortez
    
    Keep it unloaded and locked in a case in the trunk, and don’t spend the night in Illinois.
Jbell

I have a Utah non resident CCFP. I recently was relocated to the state of TX for work. Can I purchase a handgun in the state of TX without being a resident? Utah and TX is reciprocal.
Rob

This map does not give reciprocity if that’s what it’s supposed to do. For ND it shows nearly 40 states that accept a ND CWL. That is not even close to correct and ND has 2 different classes of licenses and it doesn’t even allow for that. Don’t take chances, find out from the states you visit and make sure you permit is good there.
Brentj7010

All states should honor only if you can show the ability to handle, fire safely and correctly use your weapon. If you cant then you dont need one because you are just as much a danger as a criminal.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Magerl/100000462855267 Nick Magerl

What I do not get is we all have a Constitution that should be our permit, yet we are letting our government shred it and have us begging for permission to be re-granted a little bit of our rights under their rules.
Barker6986

I have a non-resident ccw from Virginia. Does anyone know acceptable in Ohio?
- StoutCortez
  
  Yes, Ohio honors Virginia resident and nonresident permits.
strutinbanty

Barker6986, Yes,it is.
Thelawsccwdsm

It’s almost is. It’s sad they are charging people to get an Utah permit with most other individual permits when most of these other stars with regards to I think 6 already recognize most other states CCW permits. Just knowing the laws I. Those states should be the important part of any CCW course. I can’t wait till my training is over and my classes start. I refuse to cram Utah down my students throats for an extra 60 dollars here 10 for prints and 10 for pictures. Too many instructors are raping the people who wish to carry and responsibly carry for defense purposes only. Not to show off.. Go look at state cross reference on NRA site or any mapping CCW site. It’s so cross accepted as of January 2012 is not necessary to get 7 permits. Just learn that new York jersey California and illinois are no Carry states. Anyone in the Midwest email me I’m happy to teach you state laws and certify yo if you qualify. Yes all my student shoot unlike most states now especially Iowa. Email included in sub. Take care.
- Thelawccwdsm
  
  My iPad auto do messes with your posts sorry for the type os lol.. G,day
Benny B

How come it’s the states with the most crime,that have the most restrictive gun laws seems to me it should be the exact opposite food for thought
Guest

This is old now…HR 822..CHL reciprocity now federal.
Jed

I have a very simplr rule of thumb: If you won’t honor my CCW, I won’t visit your state. On the rare occasion I have to travel through a state that won’t honor my permit, (Illinois occosionally), I make sure my service tank in the back of the truck is full of fuel, and my thermos is topped off. You won’t get a penny of mine.
kevin

I have a WI. permit and was denided aMN. permit because my drivers license is over 2 years old. but is good till 2014. what the hell is up with that?
Pitttuny

i have a michigan ccpp and one from vergina non resedent
bob from michigan
does this cover me in most places
Powrduppa10

Planning a trip to Maine this july. How do I travel through New York ect with my ccp from Arkansas?
http://profile.yahoo.com/M5Q3CWMOOTCM7MSDEHEFFSURSE Joseph

The fact that you need a CCW to even purchase or posses a hand gun in NY is ridiculous. Depending on what county you live in it takes anywhere from 2 – 12 months to get your permit and that’s after you have already completed the following:
1. attended a safety class.
2. Had 3 non family member county residents fill out a form and had it notorized in order to vouch for your character.
3. Given a full set of finger prints,
4. Been cleared by the FBI
5. Been cleared by the State Mental Health Department
6. Paid a couple hundred dollars for the permit and safety class.
7. Purchased a firearm. (which most shops make you pay for in full even though your not permitted to even touch it or hold it in your hand prior to purchasing it! Of course you have to wait the 2 – 12 months for your permit to come in before you can pick it up from the store)
8. Had an interview with the Sherrifs department and provided a letter stating why you are applying for a pistol license.

It took 4 months when I applied for mine a few years ago. I know a few people that waited over a year to get their permits. Think about that for a minute, It takes all this time just to purchase a pistol or revolver whether you intend to carry it or not! Just to purchase a gun to keep in your home in order to protect your family. I don’t think thats what our founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the 2nd amendment.
shonsay efffyoo

the people can keep not the non peeples like niggers or non land owners or your mom and dad cuz YOO 4git tobvote r just by a fn gun and lode it to kill
- Danbfree
  
  WTF? Is that even English? All I could tell is you are an embarrassing racist pig who should just stay off the internet… wow.
GWDriver

Let’s see:

“A well regulated (controlled) militia (army),

Being neccesary (required) to the security of a FREE state,

The right of the people (each and every citizen) to keep and bear (own and carry) arms,

SHALL NOT (don’t even think of taking my weapons away from me) be infringed.”

Can you think of a better way for the people to assure a free state than by well controlling the military by being armed themselves??

And OH, YEAH, an out of control military/government COULD happen here. Just let the liberals have their way and it’s goodbye freedom.
- StoutCortez
  
  Good post, GWDriver, but two points: (1) the framers used the term “well regulated” to mean “running well” or “running properly,” like a well-regulated watch, and (2) they used the word “state” to mean “country” or “nation,” not one of the United States.
BIG M

in my new home state of West Virginia, I would say half of the adult male population carries concealed. the best part is you have no idea who does and who doesn’t, which is the whole idea. I moved here from Md. where crime was everywhere and one of the big new things was carjacking, if Md. allowed more permits maybe people would be a little less likely to try it,
mrstawarzsr

i would like to know why some states acknowledge the second amendments rights of american citizens including the right to carry and conceal a sidearm to their residents but deny the people of other states who legally have a valid permit to not enter that state and are immediatly considered automatic felons?you actually want crime as it fills the pockets of judges and lawyers with big cash ,you people have no hearts for the innocent who get robbed and raped and murdered all that blood is on your hands and you actually like it you boold sucking dirty bastards! i live in missouri and missouri reconises the state of new yorks carry and conceal permit, but new york refuses to reconise ours. what makes them better than us ? i was born and lived in ny for 33 years and unless i knew a congressman or senator there is no way to get a permit, back in the early 80’s i purchased an M1A or m-14 and recieved a letter from then sen.patrick moyanhan about how awful it was to own an assault weapon and he then bragged about his naval service and that only the marines handeled assault weapons the right way ,unfortunatly the senator did not do his homework and see that i graduated from parris island in 1973 and i was a combat infantry marine ! how did this guy get elected? and for you folks out there that didnt know about n y , from a child you are brainwashed that only police should have guns, and any one else that had one was immedialty marked as a criminal or were up to no good ! it wasent until i moved to the midwest that i found out the consitituion allowed me rights i thought i wasnt allowed to have back east, now i dont go anywhere without my weapon caused when your getting raped,robbed stabbed or murdered, by the time the police show up its too late !, and who ever did it is long gone! i say n y and other states like you if you dont accept ours we shouldnt accept yours ! another thing these heavely armed paid mercenarys at these G-6 summit meetings should not be armed with machine guns and weapons the citizens cannot be armed with ,your heavy armarment just proves the meetings are just as criminal as mafia meetings except probably worse as you protect the richest thiefs and legal criminals plotting crimes against the people of the united states and do it under a legal guise.
president kennedy warned us about you and your secret sociatys and clubs and you murdered him!
all your money wont save you when the master returns ,i m dying to see that day!
Code2medic

You havent experienced no rights till you live in the great state of IL
- Ducky2ky
  
  Thats and understatement
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYKEPM2YQAVBAGNRTN23PSJYJU WOP2

For Markmohrwstp: Your response to Cale is way out of line. If you can’t field strip your firearm, you can’t clean it. If its not clean, the possibility of it running poorly, or not at all, looms real close. Learn how to scrub your gun, and for crying out loud, do make certain its unloaded first.
Tenx4fun

Any state that issues a CWP should have the holder pass a class with a certified instructor. Then the rest of the states should honor that persons permit. I agree with Bob from Ohio. Guess some states havent come up to the 21st century
Guest

I just received my permit in NYS and Im glad they make it slightly difficult. It provents people from acquiring handguns because they are pissed off or in a bad place. I was required to take a NRA course by my county and my class was full of wingnuts. Most of them should not be able to use a handgun…..ever. I do believe it is our right but……my local judge decides if we are stable enough be trusted with them.
- Erajtem
  
  By your logic all journalists should be tested and licensed. Probably not a bad thing as people like Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Dan Rather, etc. would be kept off the airwaves because of their mental conditions.
Joe

Five Little Marbles

Five little marbles through a dirt bag’s head
Triple odd buck made sure he’s dead
Took his cans and cashed them in
War is over and we did win.

Went home and drank a glass of wine
D.A. called, said paperwork’s fine
Won’t even have to go to court
Crack heads think our street’s a fort.

Five little marbles through a meth-head’s head
Can’t remember just what he said
But my wine bottle pops when I pull the cork
I’ll bet his friends ran to New York.
Guest from OH

Ohio does not accept a Non-Resident Arizona permit. I am an OH resident with an AZ permit and they will not accept that! You should fix the map to reflect that.
- StoutCortez
  
  Many states, apparently including Ohio, require that residents get a permit. So if you live in Alabama and have an Arizona permit (nonresident, obviously), you’re good in Ohio. But if you live in Ohio, an Arizona permit won’t cover you. You have to have an Ohio permit, regardless of how many permits you have that Ohio honors.
  
  Wisconsin is another state that requires a Wisconsin permit for its residents.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYKEPM2YQAVBAGNRTN23PSJYJU WOP2

I’ve seen a lot of comments on this board calling for either State or Federally mandated training for those with a License to Carry. Are you kidding me? You WANT even more government intrusion into your life? Training yes. Mandatory training, NEVER! What the State gives can easily be taken away.
ronshema

for all the past 346 of you commenting….NONE of this would have been possible had it not been for the NRA starting it in Florida 20 years ago It was a 7 year battle to get the Florida legislature to pass Floridas CCW Law, the first in the nation.

And now we have the most anti gun president ever in office. and if he is relected kiss the 2nd Amendment goodby . For just over a year ago it was a 5 to 4 vote that it was a individual right, not a gvt right. Almost lost the 2nd Amendment by 1 vote. If obama gets to nominate 1 or 2 more left wing justices our Republic is over.

If any of you are not NRA members to help support our ONLY army that battles for our gun rights every day…shame on you

And you duck hunters…think your shotgun is safe….you are living in la la land.
Rob

I have a Florida non resident (and New York resident) license, I will be traveling through 2 states that don’t recognize Florida or New York’s license, what do I have to do? Contact the states involved, carry the pistol in a locked box, any info would be appreciated, thanks!
Kent

How can we get all states to compliy with other states so we can trvel from one state to another.
If u try to call the DOJ in another state I can’t get anybody to talk about it.
jaden

I live in Vermont, And recently purchased a Handgun. Its slightly unclear to me as far as what “carrying” means. I would like to bring my handgun to PA when i visit family and go to ranges there.

My questions are because Vermont does not require a permit, will that be an issue?
As long as its locked in a case is it considered Carrying?

Should i even bother?
- Jautomotive
  
  These are good questions
- Dave
  
  Carrying is what it implies, physically carrying. ‘Concealed Carry’ means that no one can see, and you don’t let anyone know, that you’re carrying. This means no outline… mild bulges are somewhat common and after you start concealed carrying you may notice a lot more people with similar bulges that could be firearms. If you’re license to concealed carry in your state, and go into Vermont you may continue to consealed carry in Vermont (is the short answer).
Areyouforreal2 Ww

God Bless Texas. Freedom to bear arms.
Wakendadb

does south carolina honor missouri concealed carry?
Jroop1120

Can a civilian that possess a CCW carry their weapon while traveling in a government vehicle?
Jay Jeffrey

What happens when I want to go to the gun show in St Louis and have to go thru the black Illinois?
- Bob
  
  Do like me.. don’t stop in Illinois.. stay in MO…
Czyeyes217

I am a woman traveling alone with a carry permit and I travel to Illinois and I am stopped and I let them know that I have a weapon what will happen to me and my weapon?
- J willson
  
  Depends, Southern Illinois is more understanding than up north. That being said, when you enter Illinois, best thing to do is lock it in it’s case, unloaded, separate from the ammo and where you can not physically access it(trunk). If you get stopped and you have done the above, don’t volunteer any info (and most especially if you HAVEN’T). You just might have that one AH in fifty that wants to keep IL safe from you. Fill up your tank in MO, eat a filling meal and make a beeline through and out of this backward state.
Tiroalblanco2001

Is time to change the law in Puerto Rico of concealed weapons permit.
Wnt124

I have a valid florida cwp which required fingeer prints and training . It was valid when I ws a Florida resident and after moving to South Carolina I renewed it as a non-resident cwp. It is good in most states but South Carolina will not honor it since it is non-resident and I have to take a new course and get new finger prints in South Carolina. This makes no sense since I have already fulfilled all the necessary requirments for a cwp.
Have2go

If all you people would stop complaining and do something about it, maybe some day you will be able to carry in any state concealed. HR822 has been sitting in congress since November. Write your Congress men and women. Tell them how you feel, and that you want this bill passed. They will not know unless you tell them how you feel. HR822 allows you to carry concealed nation wide.
- Nick
  
  HR 822 has been approved in Congress and now sitting and doing nothing in Senate. It probably will be defaced in Senate and Vetoed by Hussein.
  P.S. My Senator is Chuck Schumer, would you suggest me to wright him a letter? He uses all of our letters as toilet paper, trust me, I know, I’ve tried.
  - Jfultz Jfultz
    
    Write your letter to Chuck on extremely course sand paper
- Paul
  
  according to the constition you already have that right!
htp

is this correct? wa state res, it says Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin honor my permit?
Mark

What I get a carry license in PA but then move to ME (where there is apparent reciprocity according to this map)? Is my PA license good in ME until it expires even though I am no longer a PA resident?
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1399071757 Bill Shirk
  
  yes
SAM

If this territory ever becomes THE UNITED STATES, then I believe a citizen from one state will have
the same rights in the rest of the states,if our drivers licenses and our passports are accepted in all
the States,why not a CCW which is a State issued license?
In my opinion it is a disrespect from those States that don’t honor other States official documents.
Larry Rhude

All of you who are complaining about the “Right to Carry” issues should, if you have not already done so, read USA Carry’s piece on Senate bill S2188. It is a bill to require every state that has a right to carry provision, either by permit or not, to honor every other state’s permit to carry. It is the companion to the bill passed in the house that says just that.
Larry Rhude

I failed to mention the most important comment. Contact your senators and tell them how you feel about the right to carry and how that right has saved many lives and lowered most crime rates. Ask them to support S2188.
Hwhite

I was under the inpression that they changed the law if you have a CCDW in good standing that your permitt will be honored in all 50 states?
Mark from Wisconsin

How do you keep a plane from being high-jacked? Answer: Give everybody a gun when they get on and collect them when they get off. Archie Bunker for President!!!
Jbrown1366

I live in fla,im leaving for south carolina in the am ,im trying to figure out if I can carry through georgia and into south carolina, I do have a fla ccl.,as resident. From the looks of the map I can, am I correct
Tcb737

Illinois is a state with a lot of idiots in charge of their politics, with no empathy for their citizen’s right to carry and protect themselves (if they choose to do so) from violators who threaten a good and desent citizen of society to be able to live their lives peacefully without the threat of the numerous persons with criminal intent in society.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYKEPM2YQAVBAGNRTN23PSJYJU WOP2
  
  RKBA is indeed a States’ Rights issue, contrary to what the politicos in D.C. would tell you. Consequently, an individual state’s laws trump all others. You need to get on the website, and KNOW THE LAW in every State you’ll be travelling through. If you are going through South Carolina and Maryland, for example, your guns are O.K. in transit because under Federal law you are going to a State where it is lawful for you to carry, i.e. Kentucky. In both SC and MD, though, you need to stop, unload your gun, lock it and the ammo in separate containers not accessible to the drivers and passengers, and drive straight through.
  
  I guarantee you that the laws in every State you drive through are similar, but they are not the same, and the burden is on YOU to know the laws in every State you visit. This will remain the same even if HR 822 and S 2213 become the law of the land. So far as I can see, with the exception of Federal laws regarding interstate transportation of firearms, State law will always pre-empt the laws in the State that issued you your License to Carry Firearms, or CCW, or whatever name they give it.
  
  THIS MESSAGE WAS ACTUALLY FOR HOLONAI, TRAVELING TO KENTUCKY. When I visit relatives in Chicago, I’m well heeled. If I get caught, I guess I’m going to jail.
Holanoi

I will be travelling to KY and I would like to take one of my weapons with me for protection and I do not want to break any law or rules. Does anybody knows?
Holanoi

I have a permit from Florida; do the states that accept my permit have the same regulations? I will be travelling to KY and I would like to take one of my weapons with me for protection and I do not want to break any law or rules. Does anybody know?
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYKEPM2YQAVBAGNRTN23PSJYJU WOP2
  
  RKBA is indeed a States’ Rights issue, contrary to what the politicos in D.C. would tell you. Consequently, an individual state’s laws trump all others. You need to get on the website, and KNOW THE LAW in every State you’ll be travelling through. If you are going through South Carolina and Maryland, for example, your guns are O.K. in transit because under Federal law you are going to a State where it is lawful for you to carry, i.e. Kentucky. In both SC and MD, though, you need to stop, unload your gun, lock it and the ammo in separate containers not accessible to the drivers and passengers, and drive straight through.
  
  I guarantee you that the laws in every State you drive through are similar, but they are not the same, and the burden is on YOU to know the laws in every State you visit. This will remain the same even if HR 822 and S 2213 become the law of the land. So far as I can see, with the exception of Federal laws regarding interstate transportation of firearms, State law will always pre-empt the laws in the State that issued you your License to Carry Firearms, or CCW, or whatever name they give it
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYKEPM2YQAVBAGNRTN23PSJYJU WOP2

RKBA is indeed a States’ Rights issue, contrary to what the politicos in D.C. would tell you. Consequently, an individual state’s laws trump all others. You need to get on the website, and KNOW THE LAW in every State you’ll be travelling through. If you are going through South Carolina and Maryland, for example, your guns are O.K. in transit because under Federal law you are going to a State where it is lawful for you to carry, i.e. Kentucky. In both SC and MD, though, you need to stop, unload your gun, lock it and the ammo in separate containers not accessible to the drivers and passengers, and drive straight through.

I guarantee you that the laws in every State you drive through are similar, but they are not the same, and the burden is on YOU to know the laws in every State you visit. This will remain the same even if HR 822 and S 2213 become the law of the land. So far as I can see, with the exception of Federal laws regarding interstate transportation of firearms, State law will always pre-empt the laws in the State that issued you your License to Carry Firearms, or CCW, or whatever name they give it.
Ravenfire77

I am fortunate enough to live in Wyoming.
- Paul
  
  any idea how long it takes to get the utah permit?
  - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYKEPM2YQAVBAGNRTN23PSJYJU WOP2
    
    Mine took a total of about 3 weeks, but there is no guarantee your’s will be that quick. You MUST take a course of instruction from a Utah certified instructor, submit a fingerprint card, undergo an FBI and Utah background check, AND pass a short test at the end of the one day course. Utah is tough on offenders, too, and darned near anything can get your Utah “permit” to get yanked.
    
    One other thing to bear in mind, right to carry remains a State’s Rights issue. If you intend to use your Utah permit to travel to states that your home state has no reciprocity with, its your responsibility to know the laws in each state. You can get busted in Ohio by taking a loaded magazine into a gun free zone, as a loaded magazine in Ohio is considered a firearm. Hey–you can’t make that stuff up!
Cacoker

does the state of florida have an open carry law ?
Darlavreugdenhil

if you take a concealed weapon permit
out of class how long before application expires?
TripodXL

Folks, spell check is easy and free. Your and you’re are not the same words, they are homonyms, not synonyms. That goes for to, two and too, also, LOL if you understand why, snicker.
Gjp73

I called north carolina, I have a NY CCW. The map says there is reciprocity. Their state police told me I would be arrested if I carried in that state. This is incorrect on the map.
- JTEM
  
  You should get a second permit from either Florida, Texas, Arizona or Utah as NY’s reciprocity is very limited anyway.
guest

I am very Conservative myself, but having lived in Maine for years this isn’t always the liberal vs conservative issue the media would have you believe. Hell, Vermont is so liberal they have a socialist in Congress, yet the most liberal gun laws in country…..there virtually are no gun laws. We in Maine had to RINOs as Senators and everyone else used to be not just Democratic but over the top liberal. Thank fully that took a incredible change last election cycle. Yet Maine is a shall issue and open carry state. Don’t fall for the media crap that trys to frame arguement as liberal vs conservative on this specific issue. I would agree on city (liberal) verse country…..
Jimgmglobal

New York as well as a few other states do not reciprocate to Texas, which requires an FBI background with your ID validated by 10 finger print process which is done only in authorized finger print facility. However Texas recognizes New York and most of the other state permits. I am of the opinion a state should only reciprocate with those who do the same.
- JTEM
  
  I disagree as this is impinging still further on our Second Amendmentt rights. I get your point that it’s not fair that a Texan cannot carry in NY, but let’s not move away from the goal of allowing concealed carry in all states and jurisdictions. The anti-gunners would love to see Texas withdraw its permission for New Yorkers to carry in the largest contiguous state.
USMC0351Grunt

I have a 2nd Amendment RIGHT that shall not be infringed and I also wear the Eagle, Globe and Anchor just in case I need to further that issue with non-believers.
Pacjr64

I would humbly submit perceptions vary from person to person. Some people would believe that United States Sailors do not carry small arms and do not kill anyone in defense of human life however, U.S. Navy Seal, U.S. Navy Sea Bee’s are extremely proficient with firearms and all Sailors get some form of firearms training in basic training. It only takes one person to not follow the rules and makes all look bad or gives call to question whether something is necessary or not. I have a CCW not because I feel I need it but because I CAN. What is bothersom is… If you come into my home in the dead of night thru a window and I shoot you “I have to defend why I shot you”. I can be prosecuted if I did not make sure you were a threat to my life and family.
Gara56

California doesn’t accept permits from any States.
Beerarchy

I am pro-abortion, a father of three, a home owner, gun owner, and a pickup truck owner. I voted for Obama, protested against the World Bank and the WTO as a youngin, and listen to punk rock, anarchist, socialist, communist, music in the car with my kids. I support gay rights, the anti-racist action network, and local musicians. I have tattoos on my arms, a hammer an sickle on my shirt, and a Springfield XD9 on my hip. You don’t get much more liberal than me. Don’t try to take my gun from me. Don’t assume a person’s views can be summed up by any one party. The government works for the people when the people are united.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K33VC3RZ2TSDKPNYFBEPDPJWFE WhistlingElk

CCW should as basic as rights get…. if we have enough sense to make driving priviledges recognized State to State nation wide; why is it so hard to do the same with Right to Protect ones self..? I think it has to do with each state trying to figure out how they can profit from granting reciprocity more than anything else… example Washington does not recoginize Oregon it’s neighbor ; yet does regoconize other States with the same or less requirement for permit; why have they not recogonized all States that have equal qualification..?
Frank

So if I have a ccw permit say in Nebraska and the map shows the other states that honor Nebraska’s permits, do I have to apply to those states to carry there or is my Nebraska permit legal there as it is?
Bren

I have a CHL in TX. A friend and I are going on an extended vacation, driving (so we can see our beautiful country) from TX to Las Vegas and back via Grand Canyon, Sedona, Tucson… Now my problem is.. two women on the interstate with car trouble are like sitting ducks waiting on road side service. I want to carry my 9mm Glock for which I am trained and licensed in TX. I am allowed to carry it into all of the states we will be visiting except NV. What’s a lady to do? Huuummm! Change our vacation plans or travel across country unprotected just so we can visit this one state? And if I might add, hotels are probably more dangerous than the side of the interstates regardless of the state! Thanks for lending an ear!
Lineflyer

I have had a Concealed Carry Permit in 3 different states in the last 12 years since I lived in 3 different states and have always carried. Now I have to make a trip from Oklahoma to New York and I CANNOT CARRY since it would be illegal in New York. I hate to go to New York since it is such a cesspool, especially without my guns in a place where you really need to carry. No wonder that place has so much crime.
buck-o

I don’t think there should be a carry permit. Its just more money for the state and putting your personal I.D. in a data bank. The second amendment should be more than sufficient.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYKEPM2YQAVBAGNRTN23PSJYJU WOP2
  
  Precisely why Pennsylvania has introduced HB 2127, Constitutional Carry, which will put us on par with Alaska, Vermont, and a few other states that do not tax your right to keep and bear arms. After all, that’s all a CCW, Permit, License (depends on what state you’re in) is…a hidden tax.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Watson/100003615047821 Jim Watson
  
  I agree. $100.00 for concealed carry class. $25.00 for a Criminal background check if born before 1970. $90.00 to apply for permit. That is $215.00 that a law abiding citizen in North Carolina pays for the privilege to carry a concealed handgun. You would think that would ease the minds of folks who wet their pants at the sight of a handgun…
  - Rob Gonzalez
    
    In Texas it’s a total of $120 from CHL class to DPS application. You guys are getting ripped off.
    - Deez
      
      i paid i believe $50 in the state of washington <3
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Watson/100003615047821 Jim Watson
  
  I agree. $100.00 for concealed carry class. $25.00 for a Criminal background check if born before 1970. $90.00 to apply for permit. That is $215.00 that a law abiding citizen in North Carolina pays for the privilege to carry a concealed handgun. You would think that would ease the minds of folks who wet their pants at the sight of a handgun…
Dan Smith jr

I agree with Bob from Ohio that every state should honor a permit in your home state that all other 49 states should accept it. This si suppose to be the g gun reatest Nation to live in and for other states to say no you cant carry a gun in there state unless you live there. Dan from Michigan
oldtimer

Permit or no permit a criminal will carry a gun. I believe in a National Reciprocity. I don’t think it would matter to a criminal about state lines
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Watson/100003615047821 Jim Watson
  
  You would think that folks that will never like guns or gun owners might be able to understand that a criminal will carry a gun no matter what. It would seem to me since concealed carriers have to have classroom instruction by certified instructors that it would ease the minds of these fearful people.
  - TomN
    
    Not true. Some states are “Right to Carry” where no classroom instruction is required, only a CBC. My state of Indiana is one such.
    - Rob Gonzalez
      
      unfortunately
    - Tommy_
      
      The right is already in the constitution. Shouldn’t have to go to class, although I have. Everyone just needs to be held accountable for his actions.
  - mike
    
    I agree because in my state we have to take a safety course. In the state south of me ( I live right by state line ), they need nothing but money. My buddy that lives in the state south of me is an idiot about his gun and he is allowed to carry just like me. It’s easier there, but I respect the way my state has done it, so not just anyone can carry.
    - Tommy_
      
      So, like the left, and your state , you are judging who can carry and who cannot. Who lives and who dies in certain situations. I think this is called arrogance.
      - Zombiehiker
        
        Tommy you win an award for dumbest comment ever, congrats!
      - Al
        
        Zombiehiker,
        
        Just like your name, your idealogy is that of a moron or worse, a gutless liberal. Like the rest of you knuckleheaded meat heads, you don’t get that your government/police department, NOT ONLY can’t BUT will not protect you!!! You’ve eith been without oxigyn too long or were born bream dead.
        
        Al
      - Bear
        
        AL, iF YOU ARE GOING TO POST COMMENT’S PLEASE LEARN HOW TO SPELL FIRST.—-EITHER, IDEOLOGY , OXYGEN AND BRAIN
      - theTaxman
        
        Zombie you mean: Oxygen?
      - Artist
        
        Hate to admit it Zombiehiker but Tommy is right. Personally I would like to see some standards but who sets them?
      - Sarge
        
        I disagree with you, Zombiehiker. Tommy is right; it’s arrogance to decide for others whether or not they may carry a handgun for self-defense. The British do that, and those poor people have lost their rights as have their cousins the Australians, and all because they were “reasonable”. There is NO “reasonable” when one’s own civil rights are at stake. And the right to keep and bear arms is a civil right, endowed by our Creator upon us. And I will never give in or give up on that point. And I was born and raised in NY City, which has the toughest gun laws, as well as the most USELESS LAWS in this Nation. And “reasonableness” and the arrogance of those who have been permitted to rule us there have ended up just about denying us our rights. I live now in Idaho. One of the lowest personal crime rates in the nation, and also a Shall Issue” State. I can carry openly without any permit at all, any handgun I own, without registration of the weapon(s) and no permits needed. Go figure.
      - theTaxman
        
        I am second amendment left. Your judgment is flawed to say the least. Only with people with intact judgment should be allowed to carry, right or left. That is intelligence not arrogance.
      - Anonymouse
        
        If you re-read his statement above, it seems his criticism of his buddy is founded upon responsibility. A gun is only dangerous in the hands of a dangerous or careless person. If his buddy is trainable, he should be trained and allowed his right under the second amendment. If he is a liability to others, perhaps you’d want to be his neighbor.
  - Adventurer
    
    Indiana has a license to carry which requires no classroom instruction whatsoever. While I do have years of training, that may not assuage fears in the minds of the anti gun crowd. I like the National Reciprocity with maybe standardized gun training requirements.
    - Alonzo
      
      I’m also for National Reciprocity. Training is required for police, so we should be no different. The question is how much. NV has an 8 hour training requirement, but fewer states accept NV CCW than FL CCW…why. Just saying, Adventurer is right, let’s standardize the training.
  - cvmagreek
    
    You would also think that in order to even qualify to get the permit, you cannot have any felony or misdemeanor convictions or any domestic violence or a number of other things unlawful against you! In other words, you a law abiding citizen who wants a responsible right to your protection from criminals!!!!
- DennisRH
  
  The only problem with national reciprocity is involving the feds. THAT is never a good idea.
- Steve B.
  
  It’s purely a Constitutional issue. Article IV section I states ” Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. .” This is why you can drive in all states with your residential drivers license and why you don’t have to get married again when you move to another state. Simple as that.
  - caledurago
    
    Steve that is absolutly correct, you go after the violator. A drivers lisence is not a constitutional right, But like the Obama admin says the constitution is an outdated document. AsHoles Throw the bums out
- myglock33
  
  OK, it’s time for a little common sense here. You need a drivers licence, issued by your state after you receive proper training, etc. in order to operate a motor vehicle. No one complains about that because we all need a feeling of safety when on the road. We are adults. What I fail to understand is : criminals are very unlikely to go through the process (speaking of NC) of training, fingerprints, local and state law enforcement, FBI checks, your doctors ok, yet the law-abiding citizens go through this to receive a CC permit and are treated like children by the state. I personally am sick of hearing about women being abducted, raped, and murdered in broad daylight, in or out of their homes. Oft is said “well, she put up a good fight.” She puts up a good fight when she drops the criminal like a bad habit. I would recommend what my wife has, a Ruger LCR 357 Magnum. Mike
Sealy3

Please contact the administrator of the map and have the map updated.
Texas and West Virginia have reciprocity now.
- USACarry
  
  The maps have been updated.
Sal Vvv

Anyone else notice who’s “home state is the only “Right Denied” state???
Fasthill

Crazy country that they don’t want guns in the hands of honest people. I guess it is better for armed crooks to know you are not… Conceled permit in one state should work nation wide.
The_Fett

Effective July 1st, 2012, Mississippi will honor all states that issues permits. Reference :HB695

Please update site.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_327IKPSDTOOGILC5VZKXTVP6YE dan

o.k… now I am confused! I have an indiana permit. Can I carry it ( with just that permit), in Mi?
Sketchins

Where are the maps?
Pvvrvry

I will never force you to carry a weapon to protect your self, your family or your property. Do not force me not to be able to carry a weapon to protect my self, my family or my property!
Alf_17

Can’t seem to pull up map, what is wrong?
Catmandoo4u

I live in Illinois. The more corrupt the government = less freedom. Chicago is a cess pool except for couple communities. Even the good communities have their serial rapists and thill killers. However the mayor has plenty of security because his life is more valuable than the commoners.
Catmandoo4u

Also Chicago does not represent Illinois. Illinois is mostly hard working gun loving Americans. Chicago is a cess pool of liberials that want to tell you how to live….. and how to spend your money.
http://profile.yahoo.com/HHW6RQXA5ZOZ2PRLBJL2WYGZOY wilco_56

Looks like we will have to hold the line at Arizona, Nevada and Idaho if we are attacked by a Foreign power or Liberals.
Stanfordcollins290

I’m trying to research how I would travel from state to state having a Ga permit. I drive Tractor trailer and need to find which states require an unload,lock box ect.. The first thing I do know is Sea and River Ports forbid weapons. Several of the distribution centers I go to also band weapons.
Hoosierbeer

oldtimer is right…if you can get a permit in your home state what is the problem? If your own state cannot deny you…why should the rest? aA criminal has no bounds….
Rob Gonzalez

You people are ridiculous. Why is it that every conversation about guns online results in an argument? You also demonstrate your lack of education in your posts. Is it that people who are uneducated shouldn’t be allowed to carry? It sure appears that way from this conversation. It doesn’t bode well for your temperaments. None of you have enough control over your emotions or mouths to deserve to carry a gun. You are dangerous. Carrying a gun is not something to take lightly and even more, not something you guys should be arguing about. You should all be in agreement and united for this purpose. Instead you argue like schoolboys in a schoolyard. It is people like you that cause law makers to worry about allowing just anyone to carry a gun. I believe deep psychological testing should be implemented before people should be allowed to carry a gun … and that’s only because I just saw the worse testosterone driven behavior I think I have ever seen online. Why is it you folks need to prove your manhood by arguing about something that is just batshit crazy. Wake up people. You will be the cause of us losing our right to possess firearms because one day one of you will not be able to control your mouth and temper and will end up in prison for the rest of your life. Then you can argue with your cell mate while he is making you his bitch. Wake up!
Rob Gonzalez

Great, a place that is supposed to be so high on our constitutional rights censoring comments. Sounds like you can’t face the truth about your petty little arguments. Real good! I’ll make sure and spread the word.
- Rob Gonzalez
  
  Where are the latest comments, at the bottom?
Rob Gonzalez

is this place censoring comments?
Jmaryb

i do not believe this site us updated. Texas CHL holders may carry in New mexico. Why do they say they cant carry there on this map?
Puzzelz

So it costs a few bucks to get a CCH permit. Hell, you will go past that easily on gun costs ($500+ on a Glock 33 357 ), ammo costs, yearly range memberships, and the like. This aint a cheap pastime.
Kormi

It seems ridiculous to me that I can carry in 38 states except the one where my house has been broken into three time and my vehicle twice. California.
- Smallbshooter
  
  Thats why I moved 6 years ago after living there for 46 years. It kinda sucks but you got to do what you got to do
Acunn11

New Jersey says it may issue, but it is next to impossible to get a permit. About the only people who can get one are retired cops and judges..
anhonestcitizen

“A Free People should not only to be armed and disciplined, but have a sufficient supply of arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government!” George Washington….
Ajohnson

I have an Indiana carry permit and actively carry when I transport Bison from various states. As I have to travel thru Illinois on occassion what is the proper way to transport a handgun. I carry a 460 and a 45 in the event a animal would escape. Years ago we had a Bull breakout of a trailer and damaged a pickup, car and a couple of fences and our only alternative was to put it down. After my insurance company paid off claims I am required to maintain a way to kill any escaped animal should one get out during transport.
http://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/ Greg Camp

New Mexico now accepts carry licenses from Arkansas, according to the websites of the Departments of Public Safety for both states.
Dave

My wife woke me up one night saying “some one is in the hallway” Sure enough I heard him too and he was not even trying to be quiet. I jumped up and swung the bedroom door open and walked hard into the barrel of 12 guage shotgun jamed in to my chest.
I imediatly grabbed the barrel and forced it upward, I first tried to wrestle the gun off the intruder but then remembered what my dad had told me that he had learned in the war. that was that if I was ever in this kind of situation that I should go after the man not the weapon. The man will be defending the wepon with his life because if he knows that if you get it off him he is a dead man. So since he is defending it with his life, then it is an easy think to take;his life that is.
I held the barrel away from me and my wife with one hand as he had a death grip on it with both his hands, with my free hand I was able to beat him until he lost enough conciousness to stand, I then remembered the second thing he told me, that was if the man goes down go down with him, otherwise he will still have the gun and you will now be at the wrong end of it, stay closer than the barrel length.
So I did, and got the gun off him, I then put the gun in the hall behind me, and started fighting him and forcing him down the hallway to the stairs where I through him and he cleared all the steps and landed in a ball on the floor. unconcious I loaded him into the back of my truck and dropped him off at the police station. Then went home and back to bed.
This all took time, a good having a good handgun would have made much shorter work of it and I could have got back to bed sooner:)
- FreedomForever
  
  You did better than me, I wouldve been cleaning red crap off the walls for a week. Justice would have been served if he was in my house!
Deez

Anyone else notice the states with the highest crime rates have the strictest gun laws? Funny how that works
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F5DZOCHDHVY7SE226XYLN4SO4E CT

Please update the USA Carry map. As of March 26, 2012, New Mexico authorities terminated the agreement with Florida and no longer honor the Florida concealed permit.
Charliemac21

I live in Texas and I have a concealed hand gun license. I’m driving to Florida in June so according to the map I can carry through La,Ms,Al,is that correct?
- http://profile.yahoo.com/USZKNIYGVQYCDQ3WG3EKT5XTDQ the_real_cherokee_kid
  
  i always call the state police of the state i am travelling through first & try to get an email from the person who is telling me it is acceptable in that state. it might not be legally binding, but it shows that your intentions were good.
Cotlod22

National carry is needed. Crime doesnt take a break. These laws just make it harder for the honest guy just trying to protect himself/family/property.
Dorian Mode

I believe eveyone should have the right to defend themselves and people should be allowed to have firearms, But my question is why concealed ? Why not be proactive and Open Carry. If I know that someone has a .44 magnum, I’m less likely to fuck with him. Just a question? and yes I do have a concealed hand gun license.
- Warpath2198
  
  Being concealed doesn’t draw attention to yourself, pretty obvious.
  - Dorian Mode
    
    No it’s not obvious, walking around looking like a victim is obvious, being concealed, in my opinion just means you want to be a suprise bad ass. Well that dosen’t work all the time. Joe businessman in a suite easy target, Joe businessman in a suite with a glock on the side could mean a police officer ect. Carry but if you really for safer streets make it open. Take my advice after you pull that trigger there is no turning back and you better be sure your right
Bobtownsend

Ex-cop and retired special forces; Never saw a gun do anything to anyone. Besides the use of guns to hurt people, I have seen, and investigated the death of a lady from a lethel hammer (certain hammers should be outlawed, too dangerous) and another death from a flat tip screw-driver (any screw-driver over 4 inches also needs to be banned, or government controled)
Obviously, to those with a little thinking and reasoning ability there isn’t anything wrong with a hammer, much less a gun! Its the user. Banning Guns, or hammers, or screw-drivers would only limit those “deadly weapons” to crooks.
Jeff

I live in Illinois, the ONLY state in the USA to ban CCW. Also Illinois has the highest unemployment rate in the midwest, a deficit that makes the national debt look like nothing, retired politcians live like Donald Trump, some state legislators & Chicago Alderman accept campaign money from the most notorius street gangs around, tolerating high crime. Most suburban (meaning outside of C(r)ook County) & all downstate politicians want CCW, but the corruption in Chicago is so massive, unless somebody takes a bribe, it will be hard to get done. Some say move to Indiana or Wisconsin which is 20-30 minutes away depending on traffic. But if I stay, I will fight & I want those to look at this to fight w/ me to erase this humiliating stain off the USA.
Thevirg

Please make this iPad capable. This site is now unusable by me while I’m away from home.
WindshotX

I have a GA CWP and live currently in SC… I am soon to move to FL, and that CWP looks to be one of the best Iv seen so far.
Matt

I Live In OK and am unsure if I meet the Mental Health requirements I had 5 surgeries by the time I was 20 including an Broken back. I have never been in trouble with the law in any way except a speeding ticket but did have depression after my back surgery. I just want to be sure how I can make sure I will pass the background check because I am 28 now. I am no danger to myself or anyone My family has MANY guns that I shoot at target range including multiple handguns and Assault Rifles. I just do not want my past to get me denied for life!! How can I make sure I am in he clear before I apply. I know I am probably just worrying and there is only a slight chance but I want to be sure. whats my best coarse of action.
ChristianSooner4Life

This is Matt From Oklahoma I have the below comment that I made yesterday. I would also Like to mention that they put my on some medication after my back surgery that I had a Very BAD reaction to and it made me crazy and I dint know where I was or what I was doing and because of that I did threaten to take my life but the medication is very well documented as sometimes causing these types of side effects but this knowledge was not made Public as a high risk until a few years later. my Father is a doctor and he volunteers for multiple Fire,EMS and even Duncan, OK Police tactical squad as the medical director to be on seen in case something goes bad and someone get shot or hurt . I am no danger to anyone!! I understand all these crazy people that shoot up schools and Public Figures and cause problems to the public in general are Just that CRAZY and should never be anywhere near a gun!! I understand this is why there is a need for these stronger Mental background checks. I just want to make sure I am not going to get denied for Life because of Breaking my back and having crazy unfortunate and unforeseeable problems afterwards. Is there anything I can do before I apply like, Getting My mental health medical records records without raising any red flags or talking to a lawyer even though I am no criminal by any means. I just to make sure that I am in the clear and be sure 100%!! I am probably just worrying too much over nothing!! Please if you have any answers or suggestions Please let me know so I can take the right steps. I have been around guns my whole life an I am only now wanting to apply for CCL because I am afraid that if Obama gets re-elected that He may try to ban my rights or put super hard restrictions on even buying a Firearm. This is my second message I left another yesterday.Please help if you can Thanks So Much and God Bless!
Razortrix2002

Is utah honor Nevada CCW?
http://profile.yahoo.com/EJSCTNE22CED2TTF6SVNZKD3CU Tina

If the weapon is NOT concealed either loaded or unloaded or it IS concealed and unloaded, is it ok to carry the weapon in any state?
L49U

New York State does NOT grant non-residents concealed carry permits, the map is incorrect on that one.
Rwsmith250

Gun laws and gun control only apply to law abiding citizens. If a criminal wants to carry or buy/steal a gun he or she will.
Rwsmith250

Gun laws and gun control only apply to law abiding citizens. If a criminal wants to carry or buy/steal a gun he or she will.
Reddesertsand

Ok wheres Da map… been have issues seeing the map… I can get my specific state map but here is the national map where you can choose resident state and then what other non resident carry permits to see the overlap…

thanks
Drakes46

This all seems confusing I took the Utah concealed carry class in Indiana in April 2011 and was issued a permit to carry! I was told that would cover Indiana as well as a bunch of other states .I was stopped on a unrelated issue and told the Barney Fife cop I had a weapon and a license to carry ,he went to his car and was gone for a good 30 minutes and came back telling me I had to have a Indiana permit to carry a concealed weapon ! I was told by the Indiana instructor that the utah permit was good for Indiana so I never pursued an Indiana permit ,now what do I do?? Helppppp!!!!

drakes46@yahoo.com
- Hualosman
  
  Did he arrest you, or cite you, or do anything? If not, he knows he’s blowing smoke out his ass. Go google Indiana gun laws (looks like it’s Title 35, Article 47) and find the section on reciprocity with other states.
Adventure54

Here is my take on this the Supreme Court of the United States took on the case of what the forfounders of this county meant when they said that every citizen has the right to ( Bear Arms ) Those to the left were the individuals asking the court to rule on this long standing issue. It was a hope by desperate people looking to take rights from all in this country. This was not just about gun rights but rather an encroachment on all. The court stated it means what it says and we do have a right to bear arms.Unfortunately some states feel they do not have to abide by the court if it does not go thier way. Other states try to hold onto control of what the public does. The issue of concealed weapons is really fruitless a nut job or a crook will always find a way to get a gun and slaughter the innocent and the unarmed. As far as training after seeing the vidio of the DEA cop shooting his gun in a classroom so much for training.
Pat
Mduncan915

My Florida Driver License has National Reciprocity, why would my CCW permit not?
UniontownOne

We have very few regulations on alligator hunting here in Ohio. That’s the rub. You get screwed on alligators, we get screwed on guns.
Ken V.

I agree with Alonzo. We should all have the same adequate training.
- myglock33
  
  Ken & Alonzo, the nice thing about concealed carry is the bad guys don’t know who has a weapon. The training should be standardized much as driver training is. Each state may be a little different, but not much. Of course, the insurance industry has a hand in keeping up standards. We do not have such a backing, except the NRA, which takes up a great deal of time in protecting our rights. On the subject of Illinois, have a state(s) declare they will no longer recognize Illinois drivers licenses. That would be fixed by the people of illinois in a nanosec.
  - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYKEPM2YQAVBAGNRTN23PSJYJU WOP2
    
    So far as training, I believe its a matter of (gasp!) PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. The instant you encourage the Government, be it local, state, or Federal, to establish an approved training course, you create another layer of the nanny state. I like what Pennsylvania, my home state, does. You apply, you get your License to Carry a Firearm, and you carry. There is an expectation that you will get as much training as you can afford. Indeed, PA is now considering HB 2176, Constitutional Carry, which would provide for any person not otherwise prohibited, the right to carry concealed without any interference from Harrisburg. I carry, I’m not only trained, but I practice, and no-one said I had to do so.
jerrykregle

I really wish whorehouse Harry would get the Concealed Weapon Permit reciprocity
bill through the senate.
once that passes and becomes law only 1 state Illinois you would not be able to carry
because they do not have ANY CWP at all
then you will see Bloomberg in NY and Governor Moonbeam in the PRC bring a federal
lawsuit

I have always taken an issue with this I your drivers license and your marriage certificate
is backed by the full faith and credit clause in the constitution WHY isn’t a constitutional right guaranteed too
I also believe your fishing and hunting license should have the same full faith and credit too
MJB

Didnt Texas recently pass a law that they would honor ALL states’ permits? What ever they did, I feel other states should follow. Its sounds simple enough. Im positive that making the existing laws work in favor of the law abiding citizens is SMARTER / faster / cheaper than creating MORE laws. My girlfriend is from Texas and has a CCP. I got my CCP in Iowa without classroom instruction because I am retired Army. THAT made sense to me. In my opinion, more criminals would think twice about robbing people if the possibility of them being armed were significantly increased, no matter what state you are in or from. What the anti-gun camp fails to understand is that a deterrent goes further in crime prevention than any law. I travel often and through many states. It would be nice to know that my 2nd Amendment right is honored everywhere I stop. I dont feel it should cost more to be honest in a different state.
- Cpt Bob
  
  I have friends who sometimes carry. From Alabama. All alabama requires is the payment of $50 every year. No classes! Talking to him is kinda scary. Didn’t know how to draw the gun. Didn’t know how to “ready” the gun. Had never fired the gun. He had fired another gun. Said he would shot to wound, in the arm or leg?? He has been re-educated to include time on the range. But it also explained to me why some states permits are not recognized by other states. I wouldn’t want those permit holders with a gun in my state either. The classes try to teach not only the law, but a little common sense. i.e. don’t shoot a bad guy (threatening you harm with a weapon) with a 44 mag using fmj rounds and people behind him. You’ll get them all.
Tim

In my state, I can only carry…wait…i live in illinois…we’re the ONE state that cant carry at all. Communistic bastards.
BR

The export function sucks – even with pop-up blocking disabled – this site needs development help…
Seth

I’m confused. The note under the map says that Wisconsin only accepts Virginia non resident permits. Does that mean if you’re a Virginia resident they don’t take it, but if you’re a resident of another state using Virginia’s for additional reciprocity, they will? If so that sounds ridiculous.
Legal-Eagle

I am suprised that people & attornies have not sued states tht have denied them their constitutional right to bear arms. A state law does not supersede a constitutional or federal law. Where are all the attornies that want to make a lot of money? A civil right(s) violation by the government starts at 500M and only goes up from there! Throw in governmental abuse of power and the sky is the limit. Don’t forget to file civil suits against the people who aided in the denial of rights. Take their house, bank account(s), car(s) jet ski, retirement account, kids colledge fund and don’t forget to attach their wages for the rest of their life to satisfy the judgement. Taking everything a person or State owns will be a very big lesson for the people of the US to only elect government officials that abide by the constitution and who will not to overstep their boundries and power or suffer the consequence of a bankrupt state or local government.
- myglock33
  
  Legal-eagle, Yup, I just noticed that someone had a lawsuit and won, I believe, in the state of Maryland. So, it can be done. I live in NC so no problems here. I agree wholeheartedly, but not being a legal person myself, I would not know how to start this process.
Old Marine

I agree that there should be guidelines for concealed carry, not to exclude a person from carring but to help protect them from themselves by making sure that they at least have the basic knowledge on how to use a firearm. Too many times guns meant to protect end up with the opposite results due to just plain inexperience.
USMC 0151/5831

I signed my life and privacy away years ago when I held up my right and vowed to protect against all enemies foreign or domestic. It was not possible then, and I’m sure it is probably the same now for a recruit to pass boot camp without being able to qualify on the range. This means that I, just as every other military member that passed boot camp has had more weapons training than the average American. Why should I need a pass a civilian class to receive my CCP/CCW? It is possible to get a fake ID and I am sure a fake DD214 as well. Just as you can’t get fake finger prints, you can’t get a fake verified military record. All the state agency would need to do is contact the appropriate records division of whichever military branch and verify that the person that is applying was enlisted and received a discharge that was not dishonorable or for mental health reasons. IMO, the civilian class is a pocket lining racket instituted by those that we are supposed to trust. Even if there isn’t a national database of permit holders, there should be a streamlined application process.
- WOP 2
  
  Dear Jarhead:
  Precisely! Even us Zoomies had to qualify with an M-16 from time to time. Some of us with an interest in arms shot combat shotgun, designated marksman rifle ( a .30-06 hunting rifle with a 4X scope), .38 revolvers, and a couple lucky dogs got to shoot the M-60. For my part, Training YES, and as much as you can get. MANDATORY training-never! As soon as the Government gets involved in training, you will have a small group of men making lots of money, probably piss poor training, and a complete Chinese fire drill.
  By the way–thanks for your service.
  WOP2–Vietnam 1973
Wolfpack Six

I have spent literally thousands of hours training with firearms, thousands of hours carrying and using firearms while in combat during military service or while working as a police officer and subsequently as a police chief. Yet, I’m deemed unworthy to carry a firearm in quite a few states as result of unreasonable assumptions thrust upon the state where I reside and am permitted to carry concealed. The states who have leaders who think firearms are too dangerous, won’t let me carry as I travel or work temporarily there. I just saw a news article on a 15 year old gang banger in Kanas City arrested with a .357 mag wheel gun and his two adult accomplices were each carrying semi-autos….none of these people had permits or proper training or justifiable reasons to have guns except for their drug trade activities. Folks, the genie is out and won’t go back into the magic bottle. I’m not real fond of arming the whole dang population, but I am supportive of arming the well trained, highly reasoning folks who can demonstrate the proficiency of responsibility that accompanies possessing firearms. We are required to get driver licenses for a reason and that same logic applies equally to firearms. I am fully qualified to drive in all 50 states by virtue of demonstrated proficiency yet denied constitutionally guaranteed rights in other states. AG Holder and his gang of anti-freedom jackbooters need to go away and a reasonable dialogue needs to occur that contains not only common sense but respects the constitution. The issues are complex and I understand the many sides of the problem. Modern society should not engender the romanticized and inaccurate ideals of the old west. However, we need to reach a reasonable, constitutional application of law that applies equally to all fifty states and the territorities.
2LTGabs

I have an Oklahoma conceal and carry permit. It is honored in Georgia so I can carry there too. Georgia if I’m not mistaken is an open carry state as well. So can I open carry in Georgia?
Justin

A Georgia permit is honored in Utah.

However, if I become a Utah resident, will I need to obtain their resident permit, or will my Georgia permit suffice until its expiration?
troy

I have a resident CFP from PA and moving to UT. This site says that UT will honor it but the UT site says it does not. What should I do or who can tell me the right answer
NickNac N

Like they say “a country under arms is a polite country”!
pia

we should have a National Reciprocity. We go through Glassroom instructions and pass shooting saftey and fingerprinted. It should be nationwide. Its like driving to 48 lower countries instead of states. give me a break.
Sand

Know your facts or forget it, no big brother propoganda Please, without the slippery slope argument of any law or lack there of, what “specific actions” (laws, bans, ect.) have the President taken to credit such fear about my gun rights? No rants please, just a gun owning Dem that has all the rights needed to defend my family with access to more than ample firepower to do so. If this seems not true in your home without a howitzer or land mines, maybe a class could help you out. I remember the eight steady hold factors training in the army and didnt feel voilated at all after the class.
Henry

AS long as we keep the same crowd in DC we have right now, they will be not easement in gun laws for law abiding citizens,change has to start from the top,and the top don`t want change, unless forced upon them from below.
coach

i am a retired law enforcement officer if i have a permit from pa. am i entitled to transport to other states.
Mike

I live in West Virginia and have a concealed carry permit, however
Maryland, home of the NRA, will NOT issue me a carry permit.
J

I thought Oregon passed a reciprocity law not too long ago? Why doesn’t this map reflect that yet? Just not updated yet? Or am I mistaken about Oregon’s law?
NRA certified instructor

Heres a scenario for the people commenting that training shouldnt be mandatory, just hold people accountable for their actions. Say somebody thatsNEVER even held a gun much less fired one gets their CC license and a pistol. While trying to shoot a bankrobber-one of their wild/unaimed rounds nails you instead causing paralysis from the neck down. While that idiot is HELD ACCOUNTABLE with a couple years probation, you get to spend the REST of your life eating thru a straw and shitting your fucking pants. That person is coaching their kids tee ball practices while you…….fucking whistle,blink your eyes? Your no training idea sounds like the way to go! Your common sense and brilliant mind are indeed impressive sir!!!!!
- WOP 2
  
  I’m betting you live in a state that has mandatory training, and you get paid to instruct. Here’s a scenario for you, a real one. New York State makes it easy for residents to acquire a license to carry firearms, so long as they pass a NY state approved mandatory course of instruction. Currently, there are no approved instructors. Ergo, now its not so easy to get a license. Training YES. Mandatory training–never.
Rick

Illinois is the toughest completely denying the right to bear arms, yet take a look at their gun crime statistics.. lol the irony
Boston Boy

While I believe in national reciprocity, I have concerns if the federal government gets into issuing licenses, because what they give, they can take away! If all the states can agree on reciprocity (which is an impossibility) without federal input, then I’m all for it. But if it takes some kind of intervention from Congress, then I fear for our 2A rights, as we know that THEY always take away rights rather than expand them.
Strontium90

There is an old saying in law enforcement training that goes “we have all the rules and they have none” which means the criminals have no rules and will carry a gun, have carried for years, and will continue to carry illegally because nothing is illegal until you get caught.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000835714564 Pete Phillips

My drivers licence is good everywhere …so is my life insurance social security and so on. Pay State and Federal taxes … As I understand it the Fed taxes go to states all over the country .. not just here in NC . My CCW or CCH as it is by NC first off is redundant I have the Right to keep AND bear arms ( guns, knives, sharp pointy sticks, even rocks .)
Dutch

Not all the states WI has reciprocity with are listed whats up there should be 25 states.
Debardelaben

I Think I Might Understand How It Works. Just Gotta Keep In Touch With The Info.
Chuck

I can’t get the maps to open. I needed to check between Michigan and Wisconsin.
ltcurry

Its just the fact that the Leberl defactos in gov do not want people to be able to own and carry firearms. It limits there powers in there minds. Period. Look at Jersey, Illinois? Come on
ltcurry

Liberal Defactos that is in gov.
ltcurry

If you cant fight back, you cant say no to there insane bills, spending, taxes, etc. A controlled state is a sheep state.
ltcurry

I believe i have earned the right to carry my sidearm, i shoul dbe able to bring it anywhere in the Usa. Period. End of subject. But each state has its laws, and they change by the day, so much that officers do not even know what is legal, right, etc. So they put you in jail to sort it all out.
ltcurry

Its a shame the politics want to divide this map even further. What is the fear, Criminals have firearms, when they try againsy honet CCW people, they do not succed. that is not posted. Just gun violence by criminals. Its twisted media, Libs on the march, Anti this, Anti that. Now in Ny you cant buy a soda over 23 ounces?? whats next.
ltcurry

OOps i forgot the popcorn at movies, buters i Microwavable popcorn, Candy bars over a certain size, etc etc.
ralph

just wondering why the ever expanding federal government doesn’t assert it’s authority over one of the few things actually mentioned in the constitution and lets states usurp the power to restrict the 2nd amendment? Why has no one challenged the basic fact that states cant make laws that go against the constitution? Would a lawyer care to respond because I really am curious.
Gigi

Okay, call me a dummy but if I have a CCW from Michigan does that mean I can carry concealed on my body in all the States that come up in dark blue? Or does it mean I can carry only if the gun is locked up in a different lockbox than the ammo?
My journey starts in Michigan where I hold the permit… I will travel through Illinois where I know I need to lock it all up… on to Missouri, Okalahoma, Arkansas and Texas… I would very much appreciate someone vastwealth of knowledge regarding what I must do.
I am traveling with my daughter and really would like to know if I may carry on my person…
Brian

cant see any maps???WTF???
Slash

I am a new CCW holder. I would like to know which states you are allowed to carry your pistol in with a chambered round. If anyone could help me out with that info I would appreciate it. Thanks Charles
- WOP 2
  
  Charles:
  Please do not take this as a derogatory comment. A gun is considered to be loaded, in the case of a pistol, in practically 100% of the United States if a loaded magazine is inserted into the magazine well. Whether you have chambered a round is immaterial. This brings me to the more important question. Do you intend to carry a semi-automatic pistol without a live round in the chamber? If so, please attend a course of instruction specific to your firearm, get loads of practice, and carry with a round chambered. An empty chamber simply turns your semi-auto pistol into a brick. Some will say that it takes but a second to rack the slide. In a panic situation, you’ll point your blaster, pull the trigger, and when that sickening “click” instead of “boom” is heard, you’re already a dead man. Again, I’m not being critical, just offering some advice I’ve picked up in over 40 years of concealed and open carry.
  - Slash
    
    First I do not take offense at all, you answered my question, thank you. Secondly, I have decent knowledge of weapons but have never conceal carried before. I had just heard from a couple friends that you could not carry with one in the chamber in some states because it was illegal. I just purchased an FN 5.7 a couple of months ago and I plan on practicing with it extensively as soon as my ammo I ordered arrives. I also agree with you 100% that you should always have one in the chamber or your weapon is useless. Once again thank you for taking the time to respond to my question. I greatly appreciate it. You and yours stay safe. Charles
    
    ________________________________
Paul

does Iowa and Minnesota recognize Kansas CC
joe

could someone please explain what the scientologists were doing carrying handguns in nyc ?????? ny does not recognize any states permits????? just curious how mayor bloomburd didnt find out
Pathfinder 101

After reading some of the posts,some of you guys need a life. We are all Gun toting guys who love the USA. Cant we all get along?…. If not,Im taking my ball and going home.
jeremyfromiowa

Iowa updated their laws on Jan. 1, 2011 to a shall issue state and it no longer offers carry permits to non-residents, except for professional use. It would be nice if your site distinguished between a carry license for for professional use, and one for non-professional (private) use. Also Iowa is one permit, for all carry options, concealed or open carry.
VoteForMe

Enough about liberals and conservatives; they are both ass-clowns. They need to make a deal: Legalize concealed carry in all states in exchange for legalized marijuana in all states. Vote for me.
Rob

I’ve got a question, I just moved to the southern tip of nevada (Laughlin) from wa state, I was reading the requirements and all that jazz on the Las Vegas Metro Police website (alas laughlin is lumped in to the same county as las vegas)…my question is can I get an AZ non-resident concealed license, and carry in nevada? The website map thing says yes, but does anyone have experience with this? I just figured it might be easier to get a non-resident AZ card because I can throw a rock and hit arizona but it’d take me an hour and a half each way to drive to vegas to take the class do the paper work and pay out the nose to get a permit that AZ doesn’t even require it’s citizens to even have to carry lol.
Almoe

Vermont is not a shall issue state … Vermont is a “No permit Required” state
Jeff

This map needs to be updated. Missouri now honors ALL states, per the State Patrol I called tonight. I needed to know if they honored Wisconsin because of a trip I will be making. I am glad I called. You would think, as important as reciprocity is to us, that this map would be updated more frequently than “last update, April 2012″.
ontarget

This map is wrong. My CCW is issued to me by AZ and my last trip to NV I found out I can’t carry in NV. Someone needs to update this site
Sherra Scott

When I put my SC Resident permit into the map above it shows Mississippi doesn’t honor it, however, Mississippi is supposed to honor all resident permits from other states effective July 1.
FCM

So everyone is aware Georgia also requires ten finger prints and proof of United States citizenship and residence. This is required every five years. This said my permit does not allow me to carry in say N.Y. or S.C. I would like for someone to give me an answer as to the real reason why my permit is not good nation wide? The only reason I can think of is state politics and maybe revenue, permits are more than $100. here.
The state has also started requiring proof of citizenship before renewing or acquiring first time driver license. This will be a big pain in the rear for all but it will cut the dead weight off social programs in our state.

Carry on everyone, lets all work together to get a National Concealed Carry Permit it may be well worth $100. Just think politicians could start another worthless social program, sorry all had to get that one off my chest,
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MZQRUMAHKRP6Q4MZ6BKH6WJADE Jeff Barnsworth

Yeah, it figures the state Obozo is from is the only state in the union that won’t allow any concealed carry at all. Typical!
Allen Walbridge

This is like a reading an aggressive Dear Abby column. Hate our enemies and love the US.. Nam Vet.
Bill of Minnesota

Today’s news is 12 dead and many more wounded in a Colorado theater . Call 911 they take reports and body bags are filled . One legally trained armed permit holder may have changed that body count dramatically. Permit holders are not the bad guys out here . We need a universal reciprocity . Remember Clay Duke stopped by a legal gun holder . This speaks for its self .
- WOP 2
  
  I saw a brief comment that stated the theater complex was a gun free zone. (You may already know that means “Victim Disarmament Zone”) Do you think this fucking coward would have presented himself as a target in an area where guns were permitted and responsible gun ownership encouraged?
Nunya

Isn’t it interesting that the horrible state of Illinois, with its high violent crime rates, is the one state that DOESN’T allow its private Citizens to carry firearms?….Land of Lincoln my a$$
1madamerican1

what state is obama from
cashflo13

When is Minnesota and Kansas going to permit Iowa permit holders to carry in there states. The state of Iowa allows every state but Vermont and of course Illinois.
mjg

you need to update- florida is not longer recognized in new mexico,nevada .
mjg

forgot –also colorado accepts fla ccl
jaygoji

Just a note – the legal definition of “shall” is may or maybe.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V3WRPZTT6KL557UWENG3UQ36DM Froddoislost

Or how about this; I have a right to keep and bear arms. Not ‘bare’ arms. If you have to apply for a right, do you really have that right?

And what the heck gives our government the right to call certain arms ‘destructive devices’ and tell us we are not allowed?

Me, I have my CCW, but I carried, every day, for a long long time without it. I finally decided it wasn’t worth getting arrested over principle, but feel that is a moral failure on my part, more than anything.

Anyway; my two bits.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003300316146 Benyamin Tover

One issue is clear…that the states DO have variations in their criteria to carry. Some will state that it’s fair, some that it’s not. I would tend to agree with AlanBuffloNY in that their are some states which issue CCW to some just for having a pulse. C’mon folks, we know that many felons (unless their rights have been restored), should NOT be carrying a weapon, period. That’s up to the judge. And you invariably have to have a judge, or the local sheriff sign your permit. So some of you want Rufus from the ‘hood, who knocked off a liquor store to carry? I don’t think so. But the fool who did a non-violent crime MAY get his rights restored if the judge accepts his basis for restoration. Additionally, those who are mentally ill and can’t make good judgement calls shouldn’t have them either. Frankly, some of the complainers may fit into either category, so sorry Charlie, you shouldn’t be carrying, and netiher should your inbred cousins. We’re not making this the old West; and if we did, then lets bring back vigilante hanging so we can put your azz up in the nearest tree when you misuse your weapons.
One thing I believe we can all agree upon: make the standards for CCW permit the SAME all over this nation, and then allow those elible to carry in support of our 2nd Amendment. But the criteria for carrying must be consistent, and troublemakers should not be allowed to carry. Perhaps an IQ test would be in order, that’s clear up much of this nonsense.
U.S. Army retired,
29 years, Special Forces
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003300316146 Benyamin Tover
  
  And for those tough talkin’ pizzants who think they’re tough, I served in 3 wars and actually have had to use rifle, pistol and machine gun in combat. Most of you will NEVER draw your weapon in your life, and many too will not know what the hell you’re doing when the crap hits the rotating oscillator
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003300316146 Benyamin Tover

And for those tough talkin’ pizzants who think they’re tough, I served in 3 wars and actually have had to use rifle, pistol and machine gun in combat. Most of you will NEVER draw your weapon in your life, and many too will not know what the hell you’re doing when the crap hits the rotating oscillator.
- WOP 2
  
  Points all well taken, and thank you for your service. Mandatory training sucks, because in some states (Utah, for example), you’re never required to fire a shot, just pass a written test. Including military police service, I’ve drawn my weapon 5 times since 1969, never having to have fired a shot. Thanks to God for that. What you will do if faced with a lethal force encounter is precisely what you have trained yourself to do. Hesitation will get you killed. I practice frequently from different positions, with pistol, rifle and shotgun, and can honestly say that while I think I’m prepared, I should, as a responsible firearms owner and concealed carry person, practice even more. The gun doesn’t make you tough. Mental, physical, and repetitive training make you tough. Sometimes a broken nose or a busted jaw administered by a crushing right cross is as effective as a .45. I think, Ben, that’s what you’re saying, and I agree with you.
mpireone

In any case, it’s a privilege to even own firearms, let alone being a concealed carry license holder. Being from Hawaii, I am even more fortunate to have two CCL Utah and Texas. And no, Hawaii doesn’t have CCL but I do carry when I am in the States.
I sure would like to have more CCL just to have the flexibility to travel into more States.
http://www.TheJoyOfBeingaControlFreak.com/ Joyful LaRue

Very interesting map—note COLORADO, not honoring my permit to carry.
A law suit is in the works to sue the Colorado theater for NOT allowing law abiding citizens to be armed on their premises, therefore denying their customers the ability to protect themselves. The theater did not provide PROTECTION for its customers when they denied individuals the ability to protect themselves, as the 2nd Amendment proscribes. Hence, the theater is responsible to indeed, provide the PROTECTION they so cavalierly usurped from the individual theater-goers.
It’s time businesses are forced to understand the consequences of denying us our Constitutional Right to PROTECT ourselves—’cause if they, the business, is NOT willing to step up & provide PROTECTION, then they’d better let us carry to protect ourselves.
It’s one or the other & I’d trust my own ability to protect myself than the local movie theater usher!
- WOP 2
  
  In an official statement issued by Cinemark, they said that there are seen and unseen security, including armed plain-clothed personnel. I’m calling BULLSHIT on that one. They also said it is there official policy to ban guns. Worked real well in Colorado, didn’t it. So far as Cinemark, they can kiss my Dago ass. If I go to a theater, a nice dinner out, or even to a church service, I’m armed. Yeah, maybe I’ll get shot, and maybe even killed if I try to stop a nut case from shooting up a Victim Disarmament Zone, but it sure beats dying with your thumb up your ass and no way to protect yourself.
http://www.facebook.com/danny.green.9235 Danny Green

Bob, while I agree with your sentiment, I couldn’t disagree with you more. Over bearing federalist control like that is why this country has fallen apart into a socialist state. I like to say The Civil War turned “the United States” into “The United States” If your enthusiasm for right to carry has any basis on The Constituion at all, you have to understand that said document intended for almost all decisions affecting that state to be made by the state
radiogod1

A recent update from the Wisconsin Department of Justice:
“*West Virginia passed a new law effective 6/9/12 that requires a background check similar to Wisconsin for all new concealed carry licenses issued. Therefore, a West Virginia license ISSUED OR RENEWED AFTER 6/8/12 is recognized in Wisconsin. Previously issued West Virginia licenses are not.”
I’m not sure if West Virginia will now honor Wisconsin’s CCW permit. If anyone knows, please post. Thanks.
N. McClain

I find all this debate interesting. One point I never, ever see called out is that there is documented proof that the (then) Soviet Union seriously considered/ weighed the benefits of an offensive (invasion) on American soil during the Cold War but the perception that every American was strapped to the tooth was enough of a deterrent. The world is a hard place to live in. And there will always been issues of violence; unnecessary, unfortunate and tragic violence. Given this truth it is obvious at no time have we evolved to a place where the first law of nature (screw the Constitution) isn’t in play. If you don’t want weapons, to carry them. It’s really that simple. But someone will always want to carry a big stick. Written law is for the honest. And the honest only. Isn’t it conceivable in your (speaking to the deeply liberal) world that the very existence of the “unnecessary” weapons you hate so keeps some that we willingly trust just a bit more so in check?
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FOQLPAPFFB3CHVXSYHCFJDJ5JA labillyboy

the People’s Republik of Kalifornia has decided not to allow citizens to carry firearms unless they are either celebrities, cops or bad guys. Los Angeles allows less than 1000 citizens who are not LEO to have CCW permits. Of course all our criminal gang members carry every day. Los Angeles is therefore one of the more dangerous places in the country, right up there with Chicago. Many places are off-limits, even the police stay out.

The 2nd Amendment does provide me with the right to BEAR arms, but if I do it here it is at the risk of a long stay in a California jail, something I am not going to fool with as I have a family to protect and provide for. Even for those few with CCW’s, actually using a legally carried firearm would be risky, it is a arrest first, ask questions much later environment. The Police they hire here seem to like it this way.

The 2A is for providing American Citizens as a “Militia” to stand up to police or gov’t forces to stop tyrannical behavior. Therefore, in my mind it does provide for possession of military equivalent arms and quantities of ammunition sufficient to overcome an out of control gov’t. Funny that it doesn’t really provide for hunting which is what the gunphobe, gun banning politicians always talk about nor does it really talk about defending just the inside of one’s home. As free men, we are allowed to own and carry weapons to dissuade the state from taking our liberties and rights. Just not in the PRK.
Summit

Bob,
you miss a very important premis. that is, power should be kept within the states. We do not need the federal government mandating a blanket control over this issue. That being said, I believe that when a state restricts gun-rights of a law-abiding citizen (note: I said law-abiding) they are infringing on the 2nd ammemment
ranger

I am confused. I have a ccw permit issued in Iowa. I know live in Texas so is my ccw any good?
nidhi mistry

I DEFINATELY AGREE TO THIS ARCTICLE AND I AM PROUD OF HUMAN THOUGHTS…….
great
nidhi mistry

wow……..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bubbatrucker

I find it odd that Obama’s own state of Illinois is the only state that denies the right to bear arms. Please, tell me I’m not the only one who noticed this
snoman

I have Oregon, Washington and Utah Permits. I travel in multiple States, so I decided to check the map for my trip to California and Nevada. The Utah State info on Concealed carry in California states it is not honored in California. If I click on California, it states Utah is valid in California. Can someone tell me which is correct, short of calling them direct?
http://www.facebook.com/jeff.wilson.5851127 Jeff Wilson

md just went from may issue to shall issue
redrover

THIS WILL MEAN NOTHING IF THEY DECIDE TO TAKE OUR GUNS OR TRY TO THAT IS!! THERE IS JUST NO WAY THEY CAN TAKE OUR GUNS AS OBAMA WANTS TO DO WITHOUT ALL-HELL HAPPENING!!…WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROTECT OURSELVES AND THEY ARE GETTING TO WHERE THEY DO NOT WANT US TO PROTECT OURSELVES ANYMORE…SO THEY CAN CONTROL US! THE GOVERNMENT UNDER THE CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING WILL TAKE MOST IF NOT ALL OF OUR DECISION MAKING FROM US AND ONLY THE GOVERNMENT WILL HAVE THE SAY SO OVER ANYTHING; COMMUNISM IN OTHER WORDS AND IT HAS BEEN BEING IMPLIMENTED ON US OVER MANY YEARS ALREADY. IF WE DO NOT WANT IT TO CONTINUE WE HAVE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO TAKE BACK AMERICA WITHOUT A REVOLUTION…BECAUSE IF WE DO NOT DO SO PEACEFULLY, MARTIAL LAW WILL BECOME THE LAW OF THE GOVERNMENT ON US……IT IS SPREADING ALL OVER THE WORLD AND I WOULD SAY THOUGHS THAT HAVE LIVED UNDER IT WILL FIGHT TO PREVENT IT COMING BACK…SO NOT ONLY WILL THERE BE WARS WITH THE MUSLIMS, THERE WILL BE FIGHTS AGAINST SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISMM ALL OVER AGAIN!!! HOW CAN THEY BE SO STUPID AS TO NOT SEE THAT IT DOES NOT WORK AND IS INSANE TO IMPOSE SUCH ON PEOPLE WHO WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT THEM ON IT AND STAND FOR FREEDOM? HOW CAN AMERICAN GOVERNMENT BE SUCH EVIL FOR US AND THE WORLD…THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING AGAINST FOR AS LONG AS WE HAVE BEEN A COUNTRY; THAT AND FREEDOM!!!!
redrover

Guns are not the problem; it is the things that happen when sick people get a hold of them and that has always happened in all of time…so taking away our guns is just plain stupid and ignorant! Has the nation gone insane?????
concerned

Crime in Chicago is big business. Take a look at who is stopping the CCW from being passed. As usual it’s about the money! Do we need any more proof that when CCW is past that the crime rate drops dramatically.
concerned

Calm down folks! Just remember that all of those that are opposed to the whole gun thing will be kissing your boots when you save their family for them. sorry, got to go. Left that gas sucken tank running in my driveway!
Laura from Arkansas

Thank you for posting a very easy to understand map so that I may feel more comfortable traveling with my weapon.
Damian

according to the Washington State Attorney General Idaho does not accept Washington State CCW permits, so this map can by very misleading and get someone in a shitload of trouble.
FreedomForever

Liberalism is a disease in this country, thats why you have these stupid gun laws in California and so forth. Look at NY and IL and you will also find the work of these liberal communists that dont respect our constitution. I’m a conservative but I will vote Romney just to get the communist dictator out!! It doesnt matter what state I live in, I own guns and alot of them and nobody will dictate what I can or cannot have period! Heres some quotes from Thomas Jefferson that you should read and live by….
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” Thomas Jefferson.
“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” Thomas Jefferson.
“Most bad government has grown out of too much government.” Thomas Jefferson.
“The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the
second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become
the legalized version of the first.” Thomas Jefferson.
“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government
fears the people, there is liberty.” Thomas Jefferson.
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the
right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Thomas Jefferson.
And last but not least….. “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try
to take it. Thomas Jefferson.
Think about these quotes and you will discover why we need to take back our country from the tyrants of government. God Bless You All because we will need each other soon enough!
1911Kurt

I can’t believe that garbage, I havea ccwp in NY, UT,AND FL, and one of the only states I’m visiting this year is illinois bc of the stupid rights denied crap! Now am I allowed to travel withmy pistol and not carry concealed in that state or should I leave thepistol at home?
KENNETH BROZ

I served to keep our Country FREE
I am Voting to get our Country BACK
K. Broz 8/12
KEVIN

I LIVE IN WI AND WE HONER SEVERAL OTHER STATE CONCEAL CARRY PERMITS BUT THEY WILL NOT HONER OURS.WHATS UP WITH THAT?
FreedomForever

When you see a state like IL on the map shown in black, meaning the peoples right is denied then there is a huge problem here in the land of the free. If that one state is denied then you can better believe they will try for more in the future. Thomas Jefferson and Ronald Reagan both knew this to be true. The 2nd amendment was put in place for a reason but the criminals in DC dont care about our forefathers and our beliefs in this country. In fact our rights gets chipped away a little at a time everyday. The criminals in government want to make up their own constitution. Tyranny is at hand in this country, I hope your all ready when that day comes!
- Bob1701a
  
  Didn’t Reagan sign the “no new machine gun” law?
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Meyer/100000422151487 John Meyer
    
    No that was bill clinton
    - IOIOOIIOIO
      
      No, that was Reagan. The Hughes Amendment to the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act. The 1994 Crime Act had nothing to do to with machine guns.
  - Common Sense
    
    He must have. It happened in 86, and he was president then. Sure as hell couldn’t have been Clinton since he didn’t start his first term until 93. Not sure where John Meyer got that info.
- Gregg
  
  Learn before you jump on a band wagon… not even the constitution gives you the right for a CONCEALED weapon…
  - IndyMac
    
    Constitution gives a right to carry concealed or not concealed. Wake up and drink some coffee. Permits shouldn’t be needed by any state. 2nd Amendment is enough.
    - truckingU.S.A.
      
      i agree with that 110% GOOD POINT!!
    - tommie
      
      You are so right, I agree with you all the way on that, We should not need a fricken permit, I carry open every single day and if no one likes it i don’t give a rats ass,2nd amendment baby!!!!
      - steve
        
        tommie you are so right you nailed it!!!!!
    - tommie
      
      The way the crime is getting soon everyone will bear arms and it will be legal, You have the right to protect yourself s, This permit is what i mean CRAP, another way for a city to collect revenue and to violate your 2nd amendment rights, I been carrying since 1990 and never once been checked and i truck cross country you think for one minute i will be a statistic at a truck stop one night, I will protect myself and my wife to the end!!!!!! God bless America and the 2nd amendment!!! Never down your country we all good be worse!!!
  - http://www.facebook.com/heyward.hall Heyward Hall
    
    Amendment II. “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
    Cambridge American Dictionary (Online): The word “bear” means “to carry or bring something”.
    Seems simple to me. The Constitution gives the right to bear a weapon, and since its not specifically limited to any further conditions, then by law, it means to bear a weapon in any manner desired, open or concealed.
  - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=655744678 Brad Manzenberger
    
    The Constitution doesn’t give us any rights. It protects them from government.
    - lashlaro
      
      Precisely our constitution was designed to limit governmental powers and thereby protect our God given right to FREEDOM!
    - JC in AZ
      
      Correct.It was made to realize what is a god given right and what is a privilege. Carrying a firearm for protection is a god given right, a drivers license is a privilege.
  - IOIOOIIOIO
    
    Correct. To constitution explicitly prohibits the government from infringing your right to keep and bear arms, it does not give any rights. You have the right to carry a concealed weapon regardless of the constitution.
  - http://www.facebook.com/logan.ashworth.3 Logan Ashworth
    
    As passed by the Congress:
    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR Arms, shall not be infringed.
    As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:
    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR arms shall not be infringedACCORDING TO BILL OF RIGHTSDefinition of KEEPtransitive verb4 a: to retain in one’s possession or powerDefinition of BEARtransitive verb1 a: to move while holding up and supporting (something) b: to be equipped or furnished with (something) c: behave, conduct d: to have as a feature or characteristic e: to give as testimony f: to have as an identification g: to hold in the mind or emotions h: disseminate i: lead, escort j: render, give ACCORDING TO MERRIAM-WEBSTER.COM
    - bob
      
      We’re with you bro!
- Liz
  
  I agree. Is this the beginning of a most unfortunate trend. I realize that crime in IL is horrific but perhaps this is the reason. We have a right to have arms. But when people do not attempt to change things through the system the system will change them.
- StopitnowUS
  
  If permits are not issued in Illinois, then why are there so many shootings in Chicago? Their laws appear to only allow possession if used for hunting / sporting and the weapon is unloaded and in a secured case. Maybe the shooters are all returning from a hunting trip and encounter some kind of danger in a bad part of town (Obama’s ‘hood).
  - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LOM2XXVLQZHV7FGB7D3UAXG6FM David
    
    Shooting people in chicago is considered sport.
  - Common Sense
    
    The reason is that criminals participate in shootings, and criminals don’t abide by laws. Duhhh.
  - JC in AZ
    
    It seems you failed to consider that the criminals doing these shootings don’t care about permits and laws. I hope you don’t really believe that a “No Firearms allowed” sign truly stops evil-doers from bringing one into the restricted area…
  - StopitnowUS
    
    BTW, I was being sarcastic when I wrote this. Clearly the gun laws work against law abiding people. Only way to fix it is to severely increase the penalties for illegal gun possession. Start sending these thugs through the express lane on death row.
    - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1460070337 Maxwell Price
      
      You’re applying your mentality of prison being a negative thing, which gang bangers don’t. For people that choose a life of crime, it’s like membership to any club… you have to earn your stripes to be taken seriously. Prison is like doing a tour overseas and the gangs cross that border of prison walls like water slipping through fingers. Their minds aren’t going to get changed by more legislation. That only hurts the people that pay attention to the law to begin with. People need to be able to defend themselves against those who would harm them and the police need to be able to effectively do their jobs without having to debate whether or not the newspaper is going to make a story out of an arrest that will ultimately ruin the officers’ ability to engage in their profession and provide for their families. The trust needs to be put back into the people and the pressure needs to be on preparing people to act like adults. You didn’t learn to read by having your nose bloodied every time you spelled a word wrong.
- H8bogez
  
  Go back and check your history on Ronald Reagan. Ever hear of the Brady Law? Brady was in his entourage and got hit during the assassination attempt on Reagan. Ever wonder why California has strict gun laws? Goes back to when Reagan was their governor. As much as I like Reagan he was very anti gun.
- BOTA
  
  Look at your socialist fraud president. A produdct of the useless, oppressive system. Need I say more.
  - reggie
    
    name one anti gun law that Obama passed or tried to pass
    - RC
      
      Very true, there are none. However, let’s look at Romney’s record as Gov. Not quite so clean. Be careful who you vote for and get your facts.
    - cawpin
      
      Tried to pass?
      
      Ok, the international arms treaty that the UN has been pushing. Obama is in full support of it no matter what it would do to our guns rights.
      
      And, while it isn’t a law, he also reaffirmed Hillary Clinton’s, and the State Department’s, reversal of a decision to allow the RE-importation of WWII rifles that we gave to South Korea for them to use in their armed forces. They were going to SELL them back, though importers and dealers in the US. This would have been hundreds of millions of dollars being spent in a down economy and they cut it off.
      
      And just because he hasn’t pushed a ban of some kind doesn’t mean he won’t. He has stated multiple times that he thinks the 1994 “assault weapons” ban should be reintroduced as a permanent law even though it has been shown by multiple government agencies to have done nothing to curb crime. As much as I dislike the guy’s politics, he isn’t a complete moron. He isn’t going to try to push something like that in his first term.
    - mopar1838
      
      How about the ptes going to the UN and is still trying to get us to give up our guns, him and that nerd Hillary, oh yes and Pelosi
    - deadmensfingers
      
      He’s waiting for re-election when he will “have more
      flexibility” and nothing to lose. His history clearly shows
      how little he values the 2nd A.
      The Dem platform includes the re-incarnation of the so-called
      “Assault Weapons” ban.Do you think that “Fast & Furious” had ANY purpose but to get guns safely into Mexico from American gun stores ORDERED to make obvious straw sales, all for the sake of providing “evidence” to support the oft-told lie “90% of the guns used by Mexican cartels come from the U S ” ? The ultimate goal — “we need more gun laws” as the solution.
      - SL
        
        My uncle owns a gun store in South Texas. The ATF did not order them to do anything, they asked. And my uncle declined. Something about selling guns to a cartel and then ratting them out sounded like a bad idea.
    - Joe G
      
      He is still a socialist who believes in wealth redistribution. So, if you dont like to work he is your man. Fortunately for law enforcement officers,active or retired President George Bush signed into law their authority to carry concealed weapons even in states who have the highest crime rate like Illinois.
    - http://www.facebook.com/yackery Robert Proctor
      
      reggie, you assume that the tyrant uses legal means. See Fast and Furious: running U.S. guns to Mexican drug cartels in an environment of his call for tougher gun laws to control the flow of U.S. guns to Mexican drug cartels. What is executive privilege hiding in the Fast and Furious investigation? The gun grabbers are willing to murder to grab your gun! Think they won’t lie, cheat, back-door politik? What part of “shall not be infringed” don’t y’all get?
- Cobra
  
  Funny thing …. Illinois has the MOST restrictive gun laws (right to carry concealed is denied) but yet they have an extremely high murder by firearm rate …. which proves the criminals have absolutely no respect for law and will still acquire weapons (guns)
  - Lee
    
    That is why Obama likes Illinois.
Neal

Can someone please fix this page so the maps appear? I am using an iPad and they are absent.
sneakyinshorewood

I love having this information on hand!!
Joncspanky

I was just reading that California took away the right to open carry. What’s next?
tomjfrye

I heard that Nevada will soon allow Texas permits in that state. Can anyone confirm that?
johnr

I was just told at a gun store that Idaho no longer honors Washington State gun permits…is this true or bs….thanks is this map current??
Kaydee

You have to realize what this state is all about. How many govenors, office holders, etc. have been corrupt and are serving time now? This is Obama’s home state. Do you honestly think he wants conceal and carry in his state. Don’t you think he knew what was going on in that state, long before he ran for president. He is against ANYONE owning a gun. Yes, this is the beginning of the end and life as we now know it. Just go see the movie: 2016 if you don’t believe me.
tommie1107

You know whats so screwed up about this country, You got so many idiots who got permits and you got a lot of good people that cant get permits, All the bull-crap on money shoved out just to carry a firearm, Its crazy just open carry if your state permits it, Just put your gun in a case in your trunk and there is not a fricken thing the can do to mess with you, I’m not kidding no one i at least know 100 people who got permits and don’t even know how to load their pistol aint that the shit, So wake up America this is all a money thing for REVENUE!!!!
tommie1107

You know what screwed up in Illinois is that if everyone was allowed to carry guns the criminals would steal them hell were do you think they get their guns,, that’s why you cant have a gun in Illinois , I respect all the cops their, I’m a trucker for 37 years i go thru Chicago on a daily basis and its a messed up City, Imagine what the cops go thru every night there, So don’t ever think that Illinois will ever give CCW”s never ever, If they did their crime rate would triple they are the worst in crime in the US, Last week they had 37 people killed just in one day, Thats fricken crazy
- John
  
  I have to disagree with you Tommie. If law abiding people had carry permits the criminals would think twice about who they are going to rob. Also if all these shooting are going on then where are all the criminals getting there guns? A person who is law abiding and in good mental health should be able to protect himself and his family not just in the home.
  - tommie1107
    
    I agree with you John didn’t mean to offend you,every gun a criminal has is stolen thats fact, I agree with you on what you say Sorry dude, Every good person should be able to carry!!
- http://twitter.com/Jaybuck JD
  
  Tommie they can’t issue to everyone in Chicago. Many are felons & many won’t apply.
  The percentage of permits issued in Chicago will be no more than 10%. The percentage of criminals carrying a gun will be 100% but the crime rate will eventially decrease.
Not_So_Much

I just received my concealed carry permit from the state of Utah. Being able to acquire the permit is just one reason I moved from the formerly golden state. My background was checked and the FBI ran my finger prints after I attended a class for several hours. I have no problem with these measures being in place. As for open carry I don’t see myself doing that unless it’s in the great outdoors and it’s not the two leg critter I’m concerned with.
JoeThegunowner

To each there own. Guns are just another tool. Sometimes I carry one and sometimes I do not. Sometimes I carry my pocket knife and there are times and places I do not. Sometimes I even carry a pen, but I almost always carry my must used tool … the cell phone. Does it bother me that I have to do my part and not carry anything that could become a weapon on an airplane … no … I like when I have an excuse not to shave lol! I would like to and want to follow our laws. If one day the law of the land states that we can no longer carry a gun …. well? Then would I find myself a made outlaw? In NY a women can walk down main street topless. Seems like a good idea for breast feeding mothers. Do I want to see a man or a women walking into a corner store without shoes, or shirt … no I rather not. Do I care if they want to feel the breeze on a beach or in a park … I don’t care. When my father served in the US Army things were much loser and every soldier kept their weapon … Hence, some gun play got out of control and the weapons were locked up. When I served in the US Army we kept control over weapons and ammo, yet a soldier afraid of going to Iraq after training manage to sneak a single round off the rifle range and shoot himself in the foot. Growing up a deer hunter; at first, I was afraid to be next to my new fellow soldier that had no experience with a gun before joining the military … safety for them wasn’t natural it seemed. In short, I for one would hate to see the right to carry a gun taken away. That is not to say I think all people are fit to carry a gun!
Jeremy

The most upsetting thing about the argument on the 2-a, is the lack of undertsanding. The 2-a assumes an individual has the right to defend themselves. It dictates that an indovidual has the right to defend their country, their freedoms, and themselves from a tyrannical govetnment. We need the 2-a as well as those individuals who do heavily equip themselves, as a deterant to our govetnment from becomming something it shouldnt be.
USACarry

We just launched the new version of our maps. They should load much faster and you can also view them on iPhone/iPad/Android devices. Let us know what you think!
Delucas

Please update recognition of SC by Nevada and Mississippi.
- USACarry
  
  Thanks. This has been updated.
Depilit

That’s really neat! It sure clears the questions regarding reciprocity. Thank you!
Az rez

Calif & New York DOES NOT honor Az permits !!! BEWARNED !!! This site is WRONG !
foxman

If you have a permit in Floroda and move to South Carolina, can you swap your Fl permit for a SC permit?
ThatSameRick

In the case of Oregon, there is an inconsistency between the permit map, which says that the state is shall-issue for residents and may-issue for non-residents. So far as I can tell, the permit map is correct, but the discrepancy persists.
ThatSameRick

Addition: I meant to say that the reciprocity map states that Oregon is shall-issue for residents and non-residents. I believe that correct and complete information would be that Oregon is shall-issue for residents and may-issue for residents of the four contiguous states, that is, Idaho, California, Washington and Nevada.
Freethinker01

Thank you for taking the time to keep this updated. It is an indispensible resource!
http://www.facebook.com/joey.wilkerson.79 Joey Wilkerson

I am a North Carolina resident. It is fairly difficult to to get a cc permit here. It takes about 90 days after taking a cc course. I have one but in NC you can also open carry if you like. When I took the class they told us that over 248,000 people in NC have a cc permit. NC has some of the best gun laws in the country in my opinion. They do not make you feel like you are doing wrong by owning/carrying a gun.
COP1612

I would like to see a national effort to put pressure on our electorate to enact legislation similar to Public Law 108-277 (which I currently enjoy), which would afford all citizens to exercise their 2nd amendment right is they so choose, regardless of state, local laws to the contrary. The 2nd Amendment is in the “United States” constitution, meaning it should apply to all states equally, similar to the “Miranda Ruling” and the 5th Amendment protection which applies equally to all states. I could give more examples of how rules of the constitution apply equally to all states. We need to attack this problem as a constitutional problem and not as individual state problems. The way I read the constitution, concealed or open carry should be not be infringed by any state, I read no education or training requirement. In Illinois, Bill of Rights,Article I, Sec. 22 reads: Right to Arms – Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, Artical XII Militia, Sec. 1, membership; reads- The state militia consists of all able-bodied persons residing in the state except those exempted by law. I don’t know why Illinois lawyers can’t when guns rights cases with these two rights in the Illinois constitution. We gun owners should stop fighting 50 separate battles to secure our 2nd Amendment rights, we should fight one with the United States government at any and all levels until the government recognizes the 2nd Amendment does apply equally to all citizens in all states equally.
- Bhdaugh
  
  I’m currently trying to push this as well.
JAY C.

I’m ready brother!
Derekf900

If Obama gets re-elected to the White House again we won’t have to worry about owning firearms or who’s right concerning legal open carry or conceal carry anymore….Obama and his Leftist Socialist cronies will just take all of our firearms through an illegal executive order and nobody will stop Obama because everyone seems to give the
” Anointed One ” a pass on everything he does….I think we must take a stand and vote Obama and his leftists out of office. If we do not stand together against this madman Obama WILL continue to destroy the USA from within. High unemployment, high taxes, high national deficits in the $20 Trillions, no more 2nd amendment protection, Obamacare, a massive welfare state, a gutted military…….The list goes on and on………
tim1786

If I’m a Resident of DE (whose permit is tough to get, and costly) and get an out-of-state permit from say, VA, one in which DE has reciprocity, does DE honor that permit, or do I still need th ein-State DE license?
John

I’m almost sure you will need your DE permit to get a non resident permit. You can get a non resident permit but those states will not honor it in you’re home state
ConfusedCarrier

I need a little help here. I am a Florida resident, with a Florida resident CCW permit. I am currently living the full time RV lifestyle and presently staying in North Carolina with occasional trips over the line into South Carolina for shopping and such, as I live near the state line. Am I cool to carry in S.C. with my Florida Address, DL and CCW? I am confused by the shall issue thing and when i change the map from Resident to Non Resident permit for Florida, S.C. changes from blue to red. What is my status in S.C. with a permanent Fl address, a temporary N.C. address and the above described permit and address and DL? I can look it up, and I have, but unfortunately I am not a lawyer and it only left me more confused…

thanks in advance for the assistance from my fellow carrying community members here…
R S Morgan

Does not seem to address my families situation. We currently live in California but do not have a CA CCW. However, all four of us have Utah and NV permits.

RSM
Learn2Survive

Here’s a law for you all to check up since you all seem so content in quoting the law:

USC 18 §2381 – POTUS is currently in violation of this one and

USC 18 §2382 – Congress is currently in violation of this one
SKIPTORT

THANX FOR THE NEW MAP SYSTEM….
Goodnewsgirl

It’s not going to get any better. My home in AZ was just robbed. The sheriff’s department knows exactly who did it (my tools and swing are sitting on their front porches) but say they no longer have the money or manpower to deal with simple robberies. But then (since all my ammo was stolen and some dropped on the floor) they wanted to know if any guns were stolen, exactly what I had, and suggestions on how I shouldn’t try to protect myself if this happens in the future! Right.
cawpin

You need to add another note. Indiana does not have a regular non-resident permit. The only way a somebody who does not live in Indiana can get an Indiana permit is if if they have a regular place of business in Indiana.
J Rod

NJ may as well be black State as well. You have no chance of getting a permit here.
twoclones

Opps! I enter Washington as my state of residence then click on Oregon (because I have an Oregon license) and Oregon stays in the Permit Not Honored list.
Patrick Henery

I’m sick of this crap you people have no idea what it is to live in New Jersey. THEY DO NOT ISSUE ANY PERMITS! PERIOD!!!!!!! YOU CAN NOT GET A PERMIT EVEN WITH A LAWYER!!!! You can carry on your property till one of the fucking little Nazi’s calls the cops on you then it’s banishing a weapon. So there goes 5,000 to clear yourself. Due to the steroid doping cops that can’t read, spell, or comprehend any law!!!If you own a handgun and stop at a store to get a soda you will get 7 YEARS in prison. Only retired cops get anything and they fight for it too.
Ron Whisenant

I have an Oregon Concealed Carry Permite.
The States that except my Permite are in blue
the States in red don’t but in the list of State
that don’t except my Oregon permite you have
Oregon “Please Explain” Thanks Ron
http://intoexploring.blogspot.com/ Greg

Ill-annoy really needs to get with the program. It infringes upon our gun rights, yet has the highest amount of violent crime, much of which is perpetrated with guns. I wonder how much more confident and brazen criminals are knowing their victims will be unarmed…
fedup99

Some of you are right and most wrong. Simple fact: Obama and the eds hve nothing t do with a states regulation of firearms, perio. Blame the state of Ill. ot the feds.
Bill

What does the Green States stand for??? Ok to Carry?
- USACarry
  
  If you see green then you selected a state you have a permit in which means you can carry in the state, if you have the permit. On the second map, green indicates the state you clicked on to see what permits they accept or don’t.
Michael

Be sure to vote in November to stop Socialism.
lou

what states honor carry permits issued to retired police officers under federal law HR218
http://www.facebook.com/people/Daryl-Smith/593357672 Daryl Smith

Your map says that New Mexico DOES NOT issue non-resident concealed carry permits but other sources say they DO. So who is right???
- cawpin
  
  They do not. Page 2 (5th page of PDF)
  
  29-19-4. Applicant qualifications.
  A. (2)
  
  Also, the 2nd question on the actual application (included toward the end of the linked PDF):
  “2. Are you a resident of New Mexico or a member of the armed forces whose permanent duty station is located in New Mexico or a dependent of such a member? ”
  
  New Mexico does HONOR non-resident permits from states who’s permits it honors. I think that may be the confusion on other places you’ve found.
AmericanDad

I’m confused. If I’m a Florida resident, Utah is yellow on map 2, and I have a Utah permit, does that mean I can carry in Florida? “Yellow means only residents of that state that have permits are allowed.” Does this mean only UTAH residents with Utah permits are honored in Florida, or does it mean only FLORIDA residents with a Utah permit are allowed?
old school

Illinois is one screwed up state. Only the Cheeeccaago thugs have the guns. Honest people do not stand a chance in the corrupt state.
Dan

With a valid utah conceal carry permit am I allowed to drive my car in Indiana with my firearm concealed on me?
- cawpin
  
  Yes. Again, Indiana recognizes ALL states’ carry permits.
jawman

What happened to the Print option? Where did it go?
- dave
  
  #1 right click #2 then copy image #3 then open MS WORD #4 paste to Word document #5 then print.
  - jawman
    
    I know how to do this. And it does not answer my question.
PassinThru

Is it true? If I carry a firearm from VA where I have a resident CCW to FL, in SC I must leave it in the console or glove box except to move to a motel room? However, I can use it to protect myself wile in a motel room as it is my temporary place of residence. After reading the law 4 times this is how I interpret it. In Georgia I must have it in plain sight to transport it across the state?
- miso_sori
  
  Get yourself a FL or UT non-resident CCP and I think you should be all good.
staberdearth

Note how Illinois is most restrictive yet is consistently in the news for crime by gun, mostly in South Chicago… So tell me, why is their way better? Perhaps a bit more CC and reciprocity might do this home area of the far left anti American Obama good…
- Pissed off non resident
  
  Illionois crime would drop significantly if the criminals knew they could die tonight. The problem for Illinois is that their politicians are mostly felons too.
  - sarah stein
    
    More people are avoiding Chicago like the plague. Nobody wants to be a victim of beat whitey night, knockout king game or polar bear hunting. If I have to travel through Illinois, I lock up my firearm and purchase a full tank of gas and something to eat to get me through that state prior to entering..
Jon

Why, oh why, does the only state blacked out on the map have to be the one I live in…. Very depressing…. Hopefully Illinois will change their minds soon……
- Pissed off non resident
  
  Look on the bright side, American Samoa and N. Marianna Islands are blacked out too
- sarah stein
  
  I left Illinois and will never return if they don’t allow concealed carry. And since I’m the average citizen, Illinois will be losing a lot of tax payers. Sooner or later they’ll have to allow concealed carry, they’ll have no choice.
mopar1838

I have a NY CCW and have moved, how do I change it to the non resident status? I do have a VA CCW.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Bennigans/100002896932063 Daniel Bennigan’s

I live in the BS state of IL … their excuse for not having a CCW permit is … “the constitution doesn’t permit the carrying of weapons”. Really, so 49 other states are wrong?! Needless to say, I will just give my money to Utah … IL must not want it too bad. What a bunch of idiots though, seriously!
Bozoshoes

At the very least (since nobody can get together on this) holders of a concealed carry permit should be legal anywhere in the U.S. on the Interstate Highway system. That way, one could travel across country and not have to worry about this nonsense. The Interstate highways are, after all, FEDERAL PROPERTY and states which suffer from stupidity such as Illinois could not be able to restrict your travel through. The law would have to acknowledge that you need to eat, sleep, and get gas, so the policy should at least allow your permit for a reasonable distance off the interstate.
http://twitter.com/JasonGriest Jason Griest

A simple stupidity test: Which State has no CWP/CCP and the highest murder rate in America?

Liberals just can’t figure it out but maybe when they all kill each other off in Illinois there will be the Conservative influx to set thing right.
tomc

So what does a black state (Illinois) permit? Nothing? No explanation for color black!
Marty

Indians got along for YEARS and YEARS with bow & arrow… Why are they on reservations?
Will

This is why we need a Federal CDW permit issued by ATF. Or, in the alturnative, pass a Federal all that says all state CDW permits are valid in the United States. This Hodge Podg of laws is crazy.
Mikey Joe

I have a resident permit in Oregon, and one from Florida, and your “permit not honored” says it is not honored in Oregon…. your software has a bug dude!
LJT

Interesting that the only state in which the right to have a CWP is IL, the home of Barak Obama. This speaks volumes to which I only hope everyne hears by Tuesday Nov 6th.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=722136046 Daniel Stoner

Used to be, Utah was the best place to get a non-resident permit… which one is best now please?
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=722136046 Daniel Stoner

Nevermind. Did my own analysis; think I figured it out… the 5 best states to get non-resident permits in, roughly in order, strictly from a carry-in-most-places perspective, are: ND, FL, UT, AZ, and TX. Some oddities I found in these …. Among these 5 best for NR permits: (1) Only UT, ND, and FL will allow carry in WA, (2) Only ND, FL, and TX will allow carry in NM, (3) Only UT does NOT allow carry in KS, (4) Only UT and TX allow carry in MN, (5) Only FL allows carry in FL!!!, (6) Only AZ allows carry in NV, and (7) Only UT, ND, and AZ allow carry in WI. On all the rest of the states, they’re the same, at least with respect to any state I’d ever want to visit.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=722136046 Daniel Stoner

Actually now I’d rank them: (1) ND, (2) UT, (3) AZ, (4) TX, and (5) FL .. again, this is only taking into account where all you can carry, and nothing else (cost, wait, headache, etc.). UT, AZ, and TX are a virtual tie in the middle 3, with ND the clear winner, and FL the clear last place among the top 5.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=722136046 Daniel Stoner

If you want to go to as many states as possible, and are willing to get TWO NR permits (but only two), the best one-two punch combos are, roughly in order: (1) UT plus FL – Lets you go anyplace that you’re capable of going (with NR permits), EXCEPT NV, (2) ND plus AZ – Lets you go anyplace that you’re capable of going, EXCEPT MN or FL (unacceptable to me because I want to visit northern MN to go to the public lands there), (3) ND plus TX – Lets you go anyplace that you’re capable of going, EXCEPT NV or FL, and (4) UT plus AZ – Lets you go anyplace that you’re capable of going, EXCEPT NM or FL, and (5) ND plus FL – Lets you go anyplace that you’re capable of going, EXCEPT NV or MN.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=722136046 Daniel Stoner

The best triple-state combo, if you’re willing to get three different ones, is clearly the sole winner of: UT plus FL plus AZ . This combo lets you go anywhere / everywhere that you’re capable of going with NR permits only, including WA, NM, KS, MN, FL, NV, WI, UT, AZ, TX, ND, and many others – but of course NOT in the really stingy states for some reason, like CO, SC, MI, ME, NH, and other places that you might think would. There is no need to ever get 4 or more NR shall-issue permits, near as I can tell.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=722136046 Daniel Stoner

I’m not going to get a Florida on principle – I don’t want to give my money to a state that is that stingy, so bottom line, for me, it’s a tossup between ND plus TX, or UT plus AZ. If I don’t mind being disarmed in NV, and want to go armed in NM, then I should get ND plus TX. If I don’t mind being disarmed in NM, and want to go armed in NV, then I should get UT plus AZ. What else should I consider between those two choices: ND&TX, UT&AZ ?
- StoutCortez
  
  It’s a good idea to get as many CCW permits as you can. I have nine (AL, FL, AZ, UT, VA, PA, NH, ME, CT).
http://www.facebook.com/doug.parrish.5680 Doug Parrish

o.k i am going to say this and what i have to say may or may not offend you, and i don’t care either way. a lot of you people seem to think the same way, in that democrats want guns banned and republicans want guns or something like that, anyway here is my thought on this whole concealed carry thing, what does politics have to do with your god givin right to protect your self, feed yourself, and protect your way of life? i am not a prepper, or some fanatic, i am an AMERICAN who has served this nation to defend what freedoms we have. And as such i believe in the right to defend myself, my family, and my way of life from all threats foreign and domestic. yea i have a permit, but i don’t agree that i should have to have it, and in the state i live in i don’t have to have it but i got it for the reciprocity in 38 of the 48 lower states. and as an armed citizen i believe i have an obligation to carry every day and i do. i also believe that there will come a time when we will have to defend ourselves from ourselves, if that makes any sense. think about this for a second, you and your family are walking down some street and your confronted by a man with a gun but you don’t believe that law abiding citizens should carry guns because the law will protect you, so you don’t have a gun or carry a gun, so the man grabs your child and demands your cash and such and you give it to him in hopes to save your child from harm. and what does this piece of slime do but shoot your child anyway because the child is of no use to him anymore and neither are you. so he continues to slaughter you and your family because he knows that you will not or can not defend yourself.now same situation except a group of law biding people pass by but they are concealed carry people and they see what is happening and do their duty draw the weapons they have and now the piece of slime must deal with being out gunned and because you also carry you are able to show that he will not get off so easy because you have drawn your weapon and stepped in front of your child to protect the child . i am just saying crimanals will have guns no matter what the law says, shouldnt you be able to protect your self? think about it in this situation where was the law when you needed them, they will show up after the child and possibly yourself and your family have been injured or worse killed, what help are they then.
Johnny Alessi

I once watched a man get beat to death by another mans bare hands. If that guy who died had a gun on him and he lived in Florida he might still be alive. That’s why I live in Florida and carry everyday everywhere. I carry a gun when I’m in my pajamas at home that’s how ready you have to be.
Josh

Virginia offers online test for $24.99 awesome right
Dakota in VA

I have read a number of postings here and I’d like to add my two cents… There are those who like/love guns and those who dislike/hate guns. And there is nothing wrong with
that. The issue is just as much about respect as it is about rights. Respect as in, respecting other people’s views. Everyone is entitled to their views and just because they don’t agree with your view doesn’t make them a bad person or a non-American.

I am a bleeding-heart liberal, but I carry a Sig. But I also respect those who are anti gun.

I think anyone who supports gun ownership and calls those who are opposed to guns any kind of names or calls them unpatriotic is doing a great disservice to the cause. It would be far better for the cause to inform and educate the non-believers if you will, than point a finger at them and call them names with more than a hint of disdain in your voice. You will never convert someone if you start the conversation calling them names simply because they have a different option than yours. It doesn’t make them any less American.

Who knows, maybe one day you will come to the aid of someone and the fact that you were in a position to help or save them might be enough to convert them… and you didn’t even have to call them a name. If you believe it’s our constitutional right to bears arms, than you should equally believe it’s our right not to. It’s a matter of choice and nothing could be more American.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Agnon-Mema/100000001379385 Agnon Mema

I live in Minnesota, and my permit is not honored in very few of the uber-pro-2nd Amendment open-carry states…..
nopermitneeded

If law abiding citizens are not allowed to carry then only the criminals and the police who are so short staffed, underpaid, and overworked wil be carrying and we cannot defend ourselves. I am a post vietnam vet so I have not been in the face of war, I do not want in the face of a criminal unarmed and cannot protect myself or my family. All the politicians voting against carry permits are surrounded my secert service who are carrying more than one sidearm
Rusty

I live in NJ, and we can’t have a CCP here unless you have a business where you carry large amounts of cash or jewelry. I wish I could carry.
Millertime269

The right to keep and bear arms should not be limited by types of guns. I am 27 and have carried every day since I was 21. As former Navy, I see the need for people to carry. It’s a sad but true fact of the times we live in. As for automatic weapons and assault rifles: if the criminals in the world have them, should the law abiding citizens not have the weapons of the enemy? Join the NRA or local gun club to fight for a change in Washington before we all get tired and decide to just accept regulation no questions asked. God bless America.
BG

It’s interesting how in Clark County, WA it was easier to get my Concealed then my drivers license.
BG

I was thinking about this whole concealed….and i think people should have an option to get a Federal Concealed Permit where all states must recognize it.
Shawn from Ohio

If you have a permit, Arizona, Alaska, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan (1), Missour, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Sout Dakota, Tennessee, Utah and Vermont. These states automatic legal recognition to all other states. Michigan only recoginze resident holders. So they might want to up date their map with some of the states.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-B-Brock/1637778302 Robert B Brock

No permit, and I never leave home without my SR .357 mag.
jared

you dont need a permit in wyoming and casper wy is open cary lol
Elizabeth Romp

Thank goodness my permit is from AR. I can carry in most states. It’s funny how the states with the most strict forms of gun control have the highest crime. If there’s anyplace I would want my gun on me…its California, or New York, or Illinois, ect.
Steameo

To the ultra right neocon conservative types that have posted on this sight, are you truly serious with the paranoia about a liberal government, here in the USA, becoming tyrannical and taking your freedoms and your firearms? Because if I were you, I would have been a hell of a lot more concerned back in 02/03 when a “conservative” bunch allowed domestic eavesdropping on phone and email through the Patriot Act. Now that’s one that should have gotten your shorts in a bunch. There’s a lot more to life than guns folks. You can carry in National Parks now. But fear the liberal.
- StoutCortez
  
  Liberal Harry Belafonte just advised liberal Barack Obama to “lock up your enemies like a third-world dictator.” Yes, I do fear this government. Historically, people have suffered far more at the hands of their own governments than from attacks by foreign enemies.
John-NYS

Really? NYS Supreme Court upheld Westchester law concerning show need to carry. Lawyer says its a win for anti gun violence. Anti gun policies should restrict illegal guns NOT permit holders who are law abiding. Many laws tougher for those who committ crimes
http://www.facebook.com/amy.k.thompson.1 Amy Katherine Thompson

I recieved my ccw in arizona and the reason that not all states dont accept all other states ccws is because of states like iowa and how you get a ccw in iowa all you need to do is take an online course (plus the standard background check). they dont even ensure that you know physically how to use a firearm properly (marksmanship, safe handling, ect.) so be careful if you get a ccw in such a state and kill or injure an innocent bystander by missing your target, firearm misfire, or over penetration it is still your fault and will be prosecuted with manslaughter and or sued by said bystander’s family. it is better to find the state that has the most requirements and qualifiers to obtain the ccw and learn as much as you can about firearm law, firearm usage, and firearm safety as possible. im not saying this to be mean or rude but if we are careful about how we use the ccw then the current administration will have more ammo to fuel the fight to stripe us of our second amendment right!
Mike

Why when I click on my state (Oregon), it says not honored in Oregon? U need to fix the software, dude.
- USACarry
  
  We just noticed this bug and are working on fixing it asap.
Bill

It was a real PITA to go to Oregon to visit family from Texas this year. I had to AVOID even driving thru California as I had a gun with me. Not even allowed in a car? Preposterous! Thank God I live in Texas! I have NO plans to go back to the west coast ever again….
jawman

I’m confused and hopefully someone can clear this up for me. I live in Illinois but am sending in the paperwork for AZ and FL to get non-resident permits. When I click on AZ and select non-resident, Wisconsin lights up blue and Wisconsin is part of the list that honors my permit. But then the notes say “Wisconsin accepts Virginia Non-Resident Permits Only”. So which is it? Is my AZ non-res permit valid for Wisconsin carry or not? This is very confusing and could get a lot of people in trouble if they go to a state that they think honors their permit but really doesn’t.
- StoutCortez
  
  Your AZ permit is good in WI, whether it is resident or nonresident. In an odd twist, WI honors VA nonresident permits but not VA resident permits. Apparently, VA has stricter criteria for nonresident permits, and those criteria meet WI standards.
  - jawman
    
    Thank you for the clear and concise explanation. Exactly what I was looking for!!
Paul

We are finally going to have a the right to carry here in Illinois!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marvin

This is not one country. It is a Union of 50.
Steve

That map thing is screwy, I clicked on Oregon, I clicked on resident. I looked for states that honor my CCW then those that don’t, Oregon was listed as a don’t. Weird.
- USACarry
  
  We see the glitch and will be getting that fixed asap.
- bobmoon
  
  If you live and have a valid CCL you can obtain a non resident CCL in the state of Washington and I believe in Idaho. Conversely if you have a CCL in one of the bordering states to Oregon you are now allowed to obtain a Non resident CCL in Oregon. I have a resident CCL in Washington and a Non resident in Oregon.
old boat sailor

Larry Ohio I hav a CCP. I’ve been asked many time why I carry. Simple answer, is because i can.. 2ND ammendment all the way…
Patrick

I live in the Davenport, IA which is right on the border of Illinois. I have a Illinois FOID card becuase I just moved to IA…does the FOID card translate into anything in Iowa. For example, does it mean Im allowed to buy or own guns in Iowa but just not carry and conceal it.
Kent

This is off the cuff and not very well thought out but maybe it could be an endorsement on your drivers license .. Then when you go to renew your license you can renew your CCW..

Maybe??
Junk

I can’t wait to see what happens to the crime rate! 5 will get you 10 the media buries it.
Ron

It’s ridiculous how we are the only state that doesn’t allow a concealed carry permit but we consistently have the highest murder rate in the country. Something needs to be done about that. I guess we will all have to ignore the laws, like everyone else just to protect ourselves. In other states you can walk into a gun shop/range with just an ID and be able to shoot. Here you have to have a FOID card. It’s a shame how regular civilians have to suffer because of the ones doing the killing.
bb

interstates should be exempt.. it’s such a pain in the butt trying to plan a trip home for the holidays and having to map your route around these stupid reciprocity agreements.. a 10 mile stretch through maryland will cost me and extra 50 miles just to avoid that liberal lunacy…
Edward

I click on Wisconsin for resident ccw…states listed as not honoring include Wisconsin???
Ed

This needs to be updated. Just recently Illinois allowed concealed carry after a federal court tossed the ban out
- http://www.facebook.com/Puravida1Gringo Andy Snyder
  
  Not yet. The State of Illinois has 6 months to draw up a law so don’t be too hasty about trying CCW in Illinois. You can bet Springfield and Chicago will fight this decision and appeal it.
  - cawpin
    
    Thank you for replying to this. I forgot to when I saw this comment posted last week.
NA1L5

Why does my state, Indiana, accept all other state permits but mine is good in about 20? I dont get it. One Nation one permit, easy!
bushmasteraz

too funny the only state that is right denied is the great State of Illinois, isn’t that where the current CIC was senator? I am not looking forward to moving forward after recent events. I knew this agenda would eventually make itself seen…
D O SPRIGGS

I for one am against assault weapon, however, I am not against handguns. Some may say they both kill. Which is true, but given the crazies out there that dont go to through background checks, pick up guns on the street, or just steal them, I choose to have a weapon. I have children and a family that I dearly love. And when I see all the home envasions, holdups, and random dumbazzs shootingg people these days, I choose to take the preventive stand. To all that are against HANDGUNS, let someone enterbyour home hurt your family and all you had was a phone and a hope 911 answers in time; you will get the picture. My family first and anyone trying to hurt them with fire will meet that fire multiplied. Victims of violence look at the gun not the person mostly, and many are against having a gun. I will be willing to bet that once becoming a victim th thought of what if I had had a gun to deter the situation at some point crosses their minds. This is America people DO YOU! As for me I will be protected, because if I dont WHO WILL? (Veteran 16 years, medically discharged. You accept me carring guns to protect you and the country, but you dont want me to carry to protect myself and family. How ludicrous is this?)
- cawpin
  
  You are the worst kind of gun owner.
  “We must hang together, gentlemen…else, we shall most assuredly hang separately.”
  — Benjamin Franklin
  
  Also, “assault weapon” means nothing. If you are talking about an “assault rifle,” then you need to show me where one has been used in a shooting. You then claim a handgun is ok because it can be used for home defense. An AR-15 is a much better home defense arm than any handgun.
- WOP 2
  
  D O: Since you are a 16 year Veteran of the Armed Services, you of all folks should know what an assault weapon is. Its a select fire weapon capable of sustained fire with one squeeze of the trigger. It may be crew served, or man portable, but it must be select fire. That said, the NFA of 1934 put serious restrictions on civilian ownership of machine guns and submachine guns. While I don’t think its necessary to have an M-2 quad mount at your disposal to repel home invaders, I’ll take an AR platform rifle, semi-automatic, in 5.56 NATO anytime as an adequate firearm to defend the home, or the driveway, or the immediate field of fire outside my residence.
  I do agree that a hand cannon is a convenient home protection firearm, and I have one at my bedside. It will give me a chance to reach my AR or my combat shotgun.
  Thank you for your service to God and Country. I was, fortunately, able to complete my 20 years in relative obscurity, never having seen the battlefield. Retired in 1989, just before the Shootout in the Sand Box, and pulled my Vietnam tour in theatre, but not in country.
  - cawpin
    
    Again, assault rifle, not assault weapon.
Roy

Original intent… Keep and bear arms. No license, no permit, no background check. Anything other is bullshit. All government officials, including police, take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. If they disagree with this they are a traitor and deserve no quarter.
Gary

Oregon is listed as “Shall Issue” to Residents and Non-Residents. It is not. It is “Shall Issue” only for residents & property owners. Is is “May Issue” for non-residents of bordering states. “Won’t Issue” to other states.
dosequis

Rhode Island is a May Issue state. Cities and Towns are considered “Shall Issue” however, they more than often will deny your application. You can sue the town/city police chief for denying you, but they know that it’ll cost you a shit load of money so they deny you anyway.
Paladin

I carry everywhere, because I have that right per the 2nd Amendment! A bunch of blowhards in power cannot supercede that!
wildhog

I live in Georgia can I apply for a non residents permit in south Carolina
Andrew64

I have a question that may be super simple to answer but i was just wondering, my girlfriend lives in Kansas and she has her conceal and carry license, i live in indiana and she is thinking about moving in with me, is it possible that her license would transfer over into indiana .

Thanks Andrew
590700

I can’t understand why GA won’t honor a VA resident permit. Come on guys, get it together!
Bill

Thank you for a great reference site!
I now have four permits and will consider UT next.

Bill
jlockard1

Mississippi has basically two different CCW permits. The basic permit allows you to carry most common places except anywhere alcohol is served or sold as a primary source of income, schools, federal bldgs, law enforcement centers, etc. The Enhanced CCW, however, allows you to carry anywhere except a courtroom where a judge is on the bench, law enforcement centers, and federal bldgs. The difference is that the enhanced CCW requires classroom training and range qualification. Both require fingerprints and background checks. This, to me, makes perfect sense and they have to be renewed every 5 years, including the class/range for the ECCW. Logic is a funny thing…ain’t it? It would make more sense to have better reciprocity or a uniform CCW process nationwide.
KG

Problem is that some states will issue a CWP to someone that has never picked up a gun or seen one up close, much less had any meaningful training. That presents a danger to everyone.
- WOP 2
  
  This is where PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY kicks in. Do you want a Nanny State dictating what level of training and familiarity with your firearm you must have, or would you rather, as a responsible firearms owner, seek as much training as you can afford? It is incumbent upon any person who purchases any potentially dangerous item (chain saw, power mower, power saw) to insure that they safely and proficiently operate the item, and insure that children, and other adults, do not have unfettered access to the item. I think any clear thinker can figure that out. State mandated training associated with the purchase of a gun can be capriciously changed at any time to make it more difficult or nearly impossible to buy, or to carry, a firearm for self defense. I mean, really, how much did you know about the destructive power of a chain saw the first time you bought it? Personal responsibility that accompanies each of our rights! What a concept.
solodrums09

I am kind of curious as to who’s, which state’s permit is accpted in more “other ststes” than anyone elses permit and why? Because the trining for a CCW and range time is all pretty much the same, state to state in my experience. When I got my Arizona permit, we had to submit two finger print cards and a very complete background check for any convictions or problems, so, why isn’t my permit accepted in any state issuing premits??? Just wondering since most all of the states in our Union now have concealed carry permits available to law abiding citizens, except for the People’s Republic of Illinois.
Davy Navy

I kind of wish PA would require a safety course or other proof of gun safety knowledge(DD214) . This way our permit would be hnored in more states, I would not have to get the FL license in that case.
- WOP 2
  
  I respectfully disagree. Utah CCW is quite popular if you are concerned with reciprocity. So far as mandatory training in PA, please don’t give Curtis Thomas and those other loons from Philadelphia a chance to “give” you something, and then take it away later.
  What we need is an AG that will forcefully seek reciprocity, and at the Federal level, a mandate that, under the 10th Amendment, all licenses are honored by all states (just like your marriage license or drivers license)
  Training yes. MANDATORY training–never!
Tom

Let’s make this simple. Question: it appears that I can carry everywhere but going through Illinois the gun is locked and in the trunk. Right?
Keith

I love the resident/non resident update! thank you.
semperfi

It only takes a criminal a short walk to some dark alley to buy a weapon, it takes us law abiding citizens an almost un-winning challenge to carry a weapon for protection. This is not what we signed for.
Eric

I have a permit to carry in sd. Going to travel to chicago. Dose my permit to carry protect me.
- cawpin
  
  Did you look at the map? Illinois doesn’t allow carry of any kind. Even when they finally implement their system, as ordered by the courts, it isn’t going to be easy to get one there and they probably won’t recognize permits from anywhere else.
Echo52

I do not understand why Ohio does not honor Indiana permits?
- http://www.facebook.com/bob.chandler.566 Bob Chandler
  
  Because Indiana requires no training to get your permit and Ohio does. I live in Indiana but have family in Ohio so I have to properly store my weapon when I cross the border. You can get a permit in a state that does have reciprosity with Ohio and then you can legally carry.
p from sodak

Why do all the states recognize my licence to drive which is a privilege and not my permit to carry which is tied to my right to bear. And the permit fee is unconstitutional. What’s next a tax on freedom of speech America is going down the shit hole. Sad
Geri

I’ve been waiting for mine for 13 weeks now went for 8 course did all I had to do to get my gun license , for to give my a letter saying we’re the X Mark is read it say a have been a dependent or a was in a crime I never went to jail in my life not even a speed ing ticket unreal no what do I do ????? I went on line did that a cori check like I thought no record
- cawpin
  
  First, what state is this in? That will determine what you have to do. Most likely a call or trip down to the police station, or sheriff’s office, will get it cleared up.
jeff

Whats up between ohio and pa.?I live in Ohio on border of Pa and cant cross going to my camp in Wv.
Tim

Indiana allows 18 year olds to obtain a ccw permit. I’ve had one since I was 19 and I’m 30 now.
- cawpin
  
  Yes, they do.
BadComrade

I dont understand why someone with a Arizona permit can carry in almost all 50 states but someone with a PA permit cant carry in most new england states!? wtf
TexasGunner

New York City???? Get a rope! It’s good to be a Texan!!
Russ

The Constitution supersedes ALL other laws, be they state or federal. As an American citizen I have the RIGHT to bear (carry) arms. Why do I need PERMISSION beyond proof of citizenship to exercise my RIGHT? Constitutionally, I DON’T!!!

Oh, I forgot, we’re no longer a nation of LAWS and the Constitution no longer applies.
Dragonfly

If you have the right to carry in one state, what difference does it make when you go to another state?! Last I looked this is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! Come on people…No one should have to prove themselves over again with the permit if you’ve already done so once. Just another way for states to make money while trying to screw people making laws to take away their rights to have guns.

Bottom line is, guns DO NOT kill people….people kill people. So if there is a crime spree where a knife is used then there will be a jump on banning knives???? No weapon kills people its the person behind the weapon. Keep that in mind when you jump on the band wagon to kill gun rights! So jump on that band wagon to better check out people’s background & mental status. That would be well spent money,time & effort!
http://twitter.com/jasminemeyer711 maryhall

It’s odd that the state directly north of me will not honor my resident CCW permit, but it does honor my Utah non-resident CCW permit. Way to go, Minnesota!
WTF

Yes? No? Maybe so?
Wisconsin accepts Virginia Non-Resident Permits Only.”
Ron

can i travel through washington d.c. and maryland with a gun in the car?
http://www.facebook.com/rod.dehoff Rod DeHoff

If I have my permit and i do it should be good in any state that has a permit .Rod from Indiana
sully

i have a CDL drivers license, honored in all states, a marriage license honored in all states, why isn’t my conceal carry honored in all states, i had to have a background check to get it, and a background check on the purchase of any guns, i did not have to do either to get married or drive a truck. and yes my truck can be as dangerous as a gun .
berry

This map is mistaken. It will not allow me to select 2 states for resident permits. I know i’m a special circumstance, but being active duty military, i am eligible to hold a michigan(home of record) South Carolina(current duty station) and Florida(military clause) resident permits.I wish they’d fix this thing, it’s a pain to figure out where I can carry so I just assume everywhere but the hippie states.
Mike A

I’m not doubting the map, but where is it found within each state’s records where that state recognizes the permit of another state? i.e. where did the official info come from to create this map?
JRedHorse

I really enjoy target shooting and I have invited gun-a-phobic people to join me at the range, most of them take me up on my invitation out of curiosity.

Once I get them to handling the fire arms (I teach them safety first & then how to shoot) I would say 75% of those I introduce fire arms to go on to buy their own guns within a year.

The other 25% enjoyed the experiance but didn’t have the desire to own one themselves but what always amazes me is NONE of them didn’t enjoy the experience of feeling the power the gun unleashed towards a target down range.

Most of them saved their targets and display them in their homes and offices, they are proud that they had a chance to see what using a fire arm is like and all of them were less gun shy when our visit to the range was over.

I learned not to argue with those who have never touched a gun but think they know all about the gun culture, I simply tell them, come shooting or shut your mouth!

I have taken young people out , old people, Republicains (Yup this is not a typo) Democrates, Native Americans, and every other kind of people, and it is always a good time.
I think actions are stronger than words and I may not be the greatest debateor on the subject of gun control but I am changing minds and mindsets one round at a time!
I start everyone off with rim fires, 22Lr, 22mag (Long guns) & 9mm , 22mag hand guns.
Shoot often, shoot well, shoot safe! ,
- WOP 2
  
  You are doing a service to those of us who choose to keep and bear arms, AND to the folks with hoplophobia (an unnatural fear of a firearm). Thanks, and keep it up.
slim

Isnt it federal law that all states must honor permits and licsenes from other states
- WOP 2
  
  Apologies for this rather long reply, but its crucial to understand why your marriage license and driver’s license are recognized by the States, but not necessarily you License to Carry Firearms.
  Yes, its called the 10th amendment, part of the Bill of Rights, coupled with Article IV, Section 1 of the Constitution. (see note at end of this post) If any portion of the Bill of Rights can be ignored, then so can any other. Only until the 1st Amendment right to freedom of speech is censored, will we see emphasis on preserving the entirety of the Bill of Rights.
  
  Firearms freedom legislation and federal gun laws nullification
  Starting in 2012, in response to a threat of law made through executive orders by President Obama, more than a dozen states around the US began proposing legislation that would “…declare that any firearms made and retained in-state are beyond the authority of Congress under its constitutional power to regulate commerce among the states”. The legislation would require that the firearm be prominently marked as being “Made in {name of state}” and further prohibit federal regulation solely on the basis that “basic materials” and “generic and insignificant parts” of the firearm may have their origins from outside the state.
  
  Through 2010, resolutions have been introduced in the legislatures of 27 states that would nullify federal authority over such local firearms. The legislation passed in Montana and Tennessee in 2009 and in Alaska, Arizona, Idaho, South Dakota, Utah, and Wyoming the following year.[12] South Carolina has taken the issue one step further: in 2010 a bill was introduced which would effectively nullify all gun registration laws within the state.[13]
  
  Texas has prefiled[14] and West Virginia has filed[15] similar legislation for the current 2011 legislative session.
  
  Reciprocity
  Many jurisdictions have established arrangements where they recognize or honor permits or licenses issued by other jurisdictions with comparable standards, for instance in regard to marriage or driver’s licenses. This is known as Reciprocity and is based on U.S. Constitution “full faith and credit” provision.[39] Due to the nature of gun politics, reciprocity in regard to weapons carry permits or licenses has been controversial.
  
  [39]^ Article IV, Section 1, “Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state.”
http://www.facebook.com/tattoosbybill Bill Mckay

Does anyone know if Pa and Va cancelled there resiprosity agreement
- WOP 2
  
  Bill:
  No, but the new Pennsylvania Attorney General, Kathleen Kane, is a shill for Bloomberg and for the Philadelphia anti gunners. She made a mockery of Florida non-resident permits held by Pennsylvanians who were denied. Some 4000 folks can’t get a License to Carry Firearms in their home state of PA because of an absurd and antiquated “character and reputation” clause in our law. Securing a Florida non resident CCW has been an easier path, albeit more difficult and much more time consuming and costly.
  AG Kane has unilaterally used her office to kill the recognition of Florida non residents CCW’s unless the Pennsylvania resident also has a valid Pennsylvania License to Carry Firearms.
  More to your question, Bill, while Virginia is safe today, only God knows what this woman will do to reciprocal agreements in the future. Keep yourself up to date, please.
Robert Suggs

According to the US Constitution, you shouldn’t need a permit period.
vince

why doesn’t anyone fight for their rights in Illinois?
http://www.facebook.com/norman.rea.1 Norman Rea

The problem have is a racist president who is anti America and has divided aNd labeled.We are all Americans. If you dont like guns,fine,but do not try to take mine away.
SKIPTORT

I HAVE PLENTY OF THOSE 3X5 CARDS,, FINALLY BE ABLE TO PUT THEM TO GOOD USE…..THANX 4 THE TIP….
MarkH55

I live in Georgia. I ride my Harley all around the country. I won’t be travelling through S.C. Virginia, West Virginia, Nevada, New Mexico or Ohio any more. When I moved from Florida to Georgia, these states don’t recognize my Georgia permit. What is up with these states (or Georgia)!
Rick.

Pa just rescinded it’s reciprocity with Fla. non-residence…anyone know why without making some dumbass remarks.?
- WOP 2
  
  O.K., here’s the straight skinny. First of all, Kathleen Kane, our new AG, has the right to enter into (and out of) reciprocity agreements. Why the legislature ever gave that to the AG’s office is beyond my comprehension. WE all knew she was anti-gun, but Soros, Bloomberg, and the Joyce Foundation poured a ton of money into her campaign, and of course the liberal dolts in Philly and Pittsburgh fell for it hook, line and sinker.
  Next step–for years, Lt. Lisa King, head of the License to Carry Firearms department in Philadelphia, along with Chief Ramsey and Deputy Commissioner Blackburn have routinely denied folks under Pennsylvania’s “character and reputation” clause. So, about 4000 folks spent the time, money (probably 150 bucks compared to 20 in PA), mandatory training (not required in PA) to obtain a Florida non-resident permit.
  Once the new administration got into power (the new AG) the Philadelphia coalition immediately clammored for her to kill the dreaded “Florida Loophole”. So, on her own, with no talking to the Legislature or the Governor, she came up with a rule that says—a Florida NON-RESIDENT permit is not recognized if the holder of the permit is a Pennsylvania resident, UNLESS said PA resident also has a PA License to Carry Firearms. So what do the 4000 do now? They have a short period of time to apply for a PA License to Carry Firearms.
  What you must know is that in the other 66 PA counties, the Sherrif issues the License. Philadelphia, our only city of the “First Class”, issues licenses through the Chief of Police–our anti gun ninny Ramsey. Truth be told, AG Kathleen Kane closed the Philadelphia loophole. The entire situation sucks, and PA House leadership is highly inflamed.
  Hope this qualifies as a “non-dumbass” remark Its long, but its accurate.
Louis

They need to update the map Maryland will now reciprocate pa va de and wv ccw as of October of 2012
- WOP 2
  
  Really??? Post the Reciprocity Agreement that Pennsylvania has with Maryland. If it exists, its the best kept secret on the planet. Unless you’re prepared to send us to an absolutely clear citation, don’t post crap like this. Maryland is still pretty much a Communist State.
  - cawpin
    
    I just tried looking it up to see if it was true. I found two things out.
    
    1. The website for Maryland code is terrible.
    
    2. They don’t seem to recognize any other states. I couldn’t find anything anywhere.
    
    BTW, I have no interest either way as I’ve never even been to Maryland; I was just curious.
http://www.facebook.com/barney.l.cornett Barney L. Cornett

This is ludicrous, if a person has a CCP in their Home State, it should be honored in the other 49 States! Americans made a severe mistake the day they quit Openly Carrying their Weapons! It was the Gun that Tamed this Country and ever since Americans stopped Openly carrying their Guns, not only has Crime risen, but the Liberal Left Wing Quislings, (who before 1945 would have never even tried to take away Americans Second Amendment Rights to Keep and Bear Arms) have launched an All Out War to not only take away our Second Amendment Rights, they are also trying to shred the rest of the Constitution of the United States of America!
Zeb Leech

Really a pain when you live in a town that straddles two states, one of which doesn’t accept the others ccw IE Portland Oregon / Vancouver Washington (where i’m moving)….. just standardize the whole thing, I have no problem jumping through some hoops and background checks. I am a legitimate law abiding citizen but cant carry in my state (IL, perhaps soon) because I do not wish to break the law. Does a criminal postpone his afternoon bank robbery because his ccw permit was denied? Highly doubt it….
Don

Effective March 4, 2013, Nevada no longer honors any Arizona permits. Headlines in Las Vegas Review Journal.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Wyman/100000081736428 Don Wyman

Please check the reciprocity between Wisconsin and Nebraska. I believe Nebraska now honors the Wisconsin CCW.
Pstalvey

I am a Delaware resident. Someone recently told me that a Non-Resident permit from Arizona along with my Delaware permit will allow me to concealed carry in every state except Maryland. He referenced this website when I asked where he got his info. I’ve used the map and cannot figure out how he got this info. Am i doing something wrong? Has anyone had any experience with this??
http://twitter.com/_Black_Feather_ Black Feather

As of July 1, 2012 Nevada recognizes Arizona resident CCW’s with full reciprocity. The map SHOULD be correctly edited to show this. As of date of this post, it does NOT.
http://www.facebook.com/steve.harper.1257 Steve Harper

If we get rid of the maggot politicians in shitcago and our parasite gov who has the destinction of having been voted the WORST GOV in the nation then Illinois would not be the bastard child of CCW
http://www.facebook.com/jonericbrantner Jon Eric Brantner

Why is Illinois black?
- WOP 2
  
  I assume you’re talking about the color of the state on the concealed carry map (he said with a big cheesey grin). Its black because black is usually associated with death. The right to keep and bear arms died in Illinois some time ago. You can mourn it, or support folks like Illinois Rifle. They are working hard to restore RTKBA. You are aware of McDonald v City of Chicago, right? All is not yet lost. By the way, when I’m in Chicago, I carry. I carry very discreetly, but I do carry. So do a lot of honest folks in Chicagoland. The city is a shooting gallery.
Tuvac

How do you find out if your city has the agreement with another city?
Joey

I lived in Arizona for 5 years and had a CCW. I now live in Ohio and my permit is not good here. Frome i’ve read and heard Arizona is the only state that Ohio doesnt recognize their permits. what a crock of sheet
- WOP 2
  
  Ohio does not recognize Pennsylvania License to Carry Firearms. Imagine that. We share a rather long border, but not the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Thankfully, my Utah non resident permit allows for carry in Ohio. Now if can just get Illinois on board, and eliminate that ugly black spot on the Concealed Carry Map.
GuyFromWyoming

I make it a habit to not hunt or travel in states that do not honor my permit. That’s why I will not travel to the west coast.
Wayne

New York State is a big joke. Just about every other state honors permits from New York but old Chuck Shumer who does not have anything to do with State law tells his buddy the governor to dishonor the permits from all other state. The real problem we have today with gun control is Chuck Schumer whthinks that he is God almighty and will have his way every where in the country. Well #@*** Chuckie!
Joey

I lived in New York almost all my life I move to Wisconsin Wisconsin honors New York New York doesn’t Honer Wisconsin I think that’s messed up I think if you get a CCW issue be good in all 48 states except New Jersey there messed up over there I should know I moved from New York to New Jersey before Wisconsin But I do agree they should be honored in all states is Stillpass the same test you Stillpass the same background Just everybody be safe
http://www.facebook.com/apollobmorelos Apollo Morelos

gun permits should be like driver license.
Larry

Hi from Mich want to care in Fla have cpl same thin as ccw
Larry

judge 12 or carer by 6
BBaker452

In Florida with a Mighigan permit. Florida allows carry int a Bank.ichigan no. Can I carry into a Fla Bank?
BBaker452

Michigan permit in Florida. Florida allows tazer,mace,6″knife. Not Michigan. Do I gwt extra rights in Florida?
Sailingwindward

It doesn’t look good for “Concealed Carry” being recognized outside the home, at least on the federal level. Below are 3 cases leaning toward that the “Right to Keep and Bear Arms” does NOT extend outside the home.

The Second U.S. Circuit Court upheld last November 27 New York State’s conceal carry law, which was very similar to Maryland’s in that it required a showing of “proper cause” to get a permit. The case was Kachalsky v. Westchester.

The 10th U.S. Circuit Court ruled on February 22 in Peterson v. Martinez and shot down a challenge to the state conceal carry law, which limits permits to residents. In a sweeping ruling, the Court ruled that there is no Second Amendment right to carry a concealed firearm in public.

The Fourth Circuit expressly avoided saying anything about the extent of the Second Amendment in the Wollard case, making the case unappealable to the U.S. Supreme Court. It simply ruled on March 21 that the state’s interest in protecting public safety and preventing crime justified the conceal carry permit law.

So far the ONLY case were “Concealed Carry” was recognized outside the home is the Illinois case below:

The Seventh U.S. Circuit ruled in Moore v. Madigan on December 11 that Illinois must enact a conceal carry permit law. It did so with a weak endorsement of the right to carry a loaded gun in public, saying that the Second Amendment “confers a right to bear arms for self-defense, which is as important outside the home as inside.”

If the courts can’t agree on this, we ALL need to contact our congressional legislators to enact law that clarifies the right to keep and bear arms extends outside the home and in public places.
- cawpin
  
  You need to read a bit more. The REASON the 7th US Circuit court ruled the way it did is because of the ruling from the SCOTUS in the Heller case.
  - Sailingwindward
    
    I don’t read anywhere in the Heller decision were they ruled on concealed carry being a 2nd amendment right. Maybe, it’s a different Heller I’m looking at?
UYH

screw the entire North East when did they withdraw from the USA ?!..I thought they were still part of the USA, NO?Part of California ?Illinois?? Funny, the states with the worst crime rates ( violent) are those that take away YOUR 2A rights..But those who take away your rights have the body guards etc ON YOUR NICKEL !!!! arrogant asses !! I don”t agree with having to Need a permit at all, I am a citizen ( not a subject) of the USA and my country wide permit is the 2A “shall not be infringed” It’s no wonder the government is the largest do nothing employer in the country, they invent these do nothing useless jobs!
PS.. They will not remove my weapon from MY dead cold hands– I will retake my weapon from theirs !!!! 18 trillion dollars and counting ..decided on your substitute currency ? ?
dwkc64

I’m not sure I understand the note for Wisconsin, do they or do they not accept a non resident minnesota permit?
Tonyidaho

Kind of ironic that Illinois is by itself highlighted in black. No, maybe just apropos
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Tony

Just wish I could move from State to State like drivers due! I have a Florida non resident and NY permit….Should be one permit through USA to cover sall states!
JMo

I think that the government is going about this all wrong. When a child picks up a knife in the kitchen you take it away from them and say “no”. Later, when that child is older you teach them how to use that knife safely and responsibly. Instead of gun control, I think when you purchase and register a weapon a class should be taken on safe use and more importantly how to handle a high stress situation with a firearm (ie middle of the night break in). The government wants to treat us children instead of educating us like adults. Just my opinion.
- cawpin
  
  “Instead of gun control, I think when you purchase and register a weapon”
  
  You say that like having to register a firearm is a regular thing. It isn’t. I will never live somewhere that requires me to register my guns.
  
  “a class should be taken on safe use and more importantly how to handle a high stress situation with a firearm”
  
  While I agree that training is very helpful and useful, it should in no way be required to buy a firearm. We are talking about a RIGHT here, not a privilege.
http://www.facebook.com/john.lee.1088893 John Lee

Concealed carry is not a 2nd Ammendment right. States grant their citizens permission to apply through laws legislators we elect pass. Be happy about this. We really don’t want others deciding for us. It is bad enough there are red/black states…glad I don’t live there.
- cawpin
  
  “Concealed carry is not a 2nd Ammendment right. ”
  
  Excuse me, but yes it is.
  
  …the RIGHT of the people to KEEP and BEAR arms shall not be infringed.
  
  RIGHT – If I have to explain this, there is no point.
  KEEP – This is what you do in your home. You have (keep) them.
  BEAR – This is what you do outside your home. You carry (bear) them.
cb69

how do you carry your weapon and ammo while traveling through states that do not allow concealed weapons permits ?
Like Illinois ?
- WOP 2
  
  Generally speaking, when transporting firearms THROUGH a state in your travels, for example, Ilinois and Maryland, so long as your UNLOADED firearm is in a locked container, inaccessible to the driver and passengers, and your ammo is in a separate locked container, you are good to go. Remember, if stopped for a traffic violations, many police officers are taught to go fishing. They’ll ask you if you mind if they take a look in your car. Your answer is always the same. “No thank you, officer, you DO NOT have my permission to search my car, my person, or any other occupants of this vehicle.” If they get pissy about it, tell them you have all day long, and as soon as they produce a warrant, you’ll comply with it. I just got back from Chicago, and felt absolutely naked without my handgun. There were, I believe, 9 shootings on Friday and Saturday night.
No

Open carry is a right!!!! What part of Shall not be infringed is confusing to you people? Do not concent to getting permits to have guns, or laws restricting your ability to own, or carry the gun!!!! Where is the resistance? You are not obligated to obey unconstitutional laws!!!
“16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256
No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law, and no courts are bound to enforce it.”
http://www.facebook.com/dennis.kohrt.1 Kohrt Dennis

This sounds like a Chinese “JIG SAW” puzzle to me !!! & GFNothing too.
USMC CPL.

How often does USA Carry maps update?
Swede

I live in Iowa, but am moving to Wisc in 6 mos. I was debating whether to get my CCW in Iowa now (with reciprocity in Wisc) or wait and get it later in Wisc. Would Wisc require me to reapply/reissue once I move?
- cawpin
  
  That would be dependent on Iowa’s laws regarding their permits. If there is any difference in the requirements or permit for residents vs non-residents, you’ll have to get a new one for Iowa anyway.
- http://www.facebook.com/tom.kopp.39 Tom Kopp
  
  When you move here, WI will no longer accept your Iowa (or any other permit) – if you live here, must have WI license.
  - Swede
    
    Thanks for the info Tom.
Me

I was under the impression that non-residents in the state of Florida who legally hold a permit of their state of residence were allowed to carry in Florida as long as they abide by all of the rules set forth in Florida. Is this incorrect?
- WOP 2
  
  I hate to answer with “it depends”, but you must go to the Florida website for concealed carry, or to USA Carry’s map, and see if your home state License to Carry is recognized in Florida. The links are at the top of this page.
angie

Well im from illinois and I say we should be able to conceal carry, that will make these criminals think twice before they do something, because the police here is as bad as the criminals. I’ve called them twice, and they didnt show up untill 35+mins.
michael huffer

I wil not be going to any of the state s that are not in blue
JIM

ARE WE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ???
OR ARE WE THE 50 STATES OF AMERICA. THE LAST TIME I LOOKED AT MY MONEY IT SAID THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WHY DOES EVERY STATE HAVE A DIFFERENT LAW. IF WE ARE FREE COUNTRY WHY DOES OUR GOVERNMENT TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE CAN NOT ARE WE BECOMING A COMMUNIST COUNTRY…
- http://www.facebook.com/anthony.guthrie2 Anthony Guthrie
  
  I agree…total B/S that we cannot ALL agree on the Right to carry good for ALL states and the federal lands one ONE PAGE!!
Carlos

I really wish we had a LICENSE that id valid in the whole Country .
- WOP 2
  
  And I wish that, just like Alaska, Arizona, Vermont and Wyoming(?) that all non prohibited persons may carry a concealed firearm anywhere they may lawfully be. I can live with certain exceptions, such as Federal Courthouses or the sterile area of airports, although I’d rather not have those restrictions either.
Don

Live in Vermont were the gun laws are very lax. I find that to be a very good thing. I’m able to carry concealed I am able to carry my pistol in tne open and not feel like a lepper for doing so. I like with about 50000 acres of fields and forests in my back yard ego I ran go play till my hearts content. If you just keep leheay
And saders off of our back we should be fine……..what a couple of jerks
Joe

PA no longer accepts VA non resident permits
Rock

According to our CPL instructor, this map is totally wrong! Now what? From MI.
- WOP 2
  
  I’m not a member of USA Carry’s staff, so I don’t have any skin in the game. If I had an instructor tell me that anything was totally wrong, I’d have to question how hard he looked at it. You might want to ask him what part of “total” is wrong. If he still insists the entire map is wrong, perhaps he’s giving you horseshit advice on other issues? I’m always wary of those that denigrate the work of others.
hbsantana

I just retired from fort Campbell, KY. I am moving to NYC, I am thinking about locking my weapons in PA, because of the strict gun laws… I have M4 colt 16″, .308 21 inch sniper riffle, xdm 3.8 9 mil… What you guys think, I should do
- WOP 2
  
  First and foremost, thanks for your service. I hate to ask the Mr. Obvious question, but is NYC a certainty for you? I know when I retired after 20 in the Air Force, I had to find a job, and I spent the rest of my working years in Pennsylvania, and still live here. Does your prospective employer have a branch office in PA? So far as locking down your weaponry in PA, so long as its with a trusted friend or family member who is not a “prohibited person”, you are well within Commonwealth law here in the Keystone State. Its too bad you’re moving to the land of Bloomberg and Cuomo. Those two are batshit crazy.
jim

There should be one standard class so you could carry every wear its legal.
http://www.facebook.com/bill.adams.5855 Bill Adams

Bob from Ohio, I agree – if your state issues a permit than it should be legal in all states nation wide – period, same background checks, its all about the fee’s each state charges.

states just simply want you to bow down and kiss their back sides and say yes master.
OZARK

How is it legal under federal law that New York state has the right to cut me off from transporting my semi-auto weapons from going to the great state of Maine?
- WOP 2
  
  Under Federal safe transport laws, so long as your firearms are unloaded, in a locked container not accessible to the passengers and driver, and all ammo is in a separate locked container, also not accessible, you can travel through New York from another State on your way to Maine. Similarly, if you are a New York resident keen to leave the State, the same rules apply. Just be cautious that the State you are traveling to doesn’t have some sort of draconian laws.
http://www.facebook.com/dbrow6272 Dan Brown

Bob is correct. If you have a permit in one state it should be honored in all states. They do a background check on you not only when you apply for your CCW but also everytime you buy a firearm from an FFL. I agree. All they need to do is have each states Department of Public Safety, or what ever it may be called in your state sigh the agreement with the other state. It is the states that hold this back.
Ken

Bob – States` Rights must be protected and the 10th Amendment is doing just that. It would be simpler but I don’t want Washington dictating that I can have a gun (2nd Amend) but not carry a gun per some liberal regulation or Presidential Order.
- cawpin
  
  The 2nd Amendment doesn’t guarantee only that you can have (keep) it, it also guarantees you can carry (bear) it.
Jerry

After reading a lot of the comments between American Conservatives and Liberal Democrats I can only say, to the liberals, one day you may need a gun toting conservative to get your ass out of a jam. The only people that are so eager to trample on your rights are those that either have no idea what it means to fight for liberty or have NEVER been in a situation that requires the use of deadly force. I will never understand how people think that the police will always be there to protect them when on average their response time is over twenty minutes. Its not their fault but they have limits and their limits could mean the difference between your families survival or their deaths. I’ll Dr. William Petit, of Connecticut, wishes he had the opportunity to own a weapon in 2007. He lost his family, two Beautiful Daughters and his Wife to two Unarmed Criminals looking to make an easy score.
I have been in those life or death situations many times and I can tell you they Always come when you least expect them and its a Hellava feeling to hear someone tell you they are going to kill you and you have to make the decision to either fight or die. God has always been on my side and its heartbreaking to hear of the many times people lose their lives like the 20 kids and adults in Connecticut. But the world we once knew has changed and its no longer safe to take the meek and turn the other cheek. Politicians have no idea of the situation of the average American since Taxpayers have provided the means for them to have the very best in protection. Americans better make up their minds which side of the fence they want to sit; the unarmed CONTROLLED AMERICAN or the ARMED FREE AMERICAN>
have the best protection have
Tanner from Georgia

What If I just want to carry it in my car (for a road trip) and don’t plan on carrying it?
Paul gibat

I drive an 18 wheeler and have a ccp, can I carry my weapon with me in my big rig?
John

My state has reciprocity agreement with another 38 states… that’s enough for me. States that don’t accept my permit I don’t visit, so I don’t spend my money where me and my freedoms are not respected and welcome.
http://www.facebook.com/mike.lewis.3720190 Mike Lewis

Do what you feel that you have the right to do. Let your conscience and the Constitution be your guide. Treat anyone who tries to suspend, or remove those rights like someone guilty of treasonous activity. Act accordingly. Breathe in deep, hold it in… savor it, you’ve just done your patriotic duty…. Against ALL enemies, foriegn or?? ? Class? Class? Anone listening… Yes, Joey? DOMESTIC! !! Thats right!!! If this catches on, we’ll have our country back in no time!

Well, okay not our country… I mean the one we stole from the people who taught us how to live and survive here. We did make up for that though, we forced our loving god on them so that they would have good morals like us . Then we herded them up like cattle , killing the one who got out of line and put them on this great piece of land out in the place we’re nothing grows. That land is theirs though and they can do with it as they please.
CarryPermit2

WoW! A lot of New York bashers got these northeast communists going! Now that is funny. I actually lived there and figured it out and left. I didn’t lose anything there and if I did you can have it. Pretty funny how New Yorkers always defend everything they know nothing about. I too believe that you are brainwashed, if you weren’t then you would figure out the your extremely high taxes pay for the city. Try moving out of that hell hole for a while, you might just wake up to reality. Although New York is beautiful for 4 months, I wouldn’t live there just because my daughter does. Oh, that’s right, my daughter does live in Upstate New York! Since you voted Hillary into the Senate, maybe you idiots will try to replace the idiot Obama with her! Yup, another thief amung thieves, she should be in prison. My mom came from Canada and My dad from Syracuse, all of my relatives live there, most of them left, that tells you something! And another thing, I don’t know what states just give you a permit, but I had to go through the exact same thing in TN as written in this blog for NY. What really sucks about that is I am retired Army and still hold a security clearance that didn’t matter, still had to do the fingerprints and background check. Maybe the northeast is in red for a different reason1
Bobby J

I see IL is black on the map. Can’t find a legend that explains it(?)
- WOP 2
  
  It means your right to keep and bear arms in Illinois is dead, thus the black funerial shroud. Last news I saw (today) is that a judge has ordered Illinois to institute a shall issue license to carry program, but Chicago is fighting like mad to get a carve out. Wunnerful! The one feckin’ city in Illinois you really need a gun, and they want to remain “independents”. Azzholes elected Rahm Emanuel. You get what you vote for, I suppose.
  - Pete Syracuse
    
    That ends soon. On May 31st 2013 both houses passed a concealed carry bill with a supermajority vote (veto-proof). A court order declared Illinois’ ban unconstitutional in December, and gave us until June 9th to enact legislation. The governor is expected to sign the bill by then, because if he tries to stall, Illinois becomes a constitutional carry state.
joe

I like to take my handgun when I travel, but going from state to state, one which recognizes and one that does not, what’s a guy to do? Take it anyway!!!!
- WOP 2
  
  Joe:
  Generally speaking, when travelling THROUGH a state with restrictive gun laws, you are saved by Federal safe passage laws. Simply lock your unloaded gun in a secure container not accessible to driver and passenger, and lock your ammo in a different container, also not easily accessible. Where you get your ass in a jam is if your final destination state has restrictions that are draconian, for example New Jersey or New York. It’s YOUR responsibility to know the laws on possession of a firearm, magazine capacity limits, and right to carry in the final destination state.
anonymous2112

Ohio and Nevada are a bunch of horses asses
- http://www.facebook.com/anthony.guthrie2 Anthony Guthrie
  
  Hey…I live in Nevada, and now ya got me wondering why you said that! My Nevada CCW permit works well enough for me……
Mark

I live in Idaho and just yesterday completed my enhanced concealed weapons license course that as of July 1st will allow me to carry in 40 of the 50 states. My guess is 8 states will be on the east coast with Illinois and California being the last 2.
- Dwain Meyer
  
  Better check the map. I looks like more than 10 won’t let you carry.
glock33

use spell checker!!
Michael

I don’t buy, carry, or conceal weapons. I use the Secret of Clear, a concealed unusual piece called the Force.
butt plate

Illinois, Chicago in particular, who won’t let honest people carry a concealed handgun
is looking for a way to curb gun violence……any ideas?
Marty from Illinois

I wish someone would show Steve in Flordia from New York that Illinois where I live is the only state that u can not get a permit to carry. Not New York.
vom brunhaus

Penna. Attny. General Democrat Kane, she has cancelled ALL Non resident permits in the state of Penna.
- WOP 2
  
  Are you certain? I know she killed Virginia, Arizona, and Florida for sure. Do you have a website I can look at to see when she killed them all?
Will

currently live in Arizona and have a CCW. Possible relocation to Texas next year. Does Texas have reciprocity for my CCW?
- cawpin
  
  Can you not click on the map? As for your Arizona permit, you need to check with Arizona to see if it will remain valid. You’ll, at the very least, need to update your address.
weasle94

What is the problem that MD and Mass have with a VA permit .When I received mine ,I had to have 40hrs of classroom, shot 60 rds right ,left handed ,kneeling ,barricade and shotgun with combat loading and some atm type drills and then go before a judge and have him sign off besides the fingerprints and background checks. I went through the ringer to get it 25 yrs ago and train regularly. Why cant other states recognize that I am not a crazy or dangerous person .I am handicapped and need to protect myself. In case no one has said it ,THE HANDICAP PARKING PERMIT IS A RED FLAG FOR PEOPLE TO TRY TO ROB YOU OF MONEY ,MEDICATIONS OR THAT YOU ARE AN EASY TARGET
matt

michigan lets you carry in the most states
Rick Case

Illinois land of the free if your a gangster, hoodlum or on obama’s security detail. Chicago birthplace of Al Capone and and the biggest mafia strongholds, yet if your a law abiding citizen you can’t protect your home, your family or protect your second admendment rights!
- PC1911
  
  Actually Al Capone neither was born in nor died in Chicago, only worked and lived there. He was born in Brooklyn New York and died in Florida. The house he owned however on the south side of Chicago is still there.
Tom Williams

Please update the concealed carry map. Illinois is finally able to shed the dubious distinction as the only state without concealed carry,
- Pete Syracuse
  
  Once it is signed into law.
Tony

You should be allowed to protect oneself and their familes in any state anywhere without exception that is what the 2nd amendment says, states not allowing concealed carry are violated the constitution and not allowing conceal carry especially for people passing through there state is illegal in my opinion.
- IpseCogita
  
  I agree, but I still stop and secure mine before entering the People’s Republic of California. Telling them it’s against the constitution won’t get you out of jail.
Curious

Can someone answer a question for me? I have a CCW in Michigan and am about to go on a trip to Idaho. i am a 53 yr old woman and i’m traveling with my 55 year old sister. Of course I want to carry my pistol, but I noticed that Illinois is a Right Denied state. Does that mean I can’t travel through Illinois while in possession of my firearm? Can it be locked in the glovebox?
- Pete Syracuse
  
  When are you leaving? Illinois finally passed a carry bill Friday. The governor needs to sign it by June 9th to comply with a court order. Once it becomes law, you can carry in your vehicle only.
- salvasaur
  
  Non-residents must be legally eligible to possess or acquire ﬁ rearms and ammunition. Non residents are not required to have an Illinois FOID Card. It is recommended that in order to be in compliance with all statutes, non-residents transport all ﬁrearms:
  
  1. broken down in a non-functioning state; or
  2. not immediately accessible; or
  3. unloaded and enclosed in a case, ﬁrearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container
  
  This is directly from the Illinois State Police brochure. If you keep it locked in the glovebox, it will have to be “broken down in a non-functioning state”. Even though this is within the law, I would advise against it. You could run into someone unfamiliar with this.
Jake from State Farm

Wow… FUCK Illinois! Talk about communists! They don’t even deserve to be considered part of the US.
LiveLaughLead

I moved to Texas from Oklahoma. I’m currently licenced to carry in Oklahoma. Although Texas accepts Oklahoma carry licenses. Whats the recomended steps and how long do I have before I’m required to switch my licenses over Texas Conceal to Carry License?
Jay

The map is incorrect, Nevada effective Feb 28, 2013 no longer has reciprocity with the state of Arizona. Please update to reflect current agreements.
- cawpin
  
  Correct. This was in response to changes that Arizona made in 2010 and 2011. Good job being on the ball there, Nevada. Douchebags.
OkieBob

I am confused. I have an OK CC license. When I travel to SC to visit my son that lives there and is stationed there, will my CC license be good? Or, will it only be good if I owned a piece of property there?
- James Parks
  
  Hi, Bob — Oklahoma has reciprocity with SC, and your OK permit will be valid here. The thing about having property is only if you are a non-resident and want to get an SC permit. When visiting SC, you don’t need an SC permit since you have an OK permit.
SoonToBeEx-NYer

I’m a CCW holder in NY, I carry a lifetime carry permit as well, oh wait, NOW it’s renew every 5 yrs due to the NY Death Act, and I can only carry 7 rds, and the cops & criminals can carry as many as they wish… I’ll be leaving the death state very shortly… I’m surrounded by idiots!
- Heartland Patriot
  
  Just remember, wherever you move to, don’t take anything of the New York political attitude with you. The “Free States” welcome folks who want to live a better life, but not if they are just going to come to another state and vote for the same kinds of things that got New York into the situation its in now. Other than that, I wish you the best of luck.
Michael

Under the Presidential order after 911 the President signed an order that allows for all full time, part-time, retired and active reserves to carry a weapon in any of the 50 states. Has this been resended or are we still allowed to carry anywhere????
Raul Oquendo

What I don’t get is all this confusion. You may carry here but not over there WTF. This is one country. You either allow guns or you don’t. Make it simple so everyone can understand.
wendell

Fathers Day weekend 2013. 7 dead and 30 injured in massive shootings all over the Chicago area. Did I mention that they have the strongest gun laws in the nation? What is wrong here??
- WOP 2
  
  Wendell-
  If gun control really worked, Chicago would be Mayberry, RFD. I’m not trying to be the least bit funny. What’s wrong is the demonization of the gun, when in reality, a particular socio-economic demographic has fallen off the map. Drugs, deadbeat dads, crack mommies, and some realization that Obama isn’t going to save them has led to desperation, and the certain knowledge that there are no consequences for their actions. In other words, the law abiding have no way to lawfully shoot back, and by force of arms, shock the lawless back into reality. Now, will I be labeled a racist, or simply chastized for using the same word “reality” twice in a post???
J.R.

Yep the black asshole of Illinois appears on the Map, I was born there and left at the ripe old age of 9 months, that was 63 years ago. lol
donnie

can you open carry with an concealed carry permit,like holstering while driving & stepping outside?
2Dogs1Name

How often is this map updated? Does it reflect recent changes?
indyrider1

I lived in Puerto Rico… disabled veteran… they do not honor our concealed carry
permit… yet we honor theirs… time to reel in the states that won’t allow us personal protection…. especially to a person that physically cannot defend themselves.. then we should revoke their right to carry in our state… see how it feels…. the world is not getting better…. they prey on the elderly … the young.. people with disabilities…. I should never have to risk being beaten and robbed… like I have experienced in the past…. if we honor theirs.. they should honor ours…. I would like to live in Puerto Rico… its a beautiful place.. with great people.. but like everywhere…. there is crime everyday….. I don’t want to be a victim again……. guns are unfortunately are a must have evil… out law guns… only out laws will have guns….. when they stoop to home invasions while you their.. then we must have a right to defend ourselves… when your driving and someone wants to break your window and take your car and beat you while their at it… I say…. Pro Gun…. our constitution guarantees it….. and concerned American…. note.. also take away guns… they will find a bigger and worse way to kill people…. their are some sick sick puppies out their… have we not thought about bringing back public hangings for people that want to kill innocent children.. elderly … or anyone…. a few public hangings in the square would most certainly curb some of this madness.. show a bunch of first time inmates what a man looks like hanging from the gallows .. they might think more than twice before they want to be their themselves…. just a average joe…
Rick.

You need to seriously review your non-resident NH permit as acceptable in the State of PA. I have reviewed the reciprocity agreement and do believe….you are NOT PERMITTED to carry in PA as a non resident NH ….imput?
- WOP 2
  
  We have a new anti gunner sitting in the Attorney General’s seat. Kathleen Kane has already killed Florida non-resident permits held by Pennsylvanians, and also non-resident permits held by Pennsylvanians and issued by Wisconsin, I believe. On the other hand, if you have a valid Pennsylvania License to Carry Firearms, are a PA resident, non-resident permits from other states are acceptable. Isn’t she nice? Look for Kathleen Kane to go on killing non-resident permits/licenses held by Pennsylvanians from other States with no opposition from Governor Corbett.
  - Rick.
    
    Yes indeed. I spoke with the attorney General’s office yesterday and requested a official interpretation of PA nonres. Position. I am afraid any CCW nonres. Who does not have a CCW from their resident State, will mo longer be safe I’m PA. I am NJ. With several nonres. From other states, NH. FLA. VA, Maine. Conn. None of these I believe are accepted anymore by PA. I will let you know after they get legal clarification. Doc.
    Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
    
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Kingman

Just a word to Carriers… I carry and receive frowns from the brainwashed folks that believe guns are too dangerous to carry and I live in Arizona! Yesterday a man was at the hospital and was digging in his pocket when his gun fell out and onto the floor. While picking it up he caused it to go off. He then panicked, ran out and drove away. My wife says the authorities caught up with him and gave him “a talking to”! This type of irresponsibility adds to the problem the public sees with CCW. Accidents do happen but I believe you should be held accountable for every bullet discharged. Don’t just put your pistol in your pocket, make sure it is holstered too, don’t be a fool!
Wizz

And any of you anti-gun folks moving to a “free” state better leave your voting habits behind. Amazing how many people move out of blue states like NY and CA due to high taxes/increased living expenses and then keep voting the same way that got them those high taxes/increased living expenses. Most of us carry a gun daily, you’ll just have to get used to it if you don’t like it.
smitpr

Let’s see – we need the gubermints permission to exercise our 2nd amendment rights. “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Does anyone see something very wrong here? My guns are there in part to protect my freedoms that they daily encroach upon.
Brian Bertha

I live in NY have had a CCW for over 40 years I have one for SC and another from AZ all I want to be able to do is legally travel from one to another PA just changed their laws so now I cant carry ridding thru their state its no only a PITA if you take the wrong road you can get in big trouble. Have hollow points (u know like what the DHS ordered 1.5 billion of) in NJ you wind up in jail. Bottom line I think the mere fact that a permit is required tells me its considered a privilege granted by the government vs a constitutional right. And that IMHO sucks and is unconstitutional so why do I have permits because I dont want to go to jail but thats still makes it plain wrong
- Buck Torre
  
  get a utah non resident you can carry in PA
  - WOP 2
    
    Buck:
    That’s true today, but until either the legislature or the Governor reels in Kathleen Kane, the Pennsylvania Attorney General, that Utah permit may be useless in Pennsylvania with no prior notice–just a stroke of her pen.
Buck Torre

how up to date is your map on recipro i also have a NY permit and a utah non res permit i dont wanna get screwed carrying where im not supposed to -frank0357@yahoo.com
J RauL

Wonder why is called “United States of America” ?? When we have a dozen states requesting separation from Statehood. Where Laws are “different” on most States.
Ed

Training Standard is the answer to the question of reciprocity.
If every state required the exact same level of training and knowlege, then the question of reciprocity would be mute.
Some states issue handgun permits on a cash and carry basis… Easier than driver’s license.
- WOP 2
  
  Ed:
  So, you’re willing to PAY for a Constitutional Right? What about Vermont, and Alaska–where there is no License or Permit required? Those two States, and others, believe in Constitutional Carry, as I do. We’re hoping to get it here in Pennsylvania as well. Training is a red herring, a boon for some instructors, a pain in the arse for citizens, and generally insufficient. Some states won’t require live fire, because of liability issues! For me, personally, training yes, absolutely, positively, and as much as I can get. MANDATORY training–never.
Diane Snow

good i’ll more than likely try to get my permit here then while i can before Barak hussien obama enacts the gun removal rights lol 😛 atleast i know what i’ll save for when i have time to go to local gunstore and see if i can get a permit through them and then go from their <3 if not im pretty much very close to the State police chief any way (mayor included 😛 )
Larry Bishop

If you are required to get a permit to carry a gun then you should be required to get a permit to vote. Gun ownership is a protected right and voting is not.
- cawpin
  
  “and voting is not.”
  
  Wow, dude, just wow.
- WOP 2
  
  Larry-
  
  There are Constitutional Guarantees regarding the right to vote. It IS a protected right. See the 14th Amendment, but more specifically the 15th, and also recall that women were not allowed to vote until passage of the 19th Amendment. I don’t like to so stridently call you out on this, but you are very much ill informed on the RIGHT to vote.
  - cawpin
    
    The 26th Amendment, in my mind, is what really guarantees the right as it is referenced there similarly to the way rights are in the first 10 amendments.
Gregg

The Constitution, Article IV Sections and 2 compel ALL sates to accept my Indiana permit. Why has this not been challenged all the way to the SCOTUS?
Roundup_Logan

I own a construction company and we travel the country all the time. It is an absolute nightmare to navigate across country and keep current on who accepts which license. I’m not sure it’s possible for a person to carry legally in all the lower 48 states being a resident in one state and traveling to all the others. So, does anyone know how a person can travel from the heartland (let’s say Kansas or Missouri) up to let’s say Connetticut or Maine without having to get 5 or 6 different permits? Is it even possible to obtain enough permits to be able to carry in all the lower 48 states? I currently have 3 different permits (1 resident and 2 non-resident) and still can’t traverse the continent with a loaded pistol. I’ve been subjected to fingerprinting, background checks, formal training, and have a squeeky clean background, yet I find myself an alien in my own country when it comes to self-defense and traveling by truck across the country. I’m totally against the federal government being involved, yet I find the state’s unwillingness to cooperate in reciprosity a complete nightmare. For instance, the fellow from New York who commented thinks that his state does it right and no other state’s permits should be honored in his state. ANYONE who’s issued a concealed carry permit in their state has gone through a background check, and has to be an upstanding citizen in his or her’s state to be issued the permit. Just because New York submits a 10-fingerprint card for an FBI background check doesn’t mean automatically their state has the best system. Both Kansas and Florida do the same thing – and guess what, New York doesn’t honor their permits. I find myself limiting travel through states which don’t honor the permits I hold. But back to my question: Can a person obtain enough permits so they can carry in all the states? Until that happens, we will remain divided on the topic.
JRS

So If have a permit to Conceal in the State of North Carolina driving to Wisconsin thru Illinois I have to separate and lock the firearm? Can I carry in Wisconsin or due to the Notes about Wisconsin I cannot carry?
W. Gene Simmons

A Permit in Ohio is good in Indiana BUT a Permit in Indiana is Not good in Ohio.. That is the dumbest crap I have ever heard…
Guest

can this be updated with the new Idaho enhances CCP?
- The Oracle
  
  If you’re incapable of original thought, at least copy it correctly.
Richard Nottingham

Can this be updated with the new Idaho enhanced CCP?
Blenard Rexha

I have a concealed carry permit and I will be driving thru Illinois state can I be able to carry my gun with me ?
- Pavel
  
  If IL does not recognize your state’s permit, then you cannot carry it with you. You’ll have to lock it up unloaded (gun and ammo in separate containers to be safe) before you even enter the state.
  - Tumbleweed
    
    Don’t stop in Illinois or give them any of your money! There is nothing there worth stopping for!
http://www.slaveryreport.com/ Eric Wright

So two states hate each other: Georgia and Virginia. I’m from Georgia, but a resident in Virginia. I got my concealed carry as a resident in Virginia, but Georgia doesn’t accept it. I’m sure as HECK gonna have my conceal carry in Georgia…so…is there any way to just have that transferred over? Especially since I’m prior military (less than a year out of service)?
D V Aguiar

This is a wake-up call. The problem with our country is not our government, it’s the people who have grown fat and lazy! We have a president who wants to change the face of our country and how is he doing it? He is using it’s CITIZENS. If “WE THE PEOPLE” want our old country back we need to wake-up the rest of the people and tell them to get off their lazy butts. Let your local and federal reps know that we mean business. Hold them to 100% accountability, no excuses. I admit it won’t be easy but our FOUNDING FATHERS also knew it wouldn’t be easy. We need to stand with our late FOUNDERS and show them we can win our country back! LORD HAVE MERCY ON OUR COUNTRY AND GIVE US THE STRENGHTH AND WISDOM WE NEED TO MAKE IT AMERICA AGAIN, AMEN
cozy659

My question On this map is as follows:
I understand a federal agent or Military personal can carry in Every state.
Or at least I would think they can,as these would be Federal Permits… How about Standard law Enforcement, State and or Local Police officers? example… NJ Does Not accept NY Permits and NY does not accept , NJ Permits. can off Duty officers travel between these states with Concealed weapons?
cozy659

Nevermind my last question… I looked deeper.. both NY and NJ will issue non-resident permits between them. So I guess they could….
P. Echols : NCCH Instructor

North Carolina now accepts all state permits if they issue one..
ozzy

States that have Home rule Charter laws allows cities to decide who can carry in each city/ county…. I used live in the state of Iowa, I was a Department of Transportation Enforcement Officer/ and also worked Private Security at the Same Time, I lived in Webster County Iowa, and had to Obtain My Professional Concealed Weapons Permit & range Qualifications from their Office, When I applied I was Denied a Concealed Weapons permit / due to a personal beef the Sheriff had with My Grandfather. My Bosses at the Iowa DOT and Private Security Company I was Working for had me go to the Polk County Sheriffs Office to apply and Qualify for my PROFESSIONAL PERMIT, Which I was issued the permit and was allowed to carry. Law Enforcement and Private security have stricter rules than REGULAR citizens when obtaining a Concealed carry permit, Law Enforcement & private security has to go through classes the covers Deadly Force, Vicarious Liability, and pass a written test, and score above 80 % on the written, and then they have to qualify on the range Yearly with a Score of 70 % or better. On the Back of every Law enforcements and Private securities Concealed Weapons Permit: It states ; Only allowed to carry while on Duty, Or in Uniform: so that is the Restriction Law Enforcement& private Security has to abide by…. Citizens Get their Permits too easy…..
Confused User

Confused by web page! If I click “Permits honored by state”, click on SC map is basically half-red, half-yellow (S.C. resident permits only). Now try “States that honor my permit(s)”, click KY (which was yellow a moment ago) as a KY resident, notice how SC is now blue (indicates SC will honor a KY resident permit). Which is correct? The first map indicates SC carry is basically for SC residents ONLY, second map indicates otherwise! NC maps show much better agreement, seems info for SC is messed up. Carry On.
Wayne Janousek

I do have a Concealed handgun license here in Texas as do many Texans. I will not submit to having my head bashed without protecting myself. I believe that if the person Zimmerman shot were of a different race and Zimmerman black, things would have played out differently. I don’t favor any particular race but can only look at all these type cases and see the trends. The black community seems to have a chip on their shoulder and ready to strike REGARDLESS of the circumstances of the incidence. That’s what the trends show me.
Stepcof

Why can I only see half the CCW map on my IPhone?
- Snappahead
  
  Phone is too small.
E

WY & NM now honor each others permits.
MICHAE

WHY NOT A FEDERAL CCW PERMIT ?
- guestimate
  
  That would be counter-intuitive since the Constitution never required ANY sort of permit, and asking for one already proves you no longer have the RIGHT, or that you are taking the law into your own hands by exercising it, and we all know how that goes.
Robert J Cline

I have obtained a Florida,Utah,& Maine handgun concealed carry permits.My question is that after I go over the bridge,can I carry in the city of Philadelphia? 856-767-8157 rjftcline08021@yahoo.com
Drew

Pennsylvania… $25 and a background check. Then ten minutes later…Permit! Open carry is legal without a permit also.
- WOP 2
  
  Drew-Its now 20 bucks. The 5 buck surcharge to upgrade the PICS (PA instant check system) sunseted in 2012(?) Still pisses me off that I have to pay for a right. See PA Constitution, Article 1, Section 21
  - keep calm and return fire
    
    Any right you have to ask to use or pay to use isn’t a right. It’s a privilege. And privileges can and often are taking away.
- Pavel
  
  Is that for non-residents too? I’m in NJ, but live 10 min from PA.
rpyne

How about updating Idaho. Idaho now has two concealed permits. The enhanced permit is now recognized by Nevada.
AvidShooter2

do I have to be CONUS (in the country) to file for my CCW permit? im stationed in Germany and my leave ends soon. im wondering if I can file the paperwork and then return to my duty station while it is being processed. also for the state issued firearms classes: I am actve duty. does that take the place of the classes? if not, do I have to take a general firearms course or is there an advanced course for military personnel?
- WOP 2
  
  Depends on the State. You should be able to get an intelligent answer from the proper issuing authority. Some States consider military service as “training”, such as Florida. Others (Utah) do not, and some (Pennsylvania) have no training requirement at all.
Mike

interesting… according to your map, my wisconsin permit is not honored in wisconsin
D.H.

I live in Florida and possess a Florida CCW and will be visiting the Alexandria/Arlington Virginia area and I know that VA has reciprocity with FL but I don’t drive and generally depend on public transportation so I was wondering if I can carry a .9mm concealed on WMATA MetroBus or MetroRail? I know that my CCW is not valid in the District of Columbia or Maryland so obviously I won’t be carrying then but I would like to while in Virginia because in the urban area I will be in.
Fred8

I have a CCW from my home state (NC). How do I defend myself when I am in California, NYC, Hawaii, or DC? Those locals do not honor my NC CCW, and they also do not issue permits to non-residents. Other locals either honor my NC CCW, or they allow me to apply for a non-resident permit (such as Oregon, or Maine, etc). I thought my constitutional right to bear arms was a “national” right, not a right that was restricted based on where I happen to be standing at any particular point in time. My free speech right doesn’t change from state to state; my right to a speedy trial doesn’t change from state to state; etc… So why is it that my right to bear arms changes from state to state?
- Charles_Higley
  
  Do those states have open carry?
  - Joe6957
    
    I used to live in New Jersey. There is certainly no “open carry” in either NJ or NY. Even concealed carry had to be justified by:
    1. frequently carry large sums of cash
    2. I am a doctor or pharmacist with access to drugs/”controlled substances”
    3. similar “special status” individuals.
    When going to a shooting range, gun had to be unloaded and carried in car trunk. I was AMAZED at Virginia’s “open carry” with no permit of any kind.
Dave Stump

A Shame that when I leave Virginia headed to Jacksonville Florida I must drive South West to Rn, then south to AL and the Panhandle of Florida, then east to Jacksonville in order to be legal because of Georgia. No more peaches from you, no more Love’s Seafood in Savannah. Va. and Georgia, work this ignorant crap out. We are the South Darn it and should band together again.
Jeff

Needs Updated.. Idaho has a new licence
Charles_Higley

Maine issues Non-Resident Permits to WV CC Permit holders. I have one.
disqus_oHbhrVpFTp

wish it would give you options for class 1 and class 2 info as ND has both Class 1 is good in 33 states and class 2 is only good in 22 (if not exact numbers real close)…so looks to show class 1 info :/
USACarry

We are working on adding the new Idaho Enhanced permit to the maps. We’re having to do a some reprogramming to get it working.
USACarry

Our maps are correct.

Georgia Accepts Kansas:
http://dps.georgia.gov/georgias-firearm-permit-reciprocity

And as of Aug. 1, Alabama accepts all other state’s permits.
USACarry

We are working on adding this to the maps. We have a bit of reprogramming to get it working.
USACarry

That is what our maps show.
Jeff

Jeff from Ohio,
I am traveling to South Carolina for a family visit tomorrow. I looked at the map, and I still don’t understand if I can carry in SC or not?? I don’t understand the restriction of non-resident/property owner? The way I read it, They won’t issue a permit if you don’t own property but if you have an existing out of state permit, you can carry? Am I correct or not? Thanks!
jeff

I am leaving for SC from Ohio tomorrow. I don’t understand the SC requirement of “property owner”. Does that mean that they do not issue you a permit when you don’t own property, but if you have a valid permit from an honored state, that you are legal to carry?
AnonyÓðinn

I live in California… am considering moving to Nevada. Depending on what happens after this next week (Governor is going to either sign or veto a bunch of bills – we hope he vetoes them) then there may be a LOT of Californians going to Nevada, New Mexico, or other state(s). Watch for the exodus if the vetoes don’t come through.
Colo

Colorado and West Virginia now have reciprocity
USACarry

Thanks. The maps have been updated to reflect this.
Tim

I live in SC and have a permit can I carry through GA.
- Gary
  
  At this time no. GA does not recognize SC
- Jamie Boo
  
  Tim, get the New Hampshire permit. Just fill out a one page application, a photocopy of your SC permit, and $100 and within 4 weeks you’ll have a permit that allows Georgia. It’s a little spendy, but the easiest.
DRey

Be careful what you wish for. Demanding that all states accept all other state laws means you really just want one federal government and screw the states. Founding fathers knew best. Best stick with the Constitution. It works both ways. Deal with it.
- cawpin
  
  “Founding fathers knew best. Best stick with the Constitution.”
  
  Yes, they did and that’s exactly what I would like to happen.
  
  The Constitution says, “The right of the people to keep (own) and bear (carry) arms shall not be infringed.”
  
  Every state agreed to follow the Constitution. Passing laws restricting the rights enumerated in it is not following it.
  
  This isn’t about states’ rights. It also isn’t about wanting one federal government. It’s about making the states follow the laws and regulations that they agreed to follow.
redscho

Born and brought up in upstate NY, back when you could sling your .22 over your shoulder and ride down main street off into the countryside to hunt woodchucks. Doing so now would bring out a SWAT team. Glad I escape that liberal cesspool and now live in the Peoples Free State of Florida.
sjdps

Who is NOT allowed to CCW in Massachusetts?
Nelson

Grew up in NY ( queens ) and always wanted to own a gun , but I couldn’t . Moved to Tallahassee , Florida 9 years ago ,and now I own a 40 Smith & Wesson, AR-15 , and I bought
Today a nice Ruger SR 45 . Love this State , and besides the fact that I can buy all the guns that I want ?
For some reason , I feel the people down here is nicer than the North. No offense to anybody .
Thank you

Nelson
- Jamie Boo
  
  People in the south are nicer than the north. I envy you. At least my state of Minnesota isn’t as bad as NY.
Brian from Oregon

Great site, thanks for making it. Exactly what i was looking for.
Dave

You may want to recheck New York. Never knew they would issue to out of staters. They are issue by the Counties that you live in…
Frank Finlan

Frank
I left NY over thirty years ago and live in Texas. I don’t know the laws of NY. Can I even bring my gun into NY? Yes, I have a CHL from Texas.
Mike

Still trying to figure out why if I click on Wisconsin, your software says my permit is not valid in Wisconsin… fire that software technician@
- USACarry
  
  This has been fixed.
brewerd

Stupid ass laws. If you have a permit to carry in state A that permit should be honoured by all states. This is what happens when incompetent politicians get involved running things. Buffoons.
- cawpin
  
  The 2nd Amendment guarantees the right to carry so a permit shouldn’t be needed at all.
wetdogs

X jersey here- moved to VA. because back home only gang members and the guy who breaks into your house have guns. Cops don’t do crap unless another cop is in need. 1911 on my side all the time and 12 Ga. by the bed never felt so relaxed in all my 56 years.
- Mike
  
  Yo! Wife has a Ruger LCR .357 Magnum and I have a Glock 33 .357 Sig. We both have CCHs. Good Luck, Mike in NC.
ingerson

didn’t potus say there were 57 states?
- WOP 2
  
  Yeah, but he’s a community organizer, not a geographer
  - ingerson
    
    darn – forgot that qualified him to disorganize the nation -c
brutaldeath1

Screw California, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Guam, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, New York City, Oregon, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island, Virgin Islands, Washington, Wisconsin, American Samoa, N. Mariana Islands

Sincerely, Florida
jazz

Thanks for the help guys
- nick
  
  Bitch
Joanne

Maybe we can carry our Bows and arrows! Lol. It’s a constitutional right to bear arms! It should not matter what state your in.
mike

Wisconsin permit not honored in Wisconsin? Great web site!
- USACarry
  
  This has just been fixed.
- Jamie Boo
  
  lol
Rich

S Carolina, Nevada and New Mexico now accept the Idaho enhanced concealed carry license. This is stated in document from the Idaho Bureau of Criminal Identification, Idaho State Police web site.
Terry

I am going to travel thru Maryland with a North Carolina concealed wepons permit what do I need to do if anything?
Rose Marylove

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USACarry

That’s what our maps show.
USACarry

That is incorrect. Read the very first line of the page you linked to:

In accordance with U.C.A. 76-10-523, Utah will honor a permit to carry a concealed firearm issued by another state or county.
sir swiftus funkellwerk

its all a game for $$$$
whit from IL

Your map feature is a great asset for educating everyone! Thank you. Keep up the good work.
Dave

Nevada, New Mexico, and South Carolina honors the Idaho Extended CCW; your map doesn’t have this provision nor does it list this in another area. A map that is incomplete is worthless.
Daniel Starliper Jr

how does one obtain a permit to carry in all 50 states?
- Laurence Almand
  
  You can’t. California, New York and New Jersey do not recognize the carrying permits of any other state – in direct violation of Article IV of the Constitution. (Not exactly sure, but I think the only people who can carry guns in all 50 states are FBI and CIA personnel.)
Buck

what state permit is recognized in the most states?
- Laurence Almand
  
  I believe Florida ccws are recognized by the most states. According to the TRAVELERS GUIDE TO THE FIREARM LAWS OF THE FIFTY STATES, the following states recognize ccws from all other states: Kentucky, Idaho, Indiana, Oklahoma, Arizona, Tennessee, Missouri, Utah, South Dakota, Michigan, Alaska and Vermont. (NOTE: Technically, according to Article IV, Section 1, of the Constitution, “Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State…” Which means that drivers’ licenses, marriage licenses, and legally issued ccw permits, must be recognized by all other states. Tell that to the Commie jerks in California and New York!)
Jimmy

I live in SC and will be going to Florida. Can I legally carry through GA?
tanker

Gents, Ladies, people who fear firearms are a waste as far as reason. Reason is based on experience and logic and fear is neither, whether it is spiders, snakes, or firearms. To attempt to talk or reason someone out of their fear is an uphill battle, at best, and waste of time at the worst. I assume that it is the latter, like trying to teach a pig to sing, so I seldom try. Also, some of these rubes just like to get a rise out of those who believe differently than they do. Still, I am glad that we are not all thinking alike. But one point I wish to make is the American Psychiatric Association (or whatever its name) agrees that at least 1% of U.S. population is certifiably, violently insane, yet less than 900,000 are in asylums. Now, our last census was what, 250 mill? What’s wrong with that picture? The Fed. gov. made a “least restricted environment” law, which turned much of the population or asylums out. The basic criteria were based on availability of drugs which could control their violence and their ability to function among “normal” people. So, does it take a Ph.D to realize that when the drugs aren’t taken, the person turns violent again? Evidently, or our stupid Congress would not have passed the law. As for spelling, it is not a sign of intelligence, however it does show an ability to memorize, apply basic, although often incorrect rules, and exceptions to those rules. It tends to make a person, at least from my perspective, look more educated and insures that understanding of your thoughts will be more likely. I was a teacher who graduated when requirements were more strenuous than they have been since 1970. I graded essays by grammar usage, spelling, punctuation, continuity of thought, and other basics of writing. Now, anything that is considered mechanics is not emphasized in most schools. In reviewing the requirements for an 8th grade certificate in the 1890’s, I realized that I may have had some difficulty as a graduate in 1966, although some of those difficulties would be due to a change in terminology, geopolitical changes, etc.
- Telemachus_1
  
  what the hell does any of this have to do with anything on this website, let alone this page? Go back to the nuthouse!
  - hungryHippo
    
    It’s called philosophy, you simple-minded moron. And who gives a fuck what page it’s on?
- hungryHippo
  
  Well, as I posted earlier, I grew up in a town full of people that would quake at the sight of a gun. It used to scare me a little if I happened to be in Virginia and saw a sidearm. But this is simply due to the way I grew up. The idea that people who have an ‘irrational’ fear of guns can’t be taught otherwise is rediculous. A simple lesson in the ‘reality of life’ such as someone breaking into your home and raping your wife in front of you and then killing her would probaby handily do the trick in convincing that man of the value of a quality handgun. I know it would ME!
tanker

There is a blog or information location on a place that is termed “The Georgia Stonehenge.” I invite you all to read it, then meditate on it. If you don’t become scared, you better. The rules/guidelines it shows would naturally follow if the first rule was a reality. The first rule states: “Limit the Earth’s population to 500 million.” Great, now what government clown(s) make the decision who lives and reproduces? Believe me when I say that our planet’s governments aren’t run by themselves, but by wealthy elements which include such people as Elizabeth II, and Soros, to name two. They would love to see the worldwide return of a medieval type society where a few were on the top and the rest supported them. Don’t believe me? Then, what does Lizzy do to help anyone? Does she pay taxes, especially the inheritance tax which has hurt so many others? No, on both counts.
Laurence Almand

Article IV of the Constitution states: “Full faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.” If a state must recognize the drivers’ license of other states, it must also recognize the CCW license – but tell that to New York and California.
RockheadGT

I am in the process of getting a suppressor. The paperwork and $200 check have been sent to the BATF&E. Once I take possession of it I will no longer be able to move to several states, NY, Calif, etc. It’s like I won’t even be a citizen anymore. I have a total hearing loss in one ear from a cholestoma and some in the other due to submarine engine room noise. Using a suppressor will reduce the sound level by about 30 db, just about the same as a good pair of ear muffs. Tell me again why I shouldn’t have one.
- GonzoI
  
  Because a congressman saw a scary bad guy in a spy film use one once. Your hearing isn’t as important as congress members feeling safely assured that you’re not an agent of K.A.O.S.
cali

i hate this….
tx chick

ok, so my state is texas…….
I want to drive up to the canadian line, and it looks like I’m CLEAR, cause every state from here to there
honor my permit? right?……….just need a road trip on this extended weekend from work. 4 days. or maybe
just to mount rushmore?
Stan Hanna

I moved from NY 12 years ago, now live in Arizona. Went thru the 5 day course with flying colors, after being in the Navy for 3 years, UDT ! Got my CCW, that if I showed my dd 214 , would not have to take the course. Arizona changed the rules, a few years ago, now an 8 hour course is proof that you , if passed, could get the CCW. ! As a year rounder , most States will allow one to go thru the States with in 24 hours to where you are going to, as long as your fire arm is broken down in a locked box ! There are States that will allow you to only carry open and States that will allow you to carry hidden ! Before any of you wish to go any where in this Country, please call the Sherriff’s of each County and State you are going thru, to ask the laws where you are going thru first ! Get the name of the officer you talked to on the phone, and record it in a note book for each State, This could save you a ticket and stop the removable of your fire arm, or worst case, a trip to the Judge !
charlydog

its all crap with what it takes toget a cwp in new york it shud be good for he whole country
- monkeycmonkeydoo
  
  screw NY. the reason it’s difficult is so they can keep the “common folk” from carrying firearms, it has nothing to do with ensuring competency or safety. Short of being politically connected getting a NY permit is about like winning the lottery. I don’t see why any state would trust a cwp holder from NY, odds are they’re a greasy politician or they’re friends with one.
Devil Dude

Glad you pointed out the FAIL in his post..!

“Before any of you wish to go any where in this Country, please call the
Sherriff’s of each County and State you are going thru, to ask the laws
where you are going thru first !”

LOL! Cool story, Bro! Thanks for the laugh!
- hungryHippo
  
  Really? The cops in the great state of Texas (yes, TEXAS!) were randomly stopping people the other day to SWAB THEIR MOUTHS for DNA! What if they inadvertently found a firearm in the car as well? So, yeah, it’s Texas, but they are already violating these folks 4th Amendment rights, why not the 2nd!? DevilDude, your a fool. I’m hearing those jack-boots now and you guys on here are going to need a LOT more than a handgun to protect yourselves! You might start with the thing inside your skulls!
  - Devil Dude
    
    “DevilDude, your a fool. …You might start with the thing inside your skulls!”
    
    Had you had *anything* inside **your** skull, such as even a single brain cell, you would have enough intelligence to know the difference between “your” (a possessive pronoun; Example: “Your parents are brother and sister, aren’t they?) and “you’re” (the contraction of ‘you are'; Example: “You’re not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?”). But alas, as the uneducated low-information, tin-foil hat wearing product of Uncle Dad and Aunt Mom’s all-in-the-family unnatural lust for each other, your (see how I used it properly here, Sparky? empty little head needs to once again repeat second grade…Maybe the fifth time will do the trick..?
raytracer

Nevada no longer honors Missouri. They dropped several other states as well, I believe.
randy

First of all, why should we have to pay for our constitutional right? I agree with Bob, if you have a carry permit it should be for all states.
Ron

You people crack me up with your boo hoo stories. I’m from Illinois…. we have very few rights. I just finished my CCW class, and live fire. Now just waiting for them to repeal the law, and take that away from us too. I can legally carry in 40 states, but not in my own front yard…….. CHICAGO SHOULD FALL INTO LAKE MICHIGAN….. or maybe become their own little screwed up state, and leave the rest of us alone.
hungryHippo

And you were a school teacher of our CHILDREN!? OMG! …jus kiddin. thx for serving.
Kenworth

I am a resident of Indiana – what bugs me is… Indiana has a two tier process for issuing firearm permits… One locally and one on the state/federal level. I am an ex-police officer and field training officer with extensive firearms training, but I STILL had to go through the whole process of getting a firearms permit once I left the department (I was given no special treatment just because I was a police officer). The reason some states will not reciprocate is because they feel certain states do not meet what they feel to be an in-depth background check, or do not meet what they feel is their idea of quality firearms training. I can tell you, Indiana is just as in-depth as most states that do not reciprocate with us. I can’t use my permit in say – Ohio (who does not reciprocate with Indiana) – even though I’m an ex-police officer… I KNOW some people who live in Ohio that have permits – that – by my own experience, should NOT have an Ohio permit (or any state), but they do… But MY experience and permit is NOT valid in Ohio. My point is, there is no perfect way of determining who should or should not have a firearm permit, or what states should reciprocate with which other states. My personal feelings are, if you have a clean background, and have attended at least a 10 hour firearm training course, certified through the state, you should be able to get a “National Firearm License”… Meaning you should be able to carry your weapon to defend yourself and your family in ANY state in the United States! If you have no criminal history, and have attended some firearm safety training, the right to self-preservation by whatever means, should not be dictated to us by ANY state or federal agency – Period! Now before anyone gets all huffy and starts that ape-like bowing out of the chest about firearms training, let me just say, from MY experience as a police officer, MOST of the accidental gun related injuries or deaths I investigated over the years were due to inexperienced handlers, or an owner who left his/her weapon readily available to children or a home invader. Most people may not need any form of training, but there are some who could use it… How do you determine who has the experience necessary and who doesn’t? Documented proof – that’s how. If you attended any sort of safety course and have a certificate, you wouldn’t need to attend it again to get a permit. OR, if you’re military, law enforcement or ex-law enforcement or military, you too should not have to attend a safety course again to get a permit… I’ve NEVER seen a accidental firearm incident when the owner was properly trained.
- cawpin
  
  I’m not even sure where to start with this…so here we go.
  
  “Indiana has a two tier process for issuing firearm permits… One locally and one on the state/federal level.”
  
  No, they don’t. First, there is no “firearm permit” in Indiana. There is a “License to Carry a Handgun” which, from the topic of this page, is what I assume you’re talking about. Second, there is no tier system regarding the state and federal government. The federal government isn’t involved in the issuing of the licenses other than their criminal databases probably being used to check for a disqualifying criminal history.
  
  “I am an ex-police officer and field training officer with extensive firearms training, but I STILL had to go through the whole process of getting a firearms permit once I left the department (I was given no special treatment just because I was a police officer).”
  
  This sounds like you think you SHOULD be given special treatment just because you were a police officer. You shouldn’t; we don’t live in a class-based society. Also, you can get a nationwide permit/license through an HR218 ID card if you are retired law enforcement, so your point is moot.
  
  “I can tell you, Indiana is just as in-depth as most states that do not reciprocate with us.”
  
  The only thing that would comparable is the background check since Indiana has no training requirement. That is the main sticking point with other states that do have a training requirement. Even then, Indiana’s background check for the License isn’t as in depth as it once was and, as such, doesn’t even meet the requirements for bypassing a NICS check when purchasing a firearm.
  
  “My personal feelings are, if you have a clean background, and have attended at least a 10 hour firearm training course, certified through the state, you should be able to get a “National Firearm License”… Meaning you should be able to carry your weapon to defend yourself and your family in ANY state in the United States!”
  
  Well, your personal feelings are ridiculous. The license/permit at the national level is the 2nd Amendment; that’s all that should be needed. You don’t have to get a permit or license to exercise any other rights and certainly not any of the others in the Bill Of Rights.
  
  “How do you determine who has the experience necessary and who doesn’t? Documented proof – that’s how.”
  
  Yes, documented proof that you are in the US legally. Again, that is all that should be needed.
  
  “OR, if you’re military, law enforcement or ex-law enforcement or military, you too should not have to attend a safety course again to get a permit… I’ve NEVER seen a accidental firearm incident when the owner was properly trained.”
  
  Again, you’re trying to create a separate class of people and trying to benefit yourself in the process. Police, and specifically in Indiana since I’m familiar with the state’s requirements, aren’t trained nearly to the level they should be and the vast majority are far below individual citizens that have chosen to get training. And, if you haven’t seen an accidental discharge from somebody that was “properly trained”, then you haven’t been around firearms for very long. It happens even to the best.
  
  Training is great for those who have the opportunity, myself included since I have, but it most certainly should not be a requirement to exercise a right. Even though I’ve had the training, I will fight against anyone who says somebody shouldn’t have the right, regardless of my personal feeling about that particular person.
CrazyHungarian

What is the best combination of non-resident CCW State licenses to have? That is if you like to travel a lot.
- WOP 2
  
  I’d start with Utah, one that I am familiar with, and work from there. Note-if you a Pennsylvania resident, our Attorney General, has already killed recognition of most non resident licenses, including Florida and Virginia, for PA residents. Let me be clear as a bell on this, or I’ll get scorched by some folks who understand how this all works. I AM a PA resident. Therefore, according to the most recent PA Superior Court challenges, any non resident permits or licenses from other States are NOT recognized in Pennsylvania. My Utah permit IS recognized outside of PA in all of the States shown on the map for non resident reciprocity. To carry here in Pennsylvania, I MUST have a Pennsylvania License to Carry Firearms. (yes, I do have one.)
  - CrazyHungarian
    
    Thanks. Unfortunately I am (for now at least) a resident of gun-hating Maryland. There is a Utah course available locally, so I’ll look into that.
    - WOP 2
      
      MARYLAND! Ouch. They are a pain in the ass. When we travel South, we’re stuck running through a small distance in Maryland. I tell everyone to stop before the MD border, secure arms in a locked device and ammo in another, and reload after exiting Maryland. Since you are not a PA resident, your Utah permit is good here in PA. Check the map. South Carolina for whatever reason is not gun carry friendly.
suebrowcounty

Does the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act apply to all 50 states?
Charles

How do I find out which states allow open carry?
DAN

I have a florida,and Utah permit,when I check to see who honors them ,ark. lights up greenas well as florida and Utah what does that mean?
Art

This is just an update for ppl. AZ CCW logged into the system 7/30/13. As of 12/5/13 they are still processing permits recieved 6/19/2013. That makes it almost a 10 month turn time.
U

you can only be responble for your self
U

Alan Buffalo NY when you do wrong you should be charge not who you is every body should get a chache to carry a ccw when they mess up then thats them and the case you said i don’t wont some one with a bad heath issue then you should not have your ccw eatheir
- cawpin
  
  What? Proper grammar goes a long way.
George Zimmerman

Every guy should be allowed to put a gun in his woman’s mouth.
Laurence Almand

According to Article IV Section 1 of the Constitution: “Full faith and credit shall be given in each State to the public acts, records and judicial proceedings of every other state.” Do you wonder why the Demo/Leftists are trying to destroy the Constitution?
Rifleman1776

Good site with good information. I appreciate it being here. However, I am pretty much a 2ndA hardliner. Even though I have a permit I rankle at the idea we need one at all. What ever happened to the principal “inalinable right to life……”?
NickinChicago

If you check the resident, Illinois cc, michigan and a few states show up as reciprocal. Illinois new law has NO reciprocity and therefore the addition of Michigan (I already have my Utah and Florida non-resident) is an error.
JustJack

If your permit does not allow you to carry concealed in a particular state, the Second Amendment allows you to Open carry instead. If we all did that there would be a quick adjustment to allow the concealed carry.
Hank Rockwell Jr

I love living in Utah.
Carl

I have a GA carry permit, but need to be able to carry in SC. Other than getting an SC permit, is there anyway I can get a non resident permit from another state that has reciprocity with SC ?
Jeff

Just got card from Centre County Sheriif that my Non Resident Pennsylvania LTC will expire Jan 19, 2013. I didnt know I had to appear in person to renew license and do not want to travel 253 miles to Bellefonte. Does anyone know of any friendly sheriff offices that will renew my license. I am coming from NY.
Thanks
Jeff

Feel free to email me. firefighters510@aol.com
Gregg Macklin

Article IV Sections 1 and 2 of the US Constitution CLEARLY states that ALL states are REQUIRED to honor all CCW permits issued by another state. My questions is when is this fact going to be challenged in the SCOTUS once and for all
- olcurmudgeon
  
  clearly it doesnt say anything like that.
  - Gregg Macklin
    
    Really?
    Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
    What part of the above is unclear about State B must honor the public acts, records etc. of State A?
Onteo

My question is since I’m a non resident holder of Utah and Florida , do other states recognize non resident holders or resident
- Doug Belt
  
  Your nonresident permits from Utah and Florida are honored in Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming. But you must NOT be a resident of any of these states or your permits will NOT be honored in your/that state.
Alan

AlanBuffaloNY – Here in colorado we also have to provide fingerprint cards and in my county because the sheriffs are the issuers it is now taking about 90 days which is the limit. At least the current sheriff where i live is a real Shall issue one.
DaSarge

Ya know people, I really wish that this site was brought up to date with today’s date in terms of my state’s permit changes and additions. Idaho now has TWO different permits, the Basic CCW and the Enhanced CCW. The Enhanced CCW is accepted in Virginia, South Carolina, New Mexico, and Nevada. West Virginia also changed some statutes this past year that now causes the state to accept Idaho’s Basic CCW. Idaho’s new permit was inaugurated back in September. And also, Washington State is considering reciprocity between our two states. That’d be a great state of affairs for us all!
Robert K. Tompsett

I live in Michigan, and I want to carry on a trip through Indiana, Illinois, to Missouri.
- WOP 2
  
  Robert–If its legal for you to carry in your home State, and in the State of you final destination, you may carry in both. If you have reciprocity in Indiana, you can carry. Ilinois has no provision just yet for carry. You may, however, use Federal safe passage laws in Ilinois by locking your gun in container, not accessible to driver or passenger, and placing your ammo in a similar locked container. Its up to YOU to make absolutely certain that YOU know the laws in each State you travel through. No 2 States are exactly alike.
Glen Moorehead

Does Michigan issue a non-resident permit?
Answer: NO They only issue to Res.! That is bullshit because it is recognized and hasd resiprosity with more states than any other permit!!!
wayno

why don’t everybody do what Kansas and Alabama has done everyone who has a legal permit can come to these states talk to your attorney general to make your states the same
James Locke

What’s with South Carolina? They don’t honor nearby states CCW permits.
Steve Crawford

Conceal Handgun License/permit should be like a State issued Driver license that is good in ALL States. This is something that the NRA should work on. However, the NRA should support laws that inhibit sales or purchases of firearms at gun shows, and to those that have been deemed mentally ill or have suffered emotional illness. The NRA and its members must work with States and the Federal Government to keep firearms from those that should not have them. They should also support states to make gun owners responsible for unlawful use of their firearms by others, by not having them secured.
Gary McMiller

I have a Washington concealed carry permit and I’m in Newark nj the killing is crazy but I can’t even carry my gun it got to be in the house but the killings are happening outside how can I protect my self without getting in trouble this is crazy man
Aubert Modeste

Why
Aubert Modeste

Why are my comments vanishing?
mnmike

yakoob abrams or whoever the hell you are. You are too stupid and angry to live here. Go back to bumbfu?%o Egypt or wherever you come from with your camels.. Unreasonable irrational morons who deny facts should not be allowed in this country. It has become the garbage dumpground of the world for idots like you..
mnmike

yaaqob Read the rest of your crap. You are a racist pig
Art

I know Illinois is finally joining the rest of the US for conceal carry. I have read conflicting stories. Does Illinois permit holders from other states to carry in Illinois?
- Laurence Almand
  
  I believe Illinois is like California in that is does not recognize ANY other states carrying permits.
- cawpin
  
  Correct, Illinois does not currently recognize any other states’ permits. They have said that they will consider adding recognition/reciprocity in the future.
ihavetopickastupidname

Illinois allows residents of other states carry a concealed firearm in their vehicle if they are can legally carry a firearm in public under the laws of their state or territory of residence and are not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law.
“in their vehicle if they are can legally carry a firearm in public” – What?
- cawpin
  
  No, Illinois allows you to TRANSPORT a firearm in a vehicle under those rules, not carry on your person in a vehicle.
  - Doug Belt
    
    “Illinois allows residents of other states carry a concealed firearm in their vehicle…” this says residents of other states who hold a concealed carry permit from their own state, may carry a concealed weapon as long as they do not leave their vehicle while carrying said weapon concealed.
    - cawpin
      
      If that is true, it is a change from what was originally published. I would have to see an official publication from the state of Illinois to believe it.
      - Doug Belt
        
        You somehow misinstalled the word “transport” into your misinterpretation of the law. Read the wording of the law as it is written, with no wording imposed by you.
      - cawpin
        
        No, I was using the initial statements made by Illinois, that they would not recognize carry permits from other states, in combination with the GOPA of 1986 that says you can transport firearms through states even if you don’t have a carry permit there.
        
        I didn’t misinterpret anything; I just hadn’t, and still haven’t, seen any statement(s) by Illinois that changed that.
  - ihavetopickastupidname
    
    My comment above was pulled straight from this website.
Robin Sterling

The thought that we are one country is where this country gets itself into trouble. We are 50 sovereign states that agree to be bound by a central government and constitution.
- obamathemarxist
  
  True. but all states have to adhere to the Constitution, 2nd Amendment says “shall not be infringed”.
- sbozich
  
  Then if Mississippi wants to re-enact slavery, that’s cool?
David Wilson

All 57 states should honor permits.
- sam
  
  57 states guess it’s true you can’t fix stupid
  - David Wilson
    
    Yep. Obama’s pretty stupid.
Nene

I life in florida but was thinking about moving to Hawaii. Will i be able to get a permit to carry, i have a permit in florida?
- Laurence Almand
  
  Much more difficult compared to Florida. Hawaii is on par with California when it comes to guns. No preemption law, which means towns can pass their own laws in addition to the anti-gun state laws.
  - WA resident
    
    When I lived in Hawaii, I had to take my handguns down to the Police Station and register them. I was a public defender and could not get a permit. This was a while ago, but I am sure it has only gotten worse.
Mike Smith

I have a CCW out of MO going to florida will florida take my CCw from MO
- MO_Gunner
  
  Yes, you’re fine to go to Florida with a MO issued CCW. I’ve been twice with mine and even got pulled over on the turn pike. I’m convinced it saved me a ticket because the officer like my carry.
EWub

Actually we are a union of 50 states. Those rights not delegated to the Federal government in the Constitution are reserved to the States or the people therein.
DC60

My instructor said you can carry inside your car. But once you walk into the gas station the weapon better still be in the car. The farther North the gas station is the more important it will be to leave it in the car. But that is where you will need it the most. After all it is a police state.
granny

I find it interesting that the smallest State is surrounded by States that do not honor my CCW permit. What a shame as I wanted to travel the coastline this Spring (DC level & north). As a senior citizen & traveling w/ only my dog, I feel the need to protect myself. Would have to say they are sure losing a lot of tourism.
Jeff Fowler

The real problem is even states that accept your CCW from another state may have laws for magazine capacity which would make most common glocks illegal or type of ammo restrictions. They may honor your permit but back door you on some other stupid local law.
DocHollywood_2

Should just be like a drivers license. Good in the state you drive, good in the country you live.
- cawpin
  
  You miss the point; driving isn’t a right. There should be no license or permit required to carry a firearm.
guy

where does it say other states will honor my ccw permit
drake

I just want to know if u can carry an AR with u on or back.
Todd

I live in Ohio and have a permit, I can add (according to the map) all states except CO, HI & CA. Does this sound correct to everyone? Can I get a permit in CO if I purchase a 2nd property there? Thanks.
Ken Curran

Redsox01
Ken Curran

I live in SC, but fravel up north. Have thought about a carry permit, but concerned about traveling through other states and to Mass. in particular. I am 72 and want to protect myself and family while out and about from thugs. Am I paranoid? Advise welcome.
mrgg

I carry a hand gun, because a cop is to heavy!
stillhawk

I just moved to Florida and I have a ccw permit in what was my home state of Massachusetts is what I wanted to know is can I carry in Florida with my Massachusetts permit Massachusetts has FBI do your background check then the Police Chief were you live has to chec k you out then issue the permit
WatchmanDB

I don’t know? This sure looks like a few examples of “infringements”. (as in “shall not infringe”)
Frank

I thought I just recently read somewhere on Delaware’s site they changed the ruling and accepted Va. Res. permit? On their site, they listed about 12 states they recognized and Va. is one.
The link above does not work.
Bradley Hill

States who accept ALL other states carry permits are adhering to the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution and are ALL- AMERICANS NO INFRINGMENT THERE!
Dayallaxeded

Since gay marriages legally entered into in states that have authorized them must, according to several federal district courts, be acknowledged as legal and given full faith and credit in every other state, (even ones like Virginia, with Constitutional Amendments that prohibit recognition of any marriage other than between a man and a woman), every state must give full faith and credit and cannot discriminate against CCW holders from other states. Not an argument I would want to have to litigate on my own dime or time, but it should be unbeatable, given that the 2nd A is much stronger than the vague extension of the 14th A to gay marriage.
- cawpin
  
  There is nothing vague about either right.
  - Dayallaxeded
    
    Please keep saying that. Loudly, often, and especially to authoritarians of every stripe. I don’t agree with your opinion about the relative clarity of the 14th A, but if that’s what it takes to get people to recognize that the 2nd A, likewise and even moreso, constitutes a fundamental and inalienable right of citizens that the states are not empowered to abridge, well thanks for your efforts. In this we are allies.
- Laurence Almand
  
  I think Virginia’s ban has been struck down. Who cares who people are married to? That’s a private matter. The 2nd Amendment, however, is NOT a private matter – it is of upmost public concern.
  - Dayallaxeded
    
    You seem to have missed my point–the federal courts are saying states, like Virginia (yes it’s the one most recently slapped by the feds) can’t regulate marriage differently from the most liberal (on marriage laws) state out there–they must permit or at least honor marriages, including SSM or whatever is permitted in the most liberal (on marriage laws) states. If you’re married in Vermont, you’re married in Virginia, Kentucky, and maybe in every state (once SCOTUS rules on this), no matter what laws or constitutional provisions exist in those other states. Substitute “CCWs” for “marriages” in the above. I hope it gets rammed down NJ’s and NY’s throats. This is all very much of public concern.
    - Jeff O’
      
      Dayall, it’s all right here in the full faith & credit clause: Art. IV, Sec. 1. It reads as follows:
      
      “Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.”
      - Dayallaxeded
        
        um, no. see, BAKER et al. v. GENERAL MOTORS CORP., 522 U.S. 222 (1998) etc. States still have and should have maximum sovereign autonomy to legislate on all matters not expressly delegated to the feds (a tiny set of powers that have been inflated beyond all recognition–aka, fubar) or expressly reserved as fundamental rights to the people (like the subjects of the Bill of Rights). States have long had different marriage laws. People can marry at different ages, to different degrees of consanquinity (i.e., cousins), and with different requirements for dissolution in different states. It’s a much richer (or tackier, depending on how you look at it) tapestry than the LGBT squeaky wheels want you to consider. My point is how beautifully ironic that the same social/political cadres that routinely rail against the 2nd A as an inviolate individual right are going to get hoisted on their own pitard, because the same arguments they’re ramming down everyone’s throats by force should and will be used to ram real rights, like the 2nd A down everyone’s throats, too. It’s not the right way to do it, but if it can start a trend back to recognition of truly equal, individual rights and responsibilities, I’m glad of it.
  - V Tramell
    
    A judge did rule it unconstitutional, but stayed the ruling knowing it would be appealed. So the law is still in effect.
Chris

Colorado Sucks, How does one exercise their 2nd Amendment Rights if They will not issue a Non-Resident a CCW? They have no reciprocity agreements with any other states. Just Like Communist Non American Califonia! And D.C.
Bob Maroldy

A question to ponder: If your home state issues CCW permits and you get a non-resident permit from a different state do you think it reasonable if, during a traffic stop (in your home state) you show the LEO a non-resident CCW and cannot produce a permit from your home state, that he becomes suspicious about why you do not have a resident permit, thinking you could not meet the qualifications? My home state requires 12 hours of training and I’ve seen lots of folks get Utah non-resident (5 hours) permit because the time required is shorter. My home state accepts Utah but I’ve asked three officers what they would do under these circumstances and 2 said they would call for instructions and one said he would take the individual “down to the station to get things figured out.”
I am all for National reciprocity but, until that happens, shouldn’t you have a permit from your home state before getting other non-resident ones to carry on in your home state. Comments?
- cawpin
  
  Well, since you must have a permit/license from your home state to get a Utah non-resident permit now, your question is moot.
  - Bob Maroldy
    
    OK, we can moot Utah boot in the can but what about other states that do allow you to get a non-resident without a resident? I can get an Arizona Non-resident permit, by mail, no photo, just proof of various forms of training and, of course, the background check. I wasn’t specifically targeting Utah as the source, just using it as an example. My question still stands. Anybody?
    PS: Do you have a source to verify this? I like it but would want proof before I pass it on.
Old Salt

It appears to me, that the enemies of the 2nd amendment who reluctantly and begrudgingly passed a “conceal carry” law in their state, have made sure that the reciprocity and other carry rules are insinuated into and divergent enough to confuse you into commiting a class A misdemeaner or a felony, so they can disarm you by default or at least revoke your license. It’s a sour grapes, spoiled brat, backdoor mehtod of nullifying a God given right. The hypocracy is glaring in that more people die from auto accidents than from guns, yet the drivers license is accepted carte blanc in every state, however, when it comes to the “evil” gun, you must encounter all manner of hoops and road blocks. Oh well…I’m preachin’ to the choir.
Bob Roe

I had some information shared with me by a Gentlemen who place of birth is not America. He was being harassed at work for saying right is right and wrong is wrong. The ladies told him that gray area’s are accepted in this country. When conversation on gun rights in America were brought to the table, the ladies suggested that many mass murders where a gun was used occurred in the hands of religious rights,
tea party idiots. He researched 8 of the last mass murders committed in America in theaters, schools, etc., and found out that all were registered Democrates! any input on this?
Michael Nelson

There should be a standardized CCW test for every American that can be used in every state, just like a drivers license.
Tim J

This info is not up to date with the new Idaho enhanced permit.
scott

New Mexico honors Wyoming CCW
Talon04

I am a 30 yr retired soldier. the comments about race are stupid. We were overseas and the color of a man’s exterior had no bearing. What mattered was the color of his heart. That being said, I agree with Dsrtneck. All the states should honor CCPs from other states that allow CCP. If I was a criminal I would carry anyway. The only ones with CCPs ARE honest citizens. Conn, we are with you.
- WOP 2
  
  If you’re retired after 30 years of service, a huge Bravo Zulu to you. Dr. King exhorted all of us to judge by content of character, not skin color. The problem with playing the race card is that it ignores the fact that being a knucklehead crosses every line of race, creed, color, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, and gender. ANYBODY in this country can be a good person, or a complete fool, and skin color is a lousy way to start the process of determining who the fools are. I retired from the Air Force after 6 active (Vietnam era) and 14 Air National Guard, in 1989. I have the utmost admiration for the young troops today who have survived 5 and 6 deployments to the sandbox.
  On Licenses to Carry Firearms, full faith and credit clause in the Constitution has us covered already, IF the SCOTUS had the stones to make a ruling.
Jersey gal

I live in NJ and even though we have a CCP, don’t EVER get your hopes up of being granted. A superior court judge(county or state judge) must grant you your permit, all your town police department does is the paperwork. This is where its unfair, probably why no other state in the US recognizes NJ CCP. But is still amazes me how many people from NJ apply for Utah and/or Florida CCP, pure waste of time. oh and if you are dumb enough to apply and wrote your “essay” of why you need it, and get denied, you make it harder and “may” run into problems when you apply for your pistol purchase or buy SG/rifle, because it will show you were denied!
JERSEY GAL

Chris W. Cox, executive director of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action, saying, “Law-abiding citizens have a constitutional right to defend themselves beyond their front doorstep.”
- Frank Castle
  
  Jersey Gal, I agree with you but Crispy Creme, the RINO gov of your fair state, doesn’t along with the Tory loving, freedom squashing Dems in your legislature. Good luck with your fight or move to a more freedom loving state.
Liberty-Loving Christian Man

Silliness, because, if out-of-state homosexuals are “married” based on the laws of individual states, by what possible justification may the civil rights certified by CCWs not be honored?
DaSarge

As a resident of the great and Free State of Idaho, I tink we wuz robbed here. The map above is NOT representative of the Idaho ccw permit situation. The Enhanced Carry permit we now have deserves it’s own map altogether, and some of the info on the map as it stands now is simply out of date. Please fix this. If these few small things are wrong, then what else might be wrong also??
Nobody Spiecle

I’m from Upstate NY and simply got
tired of the corrupt politics. I’ve served my country, top secret
clearance, weapons expert, honorable discharge. Went back home to the
country where I grew up. I have relatives that are Judges, State and
local police (good references), I have a clean record and tried to
get a permit for a .22 to go coon hunting, was denied “not a
legitimate reason to own” what a crock. I decided to move out, went
down south and started two business’, got my permits for protection
and enjoy a good shooting break with my employees. If NY doesn’t
want my business, there is someone else that does. Still have family
in NY but they completely agree with me they just can’t afford to
move out but would if they could. With my background and clearance I
shouldn’t be treated like a criminal in any state.
- Beebo
  
  Welcome to the South! You should not be treated like a criminal, period. No one should without cause. The loony control freaks have been in charge and too large for too long. The time has come to push back and take what is RIGHTFULLY ours. We are pushing, and we are winning, for the most part. It’s going to be a hard haul to get back our Constitutionally protected right to freely bear arms, but we will win.
- Frank Castle
  
  Good for you and thank you for your service to our country. I am the same and glad I live in Virginia although the gun grabbers seem to be threatening us here with the DC types growing in number in NorVa. It just is terrible when I have to travel from VA to PA, for example. I select the route that takes me through the MD panhandle since it’s only about 12 miles wide and I can stash my gun away for the 15 mins or so going through there (VA and PA both honor my CCW, MD doesn’t). Western Maryland has talked about become its own state because of this crap.
Cindy

Can you get a handgun if you are not a citizen of USA but have a green card and not a criminal
- Beebo
  
  It depends on what state and county or municipality within which you live. Contact the magistrate court or license issuing authority where you live.
ToledoNative

I’ve had my CHL for ten years here in Ohio where OPEN CARRY is legal WITHOUT a license. – I’m 72 and as times have changed we must except the fact that our society is getting more violent with each new generation. I AGREE with those who think there should be one FEDERAL license to carry concealed because some states’ politicians regard “their”
state as their personal fiefdom and disregard what their citizens need.
- JustDon
  
  I disagree with having a federal license to carry, only because I think the only way to do that would be for the federal government to establish a national registry of those that carry – which seems like a bad idea to me.
Lucas

When will you have an option for the new Idaho Enhanced Permit coverage?
rpyne

Idaho now has an “enhanced” permit that requires more trainng but is honored by more states, including Nevada.
Nambook

Didn’t you know they have more stupid things to talk about?
Nambook

Didn’t you know their more interested in raises and stupid taxes? Don’t forget the ones who want to be first at the bar across from their court house. There is NO government. Keep guessing.
Doug Johnson

It appears that this website has some incorrect information. I’m a resident of WA and travel a lot in Oregon. I investigated the possibility of getting a carry permit (non-resident) for Oregon, but Oregon is shall-issue for residents, MAY-issue for non-residents.
- John Van Stry
  
  I lived in Oregon for a long time. Only certain counties usually issue out of state permits, usually the ones on the border with other states. Mainly because the rest don’t want to bother with it.
  Try Coulmbia county (west of Portland), St. Helens is where you want to go to get the permit. The Sheriff there used to be great about issuing CCW’s to people from Washington. Hopefully that hasn’t changed since I moved away.
Ex Californian – Virginia now

Why not treat a gun the same as a car? Pay a fee for the privilege to carry. Register the gun – yearly. Renew the carry permit every two years. Background checks, competency, safe use and judgment testing too. Your carry permit is for a specific gun. Want to carry different types? Permit for each type – tied to the S/N of the weapon you are carrying. Caught with a gun that is not registered or tied to the correct carry permit, pay fine. Sounds like the government right? Well, two things are for sure: 1). You will NEVER get rid of the guns that are out there. 2). You will NEVER have all the sates work in conjunction unless it falls under a federal rule or guideline. Basically you pay if you want to play. Too poor to cover the nut? How much did you pay for the gun? If you can own gun(s) and buy ammo you can afford to pay for the right to carry CCW. The lines for & against guns are so divided it will never be decided unless proper legislation happens. Oh, as for the money – put it into the background system used to check. Beef it up. With the number of guns (legal) out there, probably will be a surplus. Maybe create additional or national violent crime victims funds, better training for handgun use and safety. Heck, maybe also snatch a few bucks to put to the deficit? But sitting back and pointing fingers and complaining will not solve anything. Come up with a revenue generating idea and I’m sure politicians will salivate over “Mo Money, Mo Money, MO MONEY!!!” But that’s just my opinion, i could be wrong….
- TUCO-the-ratt
  
  You are wrong.
  Are you Dianne Feinstein lurking under a pseudonym?
  
  States will never agree exactly about concealed carry. That’s OK, they’re not supposed to. That’s why it’s called the United States of America instead of the State of America. Don’t forget it’s called the Bill of RIGHTS not the the Bill of Privileges. I suggest you move back to California register everything you have and study American History for a while before posting again.
- Frank Castle
  
  This is the reason that Virginia has to worry and I live in Virginia. He must live in DC South aka NorVA if he is from California. The 2nd amendment should be the state’s guide not raising revenue. Go to Colonial Williamsburg and ask them about gun rights. They might help straighten you out.
OldSailor72

I agree with Bob, this is one country and the Constitution’s Second Amendment for all intents and purposes IS FEDERAL LAW and there should be one and ONLY ONE compilation of FEDERAL GUN LAWS that apply to all 50 states.
allwhobearbreathshallstand=

States are imaginative lines through our lands. Realize strife with neighbors is energy wasted on the strife we will endure during the shift. This is the people’s land and the people shall live and govern as law of man! Ununited we shall not stand.
AL

Al….. I agree 100% with other Wisconsin CC permit Holders that Illinois is Unconstitutional in it’s Not Recognizing Wisconsin CC permit…just goes to show you the Politicans in Illinois love to get their hands on the $$$$ they can make !!! It’s all about politics in Illinois….. and the worst thing is Wisconsin Honors Illinois CC permit, now along with numerous other states..Yet Illinois doesn’t Honor any other state CC permits .. I won’t pay the outrageous prices for a Illinois Conceal Carry Permit
Frank

I’m a retired Border Patrol Special Agent (ASU) and a veteran. I wouldn’t be caught dead with my firearm. I guess that’s why I’m still alive.
Frank

correection…WITHOUT MY FIREARM SORRY
Anthony

Well the reason why is individualized is States such as S.C. will issue a permit to a felony after its so many years old and that felon has met certain requirements. According to Federal Law, once you become a felon you lose the right to bear arms. So, allot of states won’t recognize a S.C. permit.
- Scott
  
  I’m pretty sure that’s entirely false.
Jim

Does the latest Supreme Court decision on issuing permits force all states to become Shall Issue States?
Doc Harris

How about updating the map to show which states recognize “Enhanced” permits?
John

I live in SC wish all the states would get on board and let CWP carry in all of the USA
if you did the training COME ON we don’t live in a good world any more sad to say
John

anyone know to deal with SC and GA why can’t get a long if the CWP ?????
Kevin1144

I am a North Carolina resident and own a Florida Non-Resident permit. Is it still legal to carry? If I am reading this map right, I am still good to go to carry in NC.
Frank Castle

Why does Georgia not recognize a Virginia resident CCW? Georgia just had the governor making it legal to carry in quite a few more places including churches. It doesn’t add up.
Louise

I live in and am licensed in Georgia however, I can not carry my gun in South Carolina. I can however in COLORADO and WEST VIRGINIA!! How does that work? Dodge all the states I’m not licensed to carry until I reach my destination. Unreal.
- Scott
  
  I believe it’s because Georgia doesn’t have a mandatory training class holders must attend before they get their permit… where SC does. Now SC just passed a bill that does away with the mandatory 8 hour training class (which I still can’t figure out why.) It doesn’t go into effect until July 1st of this year though. Hopefully when it does GA and SC will have reciprocity.
nuff-sedd

My life philosophy has been that;

I don’t care what race or nationality that you are,

So, if you are a “BLA-CAN-ESE-WHISH-ATINO” (covers about everyone)

& you invade my family members’ or my space with the intent to harm &/or

I personally believe that my family &/or myself are in imminent threat or danger,

You should understand that there are 15 high velocity kinetic energy reasons

why you should not be invading the afore mentioned space.

Please file that under duly noted !!!
- Cisco Kid
  
  A guy that loves to play cowboy & Indians, LOL.
  - nuff-sedd
    
    It doesn’t take a Rocket Doctor to figure out which one I lean toward. Wha-Ha ;>)
tony

can I carry a texas permit in Arkansas??
- cawpin
  
  Yes, according to this map. But, is it really too difficult to just click on the map yourself?
Jimmy

The courts will say that homosexual marriage and abortion must be legal in all states, because somehow it’s a rights issue that trumps states rights, but they routinuely violate the 2nd amendment rights of people from not only their own state, but other states as well.The homosexual deviancy mock marriage rights are not in the Bill of rights,neither is the right of “mothers” to contract mutilate murder their children under protection of law.we have non rights imposed on states by the federal government but the feds and some states heavily “infringe” of the right of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR ARMS.
- cawpin
  
  “because somehow it’s a rights issue that trumps states rights, ”
  
  First of all, federal law trumps state law where they are in contradiction. Second, one state making a ruling doesn’t change the laws of other states.
  
  “The homosexual deviancy mock marriage rights are not in the Bill of rights”
  
  Homosexuality is not a deviancy, other than the scientific definition; it “deviates” from the norm of heterosexuality. The only thing that makes one abnormal, and the other normal, is that one happens in the majority of the population, heterosexuality. Discriminating against somebody simply because they are different is the most un-American thing one can do in this country.
  
  On abortion, you cannot murder something that isn’t a person yet. I know it’s a painful truth, but it is. You can argue that a fetus is a person but the law does not agree with you. Now, personally, I wouldn’t want my wife to have one but I’m not going to hold others to my beliefs just because. Unless it violates my rights, or somebody else’s rights, it doesn’t concern me.
  
  “we have non rights imposed on states by the federal government”
  
  What would those be, exactly? If something is a right at the federal level, it applies to all the states as well. The states accepted this arrangement when they ratified the Constitution, which you seem so intent on using as an example.
  - Paul Kisling
    
    Tell that to the MMJ states…
  - Paul Kisling
    
    Tell that to the MMJ states…
Jimmy

Since to national police already run NICS on gun buyers why not just run an NICS on people with a gun who are stopped by police.If they pass,let them go.Of course that would make sense.I’m surprised that people aren’t upset that NICS checks can actually be done.
- cawpin
  
  What are you talking about? None of what you said makes any sense.
Louis Bethel

NRA Shows Alabama as a “May issue”.
Your map shows it as “Shall issue”.
Which is correct?
cwketner

Idaho issues a concealed weapons license that looks very much like a drivers license. It is not called a permit. But I don’t suppose that would make any difference.
WileyTX

Texas chl like most states requires fingerprinting and FBI checks as well. Its not just NY that wants to keep this privilege out of the wrong hands. (must get his info from Chris Matthews)
USACarry

Our map is correct. You can see Nebraska honors Wisconsin here:

https://statepatrol.nebraska.gov/media/10073/ccwnebraskareciprocity.pdf
Nelson Coleman

My father got his pistol permit in NY State in 1960 paid a one time fee and it is good for life.
- Doug Belt
  
  The law in 1960 have all been rescinded, new laws apply.
- Doug Belt
  
  The law in 1960 have all been rescinded, new laws apply.
ranger1759

Your map shows that AL. honors CT. & PA. permits. You have a link to the AL. website, where it says they do NOT honor CT. OR PA. permits. Please comment.
Super Trooper

Click on Illinois…What a joke
Christine Kaplan

Maryland, like Illinois won’t honor any other state. Assholes.
fred

does Illinois honor Missouri ccw
- cawpin
  
  Click. On. The. Map.
  
  Illinois doesn’t honor any other state.
  - and2therepublic
    
    As of 07/16/2014, Illinois has reciprocity with twenty (20) states, so far: AL, AK, AZ, AR, ID, IN, IA, KS, KY, MI, MS, MO, NB, NC, OK, SD, TN, UT, VT, WI.
    - and2therepublic
      
      Disregard the above post. I was wrong. cawpin is right.
Jerry

I am going to Oklahoma, and will be going through Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, and staying in Ok, Am I correct that the only state which will not honor my Ohio CCW is Illinois, so I need to secure the weapon in an appropriate manner before entering Illinois?
- Doug Belt
  
  You can have your weapon with you in your car but if you get out of the car you must unload and secure while in Illinois..
- Doug Belt
  
  You can have your weapon with you in your car but if you get out of the car you must unload and secure while in Illinois..
Steven

I have a curious question to ask: How Is it not a violation of your 2 A. rights when a state doesn’t accept your permit under reciprocity, yet they don’t issue non resident permits?
Steven

I have a curious question to ask: How Is it not a violation of your 2 A. rights when a state doesn’t accept your permit under reciprocity, yet they don’t issue non resident permits?
David

Does Florida accept Alabama conceal & carry permit?
- Doug Belt
  
  Yes
- Doug Belt
  
  Yes
David

Does Florida accept Alabama conceal & carry permit?
crobru

I’m planning a trip from NC through CA, OR, IL and back. Is there any way I can have the weapon in my possession when transiting those 3 states? I am licensed to concealed carry in NC.
- Frank
  
  I would either leave it home or store it in a locked box away from the ammo and may even disassemble it. Check with the states for actual requirements.
- Frank
  
  I would either leave it home or store it in a locked box away from the ammo and may even disassemble it. Check with the states for actual requirements.
crobru

I’m planning a trip from NC through CA, OR, IL and back. Is there any way I can have the weapon in my possession when transiting those 3 states? I am licensed to concealed carry in NC.
Trauma718

I thought New York doesn’t give permits to non residents
Trauma718

I thought New York doesn’t give permits to non residents
mike

I think that there is an error on the map, or at least an inconsistency between the map and the map and the notes. When I click on VA resident permit, Wisconsin shows as a blue state (allowed), but the note at the bottom of the page says that Wisconsin recognizes only Virginia non-resident permits. Which is it–does WI recognize only VA nonresident or does it also recognize VA resident?
mike

I think that there is an error on the map, or at least an inconsistency between the map and the map and the notes. When I click on VA resident permit, Wisconsin shows as a blue state (allowed), but the note at the bottom of the page says that Wisconsin recognizes only Virginia non-resident permits. Which is it–does WI recognize only VA nonresident or does it also recognize VA resident?
Buzz

Well, the ONLY state not listed for recip of my NC permit that I care to visit again is Hawaii. Otherwise I count my blessings. If the lib-tards like Bloombug don’t want me around it does not break my heart!
Buzz

Well, the ONLY state not listed for recip of my NC permit that I care to visit again is Hawaii. Otherwise I count my blessings. If the lib-tards like Bloombug don’t want me around it does not break my heart!
Guilford King

I have a lifetime permit in Indiana. I think all states should honor other states permits. We almost had a federal permit years back, but one Indiana senator had the deciding vote and said crime would rise if law abiding citizens could all carry weapons. He voted against it and it went down. I wrote and asked him to send me statistics to prove that and that he would lose in the next election and be forced to retire, which he did, because of that vote.
Guilford King

I have a lifetime permit in Indiana. I think all states should honor other states permits. We almost had a federal permit years back, but one Indiana senator had the deciding vote and said crime would rise if law abiding citizens could all carry weapons. He voted against it and it went down. I wrote and asked him to send me statistics to prove that and that he would lose in the next election and be forced to retire, which he did, because of that vote.
- cawpin
  
  There is not a single reason why national permits failed and that certainly wasn’t it.
  - Gnowark
    
    I’ll agree that a fed law to enforce honoring other states “permits” would be fine, but NO FED Permit System should ever be used since the Second Amendment is already the best Federal Permit System
- cawpin
  
  There is not a single reason why national permits failed and that certainly wasn’t it.
- Harold429
  
  You don’t want a federally issued permit – states rights are reserved for the state – not the feds. If a federal carry permit ever became a national issue (it won’t), imagine the requirements the feds would put on the permit. You have to have training, which is offered once a year in Alaska. Or will be offered weekly as soon as the instructors are certified, or some other such nonsense.
  - cawpin
    
    This is NOT a states’ rights issue. It is already defined the federal level. The states have already agreed to be bound by the 2nd Amendment.
  - Guilford King
    
    You’ve got a point there I’ve never considered, but since the Feds are already involved in the buying and selling, I figured it may work. But you’re right, they would mess it all up.
    - cawpin
      
      He doesn’t have a point on anything except you wouldn’t want a federal permit. This isn’t a states’ rights issue. It is simply forcing the states to respect, and obey, the US Constitution. They all agreed to do so.
      - Guilford King
        
        I would just like the right to carry my gun with me legally in any state. That right does not exist now. A law abiding citizen with no police record should not be punished for having a weapon. Any veteran with arms training should not have to take a course on how to shoot a gun. Indiana doesn’t require that, but Ohio does and won’t recognize an Indiana permit. It’s all about money.
BGW

Screw
Permit(s) Not Honored In:

California, Connecticut, Guam, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, New York City, Oregon, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island, Virgin Islands, Wisconsin, American Samoa, District of Columbia, N. Mariana Islands
James Allen Wyatt

We are thankful for those states that still honor CC permits; that expected to change as time goes on and the socialist/communist steadily continue the take over of our Nation’s government. Pessimist? Perhaps; actually a Realist in his late 70s, counting down . . . a Mississippi born native rifleman & pistolman.
tmaca

According to HANDGUNLAWSUS, last updated 6/27/2014, PA honors Utah resident permits. USACARRY says that PA does not honor any Utah permits. ???
- cawpin
  
  That was Friday, we’re not even through the weekend. Give them a chance to update.
goat

pa honors utah again
Cheryl A

why is CT in green? Green is not listed.
- cawpin
  
  The state you click on turns green.
  - Cheryl A
    
    thanks
Robin Hoodwinked

kinda ironic so many states that ratified the original draft of the constitution and bill of rights break the very rule of rights they themselves ratified —————but hey what do i know
Jimmy

How many constitutional rights and contrived false rights ( like homo marriage and abortion ) would the Feds allow a state to not honor it? Eventually the feds will push for all states to allow fag marriage.A REAL constitutional right such as the right to keep and BEAR arms,the feds allow the states to violate that right.
- cawpin
  
  The US Constitution and Federal laws make it so anybody can get married. Making bigoted statements doesn’t change that.
Ken Cooper

The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Except where the government indicates.
Dreaded BagLady

I came for some information about traveling with a gun. I read the comments and it seems that this is a place only for conservatives, and mostly racist ones at that. Why you all think the rest of us don’t carry is beyond me. We just don’t hang out in the same forums as you and talk about it. Probably because we aren’t welcome and you can’t seem to talk about it without making it about my race, who I might have voted for or Bennghazi. Seriously. I thought this was about CC. Not some political racist soapbox. No thank you.
- cawpin
  
  I wish people would stick to the point of page as well but you’re painting with a pretty broad brush yourself. The few imbeciles don’t represent all of us.
  - Dreaded BagLady
    
    I can see how being grouped in with some of these people would be offensive. You are right, I did not aknowledge that there are somefolks here who stand out. For that I apologize.
    I do feel the need to point out that when reading the comments here there are more than “a few imbeciles”. The comments that are on topic and not racially or politically driven are in the minority. An overwhelming minority.
- C Proescher
  
  Who’s “you all”? The very phrase is dripping with bigotry and race-hatred. The only reason someone would not be welcome racism and bigotry, so I can see why you think you’re not welcome.
  - Dreaded BagLady
    
    “You all” are the conservative people commenting here. And since conservative refers to political party, not race I don’t see how you made that leap but ok. Curious though, who am I being racist against? What race am I oppressing or judging in my comment? Perhaps you should look that word up.
    I am going to assume you didn’t actually read the comments here other than this one. Excluding about 2 people the comments mostly contain anti (insert some unnecessary insult) libreals, Obama, blacks, mexicans and just for.fun anyone.who lives in a state with any kind of regulations on guns. There were a couple of folks who suggested it stay on topic (the topic being information about traveling across state lines with a gun) but as you will see if you bother to read them that did not happen.
    So as someone who has firearms, believes in the right to own them but does not think Obama wants to take them away from me or that only blacks and mexicans commit crimes with guns so none.of us should have to go through the process of permits or registration it is not a friendly place to be. Guns don’t belong to a political party. And if increased gun ownership by responsible people is the goal perhaps a spirit of welcome and inclusion would help. As someone who just arrived I assure you that is not what this is. If you don’t care, fine. But calling me a racist for.pointing out racist remarks is juvenile and transparent. And is an example of the the vary thing I was pointing out.
Mark

This map says UT honors NV. Not true, so be careful.
Tommy3

Will Georgia and Virginia ever reciprocate? What is the hold up? Anyone know this?
lilbear68

it would be a good add if there was some commentary on whats called ‘peacefull passage’ I/e carrying in your travels through states but maybe not stopping over or stopping overnight and continuing your journey through said state with it not being your final destination
IMHO a lot of the groups should push the ‘full faith and credit’ clause enough so there will be no state denial and your carry ID would carry the same weight as your DL when traveling
beez

Just so you know – in Delaware, wear your side arm in either a courthouse or a police station, any part of either, and you will never carry anywhere legally again.
alec

for some reason this map states my Utah permit is not valid in new mexico, however I just got to new mexico, and called the local police department. and they said it is good? so I checked a few other sites and they say it is good also. so in other words I wouldn’t trust it.
BigArtie

Nevada now honors Illinois permit.
Tony

How do you transport a weapon in IL. If you have a CCW in MO?
coleangrimson

when did PA stop recognizing my UT permit? i have a MN resident and UT non-resident permit and it always used to cover PA but now when i put those in the map it says PA isn’t covered….?
markhopkins435

call ahead before traveling through any state…that’s the only way to be sure
davidshockey

Take note, since August of 2013, the State of Alabama recognizes the concealed carry permits of all other states regardless of reciprocity.
- cawpin
  
  That is reflected in the map. The only one it doesn’t recognize is New York City’s because the city isn’t a state.
garyamusic .

The tax code is easier to understand than this reciprocity bs!
- cawpin
  
  I’m not sure why it’s so hard to understand. Either a state recognizes your permit or they don’t. It isn’t complicated.
  
  Also, for you and everyone else here that keeps using the term reciprocity. This map does not show reciprocity; it shows what states recognize another state’s permit one at a time. Reciprocity is when two states recognize each others permits respectively, not just one or the other.
  - garyamusic .
    
    Perhaps I should have been a little more clear in my statement and then asked a few questions. Why don’t we have a simple Federally approved nationwide CCW? Why isn’t my home state’s license (ca) recognized in every other state in the union? It’s probably tougher to get one here than anywhere! Why is it that Idaho recognizes everyone’s CCW (except Vermont) but everyone does not recognize Idaho’s? Why is it that some states only recognize a permit issued to a person if that’s their home state but not one that’s issued to them by another state? And so on and so on…………
    
    It get’s to be quite complicated when one travels as much as I do. Not to mention the constant changes in these silly laws, a background check is just that right! I mean with these things called computers and all surely they can keep tabs on a guy/gal regardless of which state he’s in should he break some law that would disqualify him. Heck, my credit card company can keep track of me all over the globe!
    
    I think most of us know what reciprocity means (you do me and I’ll do you) but thanks for the lesson anyhow.
XDs

Does anyone know why Georgia does not recognize SC or VA (and vice versa)? It just doesn’t make sense. I know it’s a wide open question, but would appreciate any input from someone “in the know”. Thanks!
- G8R8U2
  
  Because neither of those states will honor Georgia’s. In the case of South Carolina, they require classes and tests to acquire a CCW, and Georgia does not require anything other than being legal and paying the fee.
  
  South Carolina considers that inadequate to own and carry a weapon, so they don’t honor Georgia’s permits. Therefore Georgia will not honor theirs.
  
  I don’t know for certain about Virginia, but I suspect there’s a similar problem. Seems some states don’t want Americans from other states carrying guns in their states if they haven’t either passed their (S.C.) state’s requirements or passed similar requirements in their own state.
  
  Quite a few of us take our tourism dollars elsewhere for this very reason; you can’t expect people to travel around the country without the ability to protect themselves and their families, so many of us only vacation in states that honor our permits.
smith and wesson fans

My wife is going on a trip to see family in North Carolina traveling from Michigan thru OH, WV she is a ccw holder she is going to take her pistol ( registered in her name ) and she wanted to take one of mine ( registered in my name ) so she can go shooting with her dad …. Question ….. if she did get pulled over for any reason would she have any problem having my gun that’s not registered to her
- cawpin
  
  Outside of Michigan, their registration law has no bearing on whether you can have the firearm or not. There is no federal registration so the other states would probably just make sure you are following their laws.
knight10

I see alot of bitching and complaining about being able to carry in various states and alot of people are against it. My mother and quite a few of my coworkers and friends are in that category. But in lamence terms it is our right to bear arms as the 2nd amendment states. Alot of political fucks have wanted to take away that right and shit along those lines. What i say is that they can take their shit and shove it. They will never take my weapons while i draw breathe and i will carry a concealed firearm for as long as i have my permit. Am a law abiding citizen even though i dont agree with all the political bs that have our country the way it is. I love my country the way it used to be not the shit storm it is now!!
Blesski

How fricken confusing! There is no way possible, it seems, to know how to stay within our legal rights! Intimidating, too as I am sure is the purpose.
- cawpin
  
  Yeah, if only there was an easily accessible website with a map you could simply click on that had links to all the relevant information.
Ralloh

This is utterly insane. First there should not be concealed carry permits. That is what the Second Amendment is for. Do we have to get a permit to speak or think? No Constitutional Right should require a permit.

I live in Ohio, two miles from the Pennsylvania border. We do not reciprocate. Pennsylvania is a shall issue State, even to out of State residents. The problem is, the local Sheriffs decide if they will do the paper work. Last time I checked, they won’t.

So now, if I need to go somewhere that takes me into PA, I have to leave my gun at home. If I stay in Ohio, I’m fine. It makes no sense at all.
- cawpin
  
  If they are shall issue, the sheriffs do not have that discretion. That’s what “shall issue” means. If they are choosing not to, they are breaking the law. Report/sue them.
Herman

I live in Arkansas California and Oregon don’t show that is except my perm but if you click on California and Oregon it shows that they separated that they accepted
- Tim
  
  I believe Oregon will not honor any other states permit.
disqus_rAg1ZY37Qt

I understand the inconvenience and confusion when individual states have their own rules and regulations for permits, etc. However, I’m enough of a State Rights believer to live with the inconvenience. The last thing I want is more federal intervention and control.
- cawpin
  
  Again, I don’t know how many times this has to be said, this is NOT a states’ rights issue. Federal law trumps state law, period. The constitution trumps all. States must follow the constitution. This isn’t more control for the federal government; it’s forcing states to abide by the law of the land, which they’ve all agreed to do.
Martin Walker

so says the constitution but who wants to be a test case? that is where they have us.
john

wanted to drive to syracus ny .could I carry my handgun in car only john in ohio
Clearanceman2 .

Interesting that a lot of the southern, mid western, and western states recognize MD or NY permit but MD and NY won’t recognize permit holders from these same states.
- Great Caesar 0bama
  
  Well, yeah. Both New York and California are run by wild-eyed, gun-hating leftists.
ace731

So I can bring weed on a plane from CO to WA and vise versa, but not my concealed pistol…
- cawpin
  
  Uh, no, you cannot take weed on a plane.
Howard Meyerberg

when will the final vote be to eliminate the recpt act?
Howard Meyerberg

and will Illinois join fla
Great Caesar 0bama

Thank goodness I carry concealed under LEOSA which trumps state laws. I can carry in every state and every city.
Yellow Devil

What’s sad is that if I drive from AZ to my past home of PA, I can CC legally through every state in the trip EXCEPT when I pass through MD. Asses.
john hancock

I live in NC and need to transport my firearms, rifles, shotguns and pistols thru SC, Ga, AL, MS, LA, to a new residence in San Antonio TX. Any advice on who will or wont let me do that?
I have a NC concealed carry permit valid until 2019.
- cawpin
  
  If you put them all in cases in the trunk, there should be no problems. You’d be covered under the Firearm Owner Protection Act. As long as you’re legal where you’re coming from, and legal where you’re going to, states in between can’t interfere with your passing through.
  - GreenTriumph1
    
    But cannot stay overnight.
James S.

There are no CCW permits required in Alaska, someone needs do their homework.
philosopher

I need a shotgun. Any recommendations? Grew up with guns when I was young and fired Expert in the military. Stayed away for years but time to get armed. Thanks!
tim

I have a Minnesota conceal and carry. I want to ask if under standing it correctly can I cross into wisc with out telling the police or taking any classes or have a back round check
DaSarge

Ya know? I’m a bit angry now that this site makes NO provision for listing the five states that DO recognize the Idaho Enhanced CCW Permit. Right now the states of Nevada, New Mexico, South Carolina, Virginia and West Virginia ALL recognize our new CCW Permit. But this is NOT reflected on this site. So my reaction is that since this site is not accurate, it then stands to reason that there may be more and maybe even greater inaccuracies. What might they be? I double-dog DARE them to get back in touch with me about this.
Rick

New York has one of the strictest hand gun permit regulations in the country I would think most all the states would accept it,
- GreenTriumph1
  
  States like that the other state gives reciprocity. I’m from Ohio and until NY recognizes my permit, why should my state recognize NY? Also the difficulty in getting a permit in NY doesn’t mean that their permit holders are any more qualified or have higher standards than in Ohio. It’s all political in NY.
Joseph Henderson

I thought you could carry your firearm into Alabama rest stops? When I traveled thru a few weeks ago they all had signs up. I took a pic of a couple. Some needs to bring up to the Gov. This pic is from I65 north at MM 213
coleangrimson

Since when is my Utah non-resident permit not legal in PA. It used to be… that’s dumb… i guess i won’t be going thru PA anymore. Or if i do it’ll be open carry only
Larry Wilson

I love that May issue thing. That mean that You have to prove you need a CCW. Like good ole mayor Bloomberg said. You have to be important as I am to get a carry permit….and your not. He has private body guards with all kinds of weapons that others can’t have and when we we the mayor he had the entire NYPD to protect him then. My big problem with this May Issue thing is just this. The federal courts have said many time now…..”It is your job to protect your self…not the job of the police.” So the Governor of New York says you can’t protect yourself. I am glad I live in Arizona and have my CCW here. And I will never go to New York with that governor ever.. Get him out of office!!
John

We are going to try to get this NY Governor out of office this November. Hopefully, our brothers and sisters will take a stand and show up to vote!!!!
George Connectal

The east coast is eat up with democRATS and their anti constitution beliefs.
Ernie L.

My Question, how do I get my weapon from California where I have a CCW to Alaska? Canada will not allow firearms in my RV, I’m traveling to Alaska next year for a two month trip all around Alaska. Some of the area is quite remote and I would feel much better with my CCW. Any thoughts?
Ernie
http://webbpage.cwahi.net/ RadarRecon

States still have some rights that have not been taken away by D.C.

BTW, the right to secede is also included in the 10th Amendment (though not mentioned specifically).
- cawpin
  
  The 10th Amendment does not give states the right to secede. There is no right to secede in the United States, short of revolution.
  - http://webbpage.cwahi.net/ RadarRecon
    
    Have you actually READ the 10th Amendment? Maybe a refresher is in order.
    “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
    prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively,
    or to the people.”
    
    The “united” “states” joined together voluntarily to form a union, not forced to (the unlawful “Civil War” notwithstanding). Having been voluntary, they can also separate themselves voluntarily because they are not “prohibited by” the Constitution from doing so.
    - cawpin
      
      “Having been voluntary, they can also separate themselves voluntarily because they are not “prohibited by” the Constitution from doing so.”
      
      Wrong. The union of the states is a permanent one. This has been ruled on by the Supreme Court. There is no legal way for a state to remove itself from said union, short of rebellion or, the only other option, the other states allowing it.
    - Rich White
      
      Article 1 Section 10 of the United State Constitution states, “No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation…” Now where does the right to secede come from? The Constitution clearly states that what the south did was unconstitutional and illegal. While states joined voluntarily, once they signed and ratified the Constitution they were contractually bound to honor and obey it. Seceding and entering into the Confederacy was not permitted under the Constitution as spelled out in the above article.
      - cawpin
        
        Completely correct, Rich.
        
        There are actually only two ways a state can leave the union. One is what was attempted during the civil war, armed revolution. The other is if the other states vote to allow it, and even then there is no defined way for that to happen. It would be a “try it and see what happens” kind of thing.
Dave

I think anyone who served in the military should be able to carry in any state in the country. I am a 100% disabled Vet from Florida. I have had a carry permit since Florida allowed it. If all vets carried guns you would have a hell of a lot less crime.
- cawpin
  
  Only if you also think everybody else should be able to as well. Serving in the military doesn’t, and shouldn’t, give you special rights. Everybody has that right.
John Strat

I hate that some states do not allow “Non-Resident” permits, when the same qualifications are needed to get this type of permit. The only reason people get these is because they live in Democrat Party anti-gun liberal states where Democrats do not want you to be able to defend yourself or your family from violent criminals.
tim

I have a CCW for NYS and according to the handbook i got with it , “deadly physical force” is justified to protect my life, my home, and to stop a rape, kidnapping or act of arson.
pete1427

I just ran across a early quote regarding being armed on another forum and
thought it might be appropriate here…..
“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.”Benjamin Franklin, 1759
Vavoom

They want a sound mind well that is no problem ….er,ah…oh shlt.
Rich White

They need to update their listings. Nevada recently dropped reciprocity with West Virginia because the latter has a law that lets a law enforcement officer who is 20 years old get a CCW.
Ruth

Carrying a Fire Arm in any Government Building is against the law, even
in a Post Office ! We are all in this conversation for one reason, to
protect lawfully and all I see is a lot of tail sniping. As a matter of
fact , it just became legal to carry in a Rest Area off of Interstates.
Lets talk Law, and not chase our tails with this BS.
- cawpin
  
  “Carrying a Fire Arm in any Government Building is against the law”
  
  That simply is not true. As already discussed, you can carry into the unsecured parts of government buildings in most states.
vermontstrong

Vermont is not “shall issue”. They do not give out permits because none are required concealed or open. No process or wait time what so ever. If you have a gun, you can carry it. Simple as that.
Ray Angel

I don’t understand why UT will honor permits from NM and NV but those states will not honor permits from UT, can anyone explain?
joe from ohio

no bob this is a union of states. each state is its own country. thats whats wrong with the u.s.. everyone thinks the federal government has the power but in fact the states are supposed to have it. the federal government should not be able to tell each state what they can do. please listen to mike church. god bless and please do more research on the constitution.
- cawpin
  
  You shouldn’t tell people too do more research on the constitution when you obviously have no understanding of it. The US Constitution guarantees the right to keep and bear arms. Each state in the union agreed to be governed by this constitution when they ratified it. The federal government absolutely has the power, and the responsibility, to force the states to obey it. That’s what this is, not a states’ rights issue.
  - AR15DeadOn
    
    Cawpin come on now!!! I don’t think I can handle anyone who has read our Constitution and understands it. : ) This case if over………. What I can’t understand is how States get these un-Constitutional laws passed…….Shame on the people of those States.
Dem-Spoiler

I wouldn’t want a libterd carrying a gun anyway… They wouldn’t know how to use it. How bout let’s just ban them from carrying. If you vote Democrat, you will be denied from ever getting a CWP because you have shown that you are too ignorant to be allowed to carry.
disqus_e0XtJDMPfo

The CCW map concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html Needs updating for Idaho enhanced. WA should not be red anymore 3 others. 34 states in all.
SFC Kenneth A. Partyka, SR ( R

I am in Maryland, the state who takes all your rights away so the felons can carry. If I get a non-resident Utah CCW, which states is it good in?
- cawpin
  
  Utah no longer issues non-resident permits if you don’t have a permit/license from your home state.
Frank Rice

A lot of comments about going into government buildings. Know the laws and follow them is your best bet. Yeah I wish there was one set of laws for the whole country but this is the United States divided by politics. I’m in Minnesota which is very liberal. I’m amazed how free we are for possessing and carrying.
Rob

True story. My cousin from Illinois brought friends to my house in Louisiana and we went shooting outside my house. I could not believe that they had never shot a firearm before. In fact, they didn’t even know how to hold a firearm (rifle or pistol). After a short tutorial I let one of the guys shoot my crossbow at about 15 yds. I have one of the big block targets for bows. I have an RGB sight on the crossbow, sighted in at about 30 yds. He shot about 4ft high, through my wooden fence, my metal shed and was stopped by my dog carrier. These people are so constrained by laws that they don’t even know how to hold a weapon. That’s a damn shame that their local governments want to keep them that way instead of having training programs to teach the how to handle firearms. That’s why so many innocents are killed in Chicago gang wars. They don’t know how to hit what they are shooting at. If they want to kill each other, fine with me. But learn how to shoot. The blood of the innocent’s are on the hands of the authorities for being so restrictive. Because the law abiding citizens don’t know how to defend themselves even if they are armed. It’s shameful, but it’s more shameful that they keep voting to keep the boots of the well protected thugs (posing as lawmakers) firmly pressed against their necks.
The American

I am a Maryland resident, how would I obtain a non-resident ccw from WV?
Trythis Last

I believe Ga only requires $$$ and a background check. NO WRITTEN OR SHOOTING proficiency requirements…so some states refuseto recognize/reciprocate with Ga.
There are more differences that cause non reciprocity.
JC

If you have a concealed carry permit and you are visiting a state that has reciprocity with the state that issued your permit, but the state you are visiting has changed their laws to “open carry”, can you still carry your weapon concealed, or do you have to now carry “open” in that state?
- cawpin
  
  Universally, you have to follow the laws of the locale you are in. That said, open carry and concealed carry are not mutually exclusive and, generally speaking, a location that allows open carry will have concealed carry as well. I’ve never heard of a state switching to exclusively open carry and getting rid of concealed carry. They generally just add one or the other, whichever they are missing.
flyr

Classifying California as a May Issue state is a joke for a majority of the residents in Los Angeles , San Francisco, Alameda , and Santa Barbara
Mike Golden

That confusing bunch of reciprocity laws will soon come to and end when the Republicans pass a national reciprocity law when they take over. It will no doubt be vetoed by the president however the pressure will be on the entire congress to override the veto. And I would think some Democrats would vote for it as will.
- cawpin
  
  This is not the way to approach this. We must get the Supreme Court to rule on it. The 2nd Amendment in itself guarantees the right to carry.
Jacob Hughes

Hate to whine but… why in the F does my state of Alabama allow most all states but… only a few accept Alabama’s? You guys still pissed about the war? LOL
- cawpin
  
  I’m guessing Alabama doesn’t require a training class for a carry license/permit. Indiana has the same issue.
http://ms1.gotdns.com/ ClintonsTart

i wanna use my kawk as a firearm? is it possible?
WeaselClubber

Yaaqob Abramsis a colostomy bag with ears.
Grrtime

How about updating the map for the Idaho enhanced coverage?
http://www.gunsgodandcountry.blogspot.com/ johninlongmont

the 2nd Amendment is my permit
SFC Kenneth A. Partyka, SR ( R

Just read where a Utah non resident CCW is only good if gun is in automobile. But you can open carry in Pa with the non resident CCW Permit from Utah but not in Philadelphia or State Parks. Concealed carry with non resident CCW from Utah is not permitted in Pa. That’s how I understood what I read.
- cawpin
  
  Are you taking about specifically in PA? Because nothing you said applies generally to the Utah non-resident permit.
Ron

The whole system is in need of a blanket law for the entire country. For example, my Utah resident ccw in which I took an extensive class is not honored in New Mexico yet the non-resident ccw I have from Arizona that requires no more than the paperwork and the fee is honored in New Mexico….go figure!
Ben Gagliardo

they honer my drivers license in all states…… and my marriage license….
- Jim
  
  Not your law license.
Chris Foster

I travel to Ohio alot to see family wish they would start honoring a indiana permit since we are right next to them guess the trips there will have to slow down a bit
ColonelDrapes

What’s with Georgia, home of the Infantry Center at Fort Benning?
Stan Mlynarczyk

I do agree that is inconvenient for gun owners but I believe in state rights. Our founding fathers adhered to a federalist view of the union and wanted to protect against a strong central government becoming a bully as is currently the case.
John Deere

My practice targets are life sized replicas of Islamic terrorists for a reason.
Pete Curtis

The apparent inability of the persons who have commented so far to address the issue without vituperation and irrational denunciation of others causes me greater apprehension than the presence of ISIS, armed with dirty bombs.
Ron

Understood about the acceptance in Arizona for my Utah training, but my point being that those two states being equal, New Mexico accepts Arizona but not Utah.
Steven

Get off the race thing people. This chat is for the discussion of concealed carry permits. The race crap is for Twitter or Face Book !
tstucker

Isn’t it amazing that the western states do not allow any reciprocity with the 30+ states that do? Arrogance or stupidity? Or both? You pick.
- cawpin
  
  WTF are you talking about?
Ryan

conceal and carry’s should be allowed to anyone that uses it for self defence
SFC Kenneth A. Partyka, SR ( R

I am visiting Va soon, from Md. I have a Utah CCW permit. What must I do with gun before and leavin Va
- Ron
  
  If you are driving from Utah you’re pretty good with the Utah resident permit. If you go through New Mexico, Illinois or South Carolina separate your gun from the ammo and store it in two different secured places in the vehicle while you are traveling through those states. Otherwise you should be OK. Virginia honors the Utah permit.
Gregg Macklin

Article IV Section 1 and 2 REQUIRE AL states to honor EVERY state’s permits to carry.
Robert Ciaciak

These maps are very confusing. I still have no clue where my permit is good and where it’s not, what states i can carry what states can carry here.
- sarcon
  
  click on your state and it will change the map
WOP 2

Here in Pennsylvania, the rules change daily. We’re trying to impeach our AG, Kathleen Kane, and her office is “in charge” of reciprocity. On the other hand, in just a few weeks, PA License to Carry Firearms will be accepted by Ohio. Lamentably, Kane won’t establish reciprocity, so Ohio resident licenses are still no good in Pennsylvania. It just keeps getting curioser and curioser, doesn’t it?
randand1 .

Exellent resource!
Trythis Last

So,
What is Concealed Carry RECOGNITION?
- cawpin
  
  Recognition is when one state recognizes another state’s permit/license. Reciprocity is when two states recognize each other’s permits/licenses. It is a reciprocal agreement.
  
  For example, Indiana recognizes every other state’s permit. Not every other state recognizes Indiana’s. Therefore, Indiana has reciprocity with some states but recognizes every state’s permits.
  - Trythis Last
    
    Thanks. The website explanation left me confused.
    ….like one-sided reciprocity
Rational74

WV does not have reciprocity with NV however this says it does. That is incorrect. We lost that sometime in early 2014.
HWayneS

Very informative and easy to use website, GOOD JOB !!!!!!
dazzy

So if I have a ccw permit from Nebraska (and Utah non-resident) I can concealed carry in Michigan?
So many pages with conflicting info.
DaSarge

This website is inaccurate insofar as the Idaho CCW permits are concerned. We have two permits now, the Basic and the Enhanced. With the Enhanced permit, one must go for range training and 8 hours of classroom instruction on the law and deadly force, and lawful usage of a firearm. The range work takes 8 hours and the applicant must shoot at least 98 rounds with the weapon they choose to use. The Enhanced CCW is accepted in Virginia, West Virginia, South Carolina, Washington State and Nevada, New Mexico and Colorado. With this permit, and Idahoan is legal to carry in every state west of the Mississippi with the exception of California and Oregon and also Minnesota. I can live without going to Minnesota. And getting the Oregon permit is not as difficult as it used to be with the Enhanced Permit. I won’t go to the People’s Republic of Kalifornia. I don’t wish to visit a communist country. So I’m good with my permit, which is now good in 34 states.
farmhand

All I have to say is a bad person is a bad person, and a good person is a good person. Who cares about there race or gender!
Jeanne Price

Saw on the news last night where our Democrat Governor, Earl Ray Tomblin
vetoed the “Conceal Carry Without a License” bill passed by the
Republican controlled WV legislature…Guess we need to get a Republican
Governor in 2016 to have the “Will of the People” upheld in WV. Rumor
has it the Joe Manchin will not run for US Senate in 2016 but is
considering running for the Governorship of WV again…RATS!
Jared

Ohio as of today has reciprocity with all other states that issue Carry Permits.
- cawpin
  
  No, they don’t. Reciprocity means two states recognise each other’s permits. Since Illinois doesn’t recognise any other state’s permit, no state has reciprocity with them.
  
  Ohio may recognise all other’s permits, but that isn’t reciprocity.
Michael

I have a CA<NV<UT and FL CCW = I will be riding up the coast to WA state and then ferry over to Victoria for a few days then Back to WA State – Where or How can I store my Glock 27 in WA while I am over in Canada for those few days – any suggestions??
Josh

didn’t ohio just change there law so it honors all states cc if you are temporarily in ohio…the change is not reflected in the map
Roy Clingenpeel

The problem in this country is ethnic and racial identity prevails over recognition of American citizenship.
An American citizen either born or naturalized are no longer Mexicans, Africans(what ever that is), Asian (Chinese and others), English or one of hundreds other nationalities or religious beliefs.. They are all Americans and the government and each should recognize them as Americans and not separate us into a hundred or so social, ethnic, racial, sexual identity groups and or special financial aid politically created entitlements. We can’t all be identified as equal until we all accept ourselves as equal under the constitution and not seek special treatment or identity by virtue of our origin or personal orientation. A larger portion of our dangerous internal problems originate and are politically created in Washington.
Gary J. Palys

What “we the people” need is a legal right to carry in all 50 states! And you know what? It’s in the Constitution already…
Dynomutt

Hey, I need clarification:
Does PA honor TX non-resident? Your map says it does, but I have seen other maps that indicate that PA honors TX resident only.
steven

You will always have racism as long as you have mixed cultures. The only way to avoid this is to send minorities back to there native countries, not by laws.
guest

But it sure gives you the right to not want to be around them.
guest

The percentages are about right, as for the hate comment, I will decide who I want to hate and why. So I hate all criminals regardless of race, and keep a close eye on blacks because such a large percentage of them are criminals.
- Roselind Berry
  
  Hate is relative. I love ice cream until I think about my waistline; then I hate the fat and carbohydrates in it. Can’t say I’m very fond of criminals!
GANGBUSTERS

Amen i see where getting more and more state to carry in.
Captain Kirk 2

you need to update Ohio and Pennsylvania reciprocity…..Ohio now honors PA…
- cawpin
  
  Does PA honor Ohio?
GANGBUSTERS

Yes it does now.I have a map on all states that honor OHIO’S ccw if you look it up you can get one,, we gained alot of other states to bye the way.
TJK_2036

As of April 10, 2015 Pennsylvania honors Ohio Permits
http://rhiannon33.wix.com/portfolio Chelsea Rhiannon

Been looking at this for a while, planning which states I’ll need permits from to be valid nationwide… And it looks like it’s almost possible. I’d have to get a non-res permit in most of the New England states and Illinois since they only honor their own permits (well, Illinois is new, so we’ll see), as well as Utah (for it’s ease of obtaining a permit) and a resident permit in what will eventually be my home state of North Carolina. It looks like though, there are still 4 areas I won’t be able to legally conceal. DC is still pending, though I expect I’ll need a non-res permit when they finally allow it. The problem states will be California, Oregon, and Hawaii. Right now, CA and HI only honor resident permits, and Oregon only gives non-res permits to bordering states. Now I’m not too concerned about HI, can’t get a gun on a plane to get there… But it concerns me that there are areas of the country I’ll never be able to completely exercise my 2nd amendment rights. If these states are concerned about the qualifications of other states’ permits, why not just make sure non-residents meet their own requirements? Does anyone know of an easier way to have nearly nationwide recognition in just a few permits?
Deenohh

Of course you would believe everything wikipedia .. More accurately: blacks are 52.6 percent of those INCARCERATED for homicide. Whites are far more likely to be given breaks such as probation, suspended sentences and the like. You may also be surprised to note that the hispanic/latino population who currently comprise a slightly greater percentage of the population than blacks at around 14 percent or so commit less than 3% of all homicides.
- Roselind Berry
  
  The real arena of racial bias against blacks is abortion on “demand.” We have aborted four or more black babie for every white baby aborted. By now, if not for Planned Parenthood ( a racist organization if there ever was one; read about Margaret Sanger) blacks would be the majority race here. There is something to be said for fertility. (There is also something to be said for getting married first.)
jsivad

I have a Wisconsin permit, Can I leagley carry in Michigan?
Adam

You updated Ohio’s reciprocity with WI, CO, and GA which were a direct result of HB234 and the fact that Ohio now recognizes all other states’ permits…. but you haven’t updated that fact itself….
- WOP 2
  
  Careful. Ohio reciprocity is not etched in stone. Read it carefully. The term “temporarily” is not defined, and that’s the rub.
MeRp

Oregon should be May Issue for non-residents. They are Shall Issue for residents, but individual sheriffs may issue to residents of neighboring states (WA, ID, NV, CA).
Will Killyou

What a confusing mess, this one of the few things that should be federally done. Reciprocity should be valid throughout the nation.
Rod

Ohio now honors all out of state permits. Page 14 & 15 of the Ohio carry rule book. And I did confirm with the auglaize county sheriff’s department.
GenMinion

Why should we honor Illinois permits when they don’t accept any other state?
Gregg Macklin

Article IV Section 1.

Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.

Section 2.

The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states.
http://Samsoundful.wix.com/Samsoundful Samuel T. Robertson IV

map needs updated
To be fair

I believe your map for Indiana residents needs to be upgraded to include Ohio as another state honoring Hoosier permits.
mark

It nice to see Ohio added to California’s list
weRRscrewed

Commie states should just close their borders and let the population off themselves. A bunch of foolish liberals who don’t love America.
Joe Rose

I see light blue and dark blue,how does this work, does light blue states allow light AND dark blue states to conceal carry or just other light blue states
cawpin

USA Carry guys, you did updates and didn’t fix the mistakes. Indiana does NOT issue licenses to non-residents as a general rule. The only way a non-resident can get an Indiana license is if they are the owner of a regular place of business in Indiana.
http://www.paleosaver.com Lorin Chane Partain

Had a question. What tool did USA Carry use for this map feature. Kinda want to integrate something like this in my own website.
- cawpin
  
  They researched the laws and compiled them into their own tool.
  - http://www.paleosaver.com Lorin Chane Partain
    
    Well yes I thought so on the research side, was wondering if there was a plugin used for the mapping part. But guess not, sounds like they developed it.
Nick Merk

Nevada has passed sb 175 in to law. this should greatly expand the list of states nevada offeres reciprocity to.
http://batman-news.com VIETNAM VET

When I got my CCW five years ago I was able to travel through some of the states that now say I can’t. The one thing that I have a problem with it that the IODOT FINSTINE HAS A CCW FROM CALIFORNIA, but does she know how to use her weapon properly, and was she also trained by a state certified instructor. Or just because she is being paid but the people of the united states, does that give her the right to tell anyone that “YOU CAN’T CARRY A WEAPON OF ANY KIND?”
Nick Merk

Pursuant to SB 175 and AB 488 of the 2015 Legislative Session, the State of Nevada will recognize concealed weapons permits from the following states:
Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Idaho (both types of permits), Illinois, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota (both types of permits), Ohio, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming
- cawpin
  
  I thought they passed recognizing all permits? You don’t have Indiana listed.
Ron

Recently my brother in-law who resides in Nevada, told me Nevada passed CCW reciprocity with California. I’m unable to confirm this with any search. Anyone have any information on this?
USACarry

That is what our maps show.
- cawpin
  
  Yes, but only because you never updated them when Arizona dropped off of Nevada’s list. You really need to get on top of this map again. It used to be a good resource. Now, it’s too outdated to trust in some cases.
audieho

The picture has to be updated now. After yesterday’s Supreme Court Ruling, it is now recognized in all 50 states. The Court argued that the Due Process Clause extends “certain personal choices central to individual dignity and autonomy” accepted in a majority of states across the state lines of a handful of states that still banned the practice. My right to conceal carry is recognized in 36 states so my personal choices central to my dignity and autonomy must be recognized in the handful of states that ban concealed carry. SCOTUS said so.
Allen LeMaster

Well, under the fourteenth amendment, Section !, ALL states have to recognize concealed carry! No more pick and choose!

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