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California Concealed Carry Permit

California Concealed Carry FAQ’s

Does California issue concealed carry permits?

California a May Issue State and currently issues licenses to carry concealed firearms to residents of California.

When a person applies for a license to carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, the sheriff of a county may issue a license to that person.

California does not issues licenses or permits to carry concealed to non-residents.

Who issues California Licenses to Carry?

Licenses and permits to carry concealed firearms in California are issued by the sheriff of a county or the chief or other head of a municipal police department.

Are background checks required for a California License to Carry?

Yes, the licensing authority should collect fingerprints when submitting an application and submit them to the California Department of Justice which initiates the background check.

Does having a California License to Carry exempt you from the background check when purchasing a firearm in California?

No, having California License to Carry does not exempt you from the background check required when purchasing a firearm in California. The one exception is a California Entertainment Firearms Permit but that doesn’t apply here.

How long is a California License to Carry valid for?

A California License to Carry is valid for up to 2 year from the date of the license.

What is the processing time for a California License to Carry?

The processing time for a California License to Carry is within 90 days of the initial application or 30 days after they receive the background check from the Department of Justice, whichever is later.

It has been reported that some licensing authorities don’t take fingerprints when submitting an application which delays the process since they need this to start the background check but this is unlawful.

How much does a California License to Carry cost?

The cost for a California License to Carry can cost anywhere from $200 to $300. There is a $44 state fee and the licensing authority will charge a fee of up to $100 (20% collected up front and 80% collected upon issuance). You will also need to pay for your classes, fingerprints (Live Scan) and other reported fees.

Licensing authorities can also require psychological testing and the fees for this cannot exceed $150.

What are the requirements for obtaining a California License to Carry?

The licensing authority may issue a California License to Carry upon proof of the following:

  1. The applicant is of good moral character.
  2. Good cause exists for issuance of the license.
  3. The applicant is a resident of the county or a city within the county, or the applicant’s principal place of employment or business is in the county or a city within the county and the applicant spends a substantial period of time in that place of employment or business.
  4. The applicant has completed a course of training as described in Section 26165.

What are the training requirements for obtaining a California License to Carry?

For new license applicants, the course of training for issuance of a license under Section 26150 or 26155 may be any course acceptable to the licensing authority, shall not exceed 16 hours, and shall include instruction on at least firearm safety and the law regarding the permissible use of a firearm.

The licensing authority may require a community college course certified by the Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training, up to a maximum of 24 hours, but only if required uniformly of all license applicants without exception.

For license renewal applicants, the course of training may be any course acceptable to the licensing authority, shall be no less than four hours, and shall include instruction on at least firearm safety and the law regarding the permissible use of a firearm. No course of training shall be required for any person certified by the licensing authority as a trainer for purposes of this section, in order for that person to renew a license issued pursuant to this article.

The applicant shall not be required to pay for any training courses prior to the determination of good cause being made pursuant to Section 26202.

Does military training exempt you from the training requirements to get a California License to Carry?

Military training does not exempt you from the training requirements when applying for a California License to Carry.

Where can I find a firearm instructor for the required training to get a California License to Carry?

Once you application for a California License to Carry is approved the licensing authority should contact you to give you information on taking their approve course. USA Carry also has a list of California Firearm Instructors but you will still need to go to one that is approved by the licensing authority.

How do I apply for a Non-Resident California License to Carry?

California does not issues licenses or permits to carry concealed to non-residents.

How do I renew my California License to Carry and what is the cost?

Renewing your California License to Carry with the same licensing authority that issued your original license is similar except you should not need to get fingerprinted again and there is a reduced fee that cannot exceed $25 instead of $100.

How do I change a name on a California License to Carry?

We recommend contacting licensing authority that issued your California License to Carry to find out their process of changing your name on your license.

How do I change an address on a California License to Carry?

If you change your address you must contact the licensing authority that issued your California License to Carry in writing within 10 days. If you move out of the county that issued your license, it will expire in 90 days and you will need to apply for a new license in the county of your new residence.

What do you do if your California License to Carry is lost, stolen, or damaged?

We recommend contacting the the licensing authority that issued your California License to Carry as soon as possible if your license has been lost, stolen or damaged. We cannot find any law or information on the exact procedure to follow when your California License to Carry is lost, stolen, or damaged.

Do you have to notify the Sheriff that issued your California License to Carry if you get arrested or convicted of a crime?

We cannot find anything in the law that states that you must notify the licensing authority that issued your California License to Carry if you get arrested or convicted of a crime.

If you move my permanent residence to another state, is your California License to Carry still valid?

If you move out of the county that issued your California License to Carry, it will expire in 90 days. You will need to apply for a new license in the state of your new residence.

Can you transfer another state’s Concealed Carry Permit or License to California?

No. You cannot transfer a permit or license from another state to California. You must apply for a new California License to Carry.

Does California recognize or accept any other state’s concealed carry permits or licenses?

No, California does not recognize any other state’s permits or licenses or have any reciprocity agreements with any other states.

Do any other states recognize my California License to Carry?

Yes, there are states that will recognize and honor your California License to Carry. To view the list of states visit our Concealed Carry Maps. When carrying in another state you must obey the laws concerning concealed carry of that state.

In California, do you need to inform Law Enforcement that you are carrying a concealed weapon?

There is no California law that states you have a duty to inform Law Enforcement that you are carrying a concealed weapon but it has been reported that some issuing authorities are the requirement of informing Law Enforcement that you are carrying concealed. If you have this requirement from your issuing authority then you do have a duty to inform.

Does California issue Licenses to Carry to resident aliens with a green card?

Yes, you are not required to be a citizen to get a California License to Carry and we have found numerous reports of people with green cards that were able to obtain a California License to Carry.

What are the laws for carrying a firearm in an automobile in California?

If you do not have a California License to Carry, handguns must be stored unloaded in the trunk, vehicle storage compartment or in a locked gun case. Long guns must be unloaded.

What places are off-limits when carrying a concealed weapon in California?

The following places are off limits while carrying concealed in California:

  • At a gun show or event unless you are security personnel or sworn peace officer. You cannot posses a firearm or ammo designed to be fired from that firearm at the same time (vendors exempt).
  • State Capitol, any legislative office, any office of the Governor or other constitutional officer, or any hearing room in which any committee of the Senate or Assembly is conducting a hearing, or upon the grounds of the State Capitol, which is bounded by 10th, L, 15th, and N Streets in the City of Sacramento.
  • At or in the vicinity of a polling place
  • While engaged in picketing or other informational activities in a public place relating to a concerted refusal to work
  • Courtrooms
  • Any public place or street while masked
  • Establishments where the primary purpose is dispensing alcoholic beverages for on-site consumption
  • All Public and Private K-12 Schools and College University Campuses
  • Any county property in San Francisco
  • Issuing authorities can include any reasonable restrictions or conditions to your California License to Carry

What are the laws involving alcohol and carrying a concealed weapon in California?

You cannot consume any alcoholic beverage or be in a place having a primary purpose of dispensing alcoholic beverages for on-site consumption while carrying concealed in California. You also cannot be under the influence of any medication or drug, whether prescribed or not while carrying concealed in California.

USA Carry always recommends never to carry a firearm while drinking alcohol or under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

Does California have laws for No Guns or Firearms signs?

No. “No Guns or Firearms” signs do not have the force of law in California unless it is a place that is already off-limits to carry as stated in the California State Law. But if the owner or management asks you to leave you must comply or you can be arrested for trespassing.

Does California have a Stand Your Ground Law AKA Castle Doctrine Law?

California is a state with castle law.

Any person using force intended or likely to cause death or great bodily injury within his or her residence shall be presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily injury to self, family, or a member of the household when that force is used against another person, not a member of the family or household, who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence and the person using the force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred.

Are you allowed to carry concealed in California State Parks, State & National Forests, Wildlife Management Areas, and/or Road Side Rest Areas?

State Parks: Yes
State Forests: Yes
National Forests: Yes
WMA’s: No
Road Side Rest Areas: Yes

What are the California Open Carry laws?

Please visit our California Open Carry page for more information.

Changelog

10/9/2017 – Updated and confirmed all information and updated page layout.

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  • Kardar2

     
    Where is concealed carry allowed by the license?
    Unless limited by a 12050(b) restriction on the license, a
    license is valid in the entire state.
    Specific exemptions allowing concealed carry for licensees under 12050 are
    Penal Code 171b
    public meetings
    Penal Code 171c State Capitol
    and related areas
    Penal Code 171d Governor’s mansion
    and Legislator’s residences
    Penal Code 626.9(l) School zones
    (K-12 and college/university)

    Limitations on carry
    Federal
    and local laws may limit concealed carry even for licensed individuals. Airport sterile
    areas and United States military installations are two examples.
    Courthouses and jail facilities commonly prohibit firearms, even for licensed individuals.
    San Francisco bans possession of firearms “upon public premises selling or serving alcoholic beverages” (San
    Francisco Municipal Code SEC. 3603).
    Certain
    city and county parks ordinances ban the possession of firearms and do
    not exempt PC 12050 license holders. These regulations are preempted by
    Government Code
    53071 and the Fiscal
    decision and as such are likely unenforceable against those licensed to
    carry under PC 12050. Some examples include San Mateo and Sacramento
    County Parks Ordinances.
     
     

    • Good point. Not sure why you received so many thumbs down, but…

  • Benlovesms

    Just a heads up, as of october,1,2011 open carry has been banned.                                                                                                                                                                                   im just another gun toting super liberal!!!

    • redley62

      Liberals carry guns? Oh crap, Wally….I’m outta here!

  • Fucku

    Castle doctrine: all that matters

  • M.Prinz

    My brother from OR was in CA looking for a job and was stopped for a traffic violation. The officer asked if he had any weapons in the vehicle and my brother answered yes, that he had a .22 revolver, UNLOADED, in a zipper case on the passengers seat. Not knowingly he also had a few rounds inside the zipper cased.  Needless to say he was arrested and is now charged with carrying a concealed weapon. He was released on his own recog and has a initial court date in a few weeks back in CA.  What are the possible scenerio’s that he might be facing?  Charges just dropped, fine and probation, or jail time (and if so, how long)?

    • willyyyy

      How did things pan out for your bother? I’d not be suprised if he was convicted of a 10 year prison term . . .

    • It is a known fact that our police are NOT our protectors. Calling 911 because your life is threatened will surely result in your death as the response time will never be fast enough. I have an Oregon conceal permit but will never take my loaded concealed weapon into California as California has it’s head up it’s arse when it comes to recognizing and accepting other states conceal carry permits.
      I hope your brother escaped a harsh and undeserving punishment.

      • Jerry L. Clark

        Yet we can carry in almost 22 states outside California, Thanks.

    • just a dude

      California law allows you to carry a firearm in a locked container as long as you don’t have rounds or a loaded mag inside the pistol. You are allowed to have a loaded mag in the container with the pistol. He needs to get a defense attorney to fight the charge as it sounds bogus based on the fact pattern you described. If the zipper case was unlocked then he may be in trouble.

      • Wrong! Penal code and vehicle codes are both clear on this. Must be in a separate locked container. Case law has gone so far as to say a loaded gun includes any part of the gun, including the magazine. Meaning, you “could” feasibly be charged with a loaded weapon enev if your mag is separated from the gun but you have ammo in the mag. Welcome to sunny Kalifornia

        • You are correct. Separate containers as defined by California law. To tired to find the penal code.

        • Joshua

          Wrong yourself. No such requirement. There was even a court case stating that a rifle with rounds attached on a butt carrier was fine and didn’t count as loaded. You are right that an ignorant cop might think otherwise, but he would be wrong, legally

          • Ray

            I got my CCW in Aug of 2013 here in CA. Total cost was about $300. Instructor in the class informed us of current (at that time) law concerning transport of a concealable firearm as follows. The firearm and ammunition must be transported in separate containers with at least one of them being locked. Ammo in a magazine even if located in a separate locked container is still considered a loaded firearm in the eyes of the law. Once you have a CCW you can legally carry a loaded firearm in your vehicle as long as it is the firearm identified on your card. I have a S&W M&P 40 and that’s the only weapon on my permit. If I take my friends 38 special I have to unload it and carry it in a locked container separate from the ammo. Better safe than sorry. Even though I hold a valid CCW issued within the state of CA, if I go to a county or town that has an ordinance against concealed carry, I must comply with the local laws and lock up my fire arm. Some counties do not have a specific ordinance against CCW but if local law enforcement isn’t comfortable with it, your best advised to lock it up. My instructor had that happen recently on a trip to a different county.

          • George P.

            Where did you get your ccw @? I live in murrieta and am looking into getting one.

          • Ray

            I live in Plumas county. You have to get the permit issued by the Chief of Police or the County Sherriff. Plumas county is very pro 2nd Amendment. Your best bet is to find someone that teaches the CCW class and ask them how it goes for your county. Some are easier than others and some are adamant about denying a permit. San Francisco county and city have a local ordinance against concealed carry and even though I hold a valid CCW from Plumas county, I can’t legally carry concealed in those areas.

          • jsl55

            Yes you can. From CalGunLaws – Government Code Section 53071 was interpreted favorably in 2008 in Fiscal v. City and County of San Francisco. A victory for the NRA, Fiscal struck down San Francisco’s ordinance completely banning civilian handgun possession, and banning the manufacture, distribution, and sale of firearms and ammunition within San Francisco. The Fiscal court held that Government Code Section 53701 expressly preempted the ordinance and it prevents local governments from passing ordinances that interfere with the authority granted by state-issued licenses to their holders to carry a handgun in public (“carry licenses”).

          • larryaschro

            yeah that’s totally bullshit. In other words, you don’t know CA law, yes you can concealed carry legally in San Francisco county if you have a CA CCW permit with no restrictions. California law has preemptive laws, which means, if local laws come into conflict with federal laws…guess which one has more authority? Therefore, SF county must honor your CA CCW permit obtained in another county.

          • jsl55

            A local ordinance does not preempt Kalifornia law.

          • Vicki Hampton

            true, Frisco tried to stop people from oyther counties from exercising their rights while in that city and was spanked by the coutrs

          • mamacat

            Of course you can come across an ignorant cop, but your Ca ccw permit permits you to carry anywhere in California

          • Kas

            What county you take your ccw?

          • redley62

            Yes, California, the land of fruits & nuts. A locked up gun does nobody any good when it is needed. Politically correct liberals will get their turn one day.

          • Randy

            San Fransisco tried to pass an ordinance that would not allow a ccw or state exposed weapon in their county. It was struck down really fast as a city or county can not pass laws undermining a state law or state constitution. Bottom line is if you have a proper license you may carry concealed or exposed anywhere in the state of California.

          • Hauptmann

            I’m a native Californian now living in Texas. We have no state income tax. It costs $60/year to register a new automobile. Gas costs $1.99/gallon. My electric bill is $100/mo (with A/C running all summer long). You can buy a 2,000 SF brick home in a safe, tree-lined neighborhood with good schools for under $250,000. The races all get along pretty well. There’s VERY little graffiti.

            The handgun is practically the State Flower of Texas. Most folks I know have a CFL, and carry. We can ship and receive our guns via Fed Ex or UPS without going through an FFL. We have no requirements like <10-round mags, internal locks, loaded chamber indicators. One CFL is valid for ANY number of registered or unregistered handguns. Open carry is legal. Stupid, but legal. One of our US Senators introduced a bill that would REQUIRE CFL reciprocity in all 50 states and DeeCee. It didn't pass. And no, it wasn't Ted Cruz.

            Don't get me wrong–I LOVE California, and I visit there often. But live there again? I don't think so.

          • fullyautomatic

            I too myself is a Cali native, I’m trying to move me and wifey too Euless Tx, hopefully next year I’m there…Cali is way 2 expensive

          • mark

            hah! can you name a county or town that has an ordinance against concealed carry!! all counties have a policy on issuing a ccw permit. some like San Francisco deny all permits being submitted, but no one has an ordinance nullifying the permits issued from other counties. The authority to issue permits is a state law and the permit is valid throughout the whole state.

          • Tony

            long guns are different than hand guns and the requirements. Cannot carry loaded mags in the same container as the weapon, it is considered loaded in CA. Best thing is to get to the right county and get a permit while the getting is still good. There are a few in central CA where the normal folks live.

        • manuel

          It doesn’t make any sense, if you have a gun locked in a box, in the trunk and with out any ammo. I guess that why even carry the gun if its going to be completely useless if faced in a life threatening situation.

        • Ron Cash

          Comifornia!

        • Craig

          @ danbo: the relevant Cal penal code is 12031, and states in relevant part:

          12031. (a) (1) A person is guilty of carrying a loaded firearm when he
          or she carries a loaded firearm on his or her person or in a vehicle
          while in any public place or on any public street in an incorporated
          city or in any public place or on any public street in a prohibited area
          of unincorporated territory.

          [Since this post concentrates on loaded, other parts of 12031 are omitted, including the definitions of other terms in (a)(1).]

          (g) A firearm shall be deemed to be loaded for
          the purposes of this section when there is an unexpended cartridge or
          shell, consisting of a case that holds a charge of powder and a bullet
          or shot, in, or attached in any manner to, the firearm, including, but
          not limited to, in the firing chamber, magazine, or clip thereof
          attached to the firearm;

          PC 12031 was reviewed by a California Appellate Court in San Diego. the Court’s opinion was published and can be cited as:

          People v. Clark (1996) 45 Cal.App.4th 1147 , 53 Cal.Rptr.2d 9.

          Full text of the case:

          [No. D023104. Fourth Dist

          ., Div. One. May 16, 1996.]

          THE PEOPLE, Plaintiff and Respondent

          , v. HARVEY LEE CLARK, Defendant and

          Appellant.

          (Superior Court of San Diego County,

          No. ECR10134, Allan J. Preckel, Judge.)

          (Opinion by Kremer, P. J., with

          Work and Benke, JJ., concurring.)

          COUNSEL

          Greg M. Kane, under appointment by the Court

          of Appeal, for Defendant and Appellant.

          Daniel E. Lungren, Attorney General, Ge

          orge Williamson, Chief Assistant Attorney

          General, Gary W. Schons, Assi

          stant Attorney General, Holly D. Wilkens and Bradley A.

          Weinreb, Deputy Attorneys General,

          for Plaintiff and Respondent.

          OPINION

          KREMER, P. J.

          A jury convicted Harvey Lee Clark of po

          ssession of methamphetamine (Health & Saf.

          Code, § 11377, subd. (a)), possession of metham

          phetamine while armed with a loaded,

          operable firearm (Health & Saf. Code,

          § 11370.1, subd. (a)) and being a felon in

          possession of a firearm (Pen. Code, § 12021, subd. (a)(1)). Clark admitted he had

          suffered a prior prison term w

          ithin the meaning of Penal Code section 667.5, subdivision

          (b).

          On appeal, Clark contends the court erred in

          instructing the jury on a “loaded” firearm

          and the firearm, as a matter of law, was not

          loaded. Clark also contends the evidence was

          insufficient to support a finding he possessed

          or was “armed” with a firearm, and his

          conviction for possession of methamphetamine mu

          st be reversed “because the case was a

          close one and the court committed numerous errors having a highly prejudicial

          cumulative effect.” We conclude, as a matter

          of law, the firearm here was not loaded

          within the meaning of Hea

          lth and Safety Code secti

          on 11370.1, subdivision (a) and

          accordingly, we reverse the conviction on that

          count. In all other respects, we affirm.

          Facts

          On September 1, 1994, the sheriff’s narcotic

          s unit executed a search warrant on a

          motorhome where Clark and his girl

          friend Jina Paradise were living.

          [45 Cal.App.4th

          1151]

          Among the items seized were a shotgun, a pa

          per bindle containing methamphetamine in a

          small black pouch for a muscle stimulation de

          vice belonging to Clark, a glass pipe used

          for smoking drugs and a scale. The sheriff’

          s deputies also seized a jewelry box which

          contained a plastic baggie c

          ontaining an off-white powdery

          residue, a glass container

          containing an off-white powdery substance

          inside and two straws for inhaling drugs.

          Clark told a sheriff’s deputy he had been

          living in the motorhome for three months. He

          initially denied any knowledge of the shotgun or

          the drugs but later admitted he knew the

          shotgun was in the motorhome. He stated it belonged to someone else.

          Paradise testified Clark had been living in

          the motorhome for three months; she had been

          staying there about three days.

          She had seen Clark in possessi

          on of drugs in the past. He

          kept his drugs in the black pouch. About three

          days before the search, she had used drugs

          with Clark; the drugs had been in a plas

          tic baggie. She believed the methamphetamine

          found in the motorhome belonged to Clark.

          She testified the jewelry box belonged to

          Clark although she kept a few items in there.

          Paradise testified she found the shotgun in

          the motorhome “a long time before” on the

          upper shelf of a cabinet above the bed. She to

          ld Clark about it and

          he checked into it.

          Clark surmised it belonged to the owner of

          the motorhome. The owner of the motorhome

          would come by quite often and drop off

          items and leave his clothes there.

          Clark testified he had been living in the mo

          torhome only three to four days before the

          search and that he was “tota

          lly surprised” the deputies found

          drugs inside the motorhome.

          He testified Paradise smoked methamphetamine

          and that the jewelry box, glass pipe, the

          baggies and all the drugs belonged to he

          r. Clark stated Paradise had used

          methamphetamine the night before the sear

          ch warrant was executed and was under the

          influence of drugs at the time the warrant was

          executed. He testified he did not use drugs,

          having quit in August 1988. He owned the scale

          which he used in his business of buying

          and selling scrap gold.

          As to the shotgun, Clark testified when Paradise told him about the weapon, he said he

          did not want to deal with it and Paradise agr

          eed to talk to the owner to have him remove

          the weapon. Paradise told him the owner

          had removed the weapon. Clark checked to

          make sure the shotgun had been removed and

          when he did not find it on the shelf in the

          cabinet, he assumed the owner had removed it.

          [45 Cal.App.4th 1152]

          Discussion

          I. Whether Shotgun was Loaded

          [1a] Clark was convicted of possessing meth

          amphetamine “while armed with a loaded,

          operable firearm” in violation of Health

          and Safety Code section 11370.1, subdivision (a)

          (italics added). He contends the court erre

          d in instructing the jury on what the term

          “loaded” means and argues the shotgun here

          , as a matter of law, was not loaded. He

          objected to the court’s definition of the term

          loaded and made a motion for acquittal on

          the Health and Safety Code section 11370.1, subdi

          vision (a) count because, as a matter of

          law, the shotgun was not loaded.

          The shotgun here is a single-shot shotgun. Wh

          en the police seized

          the shotgun, it did not

          have a shell in the firing chamber. There were

          , however, three shells located in a covered

          compartment at the rear of the shotgun’s stock.

          It is not possible to fire a shell from that

          location; a shell would have

          to be removed from the compartment and placed by hand in

          the chamber before it could be fired. A sheriff’

          s deputy testified the shells were located in

          a “storage area.”

          Health and Safety Code section 11370.1 does not contain a definition of the term

          “loaded.” The trial court relied on the defin

          ition of “loaded” cont

          ained in Penal Code

          section 12031. Penal Code sect

          ion 12031 punishes the carrying

          of a loaded firearm in

          public or in a vehicle. Subdivision (g) of

          Penal Code section 12031 provides: “A firearm

          shall be deemed to be loaded for the purposes

          of this section when

          there is an unexpended

          cartridge or shell, consisting of a case whic

          h holds a charge of powder and a bullet or

          shot, in, or attached in any manner to, the fi

          rearm, including, but not limited to, in the

          firing chamber, magazine, or clip thereof at

          tached to the firearm;

          except that a muzzle-

          loader firearm shall be deemed to be load

          ed when it is capped or primed and has a

          powder charge and ball or shot in the barrel or cylinder.” (Italics added.)

          Using this definition, the court told the jury

          “A shotgun is deemed to be ‘loaded’ when

          there is an unexpended shell … in, or attached in any manne

          r to, the shotgun.”

          The Attorney General argues the court’s inst

          ruction was correct a

          nd the shotgun here was

          “loaded” within the meaning of Health

          and Safety Code section 11370.1, subdivision (a)

          because the shotgun shells, located in a stor

          age compartment in the rear of the stock,

          were “attached” to the shotgun.

          [45 Cal.App.4th 1153]

          We find this argument unpersuasive. We first obs

          erve, that in genera

          l, the language of a

          statute is to be given “its

          usual, ordinary import.” (Quint

          ano v. Mercury Casualty Co.

          (1995)

          11 Cal.4th 1049

          , 1055 [48 Cal.Rptr.2d 1, 907 P.2d 1057]; Lungren v. Deukmejian

          (1988)

          45 Cal.3d 727

          , 735 [248 Cal.Rptr. 115, 755 P.2d 299].)

          The term “loaded” has a commonly understood m

          eaning: “to put a load or charge in (a

          device or piece of equipment) a gun” or “to

          put a load on or in a carrier, device, or

          container; esp: to insert the charge or cartri

          dge into the chamber of a firearm.” (Webster’s

          New Collegiate Dict. (1976) p. 674.) Under

          the commonly understood meaning of the

          term “loaded,” a firearm is “loaded” when

          a shell or cartridge has been placed into a

          position from which it can be fire

          d; the shotgun is not “loaded”

          if the shell or cartridge is

          stored elsewhere and not yet placed in a firi

          ng position. The shells here were placed in a

          separate storage compartment of the shotgun a

          nd were not yet “loaded” as the term is

          commonly understood.

          There is nothing in Health and Safety Code section 11370.1 which indicates the

          Legislature did not intend to use the term

          “loaded” in its commonly understood meaning.

          We note Penal Code section 12031 states it is defining the term “loaded” “for the

          purposes of this section” (Pen. Code, § 12031, s

          ubd. (g)); it does not state it is applicable

          to a Health and Safety Code offense nor

          does Health and Safety Code section 11370.1

          refer to the Penal Code definition.

          Second, even if we were to accept the Attorney

          General’s assertion that the definition of

          “loaded” contained in Penal Code section

          12031, subdivision (g) applies to Health and

          Safety Code section 11370.1, subdivision (a),

          we would still concl

          ude the shotgun here

          was not loaded.

          [2] A statute “must be given a reasonable

          and commonsense interpretation consistent

          with the apparent purpose and intention of the

          Legislature, practical rather than technical

          in nature, and which, when applied, will result

          in wise policy rather than mischief or

          absurdity. [Citations.]” (Beaty v. Im

          perial Irrigation Dist. (1986)

          186 Cal.App.3d 897

          ,

          902 [231 Cal.Rptr. 128].) “The words must be c

          onstrued in context in

          light of the nature

          and obvious purpose of the statute where they

          appear. [Citation.]” (Decker v. City of

          Imperial Beach (1989)

          209 Cal.App.3d 349

          , 354 [257 Cal.Rptr. 356]; Lakin v. Watkins

          Associated Industries (1993)

          6 Cal.4th 644

          , 659 [25 Cal.Rptr.2d 109, 863 P.2d 179].)

          [1b] The Attorney General urge

          s a literal interpretation should

          be adopted, i.e., that if an

          unexpended shell is “attached in any manner” to a

          [45 Cal.App.4th 1154]

          firearm, then

          the firearm is loaded, regardless of whether

          the shell has been attached in a manner in

          which it can be fired from the firearm. This literal interpretation, while supported by

          words contained in the statute,

          does not appear to comport

          with the legislative intent.

          The Legislature in Penal Code section 12031,

          subdivision (g), provided some examples

          of how a shell would be “attached

          ” to a firearm so that the firearm is loaded, i.e., in the

          firing chamber, magazine or clip; situations in

          which the firearm woul

          d be “loaded” in the

          usual meaning of the word, i.e., the shell is

          placed in a position from which it can be

          fired. Significantly, the Legislature also provi

          ded that a muzzle-loader firearm must be

          capped or primed, have a powder charge and

          ball in the barrel or cylinder before it is

          deemed “loaded,” again a definition which is

          consistent with the common meaning of the

          term “loaded,” i.e., ready for firing.

          Given the examples are all consistent with

          an intent to use

          the common meaning of

          “loaded,” it follows the Legisl

          ature’s use of the phrase “attached in any manner” to the

          firearm was intended to encompass a situa

          tion where a shell or cartridge might be

          attached to a firearm or “loaded” for firing by some unconventional method. The phrase

          does not demonstrate a clear Le

          gislative intent to deem a firearm loaded no matter how a

          shell is attached to a firearm; in particular

          , it does not indicate a cl

          ear intent to deem a

          gun “loaded” when the ammunition, as here, is

          in a storage compartment which is not

          equivalent to either a magazine or clip

          and from which the ammunition cannot be fired.

          Our conclusion that the Legisl

          ature intended “loaded” as us

          ed in Penal Code section

          12031 to reflect the common definition is s

          upported by the court in People v. Heffner

          (1977)

          70 Cal.App.3d 643

          , 650 [139 Cal.Rptr. 45], which reached the same conclusion

          (“the apparent purpose [of the ‘loaded’ definiti

          on] is to make it clear that for purpose of

          section 12031 the usual meaning of

          ‘loaded firearm’ is to a

          pply.”). In Heffner, the court

          noted when the Legislature adopted Penal

          Code section 12031, it also adopted another

          Penal Code statute which contained a special

          definition of “loaded,” i.e., that a firearm

          was loaded if the firearm and unexpended a

          mmunition were in the

          immediate possession

          of the same person. This definition applied to

          the offenses of bringi

          ng a “loaded” firearm

          into certain state governmental offices and

          residences of certain state officers and

          legislators. (People v. Heffner, supra, 70

          Cal.App.3d at p. 650; Pen. Code, § 171e.) Since

          Heffner, the Legislature has adopted this specia

          l definition of “loaded” for the offense of

          carrying a loaded firearm with an intent to commit a felony. (Pen. Code,

          [45 Cal.App.4th

          1155]

          §§ 12001, subd. (j); 12023.)

          fn. 1

          Significantly, the Legi

          slature has not amended

          the common definition of “loaded” as used

          in section 12031 nor elected to provide a

          specialized definition of “loaded” for

          Health and Safety Code section 11370.1.

          The Attorney General argues we should adopt an

          expansive definition of “loaded” in light

          of the Legislature’s general concern with

          increasing punishment for those who possess

          firearms and our Supreme Court’s recogniti

          on the presence of firearms and drugs

          increases the potential for death or

          injury. (See People v. Bland (1995)

          10 Cal.4th 991

          ,

          1001-1002 [43 Cal.Rptr.2d 77, 898 P.2d 391].) Wh

          ile this argument could support a

          specialized and expansive defini

          tion of “loaded” for a viol

          ation of Health and Safety

          Code section 11370.1, subdivision (a), it does not establish such a definition was

          intended. Had the Legislature intended to appl

          y a specialized defin

          ition of “loaded” for

          Health and Safety Code section 11370.1

          encompassing the situation where the

          ammunition was stored in or adjacent to a fi

          rearm, they easily could have so provided.

          They, however, did no

          t elect to do so.

          Finally, we note that at

          most the Attorney General has ra

          ised a potential ambiguity in the

          use of the term “loaded.” [3] As Clark correctly

          observes, ambiguities in statutes are to be

          construed in favor of the defenda

          nt; ” ‘ “[t]he defendant is ent

          itled to the benefit of every

          reasonable doubt, whether it arise out of a questi

          on of fact, or as to

          the true interpretation

          of words or the construction

          of language used in a statut

          e. [Citation.]” ‘ ” (People v.

          Garfield (1985)

          40 Cal.3d 192

          , 200 [219 Cal.Rptr. 196, 707 P.2d 258].) [1c] Thus, to the

          extent an ambiguity exists between whether th

          e Legislature intended th

          e term “loaded” to

          be used in its ordinary sense (i.e., a shell placed in a position

          ready to be fired) or to be

          used in an unusual sense (i.e., including a

          shell placed in a storage compartment from

          which it cannot be fired), we adopt the constr

          uction more favorable to Clark, i.e., that the

          term was intended to be used in its ordina

          ry sense and that the shotgun here was not

          loaded.

          We conclude the court erred in denying Clar

          k’s motion for acquittal on the Health and

          Safety Code section 11370.1 count. As a matter of law, the shotgun here was not

          “loaded” within the meaning of Health and Safety Code section 11370.1.

          fn. 2

          [45

          Cal.App.4th 1156]

          II. Sufficiency of Evidence-Possession of a Firearm by a Felon

          [4] Clark contends the evidence was insufficien

          t to sustain his conviction of being a felon

          in possession of a firearm. He argues the

          People failed to prove he had knowledge he

          possessed the firearm.

          In viewing the sufficiency of the evidence,

          we view the evidence in the light most

          favorable to the judgment, drawing all reason

          able inferences in its support. (People v.

          Pensinger (1991)

          52 Cal.3d 1210

          , 1236 [278 Cal.Rptr. 640, 805 P.2d 899].) We do not

          reweigh the evidence or reeval

          uate the credibility of witnesses. (People v. Ochoa (1993)

          6 Cal.4th 1199

          , 1206 [26 Cal.Rptr.2d 23, 864 P.2d 103].) Here, there was evidence,

          favorable to the judgment and sufficient to

          support it, indicating Clark had knowledge of

          the shotgun: he admitted to a sheriff’s deputy on the day of the search he knew the

          shotgun was in the motorhome.

          III. Possession of Methamphetamine

          Clark contends his conviction for possession

          of methamphetamine must be reversed

          because the case was close and the tria

          l court committed numerous errors which

          cumulatively prejudiced his case.

          Clark first points to the erroneous instructi

          on on the term “loaded.” While this was clearly

          prejudicial error as to the

          charge of violating Health and Safety Code section 11370.1, it

          did not prejudice the jury’s c

          onsideration of the wholly separate matter of whether Clark

          possessed methamphetamine. The evidence involving the methamphetamine was distinct

          and the jury received complete a

          nd proper instructions on the issue.

          [5] Clark next asserts the court

          erred in refusing to admit results of Paradise’s urine test

          for drugs at the time of her arrest. There wa

          s no error. The court sustained two objections

          to questions Clark’s attorney asked to elicit

          the results of Paradise’s urine test. Both

          objections were properly sustai

          ned. Clark first attempted to elicit the information from a

          sheriff’s deputy who neither conducted the

          test nor knew the test results. The court

          properly sustained an objection base

          d on hearsay and lack of foundation.

          [45

          Cal.App.4th 1157]

          Clark then attempted to elicit the test results from Paradise herself.

          Paradise, however, (as the court ruled) was not

          competent to testify as to the results of the

          test since she did not conduct the test.

          [6] Clark, citing Brady v. Maryland (1963)

          373 U.S. 83 [10 L.Ed.2d 215, 83 S.Ct. 1194],

          next asserts the sheriff’s department’s refusal

          to obtain a urine sample from him deprived

          him of potentially exculpatory evidence.

          Initially, we note Clark does

          not point to any place in th

          e record where he requested

          sanctions for the alleged failure of the police to obtain urine samples.

          Second, we note the sheriff’s department does

          not have a “duty to obtain evidence which

          may aid a criminal defendant, at least where

          the evidence is not known by the police to be

          exculpatory. [Citation.]”

          (People v. Bothuel (1988)

          205 Cal.App.3d 581

          , 594 [252

          Cal.Rptr. 596], fn. omitted, disapproved on other grounds in People v. Scott (1994)

          9

          Cal.4th 331

          , 347 [36 Cal.Rptr.2d 627, 885 P.2d 1040]; s

          ee also People v. Beeler (1995)

          9

          Cal.4th 953

          , 976 [39 Cal.Rptr.2d 607, 891 P.2d 153].) The exculpatory value of the

          evidence here was not apparent at the time.

          Third, we note Clark has not established the sh

          eriff’s department refused to obtain a urine

          sample. There is no ruling on this issue and

          the evidence presented was in conflict. Clark

          testified he made repeated requests for

          a urine test, but ther

          e was other testimony

          indicating Clark made no such requests. There was also evidence that after being

          permitted to use the bathroom in the main

          house on the property during the search Clark

          was unable to provide a urine sample and became so combative that the deputies declined

          to attempt to take a blood sample. Thus, Clark

          has failed to establish error in this regard,

          including his assertion the sheriff’s depa

          rtment refused to obtain a urine sample.

          [7] Clark finally contends the court erred in

          not sanitizing one of hi

          s prior convictions to

          delete all references to drugs. Clark sought to sanitize a prior

          felony conviction for

          possession of drugs for sale if he elected to

          take the stand and the prosecutor sought to

          impeach him with it. The court ruled that

          if Clark testified, the prosecutor would be

          limited to referring to the conviction as “drug

          -related” rather than

          as possession of drugs

          for sale.

          Even if we were to conclude the court abus

          ed its discretion in not

          further sanitizing the

          prior conviction, we would not reverse. Initia

          lly, we note Clark gave a long response to

          the question of whether he had been convict

          ed of a drug-related felony, detailing the

          circumstances of his arrest and guilty plea,

          [45 Cal.App.4th 1158]

          asserting the drugs

          found in the earlier incident

          did not belong to him, he was innocent and only pleaded

          guilty because he was advised to do so. Clark thus placed before the jury his position that

          although previously convicted,

          the conviction was wrongful.

          fn. 3

          Moreover, it is highly unlikel

          y the verdict would have b

          een different had the prior

          conviction been sanitized. There was abunda

          nt evidence that methamphetamine was

          located in the motorhome where Clark wa

          s staying. This case involved a simple

          credibility contest, i.e., whether to believe Paradise or Clark as to who owned the drugs.

          Clark’s credibility was severely impeached by

          other facts, in particular, his testimony he

          was “totally surprised” drugs were found in

          the motorhome and yet he had seen Paradise

          using drugs the night before and believed

          she was under the influence at the time the

          search warrant was executed.

          No reversal of Clark’s convi

          ction for possession of methamphetamine is merited based on

          any accumulation of errors.

          Disposition

          The conviction for possession of methamphetamine while armed with a loaded, operable

          firearm in violation of Health and Safety

          Code section 11370.1 is reversed. In all other

          respects, the judgment is affirmed.

          Work, J., and Benke, J., concurred.

          FN 1.

          The Attorney General contends the defini

          tions of loaded contained in Penal Code

          sections 171e and 12001, subdivision (j) are

          applicable. There is no merit to this

          contention. Those sections, by their terms, clear

          ly only apply to specified offenses (i.e.,

          Pen. Code, §§ 171c, 171d & 12023) and are not gene

          rally applicable definitions of the

          term “loaded.”

          FN 2.

          Since we reverse Clark’s Health and

          Safety Code section 11370.1, subdivision (a)

          conviction we need not consid

          er whether he was “armed” within the meaning of that

          statute. We note his argument is based on a

          premise he was not “armed” because he was

          not carrying the firearm and after his arrest

          he did not have access to the firearm were

          rejected by the Supreme Court in People v. Bland, supra,

          10 Cal.4th 991

          , 1002-1005.

          FN 3.

          We also note Clark’s long explanation where

          he attempted to shift blame (as in this

          case) was probably more harmful to his case th

          an would have been a simple admission of

          having been convicted of a drug-re

          lated felony many years earlier.

      • An empty gun is a paper weight.

    • MichaelCrackMonkey

      First mistake was keeping the gun on the front seat. 2nd was telling the Cop he had a gun in the car not in the trunk. Hide the gun and simply say no I have no weapons. Cops lie all the time and since it was a simple traffic stop it was a standard question. They won’t bother to search you unless you give them reason to. Obviously in CA Never give the Cops reason just be nice, sign the ticket, and be on your way. Generally if you are respectful they won’t bother you but if you give them reason they will ruin your day. California COPS are notorious for being Gestapo like especially in Orange County.

      • larryaschro

        Not good advice. Do not lie to the police. Be respectful, tell the truth. If you travel to CA often, get a CA CCW permit. There are a few counties that are very easy to obtain a CCW, one of those is Butte County and the other is Shasta County. When you apply for your permit in CA, explain to the sheriff you are traveling a lot through CA and need protection for business. In those two counties, they will understand.

      • Surfer

        But i thought Orange County was one of most pro gun county of California?

        • MichaelCrackMonkey

          Orange County is controlled by an intolerant Nazi Gestapo police agencies. They are always looking for a chance to kill someone regardless of race. They prefer to gang up and beat you to death rather than shoot.

      • Sean

        Never lie to a cop. Simply don’t answer any questions. Period.

    • mike

      In Mn if you are get stopped and have a concealed weapon without a permanent. You get $1000 dollar fine and 90 days in jail no questions asked. Not sure the law in that shit state.

    • Pat Fox

      hangin probably !!!! this is commifornia afterall !!!!

  • I called the sheriff’s office in San Jose in the early 90’s to obtain a conceal carry permit application. I was told on the phone they no longer issued concealed carry permits. That was a canned reply to my request. I persisted and about a week later I received the application. It was approximately 10 full pages front and back. A physical examination was required as was a mental health evaluation. The fees at the time were exorbitant and included a large sum that if the application was denied, for any reason, would not be refunded. Total fees were close to $500.00. There are many ways to say ‘NO’ if they don’t want you to have the permit. Rediculous fees are one way. Making you jump through many troublesome hoops is another.

    In Oregon the application is one page of instruction and a half page of required information. Finger printing and back ground check is required as is a one day class on hand gun proficiency. Total fees approx. $75 for a 5 year permit. Contrary to anti-gun advocates we do not have shoot outs in the streets. An armed society is a polite society.
    Chicago and Washing DC have the toughest gun laws in the country. They also have the highest murder rates.

    • Bill

      “Chicago and Washington DC have the toughest gun laws in the country. They also have the highest murder rates.”

      Yeah, and we all know the real reason why. It’s the same reason why we want a conceal carry permit in the first place.

    • Marc Santos

      so can you get it in san jose

      • If you are willing to jump through all of the hoops and pay the bucks you may be able to get a permit. My experience in San Jose was in the early 90’s. Don’t know if their policy has changed. You may have to insist on them giving you the application as way back then they were not at all interested in sending one to me. Good luck.

    • Ron Cash

      Do you know if in Oregon they make you list the actual gun you will carry? Here in CA some counties require you to list the gun and some allow 3 guns to be listed, while my county only allows one. I plan on moving to Oregon in a couple yrs, so am curious if they have those silly restrictions on CCW. Probably will move to Beaverton or around there.

      • I live in Oregon and have a ccw permit. They DO NOT ask what guns you will carry.

  • MJ Badagliacco

    All of these so called “LAWS” are ALL BS!!! The 2nd Amendment says that I have the RIGHT to keep and BEAR arms and that RIGHT SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!

    Additionally, the SCOTUS has ruled that, …concerning fundamental RIGHTS, a law cannot convert that RIGHT into a privilege… When you require a PERMIT, you just made it a “privilege”…

    Can SOMEONE tell me how ANY concealed carry “law” is allowed to stay on the book???

    • Cuz our entire government consists of the dumbest people on earth! One law for ALL states…and that law should be based on the second amendment, not what some douche bag politician thinks/wants

      • Joe

        Yes, this country was built by the best and the
        brightest and now it is run by the dumb and the dumbest—starting with the 1/2 breed in the white house

      • The government is populated by dumb people because the citizens allow it

    • retired_sandman

      Well, now you’re talking US Constitution. In Illinois, for example, an individual was arrested for using a gun to defend his home against a home invasion. The perp stole the homeowners car keys to drive himself to the hospital and the homeowner went to the pokey.

      Subsequently, there was an attempt in the state legislature to pass a law protecting a homeowner defending his home in this fashion. In the senate, I do believe the only lawmaker to vote against it was one young senator barack obama.

      Be very careful asserting a constitutional claim. The states infringe on it in any variety of ways. Sounds like they do so in CA.

      • Law enforcement is taught to scrutinize those who speak of the Constitution.

        If ever encountered by the executive branch of government, it is in your best interest to say as little as possible. And I mean just your name and name only, validated by giving them your ID.

        It will probably ruin your life, but you won’t be in jail.

        Tough call. Talking and going to jail for a while, and not talking, and hopefully, only going to jail for a little while. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

      • Bob Griffin

        The main thing with defending yourself via the constitution is that you must have a lawyer who specializes in Constitutional Law, not some hick who thinks he knows.

      • joe

        You can buy insurance from a company called “The second Call” sponsored by the NRA

    • Lorin Partain

      I suppose the argument could be made that there is no right to conceal, therefore a permit. However since some states, including CA now thanks to Jerry Brown, have banned open carry the concealed becomes the only other way to bear a weapon making it the de facto right. To be consistent, I know were talking about politicians here, but to be consistent the states should be constitutionally prohibited from disallowing open carry if they are going to permit concealed carry.

  • Effx

    I agree with one of the recent comments read, “Cuz our entire government consists of the dumbest people on earth! One law for ALL states…and that law should be based on the second amendment, not what some douche bag politician thinks/wants…” Really make complete sense.

    • Bill Fritz

      Sorry, but I do not think we have the dumbest people on earth. We have the best government that money can buy

      • dntmizme

        U said it “money” can buy i wonder how much they sold out for

      • Mindi

        Exactly right Bill!

    • Mike

      I feel there should be one law passed that all states ate the same. If you have a percent to carry every state should except it. The federal. Government should should step in and fix this. One should not have to worry about each state and what there law reads. Just me thinking out loud.

      • warrantone

        My God, NO! Don’t give the feds any more power. If they have the power to permit, they will use it to not permit.

      • Jeff Bills

        That would take a constitutional amendment by at least 34 states….

      • Eddie

        I have a ccw from Florida I had to go though all the steps to get my ccw why does calif not except this is the money are what I will pay the fees I just want to transfer my cow to calif.

    • Jerry L. Clark

      There is one law for all states, it’s called the Constitution. It’s just that many sheriff’s and Chiefs will supersede the law and not allow CCW’s.

  • lmortimeyer

    If you have a current CA CWP, and move to NV and also obtain one there, can you still legally carry in CA, even though you have moved?

    • For thirty days. After that, no.

      • Gun Packin Granny

        I have 2 CCW permits. Arizona and Utah. Combined I am covered for nearly every state. I was raised in California and my family all still lives there. As a child I was raised with weapons and had a licensed .22 semi riffle. I just came back home from there because I had to go to a Funeral. I took my .38 special with me as I traveled alone and had to use the HWY 5 from bottom to top. Just shy of 1000 miles each direction. Knowing about the variety of personalities that travel that rout, I had my baby right next to me. She was locked in a zipper holster and she was also safety key locked. I believe that it is my right to bear arms and I believe in the Stand your ground law. I also believe that not everyone should be permitted to carry a weapon. Perhaps if we all had to have a mental evaluation, there would be less permits given. However anyone who wants a gun will get it. Permit or not! As technology gets better so does the ability to acquire a weapon. Just spend $1000. on a 3 D printer and you have a non traceable gun. I have paid that much for my permits, weapon, holster, ammo, eye protection and hearing protection. Not to forget Targets. I came to this page as I was considering the possibility of acquiring the California permit. However I now feel that is not necessary. I do not live in that state and when I travel, I will just make sure that I continue to keep her double locked and secured.

        • Hunter Thompson

          There is only one or two designs for a fully 3D printed gun, and they are single shot plinkers that are rendered useless after one or two shots, even more unreliable than the old liberator 45 hahhahaha (gun nuts start chuckling) Most of what’s being printed is AR lowers, even those have yet to pass 500 rounds. Barrels are still traceable which you’ll have to buy therefore recorded. cheers mate!

          • Jim

            AR uppers are not considered guns so no paper trail is generated as long as you pay cash. Buy an 80% lower and complete yourself not traceable.

          • Jim

            AR uppers are not considered guns so no paper trail is generated as long as you pay cash. Buy an 80% lower and complete yourself not traceable.

        • mamacat

          I also am a “gun packin granny”, but if you do not have a ca ccw permit, you will have your gun confiscated and you will be arrested if you are stopped.

        • mamacat

          California does not recognize other state’s ccw permits.

        • 2Aliberator

          Its noones right to tell people they cant carry. thats why we use a backgroud check for mental and criminal histories. DUH. I question your support for the Second Amendment, i really do…

    • KheSahn068

      You have to be a resident of California inb order to keep your permit. However, you do not have to be a resident of a Nevada to have theirs. I have a CCW from CA (resident), NV and Florida, which gives me the right to carry legally in 37 states. However, I had to go to NV and take their course and apply their; Florida was a bonus that comes with NV CCW if you want it and are willing to pay the fee’s. NV’s permits are good for 5 years; FL permits are good for 7 years.

      • JustIce

        How did you get a CCW in Cali? I am moving from PA and have a CCW from there and Tennessee (allowed to carry in 43 states with combined – of course Cali not included) I’ve been told to kiss my CCW rights away because it is “impossible” to get a Cali CCW. My wife is attending UCLA for her doctorate so we will be living in Los Angeles proper. No records, no warrants, sound mind and body, former military… any chance?

        • John McDonald

          I have a CCW in California. I have had it for 11 years and it was easy. Arkansas will not honor it because I had to have too much training to obtain it. My family in Arkansas have permits also and went through a tenth of the training and background check.

        • John McDonald

          Not only do you have to clean but you have to show a need to get one in California. California is a may issue state, not a shall issue state.

        • jsl55

          Not much of a chance in L.A. county. The closest county to L.A. that has a Sheriff that respects our Constitution is Kern county.

  • LennyB

    Ok What the Hell we all Honor California CCW Permits but California will not Honor Our Permit. its time we all boot California out of the honor system until they learn to play Ball

  • LennyB

    everyone neede to ban together and file a class action Case against California

    • Aaron

      San Diego County lost their case dealing with CCP. They can no longer require you to “provide good cause” for the permit as the Supreme Court found this a violation of the second amendment.

      • Heather Wilson

        Exactly. “Good cause” IS our Second Amendment.

      • Im still confused what that means. So i could go and fill out the application and in the box that asks for good cause I can just say “Self defense” and nothing more?

        • Fen

          A better response, and what I put on my form 4s (for SBRs and Suppressors) is “All lawful purposes”

        • Guest

          orange county, I put self defense and had no problem,

        • Roger

          Correct

        • Red West

          Per the Sheriff in my County (granted, El Dorado County has a real Sheriff and is one of the few places in California that still respects the constitution)… I’d listed a paragraph outlining why. They replaced it with “Personal Protection” and approved it. That’s all that’s required, and that’s all that’s recommended.

          • m.j.

            When I moved to Mendocino County they are questioning my CCW because I work an hour and a half away or two hours with traffic away. I’ve been waiting six months for an answer where normally it takes about 30 days.

          • Jerry L. Clark

            You can get it in the county where you live or the county where you work. Check with your City Attorney.

          • Jerry L. Clark

            You can get it in the county where you live or the county where you work. Check with your City Attorney.

          • mrk

            Mj….that is because you live in a very lib county. Now, they should be able to grow their bud….and use lots of guns to defend that cash crop…but they are libs and u r not. Because you would likely question why you didn’t get a concealed weapons permit when other people are, they think they’re very smart by simply not acting on your application. Their elitist attitude is stunning. Guys like Sean penn running around with lots of guns….but then is anti gun for all the little people. Don’t worry, if SHTF day ever comes, guess who is going to be the most unprepared. Not us brother.

          • Anonymous

            Just for the sake of speaking out for what seems to be a minority, I generally identify as a liberal and am still a firm believer in a citizen’s right to lawfully own firearms.
            I’ve been interested in getting my permit for a while now and am looking to go ahead and request my application.

            Not every liberal feels as strongly about gun control as many would have you think. 8^)

          • theresasheridan

            Tulare and Fresno counties are both very pro-gun, I’ve had permits in both counties. They were not difficult to get, however I was told in both counties that self defense by itself was not good enough cause.

          • Jon Satko

            I received my permit in Tulare County in March 2016 (about two weeks ago). I wrote “Personal protection for self and family.”

          • Tasha Anderson

            Can u tell me the process a lil better? Where to start?

        • Jerry L. Clark

          best three reasons.
          It’s my 2nd Amendment right
          I have a business or home I would like to protect
          I carry large sums of money for business or pleasure

          • Joe.

            I just wrote, its my 2nd Amendment right and it was not questioned. Mendocino County. Great Sheriff who believes in the 2nd.

          • Tony Sivadge

            Think this will work? I play drums and am alone late at night loading thousands of dollars worth of gear into my vehicle.

          • Jerry L. Clark

            On the application just explain that you have a second ammendment right to carry arms with their permission. show the respect. You carry expensive equipment along with pay for you gigs, and that you are of good character.

          • Tony Sivadge

            I’ll try that, thanks

      • Enuf Alrdy

        This was just overturned on appeal. “Good Cause” is back on the table. 🙁

        • Red West

          Wasn’t overturned per se… 9th agreed to hear it with full panel. But either way, this has already been lost by the gov at the SCOTUS level. They’ve already confirmed rights not only to keep, but the BEAR… Unless there is a disqualifying reason (i.e. felony conviction, etc.), u should need no cause beyond “2A”. That’s it. CA can fight all they way, but they’ll lose.

          • Enuf Alrdy

            Hmm.. It’s still a mandatory requirement here in San Bernardino County. Interesting.

          • tearfang

            //CA can fight all they way, but they’ll lose.// Now that Scalia is dead, it will be a 4-4 ties at the supreme level. Ties uphold the lower court’s decision. Since the 9th circuit court is directly under the supreme court, the effectively means that whatever the en banc 9th circuit decides will likely stand.

      • m.j.

        Yet they still don’t issue

      • Ken Bennett

        Aaron, I believe what you are saying is partially right. It was a 3 member panel of the California Supreme Court that said it was unconstitutional to ask for justification to carry a concealed weapon. Now that another federal court, I think in L.A., contradicted this ruling the state attorney general has now asked for a full representation of the California Supreme court to judge its merits. As far as I know that is where it is at. However, if you live in Kern county the county sheriff is not asking for justification.

    • Spawn Brimstone

      Class action for what?

      • Red West

        Denial of constitutional rights? Just a thought.

        • Bigots begone

          I think he’s referring to “class action” generally being misunderstood.

    • The United States

    • Richard Daniels

      Everyone needs to band together and get rid of these fucking weapons so assholes like YOU will move to Texas

      • Richard Newman

        PHUCK YOU ASSHOLE ! I WILL KEEP MY GUN BECAUSE OF SHIT LIKE YOU !

        • Brannon Richmond

          This is the reason assholes like him don’t want explosive assholes like to be armed near them.

  • Adam

    I have a NV CCW permit but I am moving to California, Will I still be able to keep/ use my NV CCW? I still own property in NV and I will commute back every month for military duty if that makes a difference.

    • Art

      yes you can keep your Nevada permit but you can’t carry concealed in California, and you should contact Nevada of your move so they can change your address, I have a CCW for Nevada and i live in California.

  • tom ketchum

    Ha, on the description of his glock 26 it says caliber=26

  • oboma

    CA is full of liberal regulators That is why our crime rate is so hi. Criminals are armed but you will have to pay and fight until your out of breath for a right that has been taken away from you.

  • JR

    If I have a CA CCW can I carry a loaded pistol in my aacar does it have to be on my body?

    • larryaschro

      lol no, but if you have a CA CCW, why don’t you carry on your body?

  • Free citizen

    God bless freedom

    -poor wilderness treader

  • wolf

    The Best County to get your CCW in California is Sutter County , cause they straight out tell you to self protection is good cause . And they instruct you to put that on your app. 6 months residency, I called the Sheriffs Office set up my meeting. The meeting went well, 8 weeks later I received my CCW, $132 dollars total.

    • Northcoast

      I recently received my CCW license out of Humboldt county, the process was fairly clear, background check, pay the $130, do the finger printing and photo, all at the courthouse. I waited for about three weeks and then received a call to set up an interview. During the interview I had to bring my guns in unloaded and locked in a container so they can take the numbers, then a few weeks later I went down and picked up my CCW license. I am a small business owner so that helped and I spend lots of time working in Humboldt county’s rural areas. but many other folks here have permits too, you don’t have to be a business owner. I have three guns on my license, 380, 40 , and .45…….figured the 50 Caliber would be too difficult to conceal. I’m so glad I left Sonoma/Marin county region….where nobody gets a license. The political correctness is just stupid down there..

      • Northcoast

        Forgot to mention that I also had to take the gun safety class, and pass the firing range tests. That added to the cost which totaled around $300. Humboldt and Mendocino county Sheriff’s are gun friendly to a certain extent, but not overly friendly. But I was satisfied at with my experience obtaining my license, the Sheriff deputy that interviewed me was respectful and an overall nice dude.

        • Bob Griffin

          I’m curious whether my 20 years of qualifying in the military would be a substitute for taking a gun safety course… probably not here in California.

      • redley62

        Well, they make it stupid because even though they can’t just confiscate your guns, they can make it almost impossible for you to use it if you have to. Transporting a gun and ammo through California in separate locked containers is a joke. ….and the illegal guy travels around with a loaded gun in his pants. California state is one of the most PC BS state in the country.
        Wait!! Can you give me a few minutes Mr. Criminal? I need to go back to my car trunk for a minute to unlock two containers for my gun and ammo. Will be right back. Don’t run off now!

        • larryaschro

          Actually,
          You don’t have to lock your gun in the trunk. any more. The gun and ammo must be separate, locked up, and out of reach. This does not mean in the trunk. This is a little improvement. In case you need to get into your gun box in the back seat and unlock it.

          • redley62

            Thanks for the heads up on carrying
            weapon through CA. They make it hard
            to protect oneself don’t they?

    • mamacat

      I live in Shasta County and we have a pro 2nd amendment sheriff. Very easy to get a ccw here.

      • larryaschro

        I live in Shasta County too! However, Deputy Mike Paisley will make it difficult for you in an interview if you have any misdemeanors or civil complaints for you. He actually tries to piss you off to see what you are made of.

    • larryaschro

      Hey that’s really cool, thanks for the info. Question, what makes it the best? Because it’s the easiest and fastest process? I’ve always thought that Butte or Shasta county was the fastest and easiest.

  • ch3ch2oh

    Sucks to live in California

    • Dr. Johnny Nacho

      A comment like that only has one question….”Have you ever been to California?”

    • Jerry L. Clark

      The greatest state in the country if you live in the realistic counties of the NorCal above San Francisco.

      • Mike

        I live in Sonoma County. No permit will be issued by the Sheriff unless it is a rich crony.

      • mscott5206

        Or South in the many counties that issue.

  • Dudes

    We just need to vote a pro gun house and senate staff so that we can have cool guns here

  • bobokittyfuck

    This is all a bunch of horse shit. I carry every day. My permit is the second amendment. No one will ever know unless I need it. I’d rather be judged by twelve than carried by six.

    • Zack Corley

      Whoa, so true.

    • Bigpappa

      You are 100% right my friend! I have carried handguns without any “permit” for years. Once time I drew my weapon when two low life’s tried to rob me @ knife point. Luckily they ran away. You think the police care? They have no duty to protect you. I live in the real world.

    • I agree. If there comes a day when conceal permits are revoked or denied I’ll carry illegally. Don’t tell anyone.

    • cali

      Instant incarceration.

      • Not likely. Less than 1% of the 40,000 new laws written Annually go enforced, yeah, I am estimating. But to the point, the chances of a law abiding citizen being frisked for a cw are far less than that same citizen being violently attacked. I like my odds better.

        • Jeff Bills

          If you are in a situation to get frisked, then the cops don’t think you are a law-abiding citizen. If you are a law-abiding citizen, then you likely aren’t in a situation to get frisked…

          • Ben

            It’s hilarious to think that only law-abiding people get stopped and frisked by police. Wait, I’m relatively new here. Is “law-abiding” code for “white and generally clean cut?”

          • Don

            Yup-anyone except POC’s

    • m.j.

      Tell that to your family when you lose your job, any further rights, then the government comes and takes all your guns in the house (so your family can not defend themselves when needed)
      You empty your bank account defending yourself in court (and you will loose ) and you are locked up for about 7 years then can’t get a decent job when you get out. The state makes getting shot and killed a better choice, at least you’re family can get life insurance.

      • Ron Cash

        Good dose of reality!! It’s a personal choice, but they need to be aware of the negative side, especially in the Dictatorship of Comifornia!

      • Wow!

        That is kind of ridiculous considering that life insurance is never a guarantee and can be revoked either by state taxes or by technicalities. The smarter option is to protect yourself and handle the aftermath. You have a much higher chance of defending yourself without anyone knowing (after all, criminals don’t attack you in public places, they do it when you are alone!) than to let yourself die and hope everything turns out in the end.

  • Shagy

    so with yesterdays ruling… what now for CA?

  • Dale Broad

    Ca, is the worst state for guns and gun rights. The real kicker is the Police are against these gun laws.

  • Zack Corley

    You sir, are a respectable man. Very helpful info as well Thanks.

  • Red

    I’m gonna get [email protected]## for this , but what Americans seem to forget is this , yes the 2nd Amendment grants us the right to Bear Arms. , but it does not Grant us the right to CONCEALMENT. That is a privilege granted to us by the state we reside in, if they so choose to do so. Everyone forgets the Constitution gives the States the right to govern its own . I believe in open carry but for the idiots that want to open carry with their M4 rifles on ur back in the PUBLIC use some common sense . That’s the kind of action that gun haters love to watch if something goes wrong . If y’all want to carry so bad then apply for your CCW in a gun friendly county. And quit Bitching about what we are and aren’t Entitled to .

    • disgusted ffm

      You need to read the Second Amendment and then have someone explain to you what “shall not be infringed” means. You’re almost implying that carrying concealed is not a matter of legal choice but rather indicates some sinister/illegal intentions–which is really flawed reasoning and not supported by any data. Your additional attempt at legal logic is scary. I fear the day is fast coming when people will welcome the sight of others carrying weapons–like in Israel–because of the ongoing threat of violence from foreign and domestic enemies who mean us all harm.

      • Ben

        If you’re going to quote the Second Amendment, quote all of it. Start by describing the well regulated militia of which you are a part, the predicate for the right to bear arms.

  • Jules

    Any Realtors online? Meeting total strangers showing properties in vacant homes does not seem safe. Is this a good enough reason to apply for a conceal carry permit? Anyone try applying in Contra Costa County?

    • robincalif

      I’m going to apply and I live in the Contra Costa County. I already have a gun permit but these days commuting in the Bay Area just for work can be a war zone.

      • Is your gun permit accepted throughout California?

  • Chris

    Does anybody know the required caliber for a handgun??

    • Required for what? It largely depends on what you want to do. Kill a ground squirrel or put a round through an engine block.

  • Jenn S.

    I applied for my CCW today. As a woman and a mother, I will always protect my children and myself.

  • Ray Morgan

    Anyone know how hard it is to get a CCW in San Bernardino county? I am going to apply for one soon..

  • Vanessa

    If anyone can answer my question please, I’d like to know…

    I am a property manager in a location in Riverside County, California at a mobile home community. The property was recently sold and the residents feel that, because they’ve lived there for numerous years without being told anything, they’ve been following the park’s rules, when in fact, they have not.

    As soon as I ask anyone to move their vehicles from the fire lanes, lower their music a little because it’s disturbing other residents, not to allow their small children run around by themselves without adult supervision, they get aggressive and have threatened to “*uck” me up. I’ve begun to fear they might hurt me since several of them will encircle me and want to have a yell fest. One instance where I felt even more threatened was when Ifound a box of. 22 bullets on the ground, outside of my window and I don’t own a gun.

    Because of these and many more instances, I’ve begun to fear for my safety and started contemplating applying for a concealed weapons permit to carry a gun.

    Could this be considered a good reason for requesting a permit?

    Thank you in advance for any help and/or advice.

    • warrantone

      “Good cause” is in your head. If you feel you need it, the 2nd Amendment says you have the right. You don’t have to explain yourself to someone else to determine if your rights apply to you.

  • Paul Dragotto

    i went to the sheriffs website and copied the forms, filled them out and said it was for personal pertection. i stated that the 9 circut court and a supream court judge said it was unconstituional to deny a ccp for self protection. sent it in with a $10.00 fee and my check cleared 3 weeks ago and i keep calling this womwen about the status and no return calls. this is in los angles. when i left the last message for this women to call me, i told her that i felt my constuttional rights are being violated. your not returning my calls after 3 weeks that my fee cleared. the instructor has to be certified with the sheriffs department, or he cannot give the course. talk about the run around. the guy at the range who told me this said to go to my local police chief and ask them for the forms. i know that orange county and san diago are giving them out like candy. fucking Los angles. we have more crime than the latter cities. shit!!

  • kaitlynn

    alright so I just want to make sure that I am reading all this correctly. Basically im going to jump through hoops and pay money to have the license in CA. My question is if self defense or (the fact that I work in a very unfriendly part of town and ALWAYS leave work after dark) enough of a reason for them. There has been ALOT of robberies and car break-ins lately where I work. Also does anyone have experience getting the permit at a younger age? is it more difficult? I highly doubt it but does anyone know if I would be able to carry at work as well or would I need to leave it in my purse or car? thank you.

  • one of the people

    i agree with the class action lawsuit these guys are criminals truning a protected right to keep and carry arm in to a privilege the red nazi coats are coming i mean there here takeing over already

  • wild-doc

    San Bernardino sucked back in the 2000’s before Sheriff-Coroner Hoops, I forget that other sheriff’s name, but his name seems to be erased from EVERYWHERE!!! I applied, perfectly clean record, former police officer, made $10,000 to $40,000 CASH bank deposits a day and I was LITERALLY told by the background investigator that although I had plenty of reasons to have a permit, if I didn’t donate at least $20,000 to the sheriff’s re-election campaign, I would never get one. Guess what, I went through their ridiculous training for an ex-police officer and I never got one after wasting over $400. Some low-level lieutenant called me and she just said “it’s denied” – no reason given. I hope Sheriff McMahon has made the application system more fair and reasonable.

  • mstrange33

    I live in a small unincorporated city in L.A where would i apply for a permit?.

  • tom

    if you have a ccp permit does that mean you can leave you pistol in a center consloe of a pick up that four to other people drive in . what happens if you get stop and they see it say you do not know whos gun it is

  • BryanG

    I’m moving to orange county, the city of Westminster in the next two months for a new job. I’ve read a lot of good comments on this thread, and have a question: do I have to get a CCW from the county in which I live, worship, or work? Or can I go to a different county (where I do not live, worship, or work in?), that is more CCW friendly and get a CCW permit?

  • RickyR

    I have an appointment this month. Do I need to complete the training program before my interview or is it acceptable to complete as you go through the process?

  • RickyR

    I have an appointment this month. Do I need to complete the training program before my interview or is it acceptable to complete as you go through the process?

  • Pam Parker

    I have been a CWC holder since 1994 in Florida and am moving back to California. After reading California law on Concealed weapons, can someone explain why as a legal permit holder , I have to keep my .38 snubnose, UNLOADED, and LOCKED in my car trunk. Excuse me Mr Carjacker..wait till I get my UNLOADED Gun from my LOCKED trunk before you kill me and my kids!

  • if they hadn’t banned open carry there would be no need to notify.

  • deeegeee

    I note good cause must be given..does that include the fact that everyone else is probably carrying ??

  • Darryl

    As a recently retired California Peace officer, I have seen what real time response is and how differently people react to stress in a violent situation. The difference to reacting in a given stressful tragic situation by persons is, ‘no’ training ! The old adage is, ” Failing to train, is training to Fail “. Since retiring I have lately been viewing the right to ‘Bear Arms’, and this issue has so many inconsistencies across our country that it makes me shake my head at our governments mindset and how easy it is for our government to take away the ability to have a CCW, even those that have been trained to use guns in their respective professions. I, personally, can comply with all the guidelines in my city, county or state and just travel a short distance away and be in conflict with another county or states requirements and possibly lose my Constitutional right to carry. Again, l state that all these inconsistencies nationwide make it easy for government to take my ‘Rights ‘ away, or anyone’s ! Due to being in law enforcement, I have seen many varied observations and actions taken and perceived by different law enforcement agencies and by some fellow officers that are confused on this matter as well, although they are more versed on this subject than most. As for a private citizen it is a different matter as to how a Police Officer perceives you with a CCW, with ‘no’ prior real life experience in stressful situations and training, they are naturally going to be cautiously skeptical as well when dealing with their own safety at the time of contact with any person carrying a gun. I feel that given the ‘right to carry’ should also come with it a mandatory ‘responsibility’ to have annual training associated with it, for practical reasons !! Others may disagree, but in a time of crisis who do you want to react, someone who has just a ‘right’ to have a CCW, or someone that has a CCW that is ‘trained’ and knows ‘how’ to use that weapon! The ‘ Right to Bear Arms ‘ is our Constitutional Right, don’t give that up based on a politician/s who can’t even change a car tire, let alone knows how to spell Glock, Sig Sauer, Beretta or, God forbid, Smith and Wesson !! Government still perceives the public as un-informed masses that needs to have ‘them’ determine what we need for our best interest. I served my country in both the military and law enforcement and am proud to live here, but in these present times we are now facing with a new ‘real’ life dilemma with ‘Terrorism’, as seen recently when things get ugly (Paris), or anywhere, the military or police can only react after the tragedy. People stared and watched the terrorists stop and reload their weapons and continued shooting others and did nothing but run like confused sheep because they had no options, but even ‘one’ citizen with training with their gun could have changed or minimized the the final result until response arrived, it was a very sad moment to watch. ‘Wake up folks’ (government), this is a really different time we live in today, I just want to have/keep my ability to defend myself, my family, and country again if necessary. I apologize for the long post, I am not a ‘Prepper’ by any stretch, but I felt the need to vent and voice a concern that is shared by many of my friends and family. I hope we (our government) can soon find a nationwide unified solution to this mess on ‘one’ of our most needed rights these days !!!!!!!
    Sincerely,
    Darryl

  • MIKE

    IF I MOVE TO A COUNTY THAT DOES NOT ISSUE CHLS CAN I STILL RENEW FROM COUNTY OF ISSUANCE

  • defcon888

    Just curious as to CW’s in other states. I am in the early stages of getting a handgun and am doing my due diligence in educating myself. Is it possible to get a CW in other states even if you do not live in those states?. For example, I live in California but very close to Nevada and not very far from Arizona (that way I can carry in 49 states, until I get to Michigan). Again, no flaming ….I am a NOOB!

  • Jjr74

    Now that the FBI has deemed the SB tragedy terrorism? Everyone has a valid reason to CC.

  • jgs

    How about the 2nd ammendment!

  • Dalila Epperson

    I’m new and seriously considering a permit. I have a 38 special. Thanks for the tips on what to write in to “Provide Good Cause”- hoping that will go away after the case is heard. Any more tips?

  • plasmacutter

    This article needs to be updated for the new state law requiring CCW holders lock their weapons when entering public school grounds. In an actual shooter situation, I’d like to see one rational parent who would obey this law given the ultimatum between eventual felony arrest and an armed criminal threatening their kids, but oh well.

    If you still live in the state, make sure Newsom never gets into office.

  • linda gross

    im coming to calif and I have a legal carry permit from Georgia and you can bet it will be with me when I arrive there.

  • Chris

    I would like to think there might be a way to retrieve our Constitutional rights in this state but I see no hope given the entrenched nature and voter manipulation of the Left/ communists. All you can do is vote with your feet and go someplace normal and American. It’s a tragedy, as is the way the Left gains control of state’s major cities politically and then force everyone else there to to submit to their “ideas.”

    I’m leaving, CA is not the state I grew up in.

  • Charyn Michelle Whitaker

    Is anyone upset about the ads at the bottom? It’s disgusting and another sign that our country is shit. Change is necessary. Not only is it every citizens right to own a firearm, it’s constitutional backing States that we (citizens) can use said firearms to oppose a govt that is harmful, or deceitful. Ours is both. It’s time for a revolution. I am starting a YouTube channel to start this off right. Join me?

  • granddad1

    Any law passed to restrict the bearing of arms is an infringement of the 2d Amendment.

  • Long Gone

    If you are visiting CA, also be aware of the high-capacity magazine ban.

  • val d quinn

    can you CCW on travis afb,ca?

  • Captain Cabo

    Anyone tried to get a CCW in Orange County CA?

  • greg green

    I just heard San Francisco does not let you carry concealed even with a ccw permit! Who knows about this?

  • MikeD

    Can I carry a weapon that is not on my carry permit if I legally own it?

  • playsoftball

    Trump just struck down some of Assbamas laws regarding the 2nd ammendment rights. Time will tell on the Brown butt issue. How the hell he ever get back into this election process for Gov, since he had two terms years ago. I wasn’t aware they could be time seperation and run again. CA has too many corrupt politicians in office. That applies to some mayors as well.

  • Major T, U.S.M.C.

    What I don’t understand, and I have a degree from Princeton and was a Marine, if the Supreme Court ruled in 2005 that it is NOT the responsibility of the police to protect citizens, even ones that have filed restraining orders (Bet you never heard this before huh?), then why isn’t it the law of the land to carry guns in EVERY state and city so you CAN protect yourself? Can someone please explain that simple question and of course simple answer to me? Common sense is lacking in this question of responsibility. If it is not the police requirement to protect citizens, then I’d like to protect myself. Seems reasonable, correct?

  • Shani Phillips

    What if my reasoning is to protect my land/property, my life and the lives of my offspring. Which is why I want it honestly.

  • Shani Phillips

    One more thing, if I get a permit in Tulare county that’s good for all of california or all states? (Traveling mandates Curiosity)

  • Worried About America

    I can speak only to Sacramento and Placer Counties. My original CCW was issued in Sacramento County under sheriff John McGinnis. My reason for requesting the permit was simply “self-defense and all other lawful purposes.” It was approved rather quickly. My next renewal was under sheriff Scott Jones. Same reason, same result. Later on I moved to Roseville (within the city limits) and had to submit application for a replacement CCW in Placer County as permits do not follow from county to county (another issue that needs to be addressed – a CCW approved in ones home county should be valid statewide until renewal.) In my application in Placer county the officer that reviewed my application actually filled in the “good cause” question for me with a very simple response. (The CCW application only allows the applicant to complete only a small portion of the application while the balance is completed by the interviewing officer.) The entire process here in Placer County took just two weeks start to finish – with no waiting for an initial appointment. The longest period of time was waiting for a renewal CCW class to be held. My renewal, also Placer County, was even easier in that there was no in person interview. They simply wanted proof of completion of the renewal CCW class and live fire successful qualification. What really astounds me is that neighboring county, Yolo County, is nearly 100% rural/ag and the sheriff over there will not issue a CCW to save his life. Thankfully I don’t live in San Francisco County where you will find a grand total of ZERO CCW holders. But, SF is in a world of its own.

  • Robert

    Can a register process server carry while working ?

  • theresa tarrin

    I need protection, I live in CA. these young guys grabbed my bag, it was empty, i was just going to go shopping.Im 59 year old woman who has to walk every where. I feel so vulnerable. seems like so much money but worth it in the end. I have also been a victim of a home invasion. It doesn’t matter where you live anymore, the worlds gone crazy.

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