Brandishing and Improper Exhibition of a Firearm

Brandishing
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What is “brandishing” a firearm and what are the considerations, laws, definitions, elements, penalties, required proof, etc.?  When does brandishing or a careless or inadvertent exhibition of a firearm occur? What should we do to avoid it? Does it require showing that the person committed the act willfully, intentionally and with knowledge or just that the person accused acted “carelessly.” What is a willful, threatening, and/or careless act with a firearm? Almost all states and jurisdictions have laws about improper exhibition of a firearm or brandishing a weapon as some states refer to it. And they vary greatly among the states and jurisdictions in definitions, terminology, interpretations, and penalties… a very gray subjective area. Here are just some of the many complex and variable factors to understand and help guide you. I offer my ideas not as an attorney and not as legal opinion or advice, but generally to help you begin your understanding and encourage you to consult an attorney in your state about specific related laws and considerations for your jurisdiction. So don’t act on my information here, but seek out legal guidance for your specific circumstances before taking action or making decisions. My experiences as a lay person are with “Improper Exhibition” of a firearm in Florida.

So “brandishing” or “improper exhibition” or “defensive display” or “unlawful display” (or whatever your state and jurisdiction calls it) depends specifically on your state and jurisdiction. Very generally, however, for an operating definition “brandishing” means to display, show, wave, or exhibit the firearm in a manner which another person might find threatening. You can see how widely and differently this can be subjectively interpreted by different “reasonable” individuals and entities. The crime can actually be committed in some states by not even pointing a firearm at someone. In some states it’s a Misdemeanor crime and in others a Felony. So, focus, think rationally, know your state’s law, and be careful out there.

Florida’s Improper Exhibition of a Firearm Statute

For example, in my state of Florida, it is an offense under Florida law to display a dangerous weapon in an angry, careless, or threatening manner. Improper Exhibition of a Firearm and/or Improper Display of a Weapon are crimes governed by Florida Statute 790.10. The offense stems from the common law crime of brandishing. So Florida statutes do NOT call it “brandishing”, but “improper exhibition” of dangerous weapons or firearms. In the Florida Criminal Code “improper exhibition” of a firearm is defined as an individual having or carrying the following weapons in an unsafe, rude, careless, angry, or threatening manner, not in necessary self defense:

  • Dirk (knife or dagger)
  • Sword
  • Sword cane
  • Firearm
  • Electric weapon
  • Electric device
  • Other weapon

An individual is considered to carry the firearm in an “unsafe” manner if they carry it in the following ways (Certainly each of these are open to various definitions and frustrating subjective interpretations):

  • Rude
  • Careless
  • Angry
  • Threatening manner 

3 Main Elements of Improper Exhibition of a Firearm or Weapon in Florida:

The crime of Improper Exhibition of a Firearm or Weapon contains the following three elements.

  1. A person had or carried a dangerous weapon or firearm (as listed above);
  2. The person exhibited the dangerous weapon or firearm in a rude, careless, angry, or threatening manner (as listed above); AND
  3. The person did so in the presence of one or more persons.

Another subjective factor is also usually involved, based on my limited and lay background. In addition to acting in an unsafe manner, the prosecution usually needs to prove that the people who witnessed the improper exhibition behavior thought it was unsafe at the time (in their terms.) Very subjective!

To me the intent of this statute is to encourage safe handling of guns, avoiding carelessness with guns, and protecting innocent bystanders from the possibility of serious bodily injury or death. We know there are well- documented cases of guns being accidentally discharged when used in a safe manner, so the likelihood of accidental discharge increases if the guns are operated in an unsafe manner. In Florida, the individual must carry the weapon in an unsafe manner in the presence of one or more persons in order to be convicted of improper exhibition of a firearm.

What About Carelessness and Willfulness?

Most criminal offenses in Florida require a showing that the person committed the act willfully, intentionally and with knowledge.  But, the improper exhibition statute emphasizes that the person acted “carelessly.” The determination of whether the person was careless or not or committed the act willfully in exhibiting the firearm could be ultimately subjectively decided by the jury at trial.

It is my understanding and hope that charges should be determined on an “objective” rather than a “subjective” basis. The “objective” basis involves the circumstance of your actions with the firearm being done in an irrationally attacking manner, or being done in a way that generates an unreasonable risk of injury to other individuals or property. So unless your circumstances occurred like this, it seems to this non-lawyer that there would not be a basis for this criminal charge. While the prosecution in most jurisdictions has the burden of proving all three of these elements beyond a reasonable doubt, I would expect that a good defense attorney can probably cast doubt on any one element and the prosecution’s case might fail. But, again, I am not an attorney.

But even in questionable cases the individual could be arrested, taken to jail, booked, required to post bond, forced to hire a criminal defense attorney (minimal retainer about $25,000), and then appear in court for pre-trial hearings in order to fight the charge. Much time and many costs involved. Overly-aggressive prosecutions do occur and some prosecutors believe any firearm charge must be prosecuted aggressively. Florida law allows a person who possesses a valid license to carry a “concealed” weapon, but some do not realize that it is a first degree misdemeanor to “carelessly” exhibit the firearm to another, even with the concealed license. This misdemeanor crime is one of the most commonly prosecuted firearm charges in Florida, although it is unclear how many times these prosecutions involve careless acts or intentional acts. So, focus, think rationally, keep it concealed, and be careful out there.

Florida Statute Change: Inadvertent Display of Concealed Weapon by License Holders

Recently, the Florida Legislature amended Florida Statute § 790.053 related to the open carrying of a weapon in favor of FL Concealed Carry Weapons License holders. The law change prevents prosecutions of those with a valid concealed weapons license who briefly, openly, and inadvertently display a concealed weapon, as long as it is done in a non-angry or non-threatening manner. Of course, this is subjective and open to interpretation and the court cases will follow. Here is the law change which is bolded:

Section 1. Subsection (1) of section 790.053, Florida Statuetes, is amended to read:
790.053 Open carrying of weapons.— (1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It is not a violation of this section for a person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1), and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.

How could an inadvertent display occur? Be careful with these possible common situations:

  • A person has a firearm in a holster on his belt. The wind blows his jacket away from his body and a bystander sees the firearm on his belt and becomes concerned.
  • A woman has a firearm in her purse. While standing in line in the grocery store the woman reaches into the purse to get a wallet and the person in line behind her sees the firearm in her handbag and becomes concerned.
  • A person with a concealed weapon repositions the weapon in a manner that makes it visible to another person.
  • A person leaves a firearm in a handbag that is within reach of a child or teenager and another person becomes concerned and calls the police.

If an issue of self-defense is raised at trial, it is  my layman’s understanding that the judge will usually instruct the jury that if it finds that the defendant committed the offense of improper exhibition of a weapon in necessary self-defense, the juror must find him or her not guilty of the crime charged. If the individual was displaying the weapon in a threatening manner in order to protect his or her personal safety, then I would expect that the display was not careless, rude or angry. Situational!

Penalties for Improper Exhibition of a Firearm

In Florida, it is a first degree misdemeanor offense punishable by a maximum prison term of 1 year and a maximum fine of up to $1000, if you are found guilty of an Improper Exhibition of a firearm.

Although a misdemeanor, it is still a serious offense to have on your criminal record. Some mistakenly plead guilty or no contest to misdemeanors because they believe that a misdemeanor does not have damaging consequences. But it is my lay understanding that a misdemeanor can stay on your criminal record indefinitely. So if you get into trouble with the law again, this misdemeanor can increase the penalties for subsequent criminal charges. Be careful and seek legal counsel.

I read some cases where Improper Exhibition of a Firearm was charged as a reduced offense of aggravated assault, with the aggravated assault being “plea bargained” down to this “lesser” criminal offense. So that is possible from this layman’s understanding. Improper Exhibition of a Firearm can also be charged because a person displayed a firearm so hastily that other persons in the area just believed or emotionally thought they might get accidentally targeted, or because a person displayed a weapon in a manner that was transparently offensive to most reasonable people. Again, subjective, open to interpretation, and what is “reasonable” for one is not for another. Success with your judge and/or jury.

What To Do To Avoid Improper Exhibition of a Firearm or Brandishing

  1. Get Your Valid Concealed Carry License;
  2. Keep your firearm concealed and (mostly) do not open carry it (if open carried do not touch the gun or       gesture toward it, unless imminent danger);
  3. Do not display the firearm or threaten deadly force unless you are ONLY threatened with imminent death or        great bodily harm (do not casually sweep or lift your shirt or cover garment exposing firearm);
  4. Avoid possible dangerous arguments and confrontations when possible (leaving, disengaging, and retreating     are not signs of weakness or lack of power- might defuse the situation & create protection space);
  5. Conduct yourself with reserved, rational, reasonable, and disciplined behavior;
  6. Do not in any way reveal your gun, point to it, indicate that you have a gun, or say anything that could   possibly be interpreted as a threat (You are allowed to breathe); and
  7. Take a fundamentals of shooting and safety course that contains information and scenarios about the     firearms laws, use of deadly force, and concealed carry guidelines in your state.

Brandishing in A Few Other States

I do not have first-hand experience or information about Brandishing or Improper Exhibition in other states, but here is what I discovered at random to help you begin your understanding. This information is just a partial sampling of portions of some of the state laws and may not be complete nor current. I present this to show the great variability among states; so do your own verification and seek legal counsel in your state for specific guidance.

California Penal Code 417 (a)(2): Defines “brandishing” a firearm as follows:

(2) Every person who, except in self-defense, in the presence of any other person, draws or exhibits any firearm, whether loaded or unloaded, in a rude, angry, or threatening manner, or who in any
manner, unlawfully uses a firearm in any fight or quarrel ….

Virginia Code 18.2-282:

It shall be unlawful for any person to point, hold or brandish any firearm or any air or gas operated weapon or any object similar in appearance, whether capable of being fired or not, in such a manner as to reasonably induce fear in the mind of another or hold a firearm or any air or gas operated weapon in a public place in such a manner as to reasonably induce fear in the mind of another being shot or injured. However, this section shall not apply to any person engaged in excusable of justifiable self-defense.

Utah Section 76-10-506:

Threatening with or using dangerous weapon in fight or quarrel. (1) As used in this section, “threatening manner” does not include:

(a) the possession of a dangerous weapon, whether visible or concealed, without additional behavior which is threatening; or

(b) informing another of the actor’s possession of a deadly weapon in order to prevent what the actor reasonably perceives as a possible use of unlawful force by the other and the actor is not engaged in any activity described in Subsection 76-2-402(2)(a).

(2) Except as otherwise provided in Section 76-2-402 and for those persons described in Section 76-10-503, a person who, in the presence of two or more persons, draws or exhibits a dangerous weapon in an angry and threatening manner or unlawfully uses a dangerous weapon in a flight or quarrel is guilty of a class A misdemeanor.

(3) This section does not apply to a person who, reasonably believing the action to be necessary in compliance with Section 76-2-402, with purpose to prevent another’s use of unlawful force:

(a) threatens the use of a dangerous weapon; or

(b) draws or exhibits a dangerous weapon.

South Carolina Section 16-23-410:

Unlawful to present or point loaded or unloaded firearm at another person; felony; must be fined or imprisoned not more than 5 years.

Nevada Section 202.290:

Aiming firearm, whether loaded or not, or discharging where person might be endangered is a penalty; even if injury does not result; gross misdemeanor

Montana MCA 45-3-111:

(Montana approved legislation says simply that brandishing a firearm in self defense is not a crime.)

(1) Any person who is not otherwise prevented from doing so by federal or state law may openly carry a weapon and may communicate to another person the fact that the person has a weapon.

(2) If a person reasonably believes that the person or another person is threatened with bodily harm, the person may warn or threaten the use of force, including deadly force, against the aggressor, including drawing or presenting a weapon.

(3) This section does not limit the authority of the board of regents or other postsecondary institutions to regulate the carrying of weapons, as defined in 45-8-361(5)(b), on their campuses.

Arizona ARS 13-421: Justification; Defensive Display of a Firearm.

A. The defensive display of a firearm by a person against another is justified when and to the extent that a reasonable person would believe that physical force is immediately necessary to protect himself against the use or attempted use of unlawful physical force or deadly physical force.

B. This section does not apply to a person who:

1. Intentionally provokes another person to use or attempt to use unlawful physical force.

2. Uses a firearm during the commission of a serious offense as defined in section 13-706 or violent crime as defined in section 13-901.03.

C. This section does not require the Defensive Display of a firearm before the use of physical force or the threat of physical force by a person who is otherwise justified in the use or threatened use of physical force.

D. For the purposes of this section, “defensive display of a firearm” includes:

1. Verbally informing another person that the person possesses or has available a firearm.

2. Exposing or displaying a firearm in a manner that a reasonable person would understand was meant to protect a person against another’s use or attempted use of unlawful physical force or deadly physical force.

3. Placing the person’s hand on a firearm while the firearm is contained in a pocket, purse or other means of containment or transport.

Michigan Penal Code 750.234e:

Brandishing firearm in public; applicability; violation as misdemeanor; penalty. (1) Except as provided in subsection (2), a person shall not knowingly brandish a firearm in public.

(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to any of the following:

(a) A peace officer lawfully performing his or her duties as a peace officer.

(b) A person lawfully engaged in hunting.

(c) A person lawfully engaged in target practice.

(d) A person lawfully engaged in the sale, purchase, repair, or transfer of that firearm.

(3) A person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 90 days, or a fine of not more than $100.00, or both.

Continued Success!

* This personal opinion article is meant for general information & educational purposes only and the author strongly recommends that you seek counsel from an attorney for legal advice and your own personal certified weapons trainer for proper guidance about shooting & using YOUR firearms, self-defense and concealed carry in your state. It should not be relied upon as accurate for all shooters & the author assumes no responsibility for anyone’s use of the information and shall not be liable for any improper or incorrect use of the information or any damages or injuries incurred whatsoever.
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james lagnese

Some days I am glad to live in AZ.

Jim

In Texas the law has just been changed to make it no linger a crime to accidentally expose a concealed weapon. Such things as wind blowing your coat are presumably covered by this exemption.

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Rufus Dufus

Texas Jim,
I concur with you regarding Disqus access. Every attempt to reply to any site via Disqus results in rejection. I feel like Rodney Dangerfield: no respect.

blogengeezer

Albuquerque New Mexico. News reported a US Air Force officer off base, shopping with his family in nearby Costco, reached upward, briefly exposing his certified concealed carry weapon. Costco security was alerted about his weapon. He argued (2nd big mistake) at the security authority’s request to leave the store. Local law officers were then called in. Of course he could not keep his mouth from running (major error number three) and situation further escalated (to say the least), causing undue stress to all concerned.

Definitely the wrong way for the Air Force officer to handle the situation. I expected more logic from a ranking defender of the nation. Where did he attain his CCW? Who did he Not listen too, during the thorough explanations of the certification course?

Torontogunguy

Thinking of another situation, very similar, in AZ/NV. The guy reached for his permit and the whole team opened up on him. Good shooting. No press.

Steve A Little

I carry my handgun license in a wristband, so if I do have my hands in the air all I have to do is touch my other wrist.

AH White

My Firearms license is in my left back pocket and my pistol is on my right. Make no quick movements, Explain what you are reaching for or just dont move your hands. Any quick movements can bring problems.

Grits.N.Jowls

No the question is “Am I being detained?” If not, keep walking.

Jim_Macklin

The rest of the story, if I recall correctly, he was shot and killed. NEVER argue, if asked to leave and you don’t go, you are trespassing. Expect police to called about a man with a gun, no mention of whether you are licensed. Police will be on edge and primed to shoot.

Aulton H White II

When asked to leave he should have left. They have the right to tell anyone not to bring a weapon into a business. I check the doors of any business before entering. When I went to the Atlanta airport I walked to the police stand with my carry permit in hand. No problem. I was not going into a secure area so it was not an issue. The officer said thank you. Easy to be smart.

Gunluvr

Why? Our law states that the cops shouldn’t approach or ask you about an openly carried weapon unless there’s reasonable suspicion or probable cause that a crime’s about to be committed.

AH White

On private property the owner or company can decide what they want in and on their property. A business is private property

Gunluvr

Yes but the Atlanta airport is public property.

AH White

But Costco’s is not. My point was being smart insted of stupid and unsing your head.

Gunluvr

I carry my guns openly as a matter of routine and will respect private property rules but I don’t lay down for any harassment of my Constitutionally protected civil rights. If you want to carry concealed that is your legal right as it is mine to carry openly.

AH White

I also carry openly. I dont mind in the least if a LEO asks to see my carry permit. I gladly show them. It does not violate my rights to show my Georgia Firearms licence to any LEO when requested. It is being smart not creating problems or any reason for them to escalate any issue.

Gunluvr

If you want to show them your license then fine, do it. Nobody in our state(GA) is legally obligated to show them anything and they know it. We live in the south and fortunately don’t have to justify why we carry our guns. All the anti-gunners and anybody else needs to know is that it’s a God given, absolute civil right that will not be infringed or limited in any way.

A White

I have to pretence this by saying I am not giving any legal advice. I am just
posting the Georgia Code. I am not an lawyer or claim to be giving advice to any law.

In my personal opinion, you are mistaken, check Ga Code 16-11-126 (h) (1) No person shall carry a weapon without a valid weapons carry license unless he or she meets one of the exceptions to having such license as provided in subsections (a) through (g) of this Code section. (2) A person commits the offense of carrying a weapon without a license when he or she violates the provisions of paragraph (1) of this subsection.

A LEO having probable cause of a person carrying a firearm
to ask for their License

Under 16-11-36. Loitering or prowling

(a) A person commits the offense of loitering or prowling when he is in
a place at a time or in a manner not usual for law-abiding individuals under
circumstances that warrant a justifiable and reasonable alarm or immediate concern for the safety of persons or property in the vicinity..

(b) Among the circumstances which may be considered in determining whether alarm is warranted is the fact that the person takes flight upon the appearance of a law enforcement officer, refuses to identify himself, or manifestly endeavors to
conceal himself or any object. . Unless flight by the person or other circumstances make it impracticable, a law enforcement officer shall, prior to any arrest for an offense under this Code section, afford the person an opportunity to dispel any alarm or immediate concern which would otherwise be warranted by requesting the person to identify himself and explain his presence and conduct. No person shall be convicted of an offense under this Code section if the law enforcement officer failed to comply with the foregoing procedure or if it appears at trial that the explanation given by the person was true and would have dispelled the alarm or immediate concern.

Grits.N.Jowls

Okay but since 1 July 2014 a new law went into effect. It states that a person may carry his guns openly or concealed with a GA firearms license. A police officer cannot detain a person to determine whether or not he has a license, so by default everyone gets an open carry pass if they choose to use it, which is as it should be.

Grits.N.Jowls

That is the law as it’s objectively written. There’s a contradiction that hasn’t been reconciled. Refusing to ID is not a crime unless a person is suspected of or caught in the act of committing a crime. Now if the LEO detains or arrests a person without RS or PC a lawsuit is authorized in state court.

Aulton White

You stated “it’s a God given, absolute civil right” There are no “God given rights” regarding civil laws. Civil Rights are: the rights that every person should have regardless of his or her sex, race, or religion. Also Civil Rights can be defined by personal liberties that belong to an individual, owing to his or her status as a citizen or resident of a particular country or community.

What some people do not understand there should be some measure of reasonable and common sense which is the ability to think and behave in a reasonable way and to make good decisions. In reality, it is better not to escalate issues and cause any LEO trepidation and elevate anxiety levels just to prove a point.

If a person is carrying a CCP would it not be easier to show and calmly explain
that even thought not required it is better to be cautious and error on the side of safety. Heck carry a copy of the code showing that it is not required and give it to them so they can learn as well.

Grits.N.Jowls

It would also be easier to explain your voting choices at the polls. You’re not required to but according to your compulsory model of rolling over to show your papers that’s how you roll. So be it but don’t expect everyone else to lay down like you choose to do. As I’ve said this right is unconditional for me, it’s not a conditional privilege premised on showing papers to exercise it.

pbasch

My understanding is that if you go onto private property your rights are conditional – for instance, start shouting angrily (i.e., exercise free-speech rights) about how everyone there is going straight to hell (i.e., expressing religious beliefs), you might be escorted out, and rightly so. It is often forgotten that Constitutional rights are limits on Congress, not permission to do what you want, when you want.

Grits.N.Jowls

Yes, that’s true but if a citizen is just going about his business in a place like Walmart there is a big catch-22 for both Walmart and the cops in my state(Georgia). I can and have shopped in Walmart with my AK-47 strapped to my back; As you can imagine my action caused a stir and the cops were waiting on me outside but they couldn’t do a thing because our law states specifically that people carrying guns openly or concealed can’t be stopped, questioned or ID’d. Walmart could have trespassed me off of the property but to do so would have a opened a big can of political worms with gun owners and our representative organizations. So that was that. Gun rights for me are unconditional, un-limited and not up for discussion.

canus lupis

this along with other articles about the problems w/concealed carry, leaves one to believe you are in a lose-lose situation if you do carry and really a loser if you have to use the weapon. you might be alive, but our fabulous legal system is gonna bury you with legal crap.

torontogunguy

When I took concealed carry training for several state permits I was simply told (as I am a traveler) “CONCEALED MEANS CONCEALED!” And further that it matters NOT what the state laws are in your particular location…. CONCEALED MEANS CONCEALED! Asides from the threat of being charged with an offence, you risk your very life by revealing, flashing, printing, whatever. YOU RISK YOUR LIFE. A hopped up store security guard or a wired clerk makes a call to “911” and announces there is someone in the store with a gun. How do you know this person has a gun? “I saw it”. Your goose is semi-cooked. Now the clerk meets responding law enforcement or armed security at the exit while the store is cleared out or while you check out through the cashier. You make your way to the exit whereupon the clerk (minimum wage, elderly, low IQ, whatever) hollers “there he is and he has a gun”! You are hollering I have a permit but cannot be heard above the ‘din’ of noise. You reach for your wallet. One cop opens up on you and all of a sudden ALL are shooting at you. You are dead and unable to show your permit and most likely your handgun is now exposed as you squirmed and fell to the ground. Case closed. You had a gun and the clerk saw it and was afraid for his/her life (imbecile). Good shooting. End of story. You make the bottom of page 6 once and it’s all over.
So, I say, screw the law…. “CONCEALED IS CONCEALED”!….. PERIOD.
This is especially true if you screw up and have not kept up to date or happen to find yourself driving through a state where your permit is not recognized. CONCEALED IS CONCEALED.

tenn1600

As a female with gun permit, your only asking for trouble when you advertise you have a handgun. If you have the permit and the handgun its for your and your families protection, not to brag about.
It all boils down to having common sense.

Also Okie

Yes, as criminals always pick someone with a gun on their hip to try to rob.

Steve A Little

This is why I am glad Oklahoma took the word concealed out of our handgun license law. We are now all treated like adults in the 21st century.

FreakshowSMVM

you throw out more “maybe’s” and “its gonna get you killed, your a bigger threat than the real criminals” than michael bloomberg himself!

where lawful, open carry is rarely an issue and no security guards or cops or anything have shot an open carrier for open carrying anywhere in the country, probably not in the last 80 years, i cant find a single case since the 1930’s. only one case of an open carrier being targeted by a criminal for open carrying. but there are dozens of cases of crimes being averted by open carriers(see georgia waffle house robbery prevented by group of open carriers) just a month ago i was walking home just after dark and a local alcoholic with random mental issues decided to suddenly turn around once i walked past him and follow me, when i turned to look at him(exposing my strong side in the process) he said shit and turned around and left me alone, cops picked him up two days later for mugging somebody on the same street with a screwdriver ice pick thingy.(this is in Michigan)

if you truly have that view about open carry, and you carry concealed…do society a favor and get rid of all your guns, certainly do not carry in public. fear mongering like that leads me to believe you yourself are afraid of seeing a displayed, holstered gun on anything but a uniform and that you may draw and shoot at one of us even.

WateryWilly

Well, first of all, if when confronted by police, your first reaction is to reach for something on your body, you are an idiot. You freeze in place, extend your arms slowly as far away from your body as possible – let them see you are NOT a threat. THEN you tell them you have a permit. The FIRST thing you do is let them know you are complying with their commands.

LancasterPA

Your an idiot.

Pedro Gonzalez

You literally have no idea what you are talking about, and you are a threat to yourself. You are ignorant and you have no clue how to interact with the police if something like this (highly unlikely) were to happen. Cops come in? What about, instead of reaching to the wallet like an idiot, you raise your hands and wait for the cops to come to you and talk to you?

Dumbass.

FALYAL

Love Oklahoma and our recent Open Carry laws……I no longer have to worry that picking up my grandchild will inadvertently display my weapon, or feel the need to act like a fugitive in order to discretely secure my weapon in the trunk of my car when going into a “no weapons” zone like the courthouse or post office

Steve A Little

Love it, It is securing to know that Law abiding citizens can be armed without fear of being ostracized.

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Steve A Little

I live in the great state of Oklahoma. Our governor last year November 2012 passed a law of open carry of handguns. Since I am a licensed handgun carrier I no longer have to conceal my weapon. I am most generally caring my weapon on my hip or in my shoulder harness out and exposed. But in the winter of you carry it under a jacket. It is much easier not to have to worry about breaking the law or accidentally showing my weapon. Thank God for America.

melitagnm105

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cjleete

Good info. Since common sense is an oxymoron, we have to codify as law.

blogengeezer

Fun to use the phrase “Back in the day’. As young kids, we roamed the county roads looking for targets, vermin, pests, .22s and .410s ‘at the ready’. Sheriff usually stopped the cruiser near us and asked what we were huntin’? “Nothing in particular” was our reply, “Just shootin”.

The seasoned officers (WWII vets) always warned “Do NOT shoot the insulators off those power lines”. “Yes Sir” was our fast reply. The officers always drove away slowly, to seek other more important ‘crimes’ against the public.

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bobfairlane

Hhahah, yes, for some reason kids want to shoot the insulators.

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Paul

Here in Virginia open carry is legal, although these days not a lot of folks do it. Yesterday I was driving down a main country road and noticed a man walking with a “rifle that looked like an AR” hanging from his shoulder, clearly pointed downward, clearly harmless, He probably had been plinking or shooting crows in one of the many fields nearby. My wife grew up out here, and back in the day her relatives carried all sorts of guns both openly and concealed, and it was no big deal. Of course this was the same day that the boy was shot by the police in California for “threatening” them with a toy AK. Indeed, where you are may determine whether you live or die.

Aulton H White II

Georgia is also an open carry state with a carry permit and without. No permit is needed in a vehicle since it is considered an extension of the home. There are of course limitations on where prohibited such as government buildings and bars (unless the owner permits).

16-11-102. Pointing or aiming gun or pistol at another

A person is guilty of a misdemeanor when he intentionally and without legal justification points or aims a gun or pistol at another, whether the gun or pistol is loaded or unloaded.

16-11-126. Having or carrying handguns, long guns, or other weapons; license requirement; exceptions for homes, motor vehicles, and other locations and conditions; penalties for violations

(a) Any person who is not prohibited by law from possessing a handgun or long gun may have or carry on his or her person a weapon or long gun on his or her property or inside his or her home, motor vehicle, or place of business without a valid weapons carry license.

(b) Any person who is not prohibited by law from possessing a handgun or long gun may have or carry on his or her person a long gun without a valid weapons carry license, provided that if the long gun is loaded, it shall only be carried in an open and fully exposed manner.

(c) Any person who is not prohibited by law from possessing a handgun or long gun may have or carry any handgun provided that it is enclosed in a case and unloaded.

(d) Any person who is not prohibited by law from possessing a handgun or long gun who is eligible for a weapons carry license may transport a handgun or long gun in any private passenger motor vehicle; provided, however, that private property owners or persons in legal control of property through a lease,
rental agreement, licensing agreement, contract, or any other agreement to control access to such property shall have the right to forbid possession of a weapon or long gun on their property, except as provided in Code Section 16-11-135.

(e) Any person licensed to carry a handgun or weapon in any other state whose laws recognize and give effect to a license issued pursuant to this part shall be authorized to carry a weapon in this state, but only while the licensee is not a resident of this state; provided, however, that such licensee shall carry the weapon in compliance with the laws of this state.

(f) Any person with a valid hunting or fishing license on his or her person, or any person not required by law to have a hunting or fishing license, who is engaged in legal hunting, fishing, or sport shooting when the person has the permission of the owner of the land on which the activities are being conducted may have or carry on his or her person a handgun or long gun without a valid weapons carry license while hunting, fishing, or engaging in sport shooting.

(g) Notwithstanding Code Sections 12-3-10, 27-3-1.1, 27-3-6, and 16-12-122 through 16-12-127, any person with a valid weapons carry license may carry a weapon in all parks, historic sites, or recreational areas, as such term is defined in Code Section 12-3-10, including all publicly owned buildings
located in such parks, historic sites, and recreational areas, in wildlife management areas, and on public transportation; provided, however, that a person shall not carry a handgun into a place where it is prohibited by federal law.

carynflo

Weapon electronic is low coast product. if you want to create any weapon using of electronic their will be more then other. Now a days in every part of weapon using electronic.

David Windsor

Bottom Line….Its not your EGO or your preverbal club and there is no room for primal politics, (ie. beating your chest in a display to run someone off your turf), it is a weapon and only to be taking out in defense of YOU, or someone in the scope of YOUR protection.
Dave~
S.O.S.

Phil Evans

For the last 4 years or so I’ve openly carried my pistol at convenience stores, grocery stores, restaurants, gas stations, parks, and playgrounds – almost daily. I’ve never had a single person call 911 on me to my knowledge. I’ve carried around police officers in various public places.

Only once was I detained, and that was at Stone Mountain Park. I did not give my name or show ID of any kind, and I was not disarmed. I knew my rights, and the encounter lasted only eight minutes. It was a good teaching moment for the officers. That was before HB 60. Now, they would not even consider it.

I guess it’s just nice being in Georgia. 🙂

If you’d like to OC but are too skeered to do so in your state, then move on down here. 😉