The Truth About the CA Killing Spree

The Truth About the CA Killing Spree

The Truth About the CA Killing Spree

Last Friday, 22-year-old Elliot Rodger went on a killing spree in California that took the lives of six people. It’s another sad tragedy that happens far too often in this country and a reminder for us to always be vigilant and prepared for the unexpected.

The thing is, if you haven’t done much reading about this story you would assume that it’s another mentally ill kid with a gun that went on a shooting spree.

After all, here’s what CNN reported one of the victim’s father’s saying, “Why did Chris die? Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the (National Rifle Association). They talk about gun rights — what about Chris’ right to live?”

And the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence followed up on the father’s comments stating, “It is time for the American public to know the truth about why people are dying every day and, thanks to Americans like Mr. Martinez, that truth is starting to be heard.”

Well, here’s the real truth:

First, I certainly don’t blame the victim’s father for what he said. I can’t imagine anything worse in life than losing a child and you would obviously be angry and blame whatever and whomever you could for your loss.

But what very few media reports included is that the killer not only used a gun, but his shooting spree actually started out as a knife spree. The first three victims were stabbed to death in the killer’s apartment. From what I’ve seen, one news outlet that got it right is a newspaper out of Australia that reported the killings as a “violent knife and gun rampage.”

Now, it’s no real surprise that the liberal media in this country would only want to focus on the gun aspect and ignore the knife killings because those don’t push forward their agenda.

But you and I are smart enough to know that a gun or a knife is just a tool that can be used for good or evil. However, if someone is coming after you with a gun or a knife you want to be armed to stop the threat and use your gun for the lifesaving and defensive purposes for which it was created.

The last thing you want to be is an unprepared victim who thinks “it will never happen to me” and who didn’t have some type of weapon to defend themselves. So, while the media wants to use this as another excuse to ban guns, you and I should look at it as another reason to be armed because you’ll certainly want your Glock 19 (or whatever gun you prefer) with you when a madman is coming at you with a gun or a knife.

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  • 2ThinkN_Do2

    Sounds like we need to have the current restrictions on knives lifted; the right to bear arms isn’t limited to firearms is it?

    • banjojack

      Although this has since been corrected, at one time, in the state I live in, I could carry my .45, but not a knife with a blade longer than 6 inches. This oversight was quickly corrected, but comical when first pointed out.

  • ChristCrusader

    Laws, police, parents, medications, therapists, waiting periods, background checks, magazine limits, nor approved gun lists could stop his murderous, deranged rampage with blade, vehicle, and guns:.

    But any one of the dozens of civilians in his vicinity during his attacks, had they been armed, could have stopped him.

    Victims and witnesses are the actual first responders to a crime.

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  • dkt

    Correct … you need to read multiple media outlets in order to have any hope of a somewhat accurate accounting of any event. Each media source puts its own spin on the occurrence to appeal to their audience. Personally, I find that it takes up to nine difference sources of “news” to find a balanced accounting that I assemble in my own head.

    But back to the point of the article is that you need to be prepared because it can happen to you and can do so in many forms.

  • concerned

    Actually, as I understand it, the police interviewed the shooter/knife user/BMW driver several times but did not really inspect his apartment where they would have found the weapons. He actually commented on these interviews and how they could have stopped the whole process if they had done that. His own father knew there were some problems with his son and he is the one that suggested that he be interviewed. Again the real solution was at hand but missed because of his demeanor when he was interviewed. There are millions of weapons all over the United States owned by responsible citizens which did not hurt anyone and were not used in a crime. This situation again stokes up the media to go after the rights of law abiding citizens and does not focus on keeping weapons out of those with serious emotional problems or those who have criminal intent. These millions of weapons prevent death and injury many times each year by those who act to protect their own lives and their loved ones. When seconds count the police are only minutes away. It clearly that we should be registering liberals and not weapons used by citizens to protect their own lives.

  • Cobrawing

    Well I’d echo all that is being said in regards to defending our continuing right to bear arms. I would also like to say that the largest part of this problem is the almost total lack of any kind of meaningful mental health delivery system in this country. In the ’50’s & ’60’s we had hundreds of thousands of beds in our health care system for the mentally ill. Over the decades that funding all but vanished and the prison system became the dumping grounds for these people. So not only did they eventually get released STILL with mental issues but now they were ALSO criminally sophisticated.

    I don’t blame the police at all in this particular case because first they are NOT trained to determine who is mentally ill. As it’s being stated in this article here, when they did encounter him he appeared very much to be alright. Secondly, it’s next to impossible to hold anyone longer than a couple of days even if they are taken into custody for being “off”, because it’s NOT a crime to be mentally ill. We seriously need to revisit mental health in this nation, just as we are currently revisiting the horrible lack of attention afforded to our veterans. Obama has next to nothing in his Affordable Health Care Act for the vast mental health problem and as such a lot of the blame has to point to him as well. The media’s constant scapegoating of our firearms industry is misplaced. We need to stand strong as we are doing.

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  • Wyoh Knott

    It is also the truth that the killer complied with all California gun laws, which are some of the most restrictive in the USA, in obtaining his weapons. These laws have been touted as the model by many in the gun-control crowd but were obviously ineffective in preventing the recent violence committed by one evil maniac.

    • Fred Marsico

      And that is ample evidence that gun laws produce more gun violence than they prevent.
      “If guns are outlawed then only outlaws will have guns!”

  • r4fthrs

    Personally, if I were the father of the victim, I would have blamed California’s restrictive CCW laws. Because even if my son/daughter had been to young (18 for CCW in Indiana) there would be a good chance someone in the area would have been armed (1 in 4 have CCW in Indiana). When you cut through all the political BS the fact remains; the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun

    • Matthew Jimmy

      You must remember that daddy here is a lawhore, so he’s interested in the PR and cash value of his rant, as all lawyers are. He’s chasing the ambulance he’s son was in.

  • mkuisi8mo

    OK Folks…The month of May is Mental Health Awareness Month.

    So, let’s boost your MH “awareness” a bit…

    Unless you’ve been sleeping under a rock, you know that last Friday we sadly had a young man who went on a homicidal/suicidal rampage in Santa Barbara, California who needed help and the mental health medical community let him down. His own family was quoted as being very concerned that he would act out in a dangerous way. He did. Had this young man received the proper care and help that his family was so desperately trying to get, all these folks would be alive today. I do not blame firearms for this. I do not blame knives for this. I do not blame automobiles for this…All devices this man used to act out his delusional fantasies. I put 100 % of the blame on the mental health professionals who FAILED to do their job. I pray for all those involved in this tragic event.

    FYI, I’m a retired Forensic Psychologist/Family Therapist (now living in New Mexico) with over 37 years experience (still licensed to practice in NY & MA) and recognized “expert witness” from lower courts to the Supreme Court in NY State (as well as a certified trainer for the NYS Dept of Corrections in the areas of suicide prevention and MH emergencies & risk management ).

    In my personal and professional opinion, the MH “professionals” were dealing with Elliot Rodgers are 100% responsible….not the police or anyone/anything else. They indeed failed to do their jobs and should be held accountable for their malpractice.

    After listening to only about 10 minutes of Elliot’s blog videos (before all the facts were coming in from various media sources, before I obtained a copy of his “manifesto” to study further, and never conducting a face-to-face interview with him), I said to the friend who initially told me of the incident that my preliminary working diagnosis was…

    “Axis I: Bi-Polar Mood Disorder, Manic phase, with psychotic features
    Axis II: Narcissistic Personality Disorder, with antisocial and borderline features.

    Further stating, “A potentially very dangerous combination, especially when the person is a high-functioning “Loner” and able to “hide” undetected behind the intellectual & wealthy family facade. If he wasn’t in treatment, he needed to be!”

    Later, after reading just few pages of the “manifesto”, it was very clear to me that the MH professionals working with him over the years had more than enough information to have had him involuntarily committed for a very very long time. They had this info for well over a year (even longer). He had been clearly psychotically deluded, non-compliant with treatment, homicidal and suicidal for a very very long time.

    They did not “take care of business” in a manner that is the recognized “standard of care and conduct” for licensed MH professions, in these type of cases. Their negligence, ineptness and/or incompetence and failure to act clearly & decisively directly led not only to their patient’s death, but also to the death and serious harm to other innocent members of the community. They should all have their MH licenses permanently yanked, be brought up on criminal charges, and civilly sued for everything they have…by both the perp’s family as well as his multiple victim’s families.

    People need to stop trying to find blame with the police who were sent to do a “welfare check”. Police are not licensed MH providers and are not qualified (even if trained in MH risk assessment protocol) to do “life & death” risk assessments…that’s the domain of the licensed MH pros. The police can only be the MH pro’s “eyes & ears”, never the “decision maker”.

    The MH pros should have accompanied the police to do the a MH risk assessment at his apartment OR they should have provided the police with a “pick-up order” to take the individual in question to the nearest Hospital ER or nearest designated MH receiving location for an immediate MH evaluation (strapped down on a gurney in an ambulance if necessary), with specific directions to not release him from custody until the designated MH evaluator was provided with his developmental & treatment history, and a copy of the “manifesto” (if it was known and available) & his blog videos by the involved therapists & prescribing psychiatrist of record. That would not have violated his civil rights and it would have been a “no-brainer” ticket for immediate involuntary commitment. AND, if that had been done as it should have, years ago, he would have never passed the BAFTE background check for purchasing his weapons in the first place.

    This whole affair of MH malpractice is inexcusable IMO and it just pisses me the hell off! Remember, having a MH license to practice is no guarantee of a person’s professional competence…hundreds get graduate diplomas in the MH professions every year, only one in every class graduates at the top of the class (such as myself), a good number barely pass near the bottom of the class ranking, but all who get the diploma can ultimately sit for the licensing exams.

    Over the course of my professional career, I’ve come to the opinion that out of all MH professionals from the five Federally recognized MH professions that I worked with over the years (Psychiatrists, Clinical Psychologists, Psychiatric Nurses, Licensed Clinical Social Workers and Licensed Marriage & Family Therapists), 75% are inept, incompetent and out right dangerous; 20% are inept, incompetent but relatively harmless; and only about 5% actually know what the hell they are doing!

    Now, if my observations, analysis and simple math are correct, that works out to 95% of MH “professionals” are nothing more than a “social control” cabal of socially engineered educated dummies…fucking “papered” jackasses!

    Okay, my civic duty is done for the day and class is out…Consumers be aware and beware!

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  • gjtopr

    That kid was crazy…like a fox.

  • bobfairlane

    Hollywood jew from anti-gun liberal family goes on rampage because “blond sluts” won’t let him have his way with them: Libtard media reports it was a “white spree killer” and blames the NRA.

  • Blogengeezer

    What? No mention of the miracles of ‘Chemistry’? SSRI (Serotonin ‘adjustment’) involvement? No mention of ACLU, declaring that ‘One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” was an official documentary of reasons why all mental health institutions were illegal and ‘restrictive’? How Unfair. How Unequal…

    Now class, let us all focus on the weapons… or more to the point, only the One weapon on the agenda. The gun, only the gun…’Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain’….

  • jackcandobutwont

    If it bleeds it leads….and thank you media for NOT doing your job!! WHatever happened to who, what, when and where???

    Questions not asked:

    what drugs was elliot on?

    Had elliot stopped taking those drugs

    what other drugs was elliot on or in his system

    If his parents knew about all of elliots problems, why are they not responsible for letting a crazy person loose, giving hima car to killl people with, and money to buy drugs??

  • Bob Riker

    Finally an article that is being honest, and truthful. News Media, Politicians, have brain washed the American so bad that if you Fart in Church? it was a gun going off. Thanks for an Honest Article.

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