Deadline Nears On BATFE Shotgun Ban Comments

Deadline Nears On BATFE Shotgun Ban Comments
Deadline Nears On BATFE Shotgun Ban Comments

We try to keep most news posts primarily related to handguns, holsters and legislation affecting the carry of firearms.  This story is about the importation of shotguns that are fed from a magazine (specifically the Saiga series) but because it relates to the “sporting purposes” language in the Gun Control Act of 1968 it is a bigger issue than just shotguns.  The Saiga series is enormously popular because of it’s reliability, high capacity (compared with tubular shotguns) and how customizable they are.

Unfortunately the ATF is making a move to block their importation because they [ATF] do not believe the shotgun qualifies as sporting or readily adaptable for sporting purposes (see  The constitutionality of that language aside, the shotguns have become popular in shooting competitions, specifically three-gun matches, but the ATF does not recognize that as competition but rather paramilitary training (which is yet another discussion for another day).

Please take the time to email the ATF and let them know these shotguns should not be blocked from importation.  The comment period ends 5/1/11.  Here is an update from the NRA covering the topic:


Deadline Nears On BATFE Shotgun Ban Comments
Friday, April 08, 2011
As we reported on Jan. 28, May 1 is the deadline for public comments concerning a shotgun importation ban that has been proposed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. A working group within the BATFE has recommended that any shotgun (semi-automatic, pump-action or any other) that has any one of 10 specific features should be banned from importation, on the grounds that such shotguns are not “generally recognized as particularly suitable for a readily adaptable to sporting purposes.”

The features in question are a folding, telescoping, or collapsible stock; a magazine of over five rounds or a drum magazine; a flash suppressor or a muzzle brake that also suppresses flash; an integrated rail system other than on top of the receiver or barrel; a light enhancing device; a forward pistol grip or similar protruding part; an “excessive” weight of over 10 pounds; an “excessive bulk” of over three inches width and/or over four inches depth; a bayonet lug; or “a grenade-launcher mount.”

The working group considers “sporting purposes” to be limited to hunting, skeet, trap and sporting clays, but not to include practical shotgun matches or recreational target shooting. To have considered practical matches, the working group said, could have led to conclusions that would undercut the BATFE’s 1989 and 1998 bans on the importation of semi-automatic rifles, and its 1993 ban on the importation of various semi-automatic pistols. The working group also indicated a reluctance to accept practical matches because they test defensive firearm skills, which the working group believes are of military and police orientation.

Since the law conditions a firearm’s ability to be imported on whether it is “generally recognized” as meeting the law’s sporting purpose test, it is important that the BATFE hear from members of the general public. Particularly relevant will be the comments of people who use shotguns equipped with one or more of the features for hunting or any form of competitive or recreational target shooting, and people who adapt such shotguns to a sporting purpose by simple modifications, such as attaching or removing a flashlight, attaching or removing a forward grip, or installing or removing a magazine extension or magazine plug.

Comments to the BATFE may be submitted by e-mail to, or by fax to (202) 648-9601, and must be received by May 1, 2011. Faxed comments may not exceed 5 pages.  All comments must include name and mailing address.


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Can anyone provide ANY official statements from the ATF that they are specifically targeting the Saiga? Saiga SGs are imported with a standard “sporting style” stock and a 5 round mag SPECIFICALLY to comply with the GCA’s “sporting purposes” criteria for imports.

So, not only is the Saiga compliant by any literal interpretation of their “sporting” standards, but I have yet to read of any actual declaration by the ATF that they are specifically naming the Saiga as a target of this study.


Following this review, the working
group determined that certain shotgun features are not particularly suitable or readily adaptable
for sporting purposes. These features include:
(1) Folding, telescoping, or collapsible stocks;
(2) bayonet lugs;
(3) flash suppressors;
(4) magazines over 5 rounds, or a drum magazine;
(5) grenade-launcher mounts;
(6) integrated rail systems (other than on top of the receiver or barrel);
(7) light enhancing devices;
(8) excessive weight (greater than 10 pounds for 12 gauge or smaller);
(9) excessive bulk (greater than 3 inches in width and/or greater than 4 inches in depth);
(10) forward pistol grips or other protruding parts designed or used for gripping the
shotgun with the shooter’s extended hand

1,3,4,6,7,8,9, and 10 ALL apply to Saigas. Plus the practical answer–what shotgun has become enormously popular only in the past few years from out of nowhere?


I cannot see how any of these regulations, drafted and enforced at my/our expense, will help this country at all. Costly, unnecessary regulations, that will have no effect on crime. And of course Practical Shooting should be included as a sport! It is a popular and growing sport with decades of American history. It has had a positive effect on shooting sports, and all related commerce.