How to Find and Buy Firearms, Ammunition and Related Items Online

How to Find and Buy Firearms, Ammunition and Related Items Online

How to Find and Buy Firearms, Ammunition and Related Items Online

Are you having trouble finding firearms or magazines, but especially ammunition in stock and at reasonable prices?

I have had a number of people tell me they can’t find ammunition. Since early February, I have bought and sold many rounds of ammunition and a number of firearms, magazines and other accessories over the Internet. I’ve also sold literally thousands of rounds of the ammunition I found to friends and coworkers. I shared with them how I do it, and now I share here as well.

I have been so busy in my “day job”, that I had not noticed there was already a panic underway until the Gun Show the first weekend of December 2012. There I learned that the ammunition vendors sold out their entire stock of .223 and 5.56 mm ammunition within two hours.

Then on December 14 a psychotic boy murdered his own mother and 20 six and seven year old kids, and six adults with his mother’s AR-15 at Sandy Hook Elementary school. In the aftermath began a firestorm of debate over whether to expand national gun control laws. Subsequent fears of a new ban on AR and AK type weapons and high capacity magazines fueled an epic buying frenzy.

Now in late-August, the panic of 2013 has subsided, somewhat. Firearms and ammunition are appearing on store shelves again, but gunpowder and some calibers of ammunition continue to be difficult to find or non-existent.

Here’s how to find the ammunition that is available and how to buy through eBay style auction web sites like Gun Broker, Gun Auction and Guns America, and find deals through online commercial vendors using search sites like Slickguns, Gun-deals and Ammo Seek.

Search Sites

SlickgunsGun-deals and Ammo Seek users find sales, coupons and rebates and then post the details for others. There are search functions and search filters for Ammo only, California Legal Only, etc. They all work in a similar way, but their search results vary. Slickguns has its own forum on USACarry.com. Shipping cost can break a deal, and many commercial vendor sites provide a calculator to estimate shipping cost.

Know the Gun Control Laws Where You Live

You must determine whether the item you want is legal for you to buy and to ship to your residence or business. For example, California has a ten round magazine capacity limit and CA residents can buy only handguns that are specifically allowed.

All firearms must be shipped to a local FFL (Federal Firearms Licensed dealer). Commercial vendors will not ship items that they know are not legal in your area, but they can’t keep up with changes in state laws, let alone city ordinances.

Ammunition is classified a hazardous material, subject to Department of Transportation (DOT) Title 49 CFR regulations and can be shipped only within the 48 contiguous states (i.e., not accepted to or from Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and Catalina Island). Firearms and ammunition must be shipped separately, and in some areas sellers can’t ship any ammunition to your residence. More on shipping ammunition below.

Gun-deals.com, the auction sites and many online vendors provide a way to find and select an FFL near you. Locate one and talk to him or her.

Ordering and Payment

Commercial vendors may take orders by phone, Fax and old-fashioned mail, in addition to online orders. In the process, find out what methods of payment they accept.

Also keep in mind the cost of payment. Some sellers will take a personal check or cashier’s check, but require a holding period until the check clears their bank. PayPal charges roughly a 3% fee. Most commercial vendors accept credit cards and today some private party users also, but they may charge a small fee. A Money Order also has a cost, plus postage with delivery verification.

When buying a firearm, you must provide the seller with your FFL’s information right away. Give your FFL notice that you have an order coming from XYZ vendor, the order number and a description. Politely ask the FFL what fees and taxes you must pay, and ask what methods of payment they accept. Make arrangements with them to call you when your order arrives. (Edit by Luke McCou: From my experience, I’ve noticed that some stores won’t call you when your firearm arrives so you may have to call them to check on it periodically.)

The FFL will know what additional requirements apply, such as the Handgun Safety Certificate (HSC) that California requires for a handgun purchase. You may have to buy a gun lock from the FFL or show proof that you own a gun safe, or both. Bring that documentation and the invoice when you pick up your order to help the FFL find your firearm and all related paperwork.

Civilian Marksmanship Program

I include the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP), because it is another online source of inexpensive ammunition. I still see no 22LR on store shelves anywhere at any price, but in July I received a shipment to my door of 5,000 rounds of Aguila 22LR (the minimum order quantity), that I ordered in February from the CMP at just under $.07 per round, including shipping.

CMP was originally created by Congress in 1903 to promote firearms safety training and marksmanship for youth so that they would be skilled marksmen if called to serve in the military. It operates on private donations and proceeds from its sales of ammunition, accessories and donated surplus rifles such as the M1 Garand to qualified US citizens.

Buying Through Auction Sites

Probably the best known online auction site, eBay, doesn’t allow firearms or ammunition sales. Auction sites like Gun BrokerGun Auction and Guns America bring users together who are looking to buy and sell firearms related items, including discontinued and vintage items. For brevity, I’ll focus on one, Gunbroker.com. There are help pages, FAQs and tutorials for buyers and sellers to help new users learn the process.

The Search

Searching for 7.62 x 25 Tokarev ammunition for example, use either the Browse Categories drop down menu or type in the search field.

On any page of Gun Broker, click Browse Categories > Ammunition > Pistol Ammunition. That search displayed 5,785 results. Then click to select a specific manufacturer or just click 7.62 x 25 on the left under “Narrow Your Search” to filter down to the 31 items posted at this time.

The same search on Guns America yielded 0 Results, but Guns America is more than just an auction site. There are classified ads, dealer services pages, blog pages, product reviews articles and a newsletter.

The Buy

Check the item description against the photos. I don’t bid on listings without photos.

Read and understand all details about the item, especially its condition. Some questions you want to know the answers to are:

  • Is it New In Box (NIB), or Used?
  • Is it rusty or damaged somehow?
  • Does it function?
  • Does it require an FFL? Locate one and be certain they are willing to do the transfer before you bid.
  • Is there a Reserve?
  • What is the maximum you are willing to pay, including shipping cost?
  • Did seller list the weight of the package and a Zip code to estimate shipping, or did they list a flat shipping fee?
  • Click Ask Seller a question to ask any questions you have, but don’t use this to attempt to negotiate a lower price with the seller.
  • Does the seller collect sales tax? (Commercial Vendors might).
  • What payment methods does the seller accept?
  • What is seller’s return policy? Private parties probably won’t accept returns unless the item is other than described or broken. Vendors usually accept returns but will require that you contact them for authorization, and may charge a fee. Some allow a short time for inspection purposes only.

The Buy It Now option makes it possible for buyers to pay a little more to avoid bidding and waiting while an auction times out, hoping that no one bids more. Some sellers offer free shipping if you select Buy It Now, so do the math.

Check the seller’s feedback. Look for a track record as buyer and seller. As a buyer do they pay quickly? As a seller, are their items of quality and as described? Do they ship quickly? Are there comments about the seller having excessive shipping charges? How is their communication with buyers and sellers? I met a local buyer in person at his FFL and he commented about that in feedback.

When you are comfortable with the item and the seller, then it’s time to bid. I have listed some things to watch out for, but bidding strategy is an art form, and is beyond the scope of this article.

Once you’ve won, get busy! Contact the seller and provide your shipping address. Ask for the final total amount due, including shipping cost. Verify seller’s payment terms and the mailing address where to send payment, and then pay right away. Always verify addresses in real time. Users may forget to update their “Verified” address listed in their online profile. Include a print-out of the listing and your name and shipping address for busy and forgetful people like me. I have made at least one exception and gave my phone number to help a new and nervous buyer.

When you receive your shipment, inspect it right away. Be sure it is exactly what was described and in the condition described. Don’t blame the seller if you misread the listing. In that case, the seller may accept a return, but will expect you to pay at least return shipping. A commercial vendor may demand a restocking fee as well.

If you buy a firearm, the process is similar to buying from online commercial vendors, except that a vendor is probably an FFL and can deal directly with your FFL. With an auction sale, provide the seller your FFL’s contact information so that both FFLs can communicate.

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  • Larry

    Hay Jim I am a hand loader and have been looking for Hornady 30 cal.165 Gr. interlock bullets since Nov. 2012 called hornady said they still make them can not sell them to me to see Cabela’s ,Sinclair’s…and still have not found them can you help!! Thank You

  • Robert Ritchards

    I use wiki arms. I have had no problem finding whatever I need. Most stores, like Cabelas and Gander Mountain, have a free ship to store option to avoid shipping charges. I have been paying around .26-.31 cents per round for 9mm, usually WWB or Remington UMC. Not as good as a couple years ago, but better then most gouging prices we see now!

  • yikesarama

    Very good review, Jim. Thorough, good links, and, based on my experience, accurate.

  • Todd

    I’ve had trouble finding ammo over the past few months. It seems that big places like Cabela’s and Bass Pro Shop never have anything in stock. I got some hard to find 25 cal. at Able’s Ammo. Good Article, I’m going to check those sites out.
    Also, I’m already logged in to USA Carry, but I can’t post on this page unless I sign in with Disus, Twitter etc. What’s with that? Not cool.

  • humptydance

    Research before you post. check your facts. Not 1 single person was killed by an AR-15 at Sandy Hook. They were all killed by hand guns. The AR-15 never left the back seat of his mother’s car.
    People like you keep repeating the misinformation of the liberals and it becomes a truth; At least you believe it to be.

    • David McLeod

      I do not think anyone was repeating any misinformation, but the article was very well written.
      David

    • Larry

      And what difference does that make–that the AR-15 stayed in his mother’s car. You are defending the AR-15 as though it is a person. WTF? And, your comments will do nothing to assure those unfortunate children or their parents. The article is very well written, but it smites me a bit when someone provides information to unstable persons or domestic-violence offenders.

  • Larry

    Yo, Jimbo, I gotta praise you for a very-well written piece. You have really done your homework, and your writing follows along nicely leading up to the conclusion. I’m a little taken though by the concept of buying over the net or the suppliers you listed. No chance of ever crossing a background check, unless STATE law requires it. Spoiler alert: I have seven guns, long and short. I keep an adequate amount of ammo on hand, and locked away for the protection of children. I would really like to see you mention the value of background checks to sieve out the goofies and crime-intended persons. I know you are going to disagree with BG checks, but to let gun shows and other means sell guns to anyone with the green on the counter is a potential crime waiting to happen. We lose enough in war, why should be lose more at home? People should have a gun if they want one–unless they fail to meet certain societal standards of safety and compassion for the men and women and children around them.

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