Indiana “Carry” Bill creates interesting supporter and detractor headlines!

Indiana "Carry" Bill creates interesting supporter and detractor headlines!

Indiana "Carry" Bill creates interesting supporter and detractor headlines!

In an attempt to counter the type of localized restrictions on firearms and an individual’s right to carry a firearm like those passed in Chicago, both before and after the US Subprime Court decision in 2010, Indiana Senate Bill 292 was introduced for consideration in the 2011 Indiana Legislative session. Introduced by State Senator Jim Tomes (R) from Wadesville, Indiana, SB 292 would

prevent local units of government (Counties, Cities and Towns) from passing restrictive firearms or ammunition laws that are more punitive than State Law.

Discussions in the State Senate Committee on Corrections, Criminal, and Civil Matters and then after progressing out of Committee to full Senate for its three readings attracted little public or press attention. All of that changed when on Valentine’s Day the Indiana Senate passed Senate Bill 292 by a vote of 38 to 12 and sent the Bill to the Indiana House for consideration.

Immediately after passage by the Indiana State Senate, SB 292 became the hot topic for news reporters and the subject of press editorials statewide. The news editorials were fairly evenly divided along predictable lines with those against – focusing on the right of local authority and those for – praising the fact that this bill would clarify the often confusing restrictions placed firearms owners in different locations around the State. As you would imagine, the lines both pro and con seemed clearly drawn as SB 292 moved to the House side of the Indiana General Assembly.

But, the most surprising voice that emerged to challenge the Bill was that of Indianapolis Colts Owner Jim Irsay who was quoted in the Indianapolis Star listing a variety of fears. Irsay jumped to the conclusion that SB 292 would include events at Lucas Oil Stadium, Victory Field and other municipally owned sporting venues and convention centers. And, indicated that it might even jeopardize the 2012 Super Bowl scheduled in Indianapolis. Irsay even suggested that his fears included people like Herb Simon owner of the NBA Indiana Pacers, although no comment was been made by Mr. Simon.

When Colts owner Jim Irsay expressed concern that the bill might result in fans legally carrying guns to NFL games in Indianapolis, State Senator Steele, R-Bedford, who had added his name as a co-author of SB 292, said the bill does not restrict private organizations staging events from barring weapons. This means that the Indianapolis Colts could bar guns, much the same way as the National Football League franchise bars carry-in alcohol.

“The Colts could bar a ticket holder from wearing the color green if they wanted to,” Steele told a reporter. “The same would hold true at university sporting venues. Firearms also would be barred from Lucas Oil Stadium during the 2012 Super Bowl, since the event falls under federal security.”

In response it was implied that the bill would be burdensome for the Capital Improvement Board, which provides security for the games.

A problem those with gun permits face is local ordinances banning guns in specific locations. The ordinances vary widely between counties and cities, complicating where it is legal to carry. That inconsistency is not fair to gun owners who intend to follow the rules. Senate Bill 292 would maintain gun bans at schools and courthouses, as well as municipal buildings with a court. Other than these specific sites, SB 292 would lift local bans on carrying firearms in government facilities, including parks, libraries and municipal buildings without courts. Some might bemoan guns in parks or libraries. But Congress lifted the ban on carrying firearms in national parks years ago, and tourists haven’t yet turned the sites into scenes shown in movies on the Wild West.

While the whole issue raised by Mr. Irsay was entertaining, if short on facts, the fate of SB 292 in the Indiana House remains under a cloud. On February 22, 2011 the Democrats walked out of the Statehouse to prevent a House Bill on “right to work” from being heard. In walking out, thus removing the majority votes needed to pass legislation to be forwarded to the State Senate. In so doing the Democrats stranded dozens of other Bills that had to be approved by the House by February 22nd thus let them die. This included the State Budget. Because of the importance of passing the two year State Budget, it will be interesting to see if SB 292 will get a chance to be heard on the House side before the Legislative session closes on March 14th.

Background:

In the 2010 Indiana Legislative session the State of Indiana passed a law allowing licensed firearms owners to have firearms in locked storage in their vehicles and removed the right of individual places of employment, sub-divisions, or other groups to place restrictions on firearms owners. The 2010 legislation was quickly dubbed the “trunk law”, but restricted licensed carry in or on school property (including universities), controlled access areas of an airport, mental health facilities, and prisons. Most of the restricted areas were already covered as off limits under Indiana concealed weapons laws. However, discussion started in some communities about using local law to add additional restrictions. While there was never any major discussion about outlawing firearms as was done in Chicago, there were discussions about locally supporting firearms restricted areas as it applied to firearms locked in a vehicle or carried.

Those discussions fostered Senate Bill 292 (Updated February 14, 2011 6:04 pm- DI 84) a digest of which is as follows:

Preemption of local firearm regulation. Prohibits, with certain exceptions, a political subdivision from regulating any matter pertaining to firearms, ammunition, and firearm accessories. Allows a person to file an action against a political subdivision if the person is adversely affected by an ordinance, measure, enactment, rule, or policy of the political subdivision that violates the law.

It should be noted that the exceptions as passed by the Indiana Senate include:
• buildings containing a court or portion containing a court
• the intentional display of a firearm at a public meeting
• a public hospital that contains a secure correctional health unit that is staffed by a
law enforcement officer
• a person participating in:
a. a community corrections program (IC 11-12-1);
b. a forensic diversion program (IC 11-12-3.7); or
c. a pretrial diversion program (IC 33-39-1); or the enforcement or
prosecution of the offense of criminal recklessness (IC 35-42-2-2)
involving the use of a firearm.

Places already covered in Indiana State Law related to firearms and carrying a
concealed weapon in Indiana restrictions Include:
1. In or On School Property.
2. On a school bus
3. In or on property that is being used by a school for a school function
4. Private School(IC 20*9.1*1*3) & (IC 35*41*1*24.7)
5. Head Start (IC 35*41*1*24.7)
6. Preschool (IC 35-41-1-24.7)
7. IC 35*47*9*1Allows the carry of firearms by persons permitted to possess and
who are transporting a person to or from school or a school function.
8. On an aircraft
9. Controlled access areas of an airport
10. During annual State Fair 80 IAC 4-4-4 (Must lock in vehicle)
11. Shipping port 130 IAC 4-1-8 (Controlled by Indiana Port Commission)
12. A riverboat Casino

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  • DAN BROSS

    House bill 292 NEEDS TO BE PASSED ALONG WITH H.B. 1546.THESE CRIMINALS ARE ILLEGALLY CARRYING FIREARMS,& WE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS HAVE TO GET A PERMIT TO PROTECT OURSELVES.OUR GOVERNMENT IS SO WISE TO CONTROL US THIS WAY YET THEY CANT CONTROL THE CRIMINALS.THIS IS TOTALLY INSANE. WHERE IS IT GOING TO END.ARM THE LAW ABIDING CITIZEN & I ASSURE YOU YOU WILL SEE CHANGE. GIVE US OUR RIGHTS BACK THJAT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN TAKEN IN THE FIRST PLACE!

  • Bill O. Rights

    If this is a ‘victory’ for firearms freedom, it’s pretty strange that the list of ‘exemptions’ still requires one to carry a map, phone directory, and state facilities guide with them, to see if they might be happening onto property where they magically morph from a ‘trusted individual, licensed to safely carry a firearm’, to a ‘criminal’, because they entered some B.S. ‘gun-free zone’.  Too bad Indiana didn’t have the gonads to pass a REAL pro-gun bill, that allowed those not committing crimes to carry their concealed firearms wherever they wanted, without all the ‘except’ provisions.  If a person is trustable to carry their handgun while out shopping, why not at a Colts game…?  If a terrorist is bent on killing people at a Colts game, to you think they’ll decide NOT to because of the ‘gun law’ saying CCW is not permitted there? 

    We’ve become a nation of wimps, thanking our masters when they hand us a crumb…

  • Anonymous

    All regulations,ordinances,acts, and statutes violate the COnstitution and are thus void.

  • Anonymous

    Anytime a law is made that permits public servants to be armed in a place or situation , and not the masters or citizens ..it ois Un Constitutional and void…The Federal judiciary is no longer an equal and separate branch of govt. and thus its has been circumvented and is void.

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